@@midnightrun2764 Yeah. Just cuz you have a PhD doesn't make you competent. Bad psychiatrists are especially damaging. Plus, why on earth is she here? NOTHING she says is even remotely relevant to the case!
Agree. The defense thinks that the Jury needs a class on tauma and how it can adversely affect memory which is true but it's not cut and dry as this expert claims. What we need to have is a mental evaluation done on Nancy so we can prove what we all suspect is that Nancy is a narcissistic sociopath but the ? that remains is WHY? what makes someone want to murder their significant other who was by all accounts a good mate for her? It doesn't make sense as imo Dan was worth more alive to her than the $ should could make from his death. Possibly because Dan had to work 2 jobs to pay their bill$ and couldn't be as attentive to Nancy as she was accustomed from him when he was home, he was too tired so he became less 'useful' to her needs and wants
I'm 10 min in with the Psychologist in the 104 hearing wondering what the hell does any of this have to do with this trial and WHY the hell the Defense thinks she will help NB.
@@barrettlori9249 The Prophy home was worth close to $600k - $250k mortgage = $350k for legal and expert fee$ for her defense. Her brother who was wealthy died shortly after Dan was murdered but he had a wife, children and grandchildren. Note that Nancy never had kids of her own and Dan catered to her which is why i suspect she was so self absorbed and not because she suffered any Trauma in her life. I've been traumatized in childhood by my parents and as an adult by my husband but i could never kill an animal nor human because HE told ME ~ HEME is blood and I AM under HIS protection and grace .... thank God! I couldn't imagine spending my life chasing $ so i could hob nob with a circle of born wealthy amateur Authors who think they're literary scholars w/their PHD$
So, we hear about how wonderful the Brophy’s marriage was, what great people they were for two weeks, why she would have no reason to kill Dan, and now, we have to buy that he was an abuser, so she killed him? This “psychologist” is a joke and the worst expert ever! Throw enough crap at the wall to see if something sticks defense. Hideous 😡
I agree. I think this testimony is going to backfire because so far everything we've heard from the witnesses, including those from the Defence, is that Dan Brophy was a wonderful guy and mentor and that the two made a great couple. It would be dirty tricks if the witness was credible. I think the Defence was not intelligent in calling this witness especially after the 104 hearing where it was obvious that it was ill-advised.
@@tinyraymond Remember when Jodi Arias' defense team called their "expert" DV witness to speak to the (fictitious) "abuse" Jodi suffered from at the hands of her victim and her resulting PTSD? Her "expert" testimony so outraged people that the onslaught of online attacks caused her to admit herself to the ER for anxiety attacks. (What goes around comes around). 😏
This psychiatrist has a 100% chance of implanting false memories of abuse that tears families apart and convinces perfectly normal people into thinking they have multiple personalities. 🙄
Remember the "DV expert" psychologist Jodi Arias' defense called to the stand to talk nonsense about the so-called "abuse" Jodi suffered from at the hands of Travis & her PTSD as a result? These people do no favors to true victims of crime when they make stuff up as they go along. And in Jodi's case, her "expert" witness paid dearly in the court of public opinion. What goes around comes around.
@@isabellind1292 Yup. "Doctors" like her and this woman terrify me, cuz they are definitely the type to implant false traumatic memories into a patient, resulting in innocent people getting accused. Families torn apart, lives ruined, all for nothing.
I usually enjoy listening to court cases, but the Brophy witnesses are painful. Either long-winded or obviously biased (her family is both). I understand that cases aren't for our entertainment, but I fail to see how these witnesses are helping the defense 🤣🙄
@@KatJ3st Even the ones who aren't related to the family like this psychiatrist are absolutely _insufferable._ Was the defense's strategy to bore the jury to death?
LOL I turned on the live trial, saw and heard the woman in the witness box and thought it must be NB's sister. Word salad, voice tone, hurried speech, build, and face shape. Turns out, it's the clinical psychologist.
It's the best defense they could come up with ~ trauma = memory gaps to explain Nancy's conflicting stories of her activities that fateful morning. We now know that it only took 6 minutes for her to park, enter the building and shoot him in the back which paralyzed him and then she stood over him and put a bullet into his chest to finish him off before the students started to arrive. Imagine the shock and feelings of betrayal Dan felt the moments before he died knowing it was his beloved wife who wanted him dead 😭
@@hollystiener16 The judge is kind of....awful? Yeah, awful. He hardly does anything, ignores objections, and keeps letting the defense break all sorts of decorum.
