@FutureAzA I commented on another video of yours regarding a potential charging solution for Model 3/Y Robotaxis and I can't decide if it's genius or completely impractical. The idea was to have other Teslas at the charger get a notification of a charge request for the Robotaxi in a given spot, in exchange for supercharger credits or perhaps a raffle. I realized this could also potentially be used for handicapped Tesla owners as well. Any thoughts on this?
Super excellent exchange. Brian, if possible, please continue this duo. Jordan, if available, please continue this exchange. Factory plus product expertise is extremely valuable for the community. The knowledge translation exchange was superior in this video. Super good content. If you could continue exploring the idea of Tesla's roc for battery improvement in terms of production rate, battery energy density, innovation to be expected (silicon infusion), factory building and location, etc. It's my opinion this supply chain spoke is critical for the whole of the industry's future. Thank you, both.
Not really. You can buy a Cybertruck today for $90k or a Dodge Ram today for $70k (if you can find it without dealer improvements). One costs far less in fuel. The other has longer range. If you want to save $50k over 10 years you pick the Cybertruck. If you don't care about money you pick the Dodge Ram.
@davidbeppler3032 I disagree, the top complaints by all the reservation holders about the CT when released was less range & higher price then promised.
When Jordan speaks, 👂 He is a battery nerd, like a dog, he can't leave a bone buried! Always want to 👂 his new investigations ........specifically on the Teslas 4680. 🇨🇦😎💎🙌TESLA Stock 2556 Stocks 💪😂
The 4680 has always been tab-less. What do you mean by tab-less? The 4680 is made by rolling the internals like a swiss roll. There are two metal conductors in the roll that are positive and negative. At each end of the battery one of them is exposed to access the electricity.
@ I *thought* the continuous tab copper strip was supposed to unlock a few things. One of these things was supposed to be very high charging speeds since the single-tab style was a choke point for current ingress. As far as I can recall, the 4680 charging speeds aren’t significantly better than the 18650 or 2170 packs. I may need to go back and rewatch battery day.
@@mbur5099 Battery day was in 2020. The older style batteries had the positive and negates. At the beginning of the roll a connection was made with the outer electrical surface. In the centre of the roll a connection was made with the inner electrical surface. This is not accurate but imagine the electricity going round and round the roll to get to one of the connectors. Now imagine all the electrical surfaces are placed so one is higher and the other is lower. It is now possible to connect along the whole edge of the surfaces at top and bottom. I believe this is already in place. It is one of the advantages of the cylindrical design.
If they are going to have a chance to deliver a fully baked 4680 and deliver on all the specs from their original presentation by EOY ‘26, we have got to see signs they are increasing the silicon in the cathode.
Very informative. Question, why is Tesla not changing at the high speeds of some Chinese cars? Zeekr is at 500klw. Is it because of the pack longevity?
That is not my understanding. What I heard was that Tesla is on the brink getting dry coated catodes scaled. Like they already are for the anode. In that case we have the cleanest and potentially one of the most efficient production lines for car batteries.
I guess you never heard of Ultium batteries? GM took $2.5 billion tax payer dollars to build a battery factory back in 2002. GM announced they are canceling the Ultium project in 2024. That is a rabbit that refused to appear. But the magic of GM made that money disappear! Poof! Gone!
AWESOME TO SEE A NEW GUEST. THE THREE AMIGOS GETS TO BE A BIT MUCH. I DUNNO MAYBE LESS INTERVIEWS AND AT TIMES LEAVE IT TO YOIRSELF TO SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE NEWS KINDA LIKE THETESLASPACE DOES USING GRAPHIC SUPPORTS INSTEAD OF GUESTS. SOME SHOWS ON THE EFFICIENCY OF RENEWABLES AND HOW IN THE LONG TERM ENERGY TRANSITION UNFOLDS
Tesla's 4680 battery cells feature innovative chemistry with higher nickel content, potential silicon anodes, and a dry electrode manufacturing process aimed at increasing energy density, reducing costs, and enhancing vehicle integration. lol
BYD has huge battery lead on Tesla in volume, experience, RnD, access to raw materials (China has them), etc. Not saying Tesla can't succeed but they are underdog. Note BYD favors different form-factor "prismatic" or block shaped.
