Love how you got the background on the truck. Love how you went through it and got her purrring again. She shouldn’t have been sitting so long. And her name is big burffa. That’s what Skimma. Mr brooks called her. You got a diamond 💎. I’m still watching you
Wayne, I cut my teeth driving back in the late 70's and early 80's and got to drive some of the high HP west coast trucks back in the day! I took a job as a lease operator with Riley Whittle, out of Phoenix, and when they were feeling me out to see if I could drive, one of the guys from the shop ask if I could drive a 14 speed Spicer? I had never drove one, but knew I could, with some practice! So I calmly said no problem, and they showed me a O/O spec'd 1976 Freightliner Cab over, 96" cab, NTC 350 Cummins, 14 speed Spicer, 4.11 rears! Very nice, almost new truck, with a matching 42'6" Great Dane refer, stainless front and rear doors, and all Aluminum rims! The Cummins was turned way up, had a big Cat turbo, and was a a for sure large car, for back in the day! As we talked and went over all the stuff that had been done to this truck they told me that the truck and trailer had mostly sat since it was leased on, because no one could drive it! After the test drive, they told me that this was my truck, and to treat it like my own! I got paid a % of what the truck made, and it made me and them a lot of money! Your 110" cab Pete is a stepper and a definite triple digit truck with 355 rears and the 13 OD! You never know, I may have run with that truck back in the day, haulin ass from the west coast to the Mid west! Oklahoma City Peterbilt were one of the go to dealers for ordering large cars back in the day, along with Kansas City Peterbilt!
Wayne, this is probably my favorite video on your channel! The honest passion, love of your truck-it's genuine and relatable! Going into detail why you love that truck was a fun watch!
@@Ol2Stroker for me, I get excited about welding, TJ generation Jeeps, Imperial luxury cars and 68-70 Chargers! Same feeling I get as you with your '73 COE!
@@jasonholloway2476 I'm not gonna lie to you a 69 charger General Lee is on my must have list. I grew up watching the Duke's and I'd love to be able to piss pound one of those
@@Ol2Stroker Niiice! I want two triple black '68s...a factory stock Hemi R/T just as it came from Hamtramck, and a '68 restomod with Demon or Hellcat power, disc brakes all around, etc.
Great explanation of the 352. That truck must have been a real looker right out of the factory when brand new for sure with all of the custom touches and chrome stuff. It's definitely in a good home with someone who appreciates it for what it is.
I think I mentioned this before but during the pipeline build in Alaska, the trucking companies ordered GMC V12 because they were the easiest to get at the time in large quantity. My cousin is from Alaska and was telling me about that. His dad was CAT mechanic for Michigan Cat that had the contract to repair the equipment up there. Cool stuff.
Early power assist used air pressure to run the cylinder on the tie rod. The construction company mentioned below had a 69 & 70 narrow nosed KWs with 8 yard Smith mixers set up with the air cylinders. They got changed to hydraulic in the 1980 range. They had 220 Cummins Ford engines bumped to 235 or 250 HP; one with a turbo & one with a belt driven supercharger. Both had 5/4 trans set ups with Timken rears (not sure what rating or ratios). They would do really well for the low horsepower engines, getting up to around 70 MPH on fairly level ground. North central Montana sits at around 3500 feet on the level, so the turbo did a bit better than the super. I don't remember what year they were purchased, but I was tapped to help hammer out the barrels every fall, as well as run the powder bag hand truck while loading from the time I was 12 years old on. I also got to work on the equipment over the years & actually learned to drive in an old 1959 IHC twin screw tandem gravel truck with a 549cid gas engine & 5/4trans combo & no synchros. It was a dream to start driving pickups with synchro transmissions. I also remember the first time I drove a truck with an air shift trans.
I love looking at the build sheets for vehicles and equipment , sometimes it looks like a whole different language unless you kinda know what you’re looking at. I built sprayers and the big tire floater trucks for 6 1/2 years and every one has a build sheet with all the different options that people had ordered them with and that’s how we assembled them. Very cool to see 👍
Hey Ol' 4 Stroker. The man who speced that truck was way ahead of his time. Knew exactly what he was doing and what he wanted in his truck. Thanks so much for telling, and sharing the details. Really interesting.
I feel the same way about the super cool little rare details that you don't generally see on other trucks. Knowing that someone had ordered that specific thing a specific way, way back when is just so cool. I can't wait to see the vid on the 3408 truck. I love hearing you talk about all this cool shit
@@Ol2Stroker you could make a few hour long podcast just talking about cool old trucks and id listen to it lol. Also I ordered me a Keychain, can't wait to put it on my keys
Really enjoyed this video! Brought back memories. Those of us at moving companies in the 70's and 80's hauling HHG and Hi-tech ($$$) tended towards the big toys and big engines. Thanks for recognizing the historical importance of that time. I was lucky to be part of it. Ain't gonna happen again!
I told you that you are a genius. Other than the limited horsepower was the limited torque. If I remember correctly torque was between 700 and 1200 lbs ft. The biggest reason for the aluminum frame and housings was weight. Trailers were very heavy. Air ride was rare to non existent at that time. Really cool video Wayne. I'm geeking out. 😆
Beautiful truck Wayne , the 12V71 was the Big Dog for sure at the time along with the 1693s or " Clatter- pillers" as their nicknamed for the unique start up sounds , although not unusual in the early production models on the 110" sleepers , and I'm sure I'm not 100 percent correct , it's rare to see the breather pipe down through the cab , common yes for the single bunks but later on I think most 110s had the pipe mounted beside the passenger side exhaust , again I'm probably exactly correct on that , there's only one Peterbilt advertisement from OVERDRIVE MAGAZINE where I saw dual mounted A/C condensers , it's the early 70s add of the head on shot at night and looks like it's raining , COE is light green and white , 👍👍👍👍.
Did Mack have any big horsepower engines back then? You did say "Big Dog..." I don't remember hearing them mentioned in the video. I guess the Super Liners were later on?
