Revisiting Naruto's Incredible Action Animation
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The original version of this vid got copyright claimed cuz it used 15 seconds of audio from the show lmao, thankfully I had prepared a backup version without the audio...
Yeah TVTokyo is an troublesome with the Naruto franchise
Man Naruto had like every animators and their grandparents working on it😂 like you can search up name of any big animator and he must've had animated atleast a single cut in Naruto, that's how good it was
Yutaka nakamura?
@@ashoneth I Don't think he did. Also when I said every animators i didn't mean it literally but yeah you can see most of the popular animators in Naruto.
@@ashoneth he is bones employee.
@@ashoneth he worked once in one piece lol
Finally Someone Understands What actually ANIMATION is and doesn't compare it to the manga part by pausing the scenes 🥲
Exactly!!!!!!🔥
This is simply an old pierrot thing.
Key animators usually where given a ton of freedom by directors and basically did whatever they wanted, usually they go nuts and draw some crazy piece of Sakuga where movement is way above the design consistency.
Yu Yu Hakusho was absolutely nuts with its tripping visuals and all of those episodes where directed by Shinbou.
Atleast 500 million anime fans need to watch this.
people were mad at pains fight having a weird animation style, BUT they were losing their minds over luffy gear 5 vs kaido having weird animation
LIKE PICK A SIDE YOU WANT IT TO BE WEIRD OR NOT???
People are hypocrites
Pain vs Naruto fight looks goofy as hell
If you read the manga you would know it was supposed to be more serious
Gear 5th is supposed to look like that. It was goofy as shit in the manga. The same can’t be said of the Pain fight. It ruins the tone
@@spencergreen9415 gear 5 also ruined the tone, it went from a death battle to a afternoon playground with kaido being the ground
@@ydrib6086it was the same way in the manga
I've never seen Naruto but people trashing on the Pain fight made me go insane
Yamashita disrespect smh
I really love the choreography and storyboarding in how it is done, it really stands out for me. Your video was really informative, this stuff is making me know more about animation. tysm for this ❤
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also what do u think about the CGI work in Kizumonogatari trilogy coz I think it's pretty sick!!!
You're welcome man🙌🙏
Also yea I absolutely love the 3d in the kizumonogatari trilogy, I was surprised at how many 3d backgrounds were used in it, the bgs were really well used.
@@ProbablyPretentious ty for the reply :)), I appreciate it!!
@@ProbablyPretentious make a video on anime censorship...
The Pain fight looks goofy and that's why some people dislike it. And while I also think it looks kinda goofy at some moments, that's actually the charm of it. Even though Pain's face in the "My pain is greater than yours" moment is arguably getting too stretched, I think it conveys the emotions much more. Over-exaggerating motion or facial expressions is very useful to enunciate emotions more than normal.
Btw, here's another suggestion apart from the Bleach ones I gave you last time; Have you ever heard of the French cartoon called 'Wakfu' ? It's from 2008 and was animated almost entirely in Flash. But despite that, some fight scenes look amazingly good. If you ever feel like it, you could do a video on the Nox vs Grougaloragran fight from Season 1 Episode 17.
i actually think the goofy stile is perfect...we need to remember that pain was basically a puppet and it was controlled through sensory types shit so the weird movements or the lifeless aspects are perfect imo
@@antooh1167 If it was for a comedic moment, similarly to what we often saw in Nichijou, then it would have been perfect, 100%.
But imo, the overall goofiness of the animation takes the viewer away from the action, in a fight that's supposed to be significantly more serious. I don't think making the viewers laugh was the intention either, and in that regard I think the staff failed, 'cause it sure was hilarious and let's be real here, we all had at least a chuckle while watching it.
It's not the animation that is bad like most fans make fun of it for, it's the direction they took that was wildly innapropriate for the fight imo and almost turned what should have been one of the darkest moments in Naruto into a joke.
Well I disliked it because of the talk no jutsu .
@Seggs Master that was the conclusion to the fight
Its ass
Even I heard of the great animation and wanted to see the whole series. And then the filler episodes appeared
@Florian Riedmüller I’ll give it a shot when I can. But doesn’t it impact the plot?
Yeah just watch the Canon episodes, the fillers are a huge drop down in quality when Naruto has way better to offer animation wise it's a shame there are so many -_-
Animation means movement
That's what's matter to me and
I thought that pain's punch was so cool
You need to make a video about Vinland Saga season 2
Well we're only one ep in, so at some point, maybe...
@@ProbablyPretentious what are your thoughts on the 1st episode?
It looked really good, the art was very consistent and some of the cg use was very clever...
@@ProbablyPretentious I'd wait for Vinland Saga to end. These early episodes don't have much emphasis on action, and while they still look good, and the use of CGI cornfields is really well done, a lot of it is repeated frames or stills. EDIT: I love the environmental detail in Vinland S2, I think they've done a great job with the closeups.
