Assuming that you’re a SLE, I find it interesting that you used “not entertaining” to describe ESI. My SLE boss said something similar. He expressed shock in one of my shifts that I was “being entertaining,” which, off note, killed my vibe and I went back to being bitchy. Ironically, the night before that shift, I shared to my friend “I will be quitting because I realize I hate entertaining people more than I thought.” I was slightly aware, because when someone tells me that they’re bored, I’m mostly likely to respond “then let me go get my clown shoes,” but working as a barista made me painfully aware of this fact.
Fi base moment truly. Ngl, entertaining people would be the last thing an ESI would like to do, they'd hate it but yeah, you guys should smile a bit more or something because the RBF is strong af.
I'm ESI I think, I first typed myself as EII and IEI because I couldn't relate to stereotypes about ESI and this vid I think is pretty okay but as ESI I will explain some stuff. Explaining the bitchy part if you don't like ESI and think they are bitchy it's probably because you're not a good match or we can simply feel that vibe of hate from you ( Yes that's a thing, Fi can tell if you're a friend or foe and for us peace is important so if someone feels like trouble we nope out or not talk to them to scare them off ). I usually don't vibe with alphas I think, the ENTP kinda guys who just but into my life when I'm enjoying stuff and asking why why why why or Fe-Si people that don't take no for an answer. RBF is also because of natural tendency to not care or loose my energy for things or people that aren't worth my time (gamma mindset, things have to be useful, not only fun). Ne polr is interesting, I wouldn't call it exactly close minded but it can look like it, I require for things to be said or otherwise they don't exist so it can baffle some people because a lot of people are fine with brainstorming an answer. If you ask me to clean the kitchen I won't clean the living room too because " well couldn't you just connect the fact that by cleaning the kitchen I actually wanted you to clean every room, couldn't you tell, it's all so dirty ? " NO. Not said = I don't know. At the same time I'm very very imaginative, into fantasty, I have created my whole fictional universe I love to daydream and create stories ! PS. LIE men are sexy AF Oh yes baby help me with that Te-Ni nonsense you're good at, but yes it requires both types be mature and ready for realtionship
yes, I’m esi too and i went back and forth between being esi and eii. ( I’m esi-fi ) specifically. I wouldn’t say I’m stiff, inexpressive unless I’m really uncomfortable around you or don’t know you well. But on average I make conversation and try to be nice in conversation. And my relationships with LIEs is .. complicated 😂😂. Banter wise we get along so well though atleast. but i feel like i can’t trust them fully, or they’re wearing a ‘ mask ‘
Ah....... I thought my long term ESI friendship was going well, until they just decided to leave without explaining why; so im happy for the explination. But its rough
i can look up to my dual but will i fall in love with them? idk. maybe? seems codependent but could take the edge of things that bother me, but that doesn't mean it's love.
@@Just_Rusted aw man. good luck to me then. im infp about to hang out with an entp who i can sense can't get a read on me LOOOL. I feel bad for him, but i can't really change who i am, idk how to be more expressive. he loves my enfj sister tho cuz Fe-dom lol. it feels like everything he does is so obvious to me, but to him im strange/unpredictable. he did say he likes me to my sister so i hope that stays true. i hope he doesn't think im rude. i just don't have social skills teehee :O
can be an enfp (type in cf) a ESI, working better than IEE? i know some sx4 are obviously isfp but my preferences are not conclusively enfps in socionics. sound fcking strange but i know i am enfp but, the thing that doesnt work it in the descrptions of socionics, it dont.
@@timecollider Cognitive functions of ENFP match that of IEE. Aushras socionics has been taken from Jung, it's closely aligned, the only time this is different when you are using western socionics that is where you hear people say "well those two things have completely different definitions" , yeah well no they really don't.
Do you know what the name of the movie was? I'm interested. Also, you're definitely not wrong about ESI and LIE being a shit dual pair. I'm an LIE, and my ESI girlfriend dumped me for no reason other than "we didn't click," which is a fat load of bullshit. Probably some moral code that I broke and she won't tell me about. I honestly think I prefer SEE, they actually let me be adventurous and free.
LIE and SEE is a pair that imo works better than LIE-ESI. The movie is called A Perfect Murder. I actually liked it, it's a psychological thriller, my kind of shit
@@Just_Rusted i feel like LSE-IEE is also better than duality. they understand each other better. ESTJs are so boring. some can be chaotic and charismatic but even then it's still sorta offputting and they make you feel like a child ew or vice versa they act like the child. i mean i guess sometimes that's nice, i'm glad you can express yourself, but overall ew.
I'm polish but i actually have no idea why my accent is the way it is, it's a weird combination of things probably because i've traveled a lot and spent a lot of time talking to all kinds of different individuals.