@@DanEBoyd yea Dan the superliner was late 78 iirc, so it was around the time everyone else had big power. Iirc the e9 500 V8 debuted with the superliner
My brother had a cruiseliner cabover with a v8 mack motor in it...500 hp....Back in the day of hauling lumber in the late 80.s he had superliner with v8 mack also....he'll of a truck with ton of grunt
Man I love the old trucks and learning about the history of them. I'm a professional driver and seeing you work on and drive these old trucks makes me want to buy one to drive. Can't wait to see more!
I love old manuals I actually have the complete set of books and a huge wiring diagram for my 55 GMC 4104 coach. I trust it more than whàt I read on the interweb. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos Wayne.
Nothing wrong with being a Truck Nerd, thanks for giving me a better understanding of what stuff means on a build sheet. I'm going to go back over mine now. Thanks again Wayne
Hi Wayne ! Over the year's I've driven lots of different fleet semi trucks. As long as they got me safely to my destination, and back again , for the most part I didn't really care, or even think about how they were specked out. Mainly because I was driving company truck's, and didn't have any say so to begin with. Your Pete is nice. I hope you keep working on it , an eventually get it the way it came from the factory, an the way you want it . Take it easy Wayne , an enjoy your weekend !
Thanks Maxx! That's how it was for a lot of guys, the truck didn't matter it was a tool to get the work done. Then there were some stand out exceptions!
Man I love that you did this. I so enjoy the history of the truck as much as the truck its self. How it was built and all the specs about it. Exciting to see how they did the trucks then and even today with special trucks. Also, you only looking out for specialized trucks makes your channel even better. There are lots of random everyday trucks out there but to find what you have is something special for sure. Rare engine combinations is awesome among the other rare components. See if you can find a 4 axle cabover with a V12 in it one day or a CAT 3408. I'm sure that is a tough find. The 359 V8 CAT is going to give old Pete the cabover a run for its money. LOL For me at least. Cant wait.
Man, that Astro was friggin' sweet! I didn't know that the no front brakes era included the '70s. I've seen some CF Freightliners online, which had all kinds of wild equipment for dealing with mountains and winter. Some of them old Freightliners came with aluminum frames too. '73 must've been about the end of the air intake running through the cab - and I've never noticed that setup with an extended sleeper. Mossybroke is the Phantom 1309... Excellent video! Damn sure better than any class in school...
The intakes through the cab was the dumbest thing ever. The last cabover I had before this one was a v12 truck originally too, but it was an 86" cab and had 2 of them damn air intakes up through the cab! Ultra rare but holy cramped!
@@Ol2Stroker Yep every time you jacked up the cab it would break the seal. I sure got tired of that. It always leaked down into the bunk and tool compartment. One truck I was glad to get rid of.
I like the truck, but I absolutely love the intro! Probably the most faithful recreation of the opening, and with a Pete Cabover! Keep up the good work!
1. Love the Big Bertha/SATB intro! 2. In the old pictures of Mossy Broke, any idea what that was in front of the tanks? Boxes? 3. Those some lights on the 352 are wild! Having em in the boxes is a great idea too.
One of your absolute best videos! Imagine having the oppurtunity talking to the original owner regarding just why you would spec "this and that". The cabover must have cost a fortune compared to other alternatives. Anyway, great video, keep 'em coming!
Great video, Wayne. The chap who specc’d that truck originally knew what he was about. Great to see you explain the different unique touches that your 352 was built with.
I love that old cabover. In the early to late 80's I would go with my dad on short overnight Midwest runs during my summer vacation. I loved every minute. It's great to see your keeping these old trucks alive.
Great video Wayne, learned a lot about your 352 it is filled with rare options Back then it took someone who knew what they wanted installed on the truck but it also took a salesman that knew the brand he was selling. There were no computers with check boxes to mark off, there were loads of 3 ring binders that the salesman and client poured over to get exactly what the client wanted. Anything was available not like today where if you want one thing you'd have to purchase it in a package with other items that you might not want.
Thanks for posting, back in the 60’s my dad and a neighbor down the road gave me truck brochures when I was a kid, I used to spec my truck when I was 12 years old. My dad used to say you think big for someone with no job and no money.lol
Wayne, there was another Brockway dump truck at The Buck motorsports park this past Saturday (south of Lancaster, Pa. on route 272) at truckers day. Almost 600 trucks there, showing and/or pulling. Pretty big event, all day. A few from N.Y. Check into it, you might want to attend in the future.
Wayne Do You Remember the Truck Paper that came out every month ??? Shelby Elliott Had Some Of THE COOLEST Trucks he Specialized in V-8 Petes and Kenworths Back in The 80's and any ODD BALL Type of Truck Buying them and selling them Just one of my Favorite Memories from way back when !!! Great Vid Keep em comin !!!
We have many manuals of old trucks in our library at dealership. I've thumb through them interesting reading. At old location since 1973 but we just moved to new shop in June. Since we moved we didn't take them with us because we don't work on that stuff anymore. We have co-worker who has 73 cabover, 76 patriot 359 and patriot cabover. He has all of old manuals for petebilt, engines, transmission, rears, steering, microfiche cards and so on. We had 2 sets of microfiche so we still have them and he has the other set. Microfiche In ECAT now for most part
Hi from uk Wayne 👋👍 yes I think also the word rare has a certain element of unique about it too as these trucks especially the cabover is unique yo to the original owner. And i am certainly impressed of how together the truck still I'd off the paper work you have also for S&G you'll find the cover on the front of the manual 🤣 hope someone can help get the few odds and ends to bring the cabover back to spec 👍can't wait till you get the workshop done and maybe think uou should keep all decorative posters or signs you get for that once done and also have a wall for old licence plates you come across think would really give you a buzz everytime you enter for work to be carried in future I call it wall motivation so on bad days or hard days your still inspired to keep moving forward 👌 thanks for your time be safe and see you soon 👍 👋
thanks for showing us the cool equipment on Big Bertha and another engine back in the day that was a powerful engine was the big al an engine made by allis chalmers tractor company it was painted purple and was mainly found in freightliner cab over and was about a 450 horse engine a friend told me knew a person that drove one back in the day
Yessir Matt, they had a terrible time keeping cranks in em and between that and not having the service network of the other engine manufacturers is what killed em. Shame too! I think they were late 70s. My buddy just restored one he's putting in a truck. Good comment I totally forgot about them!