I really wish to study choreography, since I don't understand it and can't make it look good even in my head. There's not even a SINGLE VIDEO that I can find about it! Please make a video about it if you haven't, I'd really appreciate that! This video was awesome, by the way.
My problem with the pain animation is that you can’t take pain seriously, pain is my favourite villain in the whole of naruto and one of my favourite characters, his philosophy,backstory, ecstatic, character design, symbolism and his lore itself is so satisfying to watch and emotional at times, then this fight comes, it makes pain look so goofy, many people probably laughed at this. You can’t take pain seriously during the fight. Ofc, it’s not badly animated, they can do the stretching flamboyant and chaotic animation for Naruto’s 6 tails, I don’t give a shit, that form is meant to be chaotic, unpredictable, violent and such but don’t do it for pain, makes you think what a stark contrast it would be to see Naruto’s chaotic looney toons attacks go against pains strategic, grounded and ability to equal to naruto, the contrast between the chaotic and normal would support the story as pain is obviously meant to be getting overwhelmed here.
I dont care what the rest of the fanbase says. That Pain fight looked awesome
literally, i loved that artistic liberty, go crazy !
It looked goofy as hell and completely disregards the manga's emotions
Another banger king 👑
Thanks for pointing out the different animation styles. I prefer Matsumoto's animation, but I also appreciate the other styles.
Also a question. What is difference between the production of a long running anime and a seasonal anime? And how much time is spended for an episode in a long running weekly anime.
Long running shows will obviously have less time per episode compared to a seasonal show, thus it will rely a lot more on limited animation, the amount of time required depends on the show really, but definitely less than a seasonal show. Normally multiple teams work on long running shows and the few episodes that look better than the rest are worked on for longer periods of time
@@ProbablyPretentious oh so that's why sometimes it looks better than seasonal shows lmao. For hunter x hunter 1999. Yeah sometimes it relyed on Limited Animation. (better say Quick cuts than Limited) But it looked so damn polished and sometimes the Animation looked Really amazing. Also What do you think about hxh 1999 and 2011? In Terms of direction, storyboards, storytelling, Character Designs and specially compositing. I personally perfer the 1999 version.
Long running shows have multiple teams working on their own episode, so yiu have a cycle of episodes and their creators that repeats, the one piece sakuga episode with all the famous animators comes once in like 22 episodes, and usually its pretty much the same team working on it, so that single episode had around 23 weeks for most of production and all of post production because the team that was working on the episode before, barely started on the one after. Long story short, production assistants have their own team that creates 1 episode every x weeks depending on which show ofcourse.
@@supuupi ok thanks man. So The amazing episodes in Terms of Animation has longer time and it's not weekly as people say😂
@@ProbablyPretentious that’s not always the case especially today atmosphere
Amazing video bro,
I have a few questions to ask,
First is what exactly is compositing?
Second, What is rotoscoping??
Also your Tybw video fitted algorithm pretty well, angry Bleach fans commented faster than watching video 💀
Compositing is the phase that brings all the individual components together, basically after the animation is coloured, the composite artist adds filters, digital effects blur and stuff like that
Rotoscoping is a technique where a real life footage is traced over for the animation
@@ProbablyPretentious Thanks bro 🗿
@@harman4321 are you new to this channel. After the bleach video if i can ask?
@@A1000-b9s Hm if you're asking I'm actually pretty new to anime,I have watched a decent amount,(by decent I mean atleast 100) .
I started following Manko and Him about 3 months ago,with help of Sakugabooru and both of them I have gained alot of knowledge about animation and anime industry,but only component that confuses me the most is compositing, otherwise I know all about how animation works.
Before having all of this knowledge I was a fucking idiot, giving wrong opinions.
Edit:Pls don't misunderstand me by term "new to anime" I was trying to say that I got into (how anime is made),the production process, about animators, a few months ago, anyone nowdays can watch anime like drinking water,so 100 animes isn't that big of a number 🙂
@@harman4321(sorry for my bad english) ok thanks i follow MankoMan too. He is great. Yeah i didn't know anything too Before i saw The videos in these channels. It makes you appreciate the cuts that you didn't even noticed (good Animation) it in the first look. I thought you were Completely new about the Animation production. And you saw this channel after the bleach video (that's what i thought) and yeah as you said. Toxic bleach fans are going all out, i think some of them didn't even Watched The video 💀💀
I love Yamashitas Drawing of reverse in the Tegami Bachi Reverse Opening 2.
Even tho I am not a big Naruto fan, it has some of the best fight scenes easily. Animation went places for its time. People say Bleach has best fights in big 3 but I personally disagree, Naruto easily the better one (even tho I like Bleach more overall).