@@francgo I agree. Plus I’m Se seeking and it doesn’t feel a chore. Biggest put off when TH-cam had limited people talking about typology, was I hate basically 99% of the ‘empower yourself’ style videos in psychology.
Yes, it's very much a possible typing, archetypally the 8 would be replaced with 1 due to Sp4s self demanding and perfectionistic tendencies but it's still possible.
ESI = "Guardian" = A Guardian ("Protector") in Keirsey = ISFJ in mbti SEI = "Mediator" = "Composer" in Keirsey. Both imply harmonizing. = ISFP in mbti. LSI (TiSe) = "Inspector" = Keirsey "Inspector" = ISTJ in mbti. SLI (SiTe) = "Craftsman" = Keirsey "Craftsman = ISTP in mbti. Mbti messed up the cognitive finction stack 4 all 4 introverted sensors.
@@yucheung5853if we switch j and p the descriptions doesn't match in case of sensors.I am mbti Isfp and I match with descriptions os SEI (ISFp)in socionics.ESI (ISFj) sounds nothing like me
You are right. This did not help me
Assuming that you’re a SLE, I find it interesting that you used “not entertaining” to describe ESI. My SLE boss said something similar. He expressed shock in one of my shifts that I was “being entertaining,” which, off note, killed my vibe and I went back to being bitchy.
Ironically, the night before that shift, I shared to my friend “I will be quitting because I realize I hate entertaining people more than I thought.”
I was slightly aware, because when someone tells me that they’re bored, I’m mostly likely to respond “then let me go get my clown shoes,” but working as a barista made me painfully aware of this fact.
Fi base moment truly.
Ngl, entertaining people would be the last thing an ESI would like to do, they'd hate it but yeah, you guys should smile a bit more or something because the RBF is strong af.
Don’r listen to him don’t smile if you don’t want to otherwise your smile wouldn’t mean what it’s supposed to mean
@@epicgamer-ur1wg thanks.
@@epicgamer-ur1wg true!
I'm ESI I think, I first typed myself as EII and IEI because I couldn't relate to stereotypes about ESI and this vid I think is pretty okay but as ESI I will explain some stuff. Explaining the bitchy part if you don't like ESI and think they are bitchy it's probably because you're not a good match or we can simply feel that vibe of hate from you ( Yes that's a thing, Fi can tell if you're a friend or foe and for us peace is important so if someone feels like trouble we nope out or not talk to them to scare them off ). I usually don't vibe with alphas I think, the ENTP kinda guys who just but into my life when I'm enjoying stuff and asking why why why why or Fe-Si people that don't take no for an answer. RBF is also because of natural tendency to not care or loose my energy for things or people that aren't worth my time (gamma mindset, things have to be useful, not only fun). Ne polr is interesting, I wouldn't call it exactly close minded but it can look like it, I require for things to be said or otherwise they don't exist so it can baffle some people because a lot of people are fine with brainstorming an answer. If you ask me to clean the kitchen I won't clean the living room too because " well couldn't you just connect the fact that by cleaning the kitchen I actually wanted you to clean every room, couldn't you tell, it's all so dirty ? " NO. Not said = I don't know. At the same time I'm very very imaginative, into fantasty, I have created my whole fictional universe I love to daydream and create stories !
PS. LIE men are sexy AF Oh yes baby help me with that Te-Ni nonsense you're good at, but yes it requires both types be mature and ready for realtionship
yes, I’m esi too and i went back and forth between being esi and eii. ( I’m esi-fi ) specifically. I wouldn’t say I’m stiff, inexpressive unless I’m really uncomfortable around you or don’t know you well. But on average I make conversation and try to be nice in conversation.
And my relationships with LIEs is .. complicated 😂😂. Banter wise we get along so well though atleast. but i feel like i can’t trust them fully, or they’re wearing a ‘ mask ‘
Ah....... I thought my long term ESI friendship was going well, until they just decided to leave without explaining why; so im happy for the explination. But its rough
"they are more bitchy. No offense" LOLOLOLOL
as a esi-fi I half relate to this 😭 I’m pretty expressive . It is said that esi-fi comes off as SEI-like
Western socionics so meh, i am doing classic socionics videos nowadays, you can be ESI and be expressive.
What is that movie A Perfect Murder? Paltrow was a poa in that.
I believe that's the movie yeah lmao
i can look up to my dual but will i fall in love with them? idk. maybe? seems codependent but could take the edge of things that bother me, but that doesn't mean it's love.
Do you think your distaste for ESI comes from them being your supervisor?
I mean that would be an easy way out tbh, i just think they're very stiff, often inexpressive and cold seeming, i don't really like that tbh.
@@Just_Rusted Yea i get that I’m just exploring my personal little theory people dislike their supervisor most; not conflictor.