Really enjoyed the video or the history on the Pete’s, ole Bertha is a keeper ! What’s the story of the grill cover thing, you’ve probably said before but I may have missed it
Just something guys used to do back in the day to decorate their trucks. It's a super old school thing and the OG owner put it there so I gotta leave it!
@@Ol2Stroker How do you feel about IH transtar cabover 69-75 ish , did they spec them with Detroits , there were tons of them and White freight liners on the road along with the Pete’s and K W s back in the day always liked those
I really like this sort of thing. Great vid. Truck options and oddball stuff that made it out there and how they did things. In regards to the Pyro big power trucks often were drove hard, heavy, or even both. I feel that's where the dual pyros came in.
Absolutely brilliant channel Wayne just subscribed, really appreciate your video's and the amount I've learnt about the older trucks especially the cabover's and engine derivative's of the time.
Hey now, proud to know that the '73 Peterbuilt came from my home state of Oklahoma! Makes me especially glad I found your channel a while back. Hope she treats you well for as long as you own it.
The construction company that my dad worked for bought a 1974 KW 900 that was spec'ed by a farm family. They had 3 or 4 identical trucks with aluminum frames, 350 Cummins, 6spd main, 4spd OD aux, rear 3.73 geared, Spicer DD/RD52 drives, 14,000 steer. He had a brother who worked for Cummins for years build a hot rod Big Cam II 400 for it that was said to put out nearly 500 horsepower. It was a pretty cool truck that would drag a 48' cement powder tanker & 28' pup up the Rocky Mountain pass at 50 pretty easy. I don't know what size tires were originally used (it was changed to 11.00 x 24.5 when the guy put it as he wanted it) or who bought it when the company was dismantled & sold after he died in the late 90s..42
Thanks for going through the build sheet Wayne. Very educational. I'm sure it's been Said before but the fact it's so intact is the most amazing thing. Good video Wayne. Can't wait for the next one
Excellent video, love checking out the build sheets. The gentleman that ordered that 352 took "Peterbilt Class" to the next level. Gotta get a new horn pull strap for it though!
Wow, I've never seen a Marmon calendar, awesome. I'm a little surprised that the cabover being double bunk and nicely spec'd out wasn't ordered with nicer sears, like High backs.
Great video Wayne really enjoyed the build sheet on Big Bertha 352 and the spec's it was built with that make it rare. Thanks for the history of your trucks. Looking forward to the next video stay safe Wayne.
Awesome video Wayne, thanks for sharing some of the cool stuff on the 352. That guy really knew what to check off on the build sheet. Having a heated mirror on the little peek-a-boo window is definitely a touch of class. Have you ever done the math to calculate what the top end might be with the 13 over and 3.55’s? I kind of chuckled to myself watching you climb down from the cab…back in the day I would just push the door open and jump…which is probably the reason why I walk the way I do these days…
was the the house screen door protector factory on the grill of the 1973 352 . ?😁😁😁😁😁😁😁. this was very informative for a truck or any other auto then or even now
I have been trying to place that paint job and when you said Global Van Lines, I wonder if it was custom OO painted for Global or Atlas VL. Also, R-Model Macks in the early 70's, the horn button said Custom Built for John Smith by Mack.
Awesome video, my second favorite part about these trucks is finding out the history. Where did it come from, who had it, why was it spec’d the way it was. I think my actual favorite is the first clean out. It tells so much about where it’s been and who’s been caring for it or not! Keep up the great work man
I've already seen that out of you, with ol mossy that truck is badass the color scheme alone screams badass, then you hear that damn Detroit just creeping lol. Thanks for sharing bro can't wait for the next video, on that damn cat you might've found you a beast. 💯
Hope you find either Clemons or someone who knew him. That fella could spec a truck... She's going to look mega once she is all done and restored!! Spec sheet is fantastic.
There's a 77 white commander come locally for 2k I'd love to pick up and use but I'm so broke for a month or two. I also have a set of early 90's Pete air suspension 307 rear ends I'm told are very sought after by truckers. Good video, I've been around trucks for a good amount but don't know this kind of stuff.
Gday Wayne Awesome video my friend love that old cabover rare to see a truck that old and unmolested you can definitely Tell the owner loved that truck and looked after her for many years.Thanks for sharing.🍻🍻
Wasn't the freightliner powerliner the big horse power truck available at the time of this peterbilt from freightliner. It had the big grille for the really big radiator
That is a pretty unique 352 and it is truly amazing that is still mostly intact, as originally built. Lots of custom touches. It was, as Peterbilt's slogan used to claim, a touch of class. Today, class 8 COE's are no longer made. Back in the 70's and well into the 80's, they were the most common configuration seen on the interstates in the east due to length restrictions.
Love it! Thanks for taking the time to go through the build sheet and share the coolness factor(s) of your junk. Got me flipping thru my 84's build sheet looking for some of the less common things now..haha
@@Ol2Stroker exactly! I'm not sure how common things like the chrome steering column and chrome shifter were... But I've got a few oddities...but nothing cool like a chrome exhaust or fluorescent lights in the bunk!
@@Ol2Stroker I don't think there's much else that was chrome or polished, but it did get weird options - 48" 5th wheel slider, rears were spec'd for pulling heavy..that sorta thing. I will admit I've not sat down and gone thru the build sheet line by line so there is probably more in there that'll have me scratching my head going... Wtf! I've got one of the Pete seats with the storage box in near perfect shape if you need one... It's blue though... LoL
Thanks for the video Wayne. I’m sitting up here in Boston feeling like I died and went to Hell. Can’t wait to get outta here. My first name is Wayne as well. 👍
@@Ol2Stroker Boston is shutting down the Orange Line of their subway system. They’ve contracted with bus companies from all over the USA to move subway passengers on charter buses. I’m here trying to provide supervision/support to our company drivers that are here. It’s an absolute cluster downtown. Gonna be that way until September 19th.