I’ve had to ff through that woman, she’s great at lecturing on the history of psychology, but a terrible flaky witness. I’ve just caught the judge saying I’ve heard 45 mins and still no answer to the first question. I bet he’s dreading her testimony.
lol. even the Judge was bored with this psychologists psycho babble to avoid answering pointed questions re the defendant. The Prosecutor did a great job on "cross"
Ya know, I think if I were a clinical psychologist testifying as an expert witness, I wouldn't go for the pleated blouse from the 1950's. It looks way too "thrift store" or "I'm trying to look professsional so I borrowed my grandmother's outfit." Her article citations were just as remote in time (like before most of the jury was born). If you want to talk "fight or flight", you'd better be current and you'd better be VERY grounded in current research. It's a VERY rapidly evolving field. Oregon is replete with clinical psychologists. The jury will expect someone who's current. They can conclude from this that defense couldn't get an expert who could defend Nancy.
I see nothing wrong with her blouse, plus your comment about raiding her grandma's closet makes no sense. She probably IS the grandma, lol. Ignore her clothes, there is SO much wrong with her testimony that has nothing to do with her outfit.
Same w/the same type of "expert" Jodi Arias' defense team called to stand to testify about all the fictitious abuse she suffered. Their "expert" helped dig Jodi's grave and did herself no favors when she became the laughing stock to her (so-called) profession.
I know. She just blathers on and on, yet says absolutely NOTHING! Absolutely none of what she's saying has anything to do with this case! Nancy never once mentioned being traumatized. Not one single time. Her testimony only exists to torture the jury with tedious, pointless, monotonous psychobabble, _FOR HOURS._
For a clinical psychologist expert witness with Ph.D. in Oregon, you'd expect UofO, Oregon State, Willamette, Portland State, or University of Portland, maybe 2 of the other public universities. Definitely not George Fox. There are hundreds of clinical psychologists in Oregon who would have quality credentials. I guess defense couldn't find any who'd be willing to defend Nancy.
There wasn't any amnesia or dissociation going on in the morning of June 2 when Nancy was being given the death notice. She wasn't actually told Dan was dead until at least 8 minutes in. By then, she'd already said she had been home in bed all morning. She hadn't even asked after Dan in that time.
It was more like 16 minutes in the police van , if I'm not mistaken, that she asked what happened. Until then she was giggling and joking with the officers. Not a good look imho Edited for typos :p
Not even that, she just HAD to claim her superiority by saying "I know, I already figured it out based on how everyone is acting". Imagine reducing your husband's murder into a statement as insultingly downplayed as "everyone's got that sad sack look". Yes, Nancy. Everyone is a widdle bitty sad sack cuz your hubby wubby gots a boo boo. 🤦🏼♀️
I’m still watching, morning after break, but I want to know if Nancy told anyone about the barrel and slide, what happened to it….. and what was her answer to that
Prosecutor Overstreet objected very little, I think his strategy was to let the defense witnesses blather on to the point where the jury absolutely HATED them all. Frankly, I think it's a good strategy. Why try to discredit them when they're doing a great job discrediting themselves?
1:33:10 LOL The judge got so frustrated enduring her pointless blathering, he had to interrupt and tell her to get to the damn point. _And still,_ she has the gall to talk back to him about his tone! /Headdesk
Don't Judge the entire state of residents and workers based on your opinion of one psychologist's expert opinion of Nancy's memory gabs due to her traumatic experience of her husband's murder and her confabulations to fill in the gaps. Any good psychologist who is not a paid court whore, would be able to determine if the patient is confabulating due to a traumatic event such as when a loved one is murdered from a liar who is in fact the person who killed her husband for monetary gain$ as the bill$ were piling up and she couldn't get Dan to get a higher paying job as head chef of a 4 to 5 star restaurant and Dan's 2nd job and his job at the Culinary Institute wasn't bringing in enough $ so when she was offered a job selling life insurance, that was her trip into the dark side of humanity and she took out life insurance policies on Dan totally almost 1.5 million dollar$. The state's expert witness that gave us a lesson on the many different policies she took out on Dan's life which i found very interesting as he's a good salesman! lol. For him to say that this amount of life insurance on a 64 yr old male who only made $50k + 20K for his 2nd job was way too much $ to pay for life insurance premiums imo and i think most folks would agree that they wouldn't take the sale$man's advice to pay the premiums at the sake of getting behind on your mortgage$. I lost all respect for him when he made that sales pitch to the Jury lol.
Unless Nancy is psychic and experienced the trauma of Dan's death in advance which led to a loss of memory which led to her driving aimlessly around the crime scene at the time of his murder, then the psychologist's theory is irrelevant.
This will show how old I am but I remember Ann Landers saying she thought she’d had a great marriage for 35 years until she found out her husband had been having an affair for the last 3 and she had absolutely no idea. Sometimes people play the game until they hit the wall. Then they quietly start making plans. Then suddenly they end the relationship. Except it’s usually by leaving, not by murder.
