It has been a while since I've flown a VFR pattern, but we do fly them some. Hard IMC and landing straight in off an approach makes me feel safer vs flying into a non-towered airport on a clear day - even worse if it's a weekend.
Good morning. thanks for making this video. much needed after that deadly traffic pattern accident in CA. i was not sure on the midfield crosswind entry
Midfield crosswind is an acceptable entry method. All methods have flaws. Precise communications and attention to what's happening outside the cockpit can increase safety dramatically. The accident in CA is tragic. If something doesn't feel right, get out of that situation and come back and try again. There is a lot more that could have been said in the video, but it was meant to be general in nature. The advisory circular mentioned in the video is full of great information on traffic pattern procedures. Too bad advisory circulars get overlooked. That whole AC should be in the Airplane Flying Handbook in my opinion.
@@thecorporatepilotdad i agree a lot could have been done like flying an extended downwind when someone is on final. i've learned a lot by just using pilot edge . great video . Alway something to learn in aviation
@@njbpaul Are you doing real world flying, simulator flying, or both? Pilot Edge is a great training tool. I use it for live streams, and it brings a huge level of realism to MSFS.
@@thecorporatepilotdad I have 17 hours of real world flying towards my ppl. Stopped because my financial situation is not in the best place to continue. My instructor told me at the time that I need to Sim as I was struggling with muscle memory radio communication and more. 😆. He actually give me his old logic Yoke, Rudder pedals and throttle to get started. I have updated all that to newer ones. Hopefully I can get back into my training soon. It sucks and frustrating but I'm continuing studying ground and just doing everything on the Simulatir as if I was the real thing for now
@@njbpaul Muscle memory will develop best in the airplane. The muscle memory you create from the sim probably won't transfer to the actual airplane at all. Possibly try flying with a new instructor (nothing against the old one but another instructor might have a different teaching style that works better for you) and see how it goes when you do get back into the airplane. Getting money saved up so you can fly often is the best method. Lack of frequency between lessons won't help. PilotEdge will be a great help but make sure the basics and proper phraseology are being used so bad habits in phraseology and procedures are prevented. Here is a link for ATC communications - www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/aim_html/chap4_section_2.html Here is the AC from the video. Section 10 is what you want for communications - www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC_90-66B_CHG_1.pdf Best of luck and feel free to ask questions any time.
Another great and informative video. Thank you! Would you ever make a radio call to state your intention to overfly midfield at 2000agl (or 1500) for the start of the preferred pattern entry or is that information just assumed to be true by other aircraft?
In that case, the more information given where the aircraft is specifically, the better. Never assume others will be flying by the book. I did quite a few biennial flight reviews when I was a CFI. Some crazy practices and procedures were witnessed during those reviews.
For the pattern exit, at what point would you turn to the course you’re going to be flying to your destination? I imagine it’s at some point after you’ve passed pattern altitude based on what you said, but is there a specific number?
There isn’t a specific number other than the number shown in the video for departing the pattern. Procedures can vary from country to country. The video uses FAA procedures. How is your channel doing? I saw you hit 5000 subs. That’s great to see.
I’ve had to cut down on how often I post due to family obligations but i still really enjoy the process of creating videos and trying to get better in the sim. Hope all is well with you :)
@@FlightSimSchool I had no time to make videos due to family obligations over the summer but have more time now as my schedule has slowed down and kids are back in school.
No. MSA is minimum safe altitude which is used when flying IFR. MSA is used for obstacle clearance in an emergency and can be found on an instrument approach procedure.
Great video! It’s remarkable how much this type of thing gets taken for granted, even by experienced pilots not used to VFR pattern entry
It has been a while since I've flown a VFR pattern, but we do fly them some. Hard IMC and landing straight in off an approach makes me feel safer vs flying into a non-towered airport on a clear day - even worse if it's a weekend.
Thanks for this. I was always wondering the best/correct way to enter the pattern if you need to over-fly first.
Really helpful.
Good morning. thanks for making this video. much needed after that deadly traffic pattern accident in CA. i was not sure on the midfield crosswind entry
Midfield crosswind is an acceptable entry method. All methods have flaws. Precise communications and attention to what's happening outside the cockpit can increase safety dramatically. The accident in CA is tragic. If something doesn't feel right, get out of that situation and come back and try again. There is a lot more that could have been said in the video, but it was meant to be general in nature. The advisory circular mentioned in the video is full of great information on traffic pattern procedures. Too bad advisory circulars get overlooked. That whole AC should be in the Airplane Flying Handbook in my opinion.
@@thecorporatepilotdad i agree a lot could have been done like flying an extended downwind when someone is on final. i've learned a lot by just using pilot edge . great video . Alway something to learn in aviation
@@njbpaul Are you doing real world flying, simulator flying, or both? Pilot Edge is a great training tool. I use it for live streams, and it brings a huge level of realism to MSFS.
@@thecorporatepilotdad I have 17 hours of real world flying towards my ppl. Stopped because my financial situation is not in the best place to continue. My instructor told me at the time that I need to Sim as I was struggling with muscle memory radio communication and more. 😆. He actually give me his old logic Yoke, Rudder pedals and throttle to get started. I have updated all that to newer ones. Hopefully I can get back into my training soon. It sucks and frustrating but I'm continuing studying ground and just doing everything on the Simulatir as if I was the real thing for now
@@njbpaul Muscle memory will develop best in the airplane. The muscle memory you create from the sim probably won't transfer to the actual airplane at all. Possibly try flying with a new instructor (nothing against the old one but another instructor might have a different teaching style that works better for you) and see how it goes when you do get back into the airplane. Getting money saved up so you can fly often is the best method. Lack of frequency between lessons won't help. PilotEdge will be a great help but make sure the basics and proper phraseology are being used so bad habits in phraseology and procedures are prevented. Here is a link for ATC communications - www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/aim_html/chap4_section_2.html
Here is the AC from the video. Section 10 is what you want for communications - www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC_90-66B_CHG_1.pdf
Best of luck and feel free to ask questions any time.
Awesome
Make a P entry. Got it
Another great and informative video. Thank you!
Would you ever make a radio call to state your intention to overfly midfield at 2000agl (or 1500) for the start of the preferred pattern entry or is that information just assumed to be true by other aircraft?
In that case, the more information given where the aircraft is specifically, the better. Never assume others will be flying by the book. I did quite a few biennial flight reviews when I was a CFI. Some crazy practices and procedures were witnessed during those reviews.
@@thecorporatepilotdad ah that makes sense, thanks!
For the pattern exit, at what point would you turn to the course you’re going to be flying to your destination? I imagine it’s at some point after you’ve passed pattern altitude based on what you said, but is there a specific number?
There isn’t a specific number other than the number shown in the video for departing the pattern. Procedures can vary from country to country. The video uses FAA procedures. How is your channel doing? I saw you hit 5000 subs. That’s great to see.
I’ve had to cut down on how often I post due to family obligations but i still really enjoy the process of creating videos and trying to get better in the sim. Hope all is well with you :)
@@FlightSimSchool I had no time to make videos due to family obligations over the summer but have more time now as my schedule has slowed down and kids are back in school.
That’s cool, looking forward to seeing what you release next :)
VFR teardrop entry should not be labeled preferred. It will result in a mid-air one day, and then it will no longer be preferred.
FAA words, not mine.
is pattern altitudes, the same a MSA?
No. MSA is minimum safe altitude which is used when flying IFR. MSA is used for obstacle clearance in an emergency and can be found on an instrument approach procedure.