Becker Blow-Forward Revolving Shotgun
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The Becker shotgun is a very unusual blow-forward, revolving cylinder shotgun made in Germany in the 1920s (although it was originally patented in the late 1890s). Only a very small number were made - allegedly as few as 100. The serial number on this one appears to be 755, which could mean more were made, or that the company perhaps numbered several different types of guns in the same serial number block. All of the known examples are in 16 gauge, with a capacity of 5 rounds.
Thanks to Hire Arms in Johannesburg for giving me access to this very scarce gun to film for you!
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I'd like to see this shotgun in action.
Considering the rarity and condition I don't think anyone is going to shoot that.
@@JippaJ I am wondering if a replica is posible
I wouldnt care. A gun is only worth something if it shoots.
@@JippaJ guns aren't like milk, they don't go bad because they're old.
@@tierfuehrer2 I understand your point but disagree. I have antique firearms that don't fire but arent close to useless. They have historical value, and as an engineer I find the evolution of firearms interesting. Especially in regards to how they were manufactured using inferior methods compared to today
This shotgun looks so good. I hope nobody tries to put a mag in it
lol
It's a 16 gauge so.... No
Vanguard I presume?
Yo're not talking about CoD: Vanguard are you?
Just saw this in the new Call of Duty gameplay trailer. I've been a fan of Forgotten Weapons for years but there are still just so many things I've never seen before in video games, and I can always seem to find them on this channel.
having said that you reload the thing with a magazine in-game. So yeahhhh.....
@@nguyen-vuluu3150 yeah i hope that will be removed
I do nazi how this is historically accurate 😂
I want to make clear I posted this comment long before Vanguard demonstrated it's complete disregard for historical accuracy in firearms.
@@murphnturph2664 its ok, the historical inaccuracies are almost absent from the Campaign, that's what matters
Blow-forward revolving shotgun, 4 words I didn’t think I’d hear together
It's like they were randomly selecting words from a grab bag and then told Ian to go find a weapon that matched the results.
Ha! I just saw one of these on the racks and was wondering about it. How well-timed!
Well its your lucky day huh
The company speaks
Gun Jesus knows all
Will the consignee accept organs as payment? I've got a spare kidney.
As crazy as the blow-forward revolving automatically ejecting action is, I can definitely see how in the 1890s before the Auto-5 this would have been a fantastic design.
How tf is this 3 weeks old this vid isnt even a min old
@@whodatfan17 Patreon supporters get to see videos early.
@@whodatfan17 I'm a time traveler.
The striker needing to be cocked while you're reloading scares the crap out of me.
@@WalterBurton I see no "thing" about loading, just set safety, keep finger away from the trigger and point in a safe direction. What I do have touble with is carrying loaded. Might want to keep last chamber empty. I don't see any way to double check for chamber conditon or to rotate the cylinder forward without pulling the trigger to eject unfired rounds. Now that's scary!
Anyone who comes here because Call of Duty I highly recommend this channel because the history you can learn of firearms on it is amazing, just some of the ways these old firearms worked he explains so well I would’ve never known
Same
I personally think the shell ejection is the coolest part of the design
This thing looks like it came straight out of some steampunk-themed first person shooter... :)
The stamped roman numerals really add to the whole look. And it even seems reasonably practical.
Ever played vermintide?
1SaG I hate you
@@jacqirius This one's a Jakobs design hands down.
@@tehredmage was just about to set things straight, good job😉.
Now THAT, is a beautiful shotgun.
If Cobray was 1000 times classier.
Seriously, they really really missed the mark with that POS. This old 16ga is super cool.
I may have a 'Street sweeper', sadly I still gotta agree with you...
Arthur is clearly trolling.
ArthurAlcantara I get what you're saying, but 1000 x 0 = 0.
It would be called “The Defender of Her Ladyship’s Estate”.
Btw this shotgun is the one in the Vanguard campaign gameplay reveal
I finally found the revolver shotgun that was shown in Vanguard. Thank you.
I love everything about that action. They even use the weight of the barrel so it doesn't need a heavier spring.
Love how when loading it is cocked with the just loaded shells cycling in a shootable position. Just don't forget to put on the safety while loading.
Not as bad as that crazy pistol that requires you to pull the trigger to load each round.
Looks like the Scattergun from TF2, although the game's gun is a lever-action.