Also if you have nothing to make videos about atm, try some studio Ghibli stuff if you haven't already...just an idea. Like The Tale of The Princess Kaguya or Princess Mononoke. I loved the animation in both of these films. Great video
Naruto has better animation
But bleach has way better visuals overall
Those special effects look cool as hell
2:20 Yutaka Nakamura: "What do I feel attacked here?"
actually the pain fight was actually my favourite in the series(in terms of animation) but i'm still more of an og naruto fan
also can you talk about the action animation in og dragon ball. i love it so much
great video as always. but 3:10 hiroyuki only work as the sakkan in kakashi vs obito fight afaik. naoki actually worked with kenichi fujiswa on that fight
Looking forward to Yamashita's next OP JJK this year
Do we have confirmation for that? I'm guessing it's him but I don't want to get myself too hyped up in case it's not.
@@lebyandsmartiel318 nope, im just cope. He was invited by the author himself on season 1, so it's not surprising if that happens again with season 2, he also worked with Seshimo on CSM
@@minhkhanguyen5575 Yeah I think of any people it's most likely him. Still raring to know the staff list, but that will likely drop with a second KV or the PV in Spring
Norio Matsumoto is my fav animator and every time someone analyzes his work I'm super fuckin happy
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But I want Yamashita to direct and storyboard the Aki and Denji “fight”so bad.I mean it’s so similar to the obito vs kakashi fight that i feel only he could do that justice!!
Hell na 💀
its so scary what naruto couldve been if it was seasonal....it had some of the best animators staff in the last 20 years...easily the best animated show by pierrot if we only take the eps made by pierrot and not from outsourced studios(even tho danzo vs sasuke was great even tho it was outsourced)
It goes for any of the big 3 honestly especially op imagine it with great pacing.
If it was seasonal then It would still continue lmao
Nah bleach was much better animated and it was by same studio naruto's animation was average for the most part except for bunch of episode like madara vs shinobi alliance. Naruto vs sasuke etc
spittin as usual
whats your opinion on one piece 1015 and want
Especially after they released the 20th anniversary PV a lot we’re rooting for a full remake and one of the biggest reasons was that the pain vs Naruto fight was animated “badly” 🤦♂️
Average shounen fan moment
naruto doesn't need a remake. i bet it will never look as good as the old version. naruto has one of the best action animations and great soundtracks it's better to leave as it is. maybe it need a kai version with fast pacing.
@@ashoneth dawg yes it does 💀
And no its not because of the pain fight
people are so stupid. and it's not even a matter of taste. anyone who thinks it was animated "badly" is objectively stupid. this issue has driven me nuts for almost 15 years lol
No Kakashi vs Kakuzu taijutsu praise... Feelsbadman
Thank you so much!
Can u do one piece next please.
It also doesn’t hurt to remember that Pein is a literal corpse and Naruto is a chakra construct for the majority of the goofy-looking scenes.
Corpses don’t move like that dawg 💀 they get ripped apart if they move the same as pain.
@@feister2869 fair enough but it’s technically “alive” and dead at the same time as well because it’s yahiko’s corpse used like a host or something like that by nagato for the six paths of pain. Just take the creative liberties in stride. There’s no real explanation for this other than what I’m saying honestly. Even this explanation is flawed. An actual live body probably would’ve broken apart under all that mechanical stress many times over in the series yet we don’t see that happening even as characters move close to light speed or whatever so don’t apply real world logic to it. We don’t see massive explosions occurring or anything like that around those fast moving people or even any impact from shattering the space-time continuum through hiraishin teleportation.
Im curious, what do you think of the animation of that one Boruto fight, episode 65 and the fight animation from dbs super broly if you've seen either of them. Also the movie bubble, not great story wise but the amount of cg they packed in that movie makes me curious if it's good or not. I don't mind cg, I can tell when cg animation is good but for me it's the cg characters that bug me the most. I find the way they move off putting and kinda tucked into the uncanny valley so personally while I can agree csm cg was good personally it doesn't stop it from feeling off from how much they stick out to the way they move which is why personally I prefer CGI to be relagated to mainly backgrounds, effects and other miscellaneous things that aren't to be heavily noticed.
I have not seen boruto, I've only seen clips from it, I haven't seen DB either so I can't really comment on those. I didn't really mind bubble's cgi, the movie used less character cgi than you think, vinland S1 is how bad the cg use could have looked but it didn't, so I was fine with it tbh
@@ProbablyPretentiousplease watch the boruto series so we can see more reviews about boruto too
What show is that at 6:01? Looks sick
That's the third my hero academia movie
@silver_flocks that's an exaggeration
Hot take(I think) "Madara Uchiha" episode(madara vs army) is like 6/10, when "Chibaku Tensei"(kurama vs pain) is 10/10 and I still watch it form time to time; I think that I don't feel the impact, yeah animation is great and all but it feels meh, the song choice is not working for me I think; also "The Last Battle" and "Naruto and Sasuke" are worth mentioning I think(or they don't have too much animation and just story carries all, don't know 🤷♀)
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pain is a doll. people tend to forget that. according to the story, nagato was controlling pain.