@waynerussell6401 yeah. And given how strategic LFP batteries are for the lower cost market, and how highly tariffed China products will be in the US and Europe, I'd like to see Tesla be able to produce LFP batteries themselves. Unless there's some reason to think LFP batteries won't be important in the future.
Those patents were held by Canada: U Montreal + Gouv. de Quebec + Hydro Quebec let Chinese companies use the IP because no one in N. America woul fund the research.Sad…
People who think Tesla wants to produce 100% of their own batteries for ALL of their products, ALL the time, don't understand Elon's own words "it's a hedge" to have Tesla's own battery manufacturing. It's the ability to use their own batteries IF/WHEN 3rd-party battery prices are too high. Tesla is using the OPTION to make batteries, IF, and WHEN< needed, as a "financial smoothing capacitor" in the same way an electrical circuit uses a "smoothing capacitor", to regulate power. Tesla uses this to "regulate" battery pricing, and supply, for Tesla products. 1) When the market for batteries equates to HIGH prices/LOW supply, Tesla will use more of its home-grown batteries, meaning less cost, more supply, and squeezing other car companies who have to pay high prices for 3rd-party batteries. 2) When the market for batteries equates to LOW prices, HIGH supply, Tesla will happily buy 3rd-party batteries as long as it is cheaper than home-grown batteries. Over time, as the hysteresis of market prices for 3rd-party batteries rise, and fall, Tesla has the ability to change rapidly between 3rd-Party, and Home-grown Tesla batteries, and always use the best option for rate/speed of supply, and economic, benefit. E.G. It's literally the same principle the Tesla Powerwall uses when you set the option for "make my bills cheapest", it WILL sometimes use grid power to charge the Powerwall IF it makes economic sense to consume grid power at cheap "time of day rates". E.G. Also the same principle at larger scale used in Tesla magapacks and their "Autobidder" software, buying, and selling, electricity, to make the best "bang for buck per electron". Most car companies won't have this option to use their own "economic smoothing capacitor".
Brian, If it is so easy to make alkaline batteries, why were all of the US factories replaced by Asian ones? Lead Acid automotive batteries are still made here. I think you are correct they do not require super careful manufacturing like Li-ion does. They also are heavy, so transport costs are higher than AA alkaline cells.
@ Yes, difficult to be profitable with lower yields and older tooling. Probably higher wages too, but AFAIK, Japanese wages are not cheap, even if Chinese and Korean are. Yet Japan still manufactures large quantities of batteries.
Lead is self evidently a dense element for batteries. It's used because all the salts (reacting products) of lead are insoluble (except nitrates, hence Sulphuric acid being used, not Nitric acid), which acts as an insulator and I guess regulates the charge discharge cycle.
As long as China controls all the other minerals used in lithium ion the price will be a problem How about discussing Lytens lithium sulfur batteries sourced solely in the USA Lyten is producing these already albeit in small numbers and they have purchased northvolts plant in San Leandro which needs minimal change in the production line Lithium ion plants are going bust all over Europe
JUST SOME.IDEAS FOR FUN. AS YOU KNOW I DO NOT NO. NEW LOGO, SOME GIVE AWAYS AND SOME SHWAG AND FFS GET SOMETHING OF CHARACTER IN THE BACKDROP. YOUR ONE LINERS ARE EXCELLENT RELATIVE TO PERRS AND ABOVE GOOD ANYWAYS. RUN A POLL IF YOUR CHANNEL NAME IS GOOD OR NOT. OH THERE IS MORE . ID RECKON ITS NOT SO MUCH THE LENGTH OF THE VIDEO AS IT IS THE RATIO OF OPINON TO FACT. OR FACT TO SENSATIONALISM. THIS ONE LEFT ME WANTING MORE FOR SHORE
give me an example of Canada using its resources to manipulate geopolitics to its advantage? Not everyone does this. The Chinese and Russian examples are kind of distinct.