So *that*'s the shotgun from the COD Vanguard trailer...
Blow forward revolving 16 gauge shotgun. That's 4d chess levels of funky.
Ah guns from a time when "innovation" wasn't about making more and more AR-15s, Glocks with more slide serrations and even more 1911s
Please don't get me started with that issue. I truly hate the current state of the gun industry. A "tacticool" AR will never compete in awesomeness with the wooden furnished finishing and the steel clockwork of a M1 Garand, the PPSh, or the P38.
@@mp5k9mm1 I'd just like some new developments. We've been making the same guns for 50 years at this point with very little change. I'll admit foldable service sized pistols are kinda neat but aside from that
@@passonthestar3689 Franklin Armory really missed an opportunity by not using the Reformation to bring back 4000fps+ flechette fin stabilized saboted subcaliber projectiles.
To me honestly. And I'm most likely going to get a lot hate for saying this. But no offense the M1911 is a very overrated pistol.
@@andrewiantorno6942 You've got a point! It's a GOOD pistol, undoubtedly, and it earned its status as a historical legend, but an M1911 manufactured today is just another pistol.
That is such a cool idea, i love the metal work and the mechanical sounds of turning the cylender. I would totally buy one of these if they produced a modern version
Those mornings when you wish a particualr style had stuck for whatever slightly impractical reason. Dang, that thing is beautiful.
Glad to see this unique gun finally in a Call of Duty game.
LOL
Only 100 of these exist and like around 50+ enemies you fight have them
Sadly they made it to where you can bastardize it to the highest degree possible
This thing looks like it belongs in Bioshock.
That is the most beautiful and well-engineered use of a revolving system I've ever seen in a long gun! I can't help but wonder if there would be more revolving rifles out there if someone had tried this example in the US.
I know this is 4 yeats old but given the comment. How would you deal with the pull system part? As someone mentioned youre kinda grabbing the hot metal ya sent 5 rounds thru
thank you for making a video i posted this shotgun on the forgotten weapons sub reddit years ago glad you finally found one!
Another blow forward? And it’s a shotgun? AND it’s a revolver? We need more of these!
Very cool, a really interesting mechanism without added fiddly or faff usually asociated with novel designs
Five years later, Gun Jesus still hasn’t aged.
Very cool gun. I’m wondering why it’s the only example of the concept.
serial number "755" 7 was stamped separate from 55 so i would assume its serial number 55 with a prefix 7.. not sure what that would stand for..
My thought was perhaps the maker has a number of shotgun models and they just put them all in the same serial number range. So that it is shotgun 755 rather than any particular model. At this point it is probably impossible to find out what they were actually doing.
R D the 7 would mark.the product range aka the type. And the 55 is the number of the particularly gun itself. So it is type 7 number 55. Was common in old german small businesses.
I can tell this video is gonna blow up when cod vanguard released and gets recommended around 3 to 6 months after release
All it needed as the little clockwork man with a mallet who would raise his mallet ever time the cylinder turned and then drop it to fire the cartridge when the trigger was pulled.
That's just cuckoo.
The creativity People had in the industrial times from the mid 1850's to the early 1920's was actually amazing
Just think what world we would live in if Rockefeller didn't ruin it
I saw the gun on the Call of Duty Vanguard campaign demo and the shotgun was presented on the gameplay. When I saw the shotgun in action; I thought it was an automatic weapon, but after finding information about it - it was never used in the second world war. I stumble upon your channel and seeing the weapon for myself and - whooo boy; the people who develop the next call of duty game, didn’t get it right when the shotgun you shown was supposed to pull the tubed to reload the cylindrical gun. At this point I’m disappointed that sledgehammer games didn’t study the weapon right as it was supposed to be. The historic accuracy was flown out of the window for them at this point and now I know, and I appreciate learning about the weapon itself on the channel.
I think it’s cool they’ve added some really rare weapon in
Most people aren’t gonna notice/care about that and sledgehammer knows that, so they save time and budget not having to study and model little details like that
This is why I have been following Ian since the beginning.
3:03 Interesting how there's a cut when the ice cream man arrives.
Probably the nicest looking shotgun i have ever seen and i bet it also works brilliantly.
Really cool oddity! Interesting how many of the elements are kinda also on Walker's Striker. I wonder how reliable the system was, especially with different loadings.
the neatest thing to me is. how it uses the gases to eject the shells that's different, and thanks for the videos this is my fav firearms channel
so team fortress 2`s scatter gun is actually true to reality... ha COOL!