Nancy had planned this murder for a long time starting with all those expensive life insurance policies that they could not afford, getting Dan to finally marry her after many years together, and finally buying the Glock, ghost gun, and alternate barrel, which is solely used for forensic deception. Look at her face - not a sweet person behind that scowl.
So many of these defense witnesses only seem to offer character reference to Nancy and Dan. Seems to me they would be more in line with mitigation witnesses not defense…so strange!
Hey Defense !! Can you make us Defense witnesses ? My husband & I drove down that rode a couple of times. Doesn't that make us more than qualified to be flown to Portland, and testify..."Yes I drove that street" and "I don't remember exactly the date or time"....Seems your calling everybody else in Portland....we just want a piece if that pie...lol..In my opinion
@@PointBlankGuns-Ammo because this way her case will be bullet proof when she appeals her conviction...she won't be able to say "if l had called witness X, it would have made the difference" Oops...no pun intended!
I couldn’t agree more , as I said earlier I’m waiting on the drive thru clerk at Starbucks that took Nancy’s order in 1997 and have the defense ask him/her did Nancy love Dan? It took the Titanic 1 hr and 12 mins to sink . Maxfield and Winemiller now have set a world record . Ugh
If they think their witness’ are going to steer the jury to their side they are on another planet. Are the attys allowed to read these comments in real time ? I realize I’m commenting after verdict .
In my opinion I wouldn’t have these 2 yo-yos defend me out of a parking ticket. The look on Maxfield’s face when verdict was read was priceless . Were they at the same trial I watched ??
Not 1 objection from the prosecutor he must be new. There's a hearsay objection and a relevance objection with every witness the defense calls. There doing nothing but wasting the jurors time with an these clowns they keep calling.
The prosecutor has had a strategy of letting the defense witnesses shoot off their mouths with word salad until they shoot themselves in the foot. He's done this with every member of Nancy's family, and now with the psychologist. They just can't help themselves. It might not be standard procedure, but I think it's brilliant.
@@sleuththewild l agree...and it's the defense who called the "waste 'o time" witnesses...so if the jury gets annoyed with anyone it would be the defense...also, calling every person who ever said 2 words to Nancy, it looks desparate...and the more they do it, the worse they look
I disagree. This expert shows how trauma can and does affect memory as if you recall, Nancy took the stand and had different stories of what she did on that fateful morning when she murdered her husband of 26 years that she claims was due to the trauma of her husband being murdered which affected her 'recall' aka memory. Gaps in memory are filled in by the human brain caused from trauma and we call it 'Confabulation' which is a memory error that involves creating false memories or distorting memories about oneself or the world. People who confabulate are unaware that their information is false and sincerely believe it to be true. This is different from lying, where the person is aware that they are lying. Confabulation is often associated with: Brain damage, Certain types of dementia, Memory disorders, and Mental health conditions. Confabulation can be triggered when someone is asked about their injury or disability. The false memories can extend to the present and its expected consequences. They can often contain symbolic themes related to the person's identity and social connections. An example of confabulation is if someone is asked where they've been to and they respond with a story about a trip to Antarctica, even though they've never been there. It's not uncommon for folks with dementia to confabulate and the astute noticed this when Joe Biden talked about his past.
Omg...about 10 minutes in to the psychiatrist 104 hearing.... She is giving a conference presentation! 😂😂 What does any of this have to do with anything?!!
Years ago I was involved in fact finding where the original MMPI was in play. That test was not validated for the subject (my complainant). Evidently the testing company continues to update its product. That said, I think the jury should see the report generated by the test publisher as it does make comments about the subject’s behavior that are interesting… such as she avoids accountability. Other than that she said that there are no indications of abuse by Dan. No news there.
The afternoon session has more.....I got your tip here and my ears pricked up when the prosecutor started to read off the formal conclusions generated by the test publisher. They were VERY harsh words: all kinds of red flags.
Dan sounds like such a great and kind man. Both of them seemed conscious of each other's needs and allowed each other to grow and flex these needs. I would like to know what the real reason is that Nancy wanted to kill him. We're just presuming it's financial but there must be more to it. Was it the constant mess (that would freak me out tbh I'd be clearing and chucking stuff when he wasn't looking). I wonder if their marriage wasn't so great behind closed doors
"IF" her attorneys (if you want to call them that) think she is winning the jury (which I think they're bored to death)...not going to happen. Besides, the Prosecutor has not been the sharpest tool in the shed, and likely would only ask about her shoes, her hair or if shes' thirsty ??....Shes' gonna walk...unfortunetly...But, the Insurance Co. are in the wings waiting to charge her with Insurance Fraud..Just like Al Capone.....In my opinion
@@barbaragrove6097 could it be Thursday? I thought the lawyers were using Friday for a "all day" motions hearing about the rebuttal witness for the state (cell mate, maybe?)