In 1968, Canadians debated ending sales of Nickel to stop US stainless steel production (and the Viet Nam police action) Pime Minister Trudeau said, “No. Americans would just invade and socialize all our mining companies…”
It's irresponsible for a country not to do this though. It doesn't have to be evil. It can be used for better cooperation. Geopolitics can hurt your people and countries should negotiate with their assets
I heard this 4680 mass-scale dry process was conquered six months ago, which was a massive leap forward for Tesla's efficiencies. Plus, the lithium refining is getting going. These are all yet more ways Tesla is so far ahead of domestic EV manufacturers and everyone else outside of China, knowing what they need to continue to do to keep the cost of materials down and efficiencies in manufacturing to make money building EV cars while making them comparable cost-wise to comparable ICE. Between all of these efficiencies, hopefully, FSD continues to approach TRUE FSD this year, potentially getting Robotaxi going in a few cities, hopefully, a cheaper Tesla model rolls out, the Semi coming online to a larger extent, and their continued massive growth and margins in commercial mass energy intelligent storage, and getting the robots far enough to do meaningful work in their factories... 2025 could be an amazing year! It is going to be super interesting to see what changes happen under Trump. Having said that, imagine if we not only reduce credits in the EV space but ALSO oil and gas. We need both to happen to save tax payers billions as part of DOGE
GM is spending $2.5 Billion Tax dollars on a battery factory building batteries from 2005. Is that a waste of Tax Payer money? Will anyone use those Ultium batteries? Ultium is advertised as competing with Tesla but GM has canceled the Ultium project. Does GM have to pay back $2.5 billion dollars now?
Sorry I dont have anything useful to add or ask today so even though leaving comments are temporarily optional, i wont be leaving a comment. Please dont tell the evil algorithm!
SUPER SHOW WAY TO GO.. TH-cam ALGOS CRAVE VARIETY IN YOUR THUMBNAIL, TITLES, CONTENT AND IN THE ACTUAL VIDEO IMAGES. TWO TALKING HEADS ALL THE TIME MAKES IT TOUGH TO GROW YOUR SHOW. HOW TO ADDRESS ALL THIS I DONT KNOW.
Tesla vs CATL. My money is on CATL. Cars and mega packs are easy compared to precision chemistry and manufacturing. Either way competition is good but I'd never buy a 4680 cause they will always be beta products. I'll stick with mature products. 4680 will surely be recalled eventually.
Extremely SIMPLIFIED overview of lithium mining and processing issues. Lithium will catch fire / explode when exposed to 15% Oxygen by volume (our air has 20%) Many brush fires are stated by lithium embedded rocks that erode exposing lithium. Separating lithium from rock in oxygen free chemical ponds is the traditional method (cheap, polluting). Now freeze separation and Nitrogen processing (expensive, clean) are the rapid methods. Keeping lithium away from Oxygen is REQURED.
If Lithium Battery Factories were easy to build. We all would have seen the A-Team whip one together in one of their episodes :)
They did love it when a plan came together.
Exactly, pity the fool who thinks it's so easy 😊
@@jamespaul2587Pffff, I made one on my kitchen table from an idea on the back of a napkin. Made it with paper clips and chopsticks. EASY.
two of my favourite tesla commentators 😊
My vote exactly! The two best, critical, and fair analysts out there.
You just keep getting better and better, Brian. Congratulations!
You two are amazing. Thank you for quality content gentlemen!
Glad you enjoy it!
@FutureAzA I commented on another video of yours regarding a potential charging solution for Model 3/Y Robotaxis and I can't decide if it's genius or completely impractical. The idea was to have other Teslas at the charger get a notification of a charge request for the Robotaxi in a given spot, in exchange for supercharger credits or perhaps a raffle. I realized this could also potentially be used for handicapped Tesla owners as well.