Never thought of that! I'd like to see this in more movies, would look cool and different.
Glad I’m not the only person who saw a resemblance.
I think scout's model is a double barrel version, though.
I knew I wasn't the only one to think that
@@Gamerguy826 that's the force-a-nature and soda popper. The stock scattergun is some mutant thing that looks like a winchester 1887 with a drum
Ian: FASCINATING piece!! Well done... thanks!!
Very unique gun and quite unusual. Would love to have seen this fired sometime. And short pronounciation tip. Gesellschaft is pronounced similarly like Gazelle and Shaft in English. But good attempt
But the a in schaft is a longer/different a sound than the English a in 'shaft' correct? (es tut mir leid, I took German as my foreign language in school but ich habe viele vergessen lol)
Guzellshoft.
@@sergeantbigmac
Richtig. The english a in shaft is spoken like the german "ä" (Who's the black private dick that's a sex machine to all the chicks?) , while the "scha" in "-schaft" is spoken like the persian title "Shah" followed by a "-ft" which is the same as the "-ft" bit in the english shaft. I hope you're well and maybe you take it up once more. It can be fun on sites like duolingo and maybe you combine it with a trip when this crap all blows over.
Absolutely beautiful workmanship. Thanks.
Found on a German soldier in COD: Vanguard... lol
Fascinating weapon Ian. Never heard of it unsurprisingly. I am impressed by it's uniqueness and clever engineering. It would seem that for it's day, it would have made an excellent hunting weapon.
Call of Duty Vanguard has some... unique weapon choices.
3:06 Ice cream
between the cut ian went out of and got him a klondike
We don't see Ian off camera, sweating profusely, wondering if he can make it outside fast enough to catch the ice cream truck.
Thanks Ian, thats a wonderful piece of work. I'd much rather see things like that produced than cookie cutter ar's.
This has to be the coolest gun mechanism i have ever seen!
That's just awesome! I want someone to come up with a revolving shotgun today.
you mean the pancor jackhammer?
@@apacito Well, no. The Pancor Jackhammer was made in the 80s...and they only ever made 3 of them. The TsKIB-SOO MTs255 however, is an actual prodution item that's still being made; no US imports however.
Many people do. Six12 premiered at Shot Show 2017 and still is not for sale to my knowledge. If and when it becomes available, the Six12 will come in a veriaty of configurations: bullpup wood stock, bullpup synthetic stock, SBS, AR rail read, and SilencerCo. There are some legal issues, but hopefully BATF will not block it being sold to the public. Six12 is a no go in NJ.
Rossi and Taurus did make the Circuit Judge revolving shotgun. .410 & 28g are out there in an 18" barrel.
I thought Rossi made the circuit judge with rifling which happens to also camber 410. I thought that made it a rifle according to NFA and would be a rifle on 4473 form. If Rossi made a circuit judge smooth bore, I would like to know.
The more I see of this shotgun the more I think its ingeniously designed
The Stalingrad Demo Playthrough from Call Of Duty: Vanguard, brought me here
Lol same 😂
"Blow-Forward Revolving Shotgun" Four simple words, when used together in that order, make you say "WTF??"
The Weapon is scheduled to be included in Call Of duty Vanguard under the generic name, Revolving Shotgun.
They called it Einhorn Revolving
this is an absolutely fascinating mechanism...
Revolving shotguns intrigue me a lot.... Can you please shoot it in range?
Frankly I am surprised there are not more revolving shotguns.
@@TodayLifeIsGoood so do I brother.
@@utfanx2 The nature of shotgun shells, their size, and simply better multi-shot systems impedes innovation... Id love to know what Gov regulation youre referring to.
Watch the video on the Streetsweeper, your intrigue will be... fixed.
XD
@@sergeantbigmac most countries that make revolving shotguns are banned from exporting firearms into the USA, such as russia
Please do a shooting demo of this! It looks well enough capable of being used to this day!
Had to come here after spotting one in the new call of duty vanguard trailer. The abuse of gun designs and attachments in that trailer made me want to puke.
So many cool old guns that we have never heard of.
When those roman numerals came up I got a 40k vibe ;)
Warhammer fantasy
@@Hubert_Cumberdale_ Britania or Dwarves I could totaly see that.
me too, but I do agree any warhammer would do well with this as an enchanted or runed Hellfire or plasma gun. As a matter of fact I'm going to add this to my inquisitors loadout.