Even the judge is starting to get tired of her around 1 h 15 min. And after one and a half hour he actually cuts her off. And to my surprise they were still only on the subject of if she is qualified or not as a witness!! I dread that actual testimony..
After watching the nb trial I'm concluding and can see I too could have been a psychologist specialist!!! after seeing all the witnesses!!! This specialist just figured out the problem that caused nb for her " temporary amnesia",the Vagas nerve that goes from her brain down to her rear!!!
As someone who has lived with (and dutifully continue to receive treatment for) a dissociative disorder for about 32 years (and someone who earned a doctorate), please allow me to just say: Ok true, but obviously not in this case.
This witness is so interesting & taught me a hell of a lot!! I like hearing about our bodys reactions to things. Freud is an absolute moron, imagine all the abused kids who weren't believed since "child molestation is a figment of their imagination & people don't actually do that" 🙄 Lots of cool info though.
For every child who isn't believed, there is another who has been coached by the psychiatrist into believing they were SAd when they never were, resulting in both the patient and the falsely accused to have their lives ruined. This woman is definitely the type to do that.
@@WobblesandBean Can you link me to where you read that statistic? What you're suggesting would cause their license to be revoked, I'm wondering what reputable organization compiled that data.
This psychologist’s testimony is insulting to the time and intelligence of the jury. The defense has hit a new low.
Not to mention, actual clinical professionals!…😖
@@midnightrun2764 Yeah. Just cuz you have a PhD doesn't make you competent. Bad psychiatrists are especially damaging. Plus, why on earth is she here? NOTHING she says is even remotely relevant to the case!
Agree. The defense thinks that the Jury needs a class on tauma and how it can adversely affect memory which is true but it's not cut and dry as this expert claims. What we need to have is a mental evaluation done on Nancy so we can prove what we all suspect is that Nancy is a narcissistic sociopath but the ? that remains is WHY? what makes someone want to murder their significant other who was by all accounts a good mate for her? It doesn't make sense as imo Dan was worth more alive to her than the $ should could make from his death. Possibly because Dan had to work 2 jobs to pay their bill$ and couldn't be as attentive to Nancy as she was accustomed from him when he was home, he was too tired so he became less 'useful' to her needs and wants
I'm 10 min in with the Psychologist in the 104 hearing wondering what the hell does any of this have to do with this trial and WHY the hell the Defense thinks she will help NB.
I know right? 🤷🏼♀️
Haha I was searching for that comment so that I would not have to write it :D
My sentiments exactly!
I know, right? This case has NOTHING to do with PTSD or substance abuse! The defense is wasting everyone's time!
@Amelia Bee There was no Defense.
Why do defense lawyers put these kind of so called experts up when they know they're gonna torn apart on cross examination?!!
Only because they can 😢 with $$ Brophy has family defending her. She took the stand, and distroyed their hard work IMO
@@barrettlori9249 The Prophy home was worth close to $600k - $250k mortgage = $350k for legal and expert fee$ for her defense. Her brother who was wealthy died shortly after Dan was murdered but he had a wife, children and grandchildren. Note that Nancy never had kids of her own and Dan catered to her which is why i suspect she was so self absorbed and not because she suffered any Trauma in her life. I've been traumatized in childhood by my parents and as an adult by my husband but i could never kill an animal nor human because HE told ME ~ HEME is blood and I AM under HIS protection and grace .... thank God! I couldn't imagine spending my life chasing $ so i could hob nob with a circle of born wealthy amateur Authors who think they're literary scholars w/their PHD$
@@barrettlori9249 She can't claim ineffective council as her own testimony convicted her.
I've never seen witnesses taking over the courtroom like this, no words
All of the defense's witnesses do nothing but rant for HOURS, while saying absolutely nothing. It's gobsmacking.
So, we hear about how wonderful the Brophy’s marriage was, what great people they were for two weeks, why she would have no reason to kill Dan, and now, we have to buy that he was an abuser, so she killed him? This “psychologist” is a joke and the worst expert ever! Throw enough crap at the wall to see if something sticks defense. Hideous 😡
I agree. I think this testimony is going to backfire because so far everything we've heard from the witnesses, including those from the Defence, is that Dan Brophy was a wonderful guy and mentor and that the two made a great couple. It would be dirty tricks if the witness was credible. I think the Defence was not intelligent in calling this witness especially after the 104 hearing where it was obvious that it was ill-advised.
@@tinyraymond Remember when Jodi Arias' defense team called their "expert" DV witness to speak to the (fictitious) "abuse" Jodi suffered from at the hands of her victim and her resulting PTSD? Her "expert" testimony so outraged people that the onslaught of online attacks caused her to admit herself to the ER for anxiety attacks. (What goes around comes around). 😏
This psychiatrist has a 100% chance of implanting false memories of abuse that tears families apart and convinces perfectly normal people into thinking they have multiple personalities. 🙄
Well, that psychologist got roasted. Never seen a witness so badly prepared.