Any thoughts on this?
I'm just happy the Lemon Tree is doing well ! Love the show by the way :)
Awesome seeing you guys together.
Jordan is the man!!
👋 BRIAN ,THANK JORDAN FOR THE SNIPPET ON THE RESISTANCE 😎🤠🤠🤠
I hope Tesla is able to scale up and cut costs in lithium refining. Once they're happy with yield and cost, they can build them around the world.
great job Jordon.
Thanks Brian.
Wow! Jordan .. congratulations
Thanks for all the creative content!
Thanks for this update on the Tesla battery.
Thank you!!
Thanks Brian!
Thanks for the education.
Nice and short
I try to pack in the info as density as possible in these.
That's what she said 😊
Excellent stuff!
Nice Guys. Best wishes for the trends continuing in 2025.
Good video Brian! Thx 🇨🇦
Super excellent exchange. Brian, if possible, please continue this duo. Jordan, if available, please continue this exchange. Factory plus product expertise is extremely valuable for the community. The knowledge translation exchange was superior in this video. Super good content.
If you could continue exploring the idea of Tesla's roc for battery improvement in terms of production rate, battery energy density, innovation to be expected (silicon infusion), factory building and location, etc. It's my opinion this supply chain spoke is critical for the whole of the industry's future.
Thank you, both.
Lower cost and higher energy density for more range is what the CT needs right now to increase sales.
Not really. You can buy a Cybertruck today for $90k or a Dodge Ram today for $70k (if you can find it without dealer improvements). One costs far less in fuel. The other has longer range.
If you want to save $50k over 10 years you pick the Cybertruck. If you don't care about money you pick the Dodge Ram.
@davidbeppler3032 I disagree, the top complaints by all the reservation holders about the CT when released was less range & higher price then promised.
Great thoughts and questions guys, thanks!
A first quick glance at the thumbnail of the lithium factory :: I thot I saw a PC board... Wait... we ARE in a simulation...
Good to see Bill Bailey branching out into podcasts 😂
I'm honored.
Best guest!
When Jordan speaks, 👂 He is a battery nerd, like a dog, he can't leave a bone buried! Always want to 👂 his new investigations ........specifically on the Teslas 4680. 🇨🇦😎💎🙌TESLA Stock 2556 Stocks 💪😂
What did the internal resistance of the 4680 drop to? What was it before?
Nice exclusive.
Upvoted!!!
Awesome always
Activity.
Sorry if they answer this later, but what’s the status of the ‘tabless’ design? I thought it was going to deliver VERY high charging speeds???
The 4680 has always been tab-less. What do you mean by tab-less? The 4680 is made by rolling the internals like a swiss roll. There are two metal conductors in the roll that are positive and negative. At each end of the battery one of them is exposed to access the electricity.
@ I *thought* the continuous tab copper strip was supposed to unlock a few things. One of these things was supposed to be very high charging speeds since the single-tab style was a choke point for current ingress. As far as I can recall, the 4680 charging speeds aren’t significantly better than the 18650 or 2170 packs.
I may need to go back and rewatch battery day.
@@mbur5099 Battery day was in 2020. The older style batteries had the positive and negates. At the beginning of the roll a connection was made with the outer electrical surface. In the centre of the roll a connection was made with the inner electrical surface. This is not accurate but imagine the electricity going round and round the roll to get to one of the connectors. Now imagine all the electrical surfaces are placed so one is higher and the other is lower. It is now possible to connect along the whole edge of the surfaces at top and bottom. I believe this is already in place. It is one of the advantages of the cylindrical design.
Have we heard which factory is getting the CATL LFP battery manufacturing hardware and anything about that CATL Contract?
Giga Nevada.
If they are going to have a chance to deliver a fully baked 4680 and deliver on all the specs from their original presentation by EOY ‘26, we have got to see signs they are increasing the silicon in the cathode.