now coming to the main point
it makes sense with how pain's animation was done, he is a doll. when you put force on a doll, its normal for them to disfigure a bit. thats the same with pain.
nagato was so enraged when he was punching that ground that pain's body couldnt keep up with the chakra rods, hence its looked like it was being stretched.
in the story line, the animation actually did make sense. but lets be honest, do people stop and think before making statements about things they dont understand? nah
If that is the case
The manga should have also conveyed the same sense but the manga took the characters seriously
The adaptation is bad
People are like this frame looks bad like dude this animated don't stop
Why Naruto has really well animated fights, not all fights are like that, and there is so much of the series that is just very poor animation quality... Which is what happens when you have a weekly anime release.
Imagin Naruto vs Sasuke final battle has loony toon visuals
The Naruto vs Pain fight is animated with good quality but it completely takes away the manga's emotions
Honestly my problem with the Pain fight is that the animation style just doesn't fit in that fight. This was literally one of if not the most important moments in Naruto's life. While the chaos is very good, the inhuman anatomy taken way too far in that fight and it's just off putting, though I got used to it it's still very bothering. My problem is on surface it looks way too goofy for something that's supposed to be so important. The movement is extremely good, but the look isn't
I've seen some say that Pain's flesh moving when 4 Tails Naruto hitting him and his weird movements make sense because it's supposed make him a corpse because that's what he is... I don't really get why. Like, out of all the fights we've seen with this guy not once was this ever needed to make his fights good, so giving realistic motions to his body at that point is... Unnecessary. I don't think was done well at all, except maybe the creepy eye movements. Naruto's tailed state is still jarring, but it's at least more justifiable considering this thing has all sorts of weird body movements (fight with Orochimaru), but it's still a bit off putting because this is supposed to be terrifying and even cool because you always get hyped when you see Naruto's berserk state
Though I still prefer watching this over the Manga version of the fight. It looks good but it's rather underwhelming... Like... There isn't even that much action into it. Also I'm not sure how credible this is but apparently Kishimoto suffered backlash when that episode aired because of the massive criticism of the animation, and told Pierrot to NEVER make that animation style ever again which... I don't think we ever see the inhuman anatomy thing ever again in the series
I still like the fight. In other words, good animation but style was done at bad timing
Casuals confuse art style and animation a l lot. Art was ass; animation was phenomenal
Pp i know i am late so i am dropping a meme
Sakuga enthusiast when people say the pain fight is bad: th-cam.com/video/elBKBkA57HA/w-d-xo.html
3:41 why does bro always show this scene from Black Clover when talking about choreography 💀
There's shows with better animation that has average choreography
That particular fight really bugged me, also the way people reacted to it, as if it's some revolutionary piece of sakuga, it's a mediocre scene with no direction and horrendous digital effects, it's not just about the choreography, the animation isn't good either...
@@ProbablyPretentious well what can we say, it was made in a month. I'm no animation specialist lol
@@zawarudo6287 the episode?
@@A1000-b9s 168 if I remember correctly
@@zawarudo6287 no i mean the episode was made in a mouth? Btw do you Know What was The schedule for the last 12 episodes?
naruto animation > boruto animation shit
About Pain fight i don't agree. It looks a little too cartoonish in a bad way. They movement is really funny sometimes. This fight is well animated but looks like a looney tunes show
The pain fight is a example of so bad its actually amazing while seven deadly sins s3 is just slight up bad.
Yeah no the pain fight is bad.
The animation style is cartoonish yet the fight is intended to be serious and almost tragic. You essentially get a tonal whiplash with pain acting like a literal loony toons character while saying “your pain is greater than mine”.
It’s not about whether the animation was good, but whether the style was appropriate for the tone. Considering the backlash, it evidently wasn’t.
for me it actually amplified the emotional aspect. I saw it as naturo being so stressed that the whole world was just almost just a lucid dream.
maybe im weird idk
I also think Naruto has good dynamic animations and some of the best, but the Pain one was just too much 😭 i will agree with every compliment the animations get, but the pain one was just bad
He is not wrong. It is very good
No, it's not.
@@A1000-b9s It’s not. The animation is good but it clashes with the tone.
@@r.k845 maybe but it's very well animated
@@A1000-b9s Nobody who ever complains about the fight argues that it’s poorly animated.
Something being well animated doesn’t mean that it isn’t aesthetically displeasing to look at or unfitting. The Pain fight simply isn’t good.
am sorry if the animation is just motion and not enough details like pain fight then it no different form the stick man animation fight
(sorry for my bad english) That's literally (animation). There needs to be movements. Also Stick man Animation? That's Really a bad comparing