She flicked from page to page to page, that showed how badly prepared she was. I wonder how much she was paid?
Remember the "DV expert" psychologist Jodi Arias' defense called to the stand to talk nonsense about the so-called "abuse" Jodi suffered from at the hands of Travis & her PTSD as a result?
These people do no favors to true victims of crime when they make stuff up as they go along. And in Jodi's case, her "expert" witness paid dearly in the court of public opinion. What goes around comes around.
@@isabellind1292 Yup. "Doctors" like her and this woman terrify me, cuz they are definitely the type to implant false traumatic memories into a patient, resulting in innocent people getting accused. Families torn apart, lives ruined, all for nothing.
@@isabellind1292also sound like the psychologist from Johnny Depp trial where she didn't think men could be abused unless in a gay relationship
@@jborrego2406 Someone should gift them the complete series of "SNAPPED". They won't even find an episode where any of the women ever just snapped!
Imagine having to sit next to this woman on an international flight ✈️
Omg
Wear a head band; good grief.
That’s when u put on headphones an if they keep talking pretend ur sleep lol
Like the passenger in "Airplane" who so annoyed the passengers, they lined up in the aisle so each one could slap her across the face, lol!
Do I have to imagine it? I really don't want to.
I usually enjoy listening to court cases, but the Brophy witnesses are painful. Either long-winded or obviously biased (her family is both). I understand that cases aren't for our entertainment, but I fail to see how these witnesses are helping the defense 🤣🙄
I totally agree with you!
They ALL just LOVE to talk and talk and talk - just like Nancy. Even they forget what they were talking ABOUT!
@@KatJ3st Even the ones who aren't related to the family like this psychiatrist are absolutely _insufferable._ Was the defense's strategy to bore the jury to death?
They just talking about their life stories !!🤦
LOL I turned on the live trial, saw and heard the woman in the witness box and thought it must be NB's sister. Word salad, voice tone, hurried speech, build, and face shape. Turns out, it's the clinical psychologist.
They all start talking like her at some point
Why do Nancy's lawyers feel we need to hear every whisper ? Do they not know how to hit mute...Frustrating!
The judge needs to say something to them. They problem don't realize
It's the best defense they could come up with ~ trauma = memory gaps to explain Nancy's conflicting stories of her activities that fateful morning. We now know that it only took 6 minutes for her to park, enter the building and shoot him in the back which paralyzed him and then she stood over him and put a bullet into his chest to finish him off before the students started to arrive. Imagine the shock and feelings of betrayal Dan felt the moments before he died knowing it was his beloved wife who wanted him dead 😭
@@hollystiener16 The judge is kind of....awful? Yeah, awful. He hardly does anything, ignores objections, and keeps letting the defense break all sorts of decorum.
I’ve had to ff through that woman, she’s great at lecturing on the history of psychology, but a terrible flaky witness. I’ve just caught the judge saying I’ve heard 45 mins and still no answer to the first question. I bet he’s dreading her testimony.
Please give us a timestamp? I don't want to sit through this insufferable woman to find it, lol.
1:33:05 is when the judge can't take it anymore.
1:34:00 is when the judge specifically says he still hasn't heard an answer to the first question.
lol. even the Judge was bored with this psychologists psycho babble to avoid answering pointed questions re the defendant. The Prosecutor did a great job on "cross"
This witness is just dreadful.
Right?!? Fast forward ⏩
It's ridiculous
Ya know, I think if I were a clinical psychologist testifying as an expert witness, I wouldn't go for the pleated blouse from the 1950's. It looks way too "thrift store" or "I'm trying to look professsional so I borrowed my grandmother's outfit." Her article citations were just as remote in time (like before most of the jury was born).
If you want to talk "fight or flight", you'd better be current and you'd better be VERY grounded in current research. It's a VERY rapidly evolving field.
Oregon is replete with clinical psychologists. The jury will expect someone who's current. They can conclude from this that defense couldn't get an expert who could defend Nancy.
I see nothing wrong with her blouse, plus your comment about raiding her grandma's closet makes no sense. She probably IS the grandma, lol. Ignore her clothes, there is SO much wrong with her testimony that has nothing to do with her outfit.
I hope this courtroom have restraint systems in place at the defense table. They seem so close to the witness stand 😯
Judges sigh with announcing morning break says it all.
This ‘doctor’ -wow just wow.
Same w/the same type of "expert" Jodi Arias' defense team called to stand to testify about all the fictitious abuse she suffered. Their "expert" helped dig Jodi's grave and did herself no favors when she became the laughing stock to her (so-called) profession.