Love how you got the background on the truck. Love how you went through it and got her purrring again. She shouldn’t have been sitting so long. And her name is big burffa. That’s what Skimma. Mr brooks called her. You got a diamond 💎. I’m still watching you
Wayne, I cut my teeth driving back in the late 70's and early 80's and got to drive some of the high HP west coast trucks back in the day! I took a job as a lease operator with Riley Whittle, out of Phoenix, and when they were feeling me out to see if I could drive, one of the guys from the shop ask if I could drive a 14 speed Spicer? I had never drove one, but knew I could, with some practice! So I calmly said no problem, and they showed me a O/O spec'd 1976 Freightliner Cab over, 96" cab, NTC 350 Cummins, 14 speed Spicer, 4.11 rears! Very nice, almost new truck, with a matching 42'6" Great Dane refer, stainless front and rear doors, and all Aluminum rims! The Cummins was turned way up, had a big Cat turbo, and was a a for sure large car, for back in the day! As we talked and went over all the stuff that had been done to this truck they told me that the truck and trailer had mostly sat since it was leased on, because no one could drive it! After the test drive, they told me that this was my truck, and to treat it like my own! I got paid a % of what the truck made, and it made me and them a lot of money!
Your 110" cab Pete is a stepper and a definite triple digit truck with 355 rears and the 13 OD! You never know, I may have run with that truck back in the day, haulin ass from the west coast to the Mid west!
Oklahoma City Peterbilt were one of the go to dealers for ordering large cars back in the day, along with Kansas City Peterbilt!
Man that's badass Stanley! I wish we could go back in time, I'm so jealous of you guys that got to live it
Send in some pictures if you can.
The videos just keep getting better Wayne! Can't wait for the next one.
Thanks Albert!
Wayne, this is probably my favorite video on your channel! The honest passion, love of your truck-it's genuine and relatable! Going into detail why you love that truck was a fun watch!
Thanks Jason I was honestly really outside my wheelhouse here and wasn't sure y'all would even watch!
@@Ol2Stroker for me, I get excited about welding, TJ generation Jeeps, Imperial luxury cars and 68-70 Chargers! Same feeling I get as you with your '73 COE!
@@jasonholloway2476 I'm not gonna lie to you a 69 charger General Lee is on my must have list. I grew up watching the Duke's and I'd love to be able to piss pound one of those
@@Ol2Stroker Niiice! I want two triple black '68s...a factory stock Hemi R/T just as it came from Hamtramck, and a '68 restomod with Demon or Hellcat power, disc brakes all around, etc.
@@jasonholloway2476 yessssss. Man that is a classic body style
Great explanation of the 352. That truck must have been a real looker right out of the factory when brand new for sure with all of the custom touches and chrome stuff. It's definitely in a good home with someone who appreciates it for what it is.
It was! If you go back to episode 3 or 4 of the 352 playlist there's pictures of it brand new!
Awesome
New Smokey and The Bandit Intro
Prop up
It seemed weird doing cabover videos with a MossyBroke intro!
Alternating AC
I think I mentioned this before but during the pipeline build in Alaska, the trucking companies ordered GMC V12 because they were the easiest to get at the time in large quantity. My cousin is from Alaska and was telling me about that. His dad was CAT mechanic for Michigan Cat that had the contract to repair the equipment up there. Cool stuff.
Badass! Lots of 12s in Alaska and that explains it
Thanks for the video, Wayne! Keep being yourself, it's the reason I watch the videos. Have a good day!
Early power assist used air pressure to run the cylinder on the tie rod. The construction company mentioned below had a 69 & 70 narrow nosed KWs with 8 yard Smith mixers set up with the air cylinders. They got changed to hydraulic in the 1980 range. They had 220 Cummins Ford engines bumped to 235 or 250 HP; one with a turbo & one with a belt driven supercharger. Both had 5/4 trans set ups with Timken rears (not sure what rating or ratios). They would do really well for the low horsepower engines, getting up to around 70 MPH on fairly level ground. North central Montana sits at around 3500 feet on the level, so the turbo did a bit better than the super. I don't remember what year they were purchased, but I was tapped to help hammer out the barrels every fall, as well as run the powder bag hand truck while loading from the time I was 12 years old on. I also got to work on the equipment over the years & actually learned to drive in an old 1959 IHC twin screw tandem gravel truck with a 549cid gas engine & 5/4trans combo & no synchros. It was a dream to start driving pickups with synchro transmissions. I also remember the first time I drove a truck with an air shift trans.
I love looking at the build sheets for vehicles and equipment , sometimes it looks like a whole different language unless you kinda know what you’re looking at. I built sprayers and the big tire floater trucks for 6 1/2 years and every one has a build sheet with all the different options that people had ordered them with and that’s how we assembled them. Very cool to see 👍
Build sheets are my favorite part!
Great video man. Love your green truck. From a fellow NYer
Hey Ol' 4 Stroker. The man who speced that truck was way ahead of his time. Knew
exactly what he was doing and what he wanted in his truck. Thanks so much for telling, and sharing the details. Really interesting.
💯💯💯 I'm glad y'all are enjoying this I really was unsure about posting it
That dual pyrometers is totally true they were in a lot of Hayes and pacific log trucks that had V-12 Detroit’s
I dunno what the deal was there but super cool!
Kenworth list that dual pyro as an option in their 1976 parts catalogue
@@gwstonemason it was an option on all of em I think
Seeing the video makes me want to find a rare Peterbilt COE like yours, older trucks definitely rule.
Wayne that truck was in Maryland for years great to see you restoring it
Yup sat right on rt 4! It was parked in that spot in 84 and never moved!
I feel the same way about the super cool little rare details that you don't generally see on other trucks. Knowing that someone had ordered that specific thing a specific way, way back when is just so cool. I can't wait to see the vid on the 3408 truck. I love hearing you talk about all this cool shit
Man that's awesome thanks because I was super nervous about doing just a talking video.