Very informative. Question, why is Tesla not changing at the high speeds of some Chinese cars? Zeekr is at 500klw. Is it because of the pack longevity?
Where does the unrefined lithium come from?
A fine question. While I don't know for Corpus Christi specifically, it's available in nearly every country.
Your guest makes me feel like 4680 cells have missed their marks routinely and we are hoping Tesla is about to pull a bunny out of a hat.
That is not my understanding. What I heard was that Tesla is on the brink getting dry coated catodes scaled. Like they already are for the anode. In that case we have the cleanest and potentially one of the most efficient production lines for car batteries.
I guess you never heard of Ultium batteries? GM took $2.5 billion tax payer dollars to build a battery factory back in 2002. GM announced they are canceling the Ultium project in 2024. That is a rabbit that refused to appear. But the magic of GM made that money disappear! Poof! Gone!
Question: are we going to see a 4680 LFP or M3P battery that competes with what’s coming out of China?
Question: Do you know why insurance has not expanded into new states lately?
Blame state bureaucrats…
I thought battery voltage was purely a matter of chemistry, not tolerance. 🤔 😕
If it's manufactured outside of tolerance, the chemistry doesn't work.
AWESOME TO SEE A NEW GUEST. THE THREE AMIGOS GETS TO BE A BIT MUCH. I DUNNO MAYBE LESS INTERVIEWS AND AT TIMES LEAVE IT TO YOIRSELF TO SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE NEWS KINDA LIKE THETESLASPACE DOES USING GRAPHIC SUPPORTS INSTEAD OF GUESTS. SOME SHOWS ON THE EFFICIENCY OF RENEWABLES AND HOW IN THE LONG TERM ENERGY TRANSITION UNFOLDS
You have a valid comments, but you don’t need to deliver it with all capitals. It’s not easy to read that way. I think you know that.
@steveperreira5850 I GOT BAD EYES AND LIKE TO PRINT IN BLOCK LETTERS. SORRY ABOUT YOUR HEARING
What is the reason for the 4680 cell not reaching its energy potential as laid out on battery day?
time
Tesla's 4680 battery cells feature innovative chemistry with higher nickel content, potential silicon anodes, and a dry electrode manufacturing process aimed at increasing energy density, reducing costs, and enhancing vehicle integration. lol
I saw a projection, think it was from Forbes, with lithium battery prices dropping year after year for the next 4 or 5 years anyways.
Great
The beards are strong in these two
For sure! But I was silently screaming, comb that hair! Ha. Sexy guys, great show.
BYD has huge battery lead on Tesla in volume, experience, RnD, access to raw materials (China has them), etc. Not saying Tesla can't succeed but they are underdog.
Note BYD favors different form-factor "prismatic" or block shaped.
Makes me wonder why Tesla choose a circular vs square.
Put Jordan on the thumbnail!
I almost didn’t click. 😆
We uploaded multiple thumbnails, some of which had Jordan. TH-cam automatically tests them and the one without was apparently the winner.
Is Nano One's process responsible for the reduction of waste products in Tesla's manufacturing of cathode or is it proprietary?
Hello!
I thought I saw another channel saying the 4680 batteries they sold last year were not great. Long charge times or something
Li production in the US is strategic security issue.
How?
which Pentagon generals misunderstand- like “World Trade Center is NOT a Terrorist Target!” Fat, lazy idiots…
Lithium is very cheap now, the vertical option (the new factory) is good for TESLA (for now), will see. Anything else is speculation.
What about solid state?is Tesla heading there?
Is it coming? Does anyone actually have it?
Brian, you continue to surprise.
"Vive le resistance!" Or, in this case, Not. Thanks guys.
Will Tesla ever be able to produce LiFeP batteries in the US? Didn't certain key patents controlled by China expire last year?
YES AND NO
Tesla have a LFP line in boxes from CATL.
@waynerussell6401 yeah. And given how strategic LFP batteries are for the lower cost market, and how highly tariffed China products will be in the US and Europe, I'd like to see Tesla be able to produce LFP batteries themselves.