I know. She just blathers on and on, yet says absolutely NOTHING! Absolutely none of what she's saying has anything to do with this case! Nancy never once mentioned being traumatized. Not one single time. Her testimony only exists to torture the jury with tedious, pointless, monotonous psychobabble, _FOR HOURS._
For a clinical psychologist expert witness with Ph.D. in Oregon, you'd expect UofO, Oregon State, Willamette, Portland State, or University of Portland, maybe 2 of the other public universities. Definitely not George Fox.
There are hundreds of clinical psychologists in Oregon who would have quality credentials. I guess defense couldn't find any who'd be willing to defend Nancy.
The psych had trouble remembering where she got her bachelors degree.
There wasn't any amnesia or dissociation going on in the morning of June 2 when Nancy was being given the death notice. She wasn't actually told Dan was dead until at least 8 minutes in. By then, she'd already said she had been home in bed all morning. She hadn't even asked after Dan in that time.
It was more like 16 minutes in the police van , if I'm not mistaken, that she asked what happened. Until then she was giggling and joking with the officers. Not a good look imho Edited for typos :p
Not even that, she just HAD to claim her superiority by saying "I know, I already figured it out based on how everyone is acting". Imagine reducing your husband's murder into a statement as insultingly downplayed as "everyone's got that sad sack look". Yes, Nancy. Everyone is a widdle bitty sad sack cuz your hubby wubby gots a boo boo. 🤦🏼♀️
Plus, what the hell does PTSD or substance abuse have to do with this case? _Why is she here?_
The prosecutor hasn’t objected because he can’t wait to ask her if she talked to Brophy about the gun. I hope it comes up
I’m still watching, morning after break, but I want to know if Nancy told anyone about the barrel and slide, what happened to it….. and what was her answer to that
@@willowv1220 I'm from the future. Hold onto your seat & keep Tylenol nearby, her explanation will make your head hurt.
@@AliceA333 lol yeah well from then to now it still hurts lmao
@@willowv1220 🤣🤣
Prosecutor Overstreet objected very little, I think his strategy was to let the defense witnesses blather on to the point where the jury absolutely HATED them all. Frankly, I think it's a good strategy. Why try to discredit them when they're doing a great job discrediting themselves?
1:33:10 LOL The judge got so frustrated enduring her pointless blathering, he had to interrupt and tell her to get to the damn point. _And still,_ she has the gall to talk back to him about his tone! /Headdesk
OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH. I was looking for this timestamp and I jus5 could not handle listening to this lady for another second
After watching this trial so far, I can’t help but think that people in Oregon are oftentimes incompetent in their chosen fields.
Don't Judge the entire state of residents and workers based on your opinion of one psychologist's expert opinion of Nancy's memory gabs due to her traumatic experience of her husband's murder and her confabulations to fill in the gaps. Any good psychologist who is not a paid court whore, would be able to determine if the patient is confabulating due to a traumatic event such as when a loved one is murdered from a liar who is in fact the person who killed her husband for monetary gain$ as the bill$ were piling up and she couldn't get Dan to get a higher paying job as head chef of a 4 to 5 star restaurant and Dan's 2nd job and his job at the Culinary Institute wasn't bringing in enough $ so when she was offered a job selling life insurance, that was her trip into the dark side of humanity and she took out life insurance policies on Dan totally almost 1.5 million dollar$. The state's expert witness that gave us a lesson on the many different policies she took out on Dan's life which i found very interesting as he's a good salesman! lol. For him to say that this amount of life insurance on a 64 yr old male who only made $50k + 20K for his 2nd job was way too much $ to pay for life insurance premiums imo and i think most folks would agree that they wouldn't take the sale$man's advice to pay the premiums at the sake of getting behind on your mortgage$. I lost all respect for him when he made that sales pitch to the Jury lol.
The psychologist goes on an on about MMPI2, but didn't bring the test....
😮
Unless Nancy is psychic and experienced the trauma of Dan's death in advance which led to a loss of memory which led to her driving aimlessly around the crime scene at the time of his murder, then the psychologist's theory is irrelevant.
Sounds like the expert witness psychologist who’s being crossed by prosecution is experiencing her own fight or flight causing memory issues!🙄🙄🙄
Yep, she's experiencing the freeze symptom, too.
This prosecutor is doing an amazing job !
@@ritatinken3278 That's what I think. Watch how he just let the psychologist rattle on and tie herself in knots. The judge had to intervene lol.
Seemed to have a difficult time with eye contact, too, in those tough several, several minutes. What a nut.
This is an expert?!
I have begun to lose the will to live listening to this doctor woman.
😂😂😂
Why do you have to specify her sex?
@@Ifuckwithtrinkets I am actually mentioning her gender.
Give this psychologist more water! I feel winded and out of breath just hearing her talk.
I'm embarrassed for this woman.
This therapist is as crazy as NB and her defense!!!!!
She looks and sounds exactly like her, too.