@@Ol2Stroker you could make a few hour long podcast just talking about cool old trucks and id listen to it lol.
Also I ordered me a Keychain, can't wait to put it on my keys
@@Mun56203 badass thanks man! I got a bunch of orders actually I'm shocked. Gonna get em all out today!
Excellent information an look into another day an age.
Hell yea!
Awesome Video, Wayne. Great Explanation of how they were built. Thanks
Thanks man!
Really enjoyed this video! Brought back memories. Those of us at moving companies in the 70's and 80's hauling HHG and Hi-tech ($$$) tended towards the big toys and big engines. Thanks for recognizing the historical importance of that time. I was lucky to be part of it. Ain't gonna happen again!
Man I am so jealous of y'all that got to live it!!! Lucky!
I was part of that too, big horse! I was lucky to have been a part of it back then
I told you that you are a genius. Other than the limited horsepower was the limited torque. If I remember correctly torque was between 700 and 1200 lbs ft. The biggest reason for the aluminum frame and housings was weight. Trailers were very heavy. Air ride was rare to non existent at that time. Really cool video Wayne. I'm geeking out. 😆
Thanks man! Yup it was all about light weight and this loaded out tractor only weighs 15k.
My 79 kw lw 924 had a 3408 and it was a beast of a logging truck loads of power and smooth pulling in the basement revs
Badass. I can't wait to see how it pulls!
Beautiful truck Wayne , the 12V71 was the Big Dog for sure at the time along with the 1693s or " Clatter- pillers" as their nicknamed for the unique start up sounds , although not unusual in the early production models on the 110" sleepers , and I'm sure I'm not 100 percent correct , it's rare to see the breather pipe down through the cab , common yes for the single bunks but later on I think most 110s had the pipe mounted beside the passenger side exhaust , again I'm probably exactly correct on that , there's only one Peterbilt advertisement from OVERDRIVE MAGAZINE where I saw dual mounted A/C condensers , it's the early 70s add of the head on shot at night and looks like it's raining , COE is light green and white , 👍👍👍👍.
Hmmmmm I'll have to go back through my overdrives and see it!
Did Mack have any big horsepower engines back then? You did say "Big Dog..." I don't remember hearing them mentioned in the video. I guess the Super Liners were later on?
@@DanEBoyd yea Dan the superliner was late 78 iirc, so it was around the time everyone else had big power. Iirc the e9 500 V8 debuted with the superliner
My brother had a cruiseliner cabover with a v8 mack motor in it...500 hp....Back in the day of hauling lumber in the late 80.s he had superliner with v8 mack also....he'll of a truck with ton of grunt
@@edvisser3629 yesssss I need one of them!
Man I love the old trucks and learning about the history of them. I'm a professional driver and seeing you work on and drive these old trucks makes me want to buy one to drive. Can't wait to see more!
Thanks Ben they're alotta work and a labor of love but I do love em!
@@Ol2Stroker I can see your passion. I'd much rather work on an older truck than mess with all the computers and sensors on this new junk!
@@bendahmm7393 true that Ben thanks!
I love old manuals I actually have the complete set of books and a huge wiring diagram for my 55 GMC 4104 coach. I trust it more than whàt I read on the interweb. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos Wayne.
Thanks man. Did you like this style video? I was super hesitant to post.
yeah me too, managed to find at a local swapmeet a complete 5 book Master Parts volumes Kenworth dealers used for my K125.
I could listen to someone who's passionate about something talk all day about something and when it's about old American iron I'm all in dude.
@@Ol2Stroker loved it iv been covered in grease all week so sometimes it's nice to just go over paperwork lol
@@lilypondgarage2968 me too brother! Been building the x5 and the caddy off camera!
Hi ya Wayne I think you should open your back sleeper curtains and let some light shine in
I probably should you're right!
Nothing wrong with being a Truck Nerd, thanks for giving me a better understanding of what stuff means on a build sheet. I'm going to go back over mine now. Thanks again Wayne
Happy to help glad y'all enjoying it
Hi Wayne ! Over the year's I've driven lots of different fleet semi trucks. As long as they got me safely to my destination, and back again , for the most part I didn't really care, or even think about how they were specked out. Mainly because I was driving company truck's, and didn't have any say so to begin with. Your Pete is nice. I hope you keep working on it , an eventually get it the way it came from the factory, an the way you want it . Take it easy Wayne , an enjoy your weekend !
Thanks Maxx! That's how it was for a lot of guys, the truck didn't matter it was a tool to get the work done. Then there were some stand out exceptions!
Man I love that you did this. I so enjoy the history of the truck as much as the truck its self. How it was built and all the specs about it. Exciting to see how they did the trucks then and even today with special trucks. Also, you only looking out for specialized trucks makes your channel even better. There are lots of random everyday trucks out there but to find what you have is something special for sure. Rare engine combinations is awesome among the other rare components. See if you can find a 4 axle cabover with a V12 in it one day or a CAT 3408. I'm sure that is a tough find. The 359 V8 CAT is going to give old Pete the cabover a run for its money. LOL For me at least. Cant wait.
Hell yea Brad I'm really anxious to see how the 2 trucks compare power wise.
Man, that Astro was friggin' sweet! I didn't know that the no front brakes era included the '70s. I've seen some CF Freightliners online, which had all kinds of wild equipment for dealing with mountains and winter. Some of them old Freightliners came with aluminum frames too. '73 must've been about the end of the air intake running through the cab - and I've never noticed that setup with an extended sleeper. Mossybroke is the Phantom 1309...
Excellent video! Damn sure better than any class in school...
Intake through the sleeper went on at least through 1980.
The 1980 I drove had it and that sucker leaked like a sieve in heavy rain.
The intakes through the cab was the dumbest thing ever. The last cabover I had before this one was a v12 truck originally too, but it was an 86" cab and had 2 of them damn air intakes up through the cab! Ultra rare but holy cramped!
Yea Dan no front brakes was a thing until like 75-76 iirc
@@Ol2Stroker Yep every time you jacked up the cab it would break the seal.