@@Just_Rusted Habibi types me ESI now btw and his logic isn’t baseless 😳
@@Just_Rusted aw man. good luck to me then. im infp about to hang out with an entp who i can sense can't get a read on me LOOOL. I feel bad for him, but i can't really change who i am, idk how to be more expressive. he loves my enfj sister tho cuz Fe-dom lol. it feels like everything he does is so obvious to me, but to him im strange/unpredictable. he did say he likes me to my sister so i hope that stays true. i hope he doesn't think im rude. i just don't have social skills teehee :O
can be an enfp (type in cf) a ESI, working better than IEE? i know some sx4 are obviously isfp but my preferences are not conclusively enfps in socionics.
sound fcking strange but i know i am enfp but, the thing that doesnt work it in the descrptions of socionics, it dont.
What is CF?
@@Just_Rusted cognitive functions
@@timecollider Cognitive functions of ENFP match that of IEE.
Aushras socionics has been taken from Jung, it's closely aligned, the only time this is different when you are using western socionics that is where you hear people say "well those two things have completely different definitions" , yeah well no they really don't.
The most judgemental and hard to please type, but very pretty
Pretty in what sense?
@@Just_Rusted pretty dumb lol
why
which ESI hurt you 😹
No clue, i don't know any ESIs personally
@@Just_Rusted As an ESI, no offense but it shows lol.
Hehe
Do you know what the name of the movie was? I'm interested.
Also, you're definitely not wrong about ESI and LIE being a shit dual pair. I'm an LIE, and my ESI girlfriend dumped me for no reason other than "we didn't click," which is a fat load of bullshit. Probably some moral code that I broke and she won't tell me about.
I honestly think I prefer SEE, they actually let me be adventurous and free.
LIE and SEE is a pair that imo works better than LIE-ESI.
The movie is called A Perfect Murder. I actually liked it, it's a psychological thriller, my kind of shit
@@Just_Rusted i feel like LSE-IEE is also better than duality. they understand each other better. ESTJs are so boring. some can be chaotic and charismatic but even then it's still sorta offputting and they make you feel like a child ew or vice versa they act like the child. i mean i guess sometimes that's nice, i'm glad you can express yourself, but overall ew.
Your English is perfect, but the H sound is way too strong, like KHHHH
I wonder, where are you from, and how was your accent formed like this.
I'm polish but i actually have no idea why my accent is the way it is, it's a weird combination of things probably because i've traveled a lot and spent a lot of time talking to all kinds of different individuals.
@@Just_Rusted Thanks for the answer!
a perfect murder is beta. eie and lsi. you got fooled by mirage types.
High-key gold diggers. My mom really loves my dad's wallet and always keeping track of where every darn penny goes. So annoying and controlling.
Gammas just do be gold digging like it's their life goal.
Last sentence kind of rhymes.
What MBTI types could work with ESI + sp 1?
ISFJ
Great explanation. Although the swearing is distracting and hides your true sophistication.
I find the swearing refreshing. A very Se twist on typology, which is lacking online if you ask me and can get too formal and abstract.
@@francgo I agree. Plus I’m Se seeking and it doesn’t feel a chore. Biggest put off when TH-cam had limited people talking about typology, was I hate basically 99% of the ‘empower yourself’ style videos in psychology.
i think the swearing helps with emphasis.
outta curiosity can an esi be an isfp in mbti and a sp/sx 468? "asking for a friend"
Yes, it's very much a possible typing, archetypally the 8 would be replaced with 1 due to Sp4s self demanding and perfectionistic tendencies but it's still possible.
468 is more sx4
Damn I’m an esi
ESI I think are ur supervisors...
I don't like SEIs too
ESI = "Guardian" = A Guardian ("Protector") in Keirsey = ISFJ in mbti
SEI = "Mediator" = "Composer" in Keirsey. Both imply harmonizing. = ISFP in mbti.
LSI (TiSe) = "Inspector" = Keirsey "Inspector" = ISTJ in mbti.
SLI (SiTe) = "Craftsman" = Keirsey "Craftsman = ISTP in mbti.
Mbti messed up the cognitive finction stack 4 all 4 introverted sensors.
I thought they just switched the j/p name? The function stacks are the same
@@yucheung5853if we switch j and p the descriptions doesn't match in case of sensors.I am mbti Isfp and I match with descriptions os SEI (ISFp)in socionics.ESI (ISFj) sounds nothing like me
Vanderlai "the axe murderer" Silva = ESI. I believe emenem is one also. Honestly as an SLI ESIs are the cringiest type to me.
does my type work
ISFP
4w3
sx/sp
487
ESI-Se
r|L|uEi
EFVL(2342)
IF(S)
Choleric-Melancholic
487 tritype for ESI is very odd, 7 fix is cursed.
SX4 with 478 tritype fits EIE much better
yes