TG I’m not the only one who feels that way !!
The loop in my head >>There’s something wrong with this woman🤪
Wonder what the psychology is when a relationship appears fine, but then one eliminates the other. Sometimes still waters run deep.
This will show how old I am but I remember Ann Landers saying she thought she’d had a great marriage for 35 years until she found out her husband had been having an affair for the last 3 and she had absolutely no idea. Sometimes people play the game until they hit the wall. Then they quietly start making plans. Then suddenly they end the relationship. Except it’s usually by leaving, not by murder.
Nancy had planned this murder for a long time starting with all those expensive life insurance policies that they could not afford, getting Dan to finally marry her after many years together, and finally buying the Glock, ghost gun, and alternate barrel, which is solely used for forensic deception. Look at her face - not a sweet person behind that scowl.
is it just me or is this psychologist nuts?
nevermind the pun
A complete waste of time for the jury, the court and the prosecution. Is the defense trying to confuse the jury?
This is embarrassing. #shewasborninthe1920s
Is it safe to fast forward through the portion where the jury is present?
Haha! Most of them are!
I agree..very painful to watch them, like bunnies in the headlights...I love this Mr. Overstreet ? very good...
So many of these defense witnesses only seem to offer character reference to Nancy and Dan. Seems to me they would be more in line with mitigation witnesses not defense…so strange!
Why am I watching this confused?
Sounf like the psychologist from the Johnny Depp trial lol must be school mates
WOW! Where do they actually find these “professional psychiatrists?” Holy SHITE!…
Title of video says afternoon session. Was’t this really the morning session?
Yes, morning.
Come on...This is Portland. Not like every other place in the country.....lol
Perhaps the afternoon will be titled morning. I'm on the edge of my seat
Hey Defense !! Can you make us Defense witnesses ? My husband & I drove down that rode a couple of times. Doesn't that make us more than qualified to be flown to Portland, and testify..."Yes I drove that street" and "I don't remember exactly the date or time"....Seems your calling everybody else in Portland....we just want a piece if that pie...lol..In my opinion
Exactly. What a waste of time calling all these useless ppl to the stand. How does the judge allow the defense to continue wasting the courts time.
@@PointBlankGuns-Ammo because this way her case will be bullet proof when she appeals her conviction...she won't be able to say "if l had called witness X, it would have made the difference"
Oops...no pun intended!
I couldn’t agree more , as I said earlier I’m waiting on the drive thru clerk at Starbucks that took Nancy’s order in 1997 and have the defense ask him/her did Nancy love Dan? It took the Titanic 1 hr and 12 mins to sink . Maxfield and Winemiller now have set a world record . Ugh
If they think their witness’ are going to steer the jury to their side they are on another planet. Are the attys allowed to read these comments in real time ? I realize I’m commenting after verdict .
In my opinion I wouldn’t have these 2 yo-yos defend me out of a parking ticket. The look on Maxfield’s face when verdict was read was priceless . Were they at the same trial I watched ??
Not 1 objection from the prosecutor he must be new. There's a hearsay objection and a relevance objection with every witness the defense calls.
There doing nothing but wasting the jurors time with an these clowns they keep calling.
The prosecutor has had a strategy of letting the defense witnesses shoot off their mouths with word salad until they shoot themselves in the foot. He's done this with every member of Nancy's family, and now with the psychologist. They just can't help themselves. It might not be standard procedure, but I think it's brilliant.
@@sleuththewild l agree...and it's the defense who called the "waste 'o time" witnesses...so if the jury gets annoyed with anyone it would be the defense...also, calling every person who ever said 2 words to Nancy, it looks desparate...and the more they do it, the worse they look
Wow, this so-called psychologist needs to have her license cancelled ASAP. She’s clearly incompetent.
I disagree. This expert shows how trauma can and does affect memory as if you recall, Nancy took the stand and had different stories of what she did on that fateful morning when she murdered her husband of 26 years that she claims was due to the trauma of her husband being murdered which affected her 'recall' aka memory. Gaps in memory are filled in by the human brain caused from trauma and we call it 'Confabulation' which is a memory error that involves creating false memories or distorting memories about oneself or the world. People who confabulate are unaware that their information is false and sincerely believe it to be true. This is different from lying, where the person is aware that they are lying.
Confabulation is often associated with: Brain damage, Certain types of dementia, Memory disorders, and Mental health conditions.
Confabulation can be triggered when someone is asked about their injury or disability. The false memories can extend to the present and its expected consequences. They can often contain symbolic themes related to the person's identity and social connections.
An example of confabulation is if someone is asked where they've been to and they respond with a story about a trip to Antarctica, even though they've never been there. It's not uncommon for folks with dementia to confabulate and the astute noticed this when Joe Biden talked about his past.