Unless there's some reason to think LFP batteries won't be important in the future.
Those patents were held by Canada: U Montreal + Gouv. de Quebec + Hydro Quebec let Chinese companies use the IP because no one in N. America woul fund the research.Sad…
Tesla is working on it.
Is Europe more specifically Germany or France making their own lithium plant?
No Brian. The Rock Lithium is better than the Paper Lithium. QED
Giga Berlin Batteries?😗
People who think Tesla wants to produce 100% of their own batteries for ALL of their products, ALL the time, don't understand Elon's own words "it's a hedge" to have Tesla's own battery manufacturing. It's the ability to use their own batteries IF/WHEN 3rd-party battery prices are too high. Tesla is using the OPTION to make batteries, IF, and WHEN< needed, as a "financial smoothing capacitor" in the same way an electrical circuit uses a "smoothing capacitor", to regulate power. Tesla uses this to "regulate" battery pricing, and supply, for Tesla products.
1) When the market for batteries equates to HIGH prices/LOW supply, Tesla will use more of its home-grown batteries, meaning less cost, more supply, and squeezing other car companies who have to pay high prices for 3rd-party batteries.
2) When the market for batteries equates to LOW prices, HIGH supply, Tesla will happily buy 3rd-party batteries as long as it is cheaper than home-grown batteries.
Over time, as the hysteresis of market prices for 3rd-party batteries rise, and fall, Tesla has the ability to change rapidly between 3rd-Party, and Home-grown Tesla batteries, and always use the best option for rate/speed of supply, and economic, benefit.
E.G. It's literally the same principle the Tesla Powerwall uses when you set the option for "make my bills cheapest", it WILL sometimes use grid power to charge the Powerwall IF it makes economic sense to consume grid power at cheap "time of day rates".
E.G. Also the same principle at larger scale used in Tesla magapacks and their "Autobidder" software, buying, and selling, electricity, to make the best "bang for buck per electron".
Most car companies won't have this option to use their own "economic smoothing capacitor".
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May I buy you a comb😅
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4680 LFP? 😀
When the batteries are as good or better than ice cars and the charge stations are abundant enough the car sales will go to the moon !
Brian, If it is so easy to make alkaline batteries, why were all of the US factories replaced by Asian ones?
Lead Acid automotive batteries are still made here. I think you are correct they do not require super careful manufacturing like Li-ion does. They also are heavy, so transport costs are higher than AA alkaline cells.
You think difficulty is the reason factories moved to Asia?
@ Yes, difficult to be profitable with lower yields and older tooling. Probably higher wages too, but AFAIK, Japanese wages are not cheap, even if Chinese and Korean are. Yet Japan still manufactures large quantities of batteries.
Lead is self evidently a dense element for batteries. It's used because all the salts (reacting products) of lead are insoluble (except nitrates, hence Sulphuric acid being used, not Nitric acid), which acts as an insulator and I guess regulates the charge discharge cycle.
As long as China controls all the other minerals used in lithium ion the price will be a problem
How about discussing Lytens lithium sulfur batteries sourced solely in the USA Lyten is producing these already albeit in small numbers and they have purchased northvolts plant in San Leandro which needs minimal change in the production line
Lithium ion plants are going bust all over Europe
TLF is the goat
Without a doubt.
JUST SOME.IDEAS FOR FUN. AS YOU KNOW I DO NOT NO.
NEW LOGO, SOME GIVE AWAYS AND SOME SHWAG AND FFS GET SOMETHING OF CHARACTER IN THE BACKDROP. YOUR ONE LINERS ARE EXCELLENT RELATIVE TO PERRS AND ABOVE GOOD ANYWAYS. RUN A POLL IF YOUR CHANNEL NAME IS GOOD OR NOT.