I sure got tired of that.
It always leaked down into the bunk and tool compartment.
One truck I was glad to get rid of.
@@willardlentz3044 oh man that'd really piss me off too!
I like the truck, but I absolutely love the intro! Probably the most faithful recreation of the opening, and with a Pete Cabover! Keep up the good work!
Thanks I was really hoping y'all would dig it!
Fully fuelled+ gas
1. Love the Big Bertha/SATB intro!
2. In the old pictures of Mossy Broke, any idea what that was in front of the tanks? Boxes?
3. Those some lights on the 352 are wild! Having em in the boxes is a great idea too.
Thanks man! I think the things in the front of the tanks are chain boxes because it hauled flatbed
Great video man... that truck was born two years before me 😆 2-22-73 is Pete's bday mine is 2-22-1975 😆
If I read it right anyway
Badass!
From the first time I saw your Pete , aka BERTHA I knew she was rare and had great specs , ULTRA SWEET RIG WAYNE BROTHER
Same here Rex! 🤟🤟🤟
I remember most 352 Pete's from the seventies sported 8V71s aka 318 , hp
One of your absolute best videos! Imagine having the oppurtunity talking to the original owner regarding just why you would spec "this and that". The cabover must have cost a fortune compared to other alternatives. Anyway, great video, keep 'em coming!
Thanks I was really worried noone would like it! I would give large sums of money to have that conversation!
DAMN Brother back in the day your Cabover was the Pimp Daddy Truck around... And when You restore it once again it will be a Bad Ass Truck.
Hell yea 🤟🤟
I didn't even finish the video yet but it's great!! I do really enjoy you're videos!!
Love all the information about old trucks. I started working on trucks in the mid 70's. This really brings back memories
Awesome!
Great video, Wayne. The chap who specc’d that truck originally knew what he was about. Great to see you explain the different unique touches that your 352 was built with.
Thanks Ben. I was really nervous how this would go over
Excellent Show, I learn alot more by watching your show, HP wars 70' they were finally getting above the 300 hp mark on average.
Hell yea I love a good historical horsepower war!
I love that old cabover. In the early to late 80's I would go with my dad on short overnight Midwest runs during my summer vacation. I loved every minute. It's great to see your keeping these old trucks alive.
Man that's so cool Eric! I never got to do it as a kid!
Great video Wayne, learned a lot about your 352 it is filled with rare options Back then it took someone who knew what they wanted installed on the truck but it also took a salesman that knew the brand he was selling. There were no computers with check boxes to mark off, there were loads of 3 ring binders that the salesman and client poured over to get exactly what the client wanted. Anything was available not like today where if you want one thing you'd have to purchase it in a package with other items that you might not want.
So true. I would love to find all the old dealer sales material from 73 to keep with this
Thanks for posting, back in the 60’s my dad and a neighbor down the road gave me truck brochures when I was a kid, I used to spec my truck when I was 12 years old. My dad used to say you think big for someone with no job and no money.lol
Oh man them sales brochures would be killer to have nowadays! That's awesome!
Great video i loved the paint schemes they came up with in the 70s mostly on the cabovers
The paint in the 70s was the absolute coolest part of old trucks!
I have a confession im a truck nerd also i enjoyed finding out why its a rare truck an it would have looked great new . Cheers from oz 🇦🇺
Thanks Peter! Maybe I should start a support group for guys like us!
@@Ol2Stroker it would be a lost cause we like old junk too much
@@peterselten500 💯💯
Wayne, there was another Brockway dump truck at The Buck motorsports park this past Saturday (south of Lancaster, Pa. on route 272) at truckers day. Almost 600 trucks there, showing and/or pulling. Pretty big event, all day. A few from N.Y. Check into it, you might want to attend in the future.
Oh cool thanks!
Good to see you again Wayne good luck with the trucks hope you an family have a great weekend buddy
Thanks Tommy you too
Wayne Do You Remember the Truck Paper that came out every month ??? Shelby Elliott Had Some Of THE COOLEST Trucks he Specialized in V-8 Petes and Kenworths Back in The 80's and any ODD BALL Type of Truck Buying them and selling them Just one of my Favorite Memories from way back when !!! Great Vid Keep em comin !!!
Dude I wasn't paying attention to trucks back then but I see the old ads on Facebook every now and again he was the large car specialist for sure!
We have many manuals of old trucks in our library at dealership. I've thumb through them interesting reading. At old location since 1973 but we just moved to new shop in June. Since we moved we didn't take them with us because we don't work on that stuff anymore. We have co-worker who has 73 cabover, 76 patriot 359 and patriot cabover. He has all of old manuals for petebilt, engines, transmission, rears, steering, microfiche cards and so on. We had 2 sets of microfiche so we still have them and he has the other set. Microfiche In ECAT now for most part
Man I wish I could get them old manuals!
Hi from uk Wayne 👋👍 yes I think also the word rare has a certain element of unique about it too as these trucks especially the cabover is unique yo to the original owner. And i am certainly impressed of how together the truck still I'd off the paper work you have also for S&G you'll find the cover on the front of the manual 🤣 hope someone can help get the few odds and ends to bring the cabover back to spec 👍can't wait till you get the workshop done and maybe think uou should keep all decorative posters or signs you get for that once done and also have a wall for old licence plates you come across think would really give you a buzz everytime you enter for work to be carried in future I call it wall motivation so on bad days or hard days your still inspired to keep moving forward 👌 thanks for your time be safe and see you soon 👍 👋
I agree completely Mark! Thanks!
FRICKIN AWESOME WAYNO
Thanks man!
Pretty cool 😎 Wonder why Cleeman didn't specs Jake's on it?
That's my first question also.
Dan is a great guy! Much respect for him!
He's the best!
thanks for showing us the cool equipment on Big Bertha and another engine back in the day that was a powerful engine was the big al an engine made by allis chalmers tractor company it was painted purple and was mainly found in freightliner cab over and was about a 450 horse engine a friend told me knew a person that drove one back in the day
Yessir Matt, they had a terrible time keeping cranks in em and between that and not having the service network of the other engine manufacturers is what killed em. Shame too! I think they were late 70s. My buddy just restored one he's putting in a truck. Good comment I totally forgot about them!