Shayna greenlick seems can't say ANYTHING without starting out with "oomm,ummm,aahh,and!!! Even using ummm,oomm,aahh in the middle of a sentence!!
Omg...about 10 minutes in to the psychiatrist 104 hearing....
She is giving a conference presentation! 😂😂
What does any of this have to do with anything?!!
Don't attend one of her lectures and take an exam you will get a F , We are in Alyce la Violette LA Bla Land
Years ago I was involved in fact finding where the original MMPI was in play. That test was not validated for the subject (my complainant). Evidently the testing company continues to update its product. That said, I think the jury should see the report generated by the test publisher as it does make comments about the subject’s behavior that are interesting… such as she avoids accountability.
Other than that she said that there are no indications of abuse by Dan. No news there.
Ooooh, say more, NellPlotts!
The afternoon session has more.....I got your tip here and my ears pricked up when the prosecutor started to read off the formal conclusions generated by the test publisher. They were VERY harsh words: all kinds of red flags.
Dan sounds like such a great and kind man. Both of them seemed conscious of each other's needs and allowed each other to grow and flex these needs. I would like to know what the real reason is that Nancy wanted to kill him. We're just presuming it's financial but there must be more to it. Was it the constant mess (that would freak me out tbh I'd be clearing and chucking stuff when he wasn't looking). I wonder if their marriage wasn't so great behind closed doors
This lady is so talking a word salad in a circle!!!! awful!!!!
I had to turn it off. I couldn't stop laughing.
Well now we have the verdict we all know that this 'so called doctor' is a fraud. I hope she is dismissed in the future.
Hope the jury cited the self absorbed but obliviously stupid “ psychologists “ train wreck testimony when Nancy was convicted 😂
Snark. That mask on the wrist like a bracelet looks like one of those little girls' purses from the 1960's. They go with white Mary Janes.
This too boring when is the rebuttal?
Anyone know when the defense is supposed to conclude their case? I want to watch when Nancy testifies.
I saw someone's comment that she's up for Friday. Don't quote me!
@@barbaragrove6097 thanks... hard to imagine what else they've got for 2 more days.
"IF" her attorneys (if you want to call them that) think she is winning the jury (which I think they're bored to death)...not going to happen. Besides, the Prosecutor has not been the sharpest tool in the shed, and likely would only ask about her shoes, her hair or if shes' thirsty ??....Shes' gonna walk...unfortunetly...But, the Insurance Co. are in the wings waiting to charge her with Insurance Fraud..Just like Al Capone.....In my opinion
@@barbaragrove6097 could it be Thursday? I thought the lawyers were using Friday for a "all day" motions hearing about the rebuttal witness for the state (cell mate, maybe?)
@@saharaussery6799 Why would they need all day for the hearing about the bunkie?
He is rocking her world.
Even the judge is starting to get tired of her around 1 h 15 min. And after one and a half hour he actually cuts her off. And to my surprise they were still only on the subject of if she is qualified or not as a witness!! I dread that actual testimony..
She’s so guilty
This forensic pathologist! So unprepared then reads a book before answering a question
After watching the nb trial I'm concluding and can see I too could have been a psychologist specialist!!! after seeing all the witnesses!!!
This specialist just figured out the problem that caused nb for her " temporary amnesia",the Vagas nerve that goes from her brain down to her rear!!!
As someone who has lived with (and dutifully continue to receive treatment for) a dissociative disorder for about 32 years (and someone who earned a doctorate), please allow me to just say: Ok true, but obviously not in this case.
What is she even saying, at this point?🤣
Goose chase ..?!!!🙄
This defense attorney is so rude to her own expert witness?? 1:05:14
I call bs when a so called expert in psych over uses the word 'again' especially when in original statements
Word salad and some name and date ..!?🤦
I thought she was interesting
This witness is so interesting & taught me a hell of a lot!! I like hearing about our bodys reactions to things. Freud is an absolute moron, imagine all the abused kids who weren't believed since "child molestation is a figment of their imagination & people don't actually do that" 🙄 Lots of cool info though.
For every child who isn't believed, there is another who has been coached by the psychiatrist into believing they were SAd when they never were, resulting in both the patient and the falsely accused to have their lives ruined. This woman is definitely the type to do that.
@@WobblesandBean Can you link me to where you read that statistic? What you're suggesting would cause their license to be revoked, I'm wondering what reputable organization compiled that data.
@@WobblesandBean yeah thats what I thought
why are those people wearing masks???
Because this isn’t Alabama.
Lol don’t want to be shown who they are ppl love hiding there face I’m shocked the murder doesn’t ask to keep the mask on . On the stand lol
Lol don’t want to be shown who they are ppl love hiding there face I’m shocked the murder doesn’t ask to keep the mask on . On the stand lol
The lady with short, dark hair seems really nice.