OH THERE IS MORE . ID RECKON ITS NOT SO MUCH THE LENGTH OF THE VIDEO AS IT IS THE RATIO OF OPINON TO FACT. OR FACT TO SENSATIONALISM. THIS ONE LEFT ME WANTING MORE FOR SHORE
give me an example of Canada using its resources to manipulate geopolitics to its advantage? Not everyone does this. The Chinese and Russian examples are kind of distinct.
The US was the country I was hinting at.
In 1968, Canadians debated ending sales of Nickel to stop US stainless steel production (and the Viet Nam police action) Pime Minister Trudeau said, “No. Americans would just invade and socialize all our mining companies…”
It's irresponsible for a country not to do this though. It doesn't have to be evil. It can be used for better cooperation. Geopolitics can hurt your people and countries should negotiate with their assets
I heard this 4680 mass-scale dry process was conquered six months ago, which was a massive leap forward for Tesla's efficiencies. Plus, the lithium refining is getting going. These are all yet more ways Tesla is so far ahead of domestic EV manufacturers and everyone else outside of China, knowing what they need to continue to do to keep the cost of materials down and efficiencies in manufacturing to make money building EV cars while making them comparable cost-wise to comparable ICE. Between all of these efficiencies, hopefully, FSD continues to approach TRUE FSD this year, potentially getting Robotaxi going in a few cities, hopefully, a cheaper Tesla model rolls out, the Semi coming online to a larger extent, and their continued massive growth and margins in commercial mass energy intelligent storage, and getting the robots far enough to do meaningful work in their factories... 2025 could be an amazing year!
It is going to be super interesting to see what changes happen under Trump. Having said that, imagine if we not only reduce credits in the EV space but ALSO oil and gas. We need both to happen to save tax payers billions as part of DOGE
As Elon says regarding subsidies of any kind “delete delete delete.”
@@steveperreira5850 He does say that... with the caveat subsidies are also stopped for oil and gas industry
GM is spending $2.5 Billion Tax dollars on a battery factory building batteries from 2005. Is that a waste of Tax Payer money? Will anyone use those Ultium batteries? Ultium is advertised as competing with Tesla but GM has canceled the Ultium project. Does GM have to pay back $2.5 billion dollars now?
Time for a hair cut. But, BE CAREFUL. lol
China is facing demographic crisis. it's urgent that we restore essential production in the coming few years.
Sorry I dont have anything useful to add or ask today so even though leaving comments are temporarily optional, i wont be leaving a comment. Please dont tell the evil algorithm!
Tesla is the best! Tesla is the worst! Elon is the best! Elon is a smelly fella! EVs are great! EVs are junk being forced on us! Discuss!
AN FYI 4U OIL AND GAS IS THE JUNK WEVE BEEN CHAINED TO AND FORCE FED FOR DECADES
SUPER SHOW WAY TO GO.. TH-cam ALGOS CRAVE VARIETY IN YOUR THUMBNAIL, TITLES, CONTENT AND IN THE ACTUAL VIDEO IMAGES. TWO TALKING HEADS ALL THE TIME MAKES IT TOUGH TO GROW YOUR SHOW. HOW TO ADDRESS ALL THIS I DONT KNOW.
Stay Juicy? I cringe every time I hear this
🍑
The comment I would expect from someone who struggles to stay juicy.
Tesla vs CATL. My money is on CATL. Cars and mega packs are easy compared to precision chemistry and manufacturing. Either way competition is good but I'd never buy a 4680 cause they will always be beta products. I'll stick with mature products. 4680 will surely be recalled eventually.
Cybertruck batteries screwed up,bent
Nope. Not even sure what that's supposed to mean.
Extremely SIMPLIFIED overview of lithium mining and processing issues. Lithium will catch fire / explode when exposed to 15% Oxygen by volume (our air has 20%) Many brush fires are stated by lithium embedded rocks that erode exposing lithium. Separating lithium from rock in oxygen free chemical ponds is the traditional method (cheap, polluting). Now freeze separation and Nitrogen processing (expensive, clean) are the rapid methods. Keeping lithium away from Oxygen is REQURED.