Restored to Period colours/spec it'll be one beautiful truck 🔥🔥
Can't wait to too see the conservation begin 🤞😎
Man I totally agree
Really enjoyed the video or the history on the Pete’s, ole Bertha is a keeper ! What’s the story of the grill cover thing, you’ve probably said before but I may have missed it
Just something guys used to do back in the day to decorate their trucks. It's a super old school thing and the OG owner put it there so I gotta leave it!
@@Ol2Stroker 10/4 it almost looks like something off an expensive screen door or outer door
@@davidbisnette7673 it is!
@@Ol2Stroker How do you feel about IH transtar cabover 69-75 ish , did they spec them with Detroits , there were tons of them and White freight liners on the road along with the Pete’s and K W s back in the day always liked those
I think they're more of a fleet truck. Tbh
Thank You Wayne that's very cool you have that document. It was a informative video👍
I really like this sort of thing. Great vid. Truck options and oddball stuff that made it out there and how they did things. In regards to the Pyro big power trucks often were drove hard, heavy, or even both. I feel that's where the dual pyros came in.
That's a really good thought man. I think it's one of the coolest things about a 12!
Absolutely brilliant channel Wayne just subscribed, really appreciate your video's and the amount I've learnt about the older trucks especially the cabover's and engine derivative's of the time.
Thanks man!
Wayne back in the seventies i believe Mack bought out Brockway so they did probably have some shared service manuals in common
Yes they did Rex!
Brilliant video Wayne. Really interesting stuff 👌
Thanks man!
Hey now, proud to know that the '73 Peterbuilt came from my home state of Oklahoma! Makes me especially glad I found your channel a while back. Hope she treats you well for as long as you own it.
Thanks Austin!
Absolutely love Big Bertha, man! Always had a soft spot for cab overs, and always will. Key chain looks awesome too!
Same here Pinecone!
@@Ol2Stroker I had to laugh when you acted surprised at the keychain.
@@tomkrisel4493 I'm basically Tom Cruise 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Ol2Stroker I've watched more of you than I have of him. Plus I met you at Macungie and I don't even want to meet him.
@@tomkrisel4493 🤣🤣🤣🤣 what can I say I'm a better actor. Lol I'd have zero interest in meeting that dude also.
The construction company that my dad worked for bought a 1974 KW 900 that was spec'ed by a farm family. They had 3 or 4 identical trucks with aluminum frames, 350 Cummins, 6spd main, 4spd OD aux, rear 3.73 geared, Spicer DD/RD52 drives, 14,000 steer. He had a brother who worked for Cummins for years build a hot rod Big Cam II 400 for it that was said to put out nearly 500 horsepower. It was a pretty cool truck that would drag a 48' cement powder tanker & 28' pup up the Rocky Mountain pass at 50 pretty easy. I don't know what size tires were originally used (it was changed to 11.00 x 24.5 when the guy put it as he wanted it) or who bought it when the company was dismantled & sold after he died in the late 90s..42
Cool Don thanks for sharing!
I love the Packer Pete
Go Pack Go
🤟🤟
Thanks for going through the build sheet Wayne. Very educational. I'm sure it's been Said before but the fact it's so intact is the most amazing thing. Good video Wayne. Can't wait for the next one
Yea I got really lucky this one was so untouched
@@Ol2Stroker well sitting for 40 years has its positives and negatives
@@adamhoffman3687 yessir it sure does!
@@Ol2Stroker the wife suggested if you run out of wall space for pictures to use the ceiling.
@@adamhoffman3687 then I'd never get anything done I'd be laying around looking up! Lol
That spec sheet is a sweet find. Did ya get that from Pete? Hell yeah.
Yea got it right from Pete!
Wayno ,what was the RPO code for the screen door grille on the 352? jk, I'm with you on rare junk. I do the same. 💯%
Thats all i see too. Had a few screen doors like that growing up
We all had that. That's what makes it great.
It actually came with a storm window for covering up the rad during winter!
Bahahahah rpo code FRONTDOORP the p is for polished 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Excellent video, love checking out the build sheets. The gentleman that ordered that 352 took "Peterbilt Class" to the next level. Gotta get a new horn pull strap for it though!
Thanks man! Yes I sure do!
Great job wicked Wayne I love all your trucks man thank you for all your hard work on these videos man
Thanks man!
Wow, I've never seen a Marmon calendar, awesome. I'm a little surprised that the cabover being double bunk and nicely spec'd out wasn't ordered with nicer sears, like High backs.
I dunno if they had that in 73 honestly
Most cabovers had low-back seats to aid in ingress/egress from the sleeper, particularly in that era.
@@bowslap yea I've never seen one with highbacks from then.
Thank you Wayne this was a great video
I'm glad y'all enjoyed it!
Great video Wayne really enjoyed the build sheet on Big Bertha 352 and the spec's it was built with that make it rare. Thanks for the history of your trucks. Looking forward to the next video stay safe Wayne.
Thanks Richard! You too!
Cool stuff Wayne thanks for all the neat info
Thanks for tuning in Brian!
When Wayno says "rare" take a swig of beer! 👍
Or "chrome," or "polished..."
I like this game. Shit, I'm drunk already! Lol
BTW that build sheet is gold 👌
Totally!
OMG!!! This Truck is going to be so Amazing Awesome when restored back to factory settings unbelievable the thing's this Truck will have...
I can't wait Kenny!
I’m like you, I love the oddball stuff. Great info Wayne 👍
Hell yea 🤟🤟
Awesome video Wayne, thanks for sharing some of the cool stuff on the 352. That guy really knew what to check off on the build sheet. Having a heated mirror on the little peek-a-boo window is definitely a touch of class. Have you ever done the math to calculate what the top end might be with the 13 over and 3.55’s?
I kind of chuckled to myself watching you climb down from the cab…back in the day I would just push the door open and jump…which is probably the reason why I walk the way I do these days…
Hahaha Bruce I'm already too old and fat to jump! Lol max speed would be 102mph@2400 or 89mph@2100! She's a runner!
Yep. We used to open the door, grab the grab bar and slide down fireman style without using the steps.
@@tomkrisel4493 good for the legs 🤣
was the the house screen door protector factory on the grill of the 1973 352 . ?😁😁😁😁😁😁😁. this was very informative for a truck or any other auto then or even now
Lol no not factory but a period correct mod
Nice video. Wayne's an Aussie truckie, Certainly an unusual list of options.
Hell yea you guys rock🤟🤟
I have been trying to place that paint job and when you said Global Van Lines, I wonder if it was custom OO painted for Global or Atlas VL. Also, R-Model Macks in the early 70's, the horn button said Custom Built for John Smith by Mack.
I'm curious about the paint now too
Awesome video, my second favorite part about these trucks is finding out the history. Where did it come from, who had it, why was it spec’d the way it was. I think my actual favorite is the first clean out. It tells so much about where it’s been and who’s been caring for it or not! Keep up the great work man
Dude same here!
Very interesting information Wayne. I really enjoyed the video and as usual, can hardly wait until the next one.
Thanks bud!
I've already seen that out of you, with ol mossy that truck is badass the color scheme alone screams badass, then you hear that damn Detroit just creeping lol. Thanks for sharing bro can't wait for the next video, on that damn cat you might've found you a beast. 💯
Thanks Donnell!
Hope you find either Clemons or someone who knew him. That fella could spec a truck... She's going to look mega once she is all done and restored!! Spec sheet is fantastic.
Me too Sam thanks!
I agree ,for instance would you pass a powerliner with a 3408 cat or hold out for one with a 12v71 149 tt?
I already have a 3408 so now I'd be looking for say a powerliner with a 12v71tt or a KT cummins
@@Ol2Stroker Oh sh*t yeah, a Powerliner would be one sweet COE!
@@goratgo1970 I need one
Another great 3 beer 🍺 video
Think I had at least that filming 🤣🤣
Love the Smoky and the Bandit themed intros!!
Thanks man!
I love those old cabovers especially the one with the V12 screaming Jimmy
Looking forward to see what you do with that V8 cat
Hell yea thanks!
Brilliant walk around Wayne, really great episode. Like to hear your thoughts on truck specs. Cheers
Thanks man I really appreciate that
There's a 77 white commander come locally for 2k I'd love to pick up and use but I'm so broke for a month or two.
I also have a set of early 90's Pete air suspension 307 rear ends I'm told are very sought after by truckers.
Good video, I've been around trucks for a good amount but don't know this kind of stuff.
Oooo yea those rears might be cool! Are they Eaton's or Rockwell's?
@@Ol2Stroker Rockwell, I'll send you an email
Gday Wayne Awesome video my friend love that old cabover rare to see a truck that old and unmolested you can definitely Tell the owner loved that truck and looked after her for many years.Thanks for sharing.🍻🍻
They really did!
Wasn't the freightliner powerliner the big horse power truck available at the time of this peterbilt from freightliner. It had the big grille for the really big radiator
V12s! Didn't they make one or two of those with turbine engines?
I think it was between 2-5 with twin turbos. It was Bertollino ( might of spelled it wrong ), a produce hauler out of central calif.
Bertolino had a few yea. But powerliner didn't come out till late 70s.
The big radiator was to limit cycling the cooling fan inturn that should save lots of fuel
That was some awesome info.those are some really cool trucks.i love how the cab over and mossybroke sounds.they sound sick.👍👊
Thanks man!
That is a pretty unique 352 and it is truly amazing that is still mostly intact, as originally built. Lots of custom touches. It was, as Peterbilt's slogan used to claim, a touch of class. Today, class 8 COE's are no longer made. Back in the 70's and well into the 80's, they were the most common configuration seen on the interstates in the east due to length restrictions.
Love to meet up with you sometime . I'm in Amsterdam let me know when you will have a meet up destination
Hell yea man! The length restrictions were wild times, all sorts of different rules depending on state.
Bruce I'll be at the Ballston Spa Aths truck show Sept 17!
love what you are doing with your trucks .keep up the great work
Thanks Mike!
Love it! Thanks for taking the time to go through the build sheet and share the coolness factor(s) of your junk. Got me flipping thru my 84's build sheet looking for some of the less common things now..haha
Hell yea! Build sheets are like an encyclopedia you can always learn something from them!
@@Ol2Stroker exactly! I'm not sure how common things like the chrome steering column and chrome shifter were... But I've got a few oddities...but nothing cool like a chrome exhaust or fluorescent lights in the bunk!
I love all the chrome goodies! What else she got?
@@Ol2Stroker I don't think there's much else that was chrome or polished, but it did get weird options - 48" 5th wheel slider, rears were spec'd for pulling heavy..that sorta thing. I will admit I've not sat down and gone thru the build sheet line by line so there is probably more in there that'll have me scratching my head going... Wtf! I've got one of the Pete seats with the storage box in near perfect shape if you need one... It's blue though... LoL
@@familytraditiontransportat7951 appreciate it man maybe I'll end up needing it for a future truck ya never know.
Thanks for the video Wayne. I’m sitting up here in Boston feeling like I died and went to Hell. Can’t wait to get outta here. My first name is Wayne as well. 👍
Oh damn man what ya doin in Boston?! I friggin hate it there
@@Ol2Stroker Boston is shutting down the Orange Line of their subway system. They’ve contracted with bus companies from all over the USA to move subway passengers on charter buses. I’m here trying to provide supervision/support to our company drivers that are here. It’s an absolute cluster downtown. Gonna be that way until September 19th.
@@prevost8686 oh wow. I had no idea. That's really gotta be a mess
Yep, Wayne & that's exactly why ur wayyy 😎 cool as far as yur channel & the idea's that u portray to all yur viewers & including me !!
Thanks man! I appreciate that!
That just makes this Cabover that much cooler.
It sure does!