I’ve always been fascinated by this, glad to see it’s been given the Forgotten Weapons treatment.
Very fascinating and super cool firearm.
this is where i go to find obscure and interesting guns that i would not be able to find elsewhere
Didn't Becker make a revolving cannon along similar principles as this for aircraft armament ?
That was advanced primer ignition blowback; the cartridge was initiated while it was still moving forward inside the chamber. It was developed in the Oerlikon 20mm of WW2 fame.
This is the same Becker?
There was a Becker cannon in WW1, a 20mm autocannon. It was single barrel and fed via magazines, and I’m not sure it’s the same Becker, but it might be.
Becker is a pretty common name, hailing from the middle ages meaning, well, baker? I dont know the english word for it but the guy working the bakery, its still 'bäcker' in german which in turn is a lastname although i think becker is more common, presumably an older spelling
@@nicksande6880
It can also mean someone who lived close to a "Bach", meaning a small river. And in the british english there is still "beck" which means the same as creek in american english. The german name "Beckenbauer" is fitting for a backing farmer.
that's such a neat mechanism!! those are my favourite!
So I just got myself one of these beauts and I'm looking to mod it. Does anyone know where I can find the detachable mags for it? I'm also trying to add a foregrip and a holographic sight but I don't see any picatinny rails.
Idk ask the japanese soldier you bought it from
This is the coolest gun i have ever seen
Me 4:00 am after getting off watch: ok time for sleep
*GUN JESUS UPLOADS NEW VIDEO*
Me 4:00am: sleep can wait
jeeze that thing is cool! I'm sure its not a fantastic running gun but that action is so neat
Interesting the new Call of Duty showcased this gun in the new WW2 game
Just came from there.
It even does a countdown, sweet!
I love how you say ''Geselschaft''
it's wrong in every way but hey! German is hard!
Even we native speakers sometimes have problems with the grammer.
@@SaposJoint i mean grammer, like in grammer school.
He has consistently pronounced Mannlicher wrong in every video too.
@@eliasschroder9967 Never did go to grammer school, is it an offshoot of grammar school?
So you are having problems with Kelsey Grammer, right? I hear he can be a handful...
Oh yeah? Well, say squirrel.
That is a really awesome and clever design. Thanks, Ian!
Its an interesting design but if you had a misfire would you be forced to grab a hot barrel to cycle it?
I love how easily you reload the thing, and then to recock it you simply grab and pull on the metal pipe that you just sent 5 rounds of shotgun shots trough... Maybe that's why the production numbers were low?
Ásgeir Ásgeirsson well I’m guessing for the purposes it was intended for, probably weren’t expected to dump all the rounds rapidly. Though I agree having like a piece of wood would’ve been a decent idea
Though it isn't relevant to the current video I was wondering if you could suggest any good reference material on the Thompson, the sheriff's department I work at as one and I believe it is a 1928A1. It has a compensator, a finned barrel, and a US government stamp. We also have an M79 grenade launcher and a Colt Lightning revolver with it's original holster that belonged to our first Sheriff.
He did a series on the Thompson three months ago. That'd probably be helpfull.
Here's the first video: th-cam.com/video/QN1uUfMCQ0Y/w-d-xo.html
That's how I got as close as I did. The gun still has the cuts for a drum as well.
Gotta love pre-war German shotguns man. This, the Walther toggle lock, the Sauer drilling..... Such unique flairs. And then you get the Geha.
Here before the Call of Duty Vanguard comments...
That is mechanically ultra intriguing! I want one!
I thought this gun wasn't real.
X2
Me too
Thank you , Ian .
It's a shame it is so rare , would be very interested to see this in action ,
(Mind you if i was the owner i wouldn't fire it , )
This is awesome!!!!! Someone should remake these, i would buy one
That is a fascinating mechanical design. Here's hoping that on a trip to one of the auction houses you can find one in good condition to actually take apart.
I dont want to nitpick but Deutsche Jagdwaffengesellschaft-Düsseldorf translates to German Huntingcommunity-Düsseldorf but in german the word gesellschaft can have two meanings.
The first would be community, the other would be corporation or business.
Sorry for the high standard german nitpicking. Its a german thing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Es macht uns nicht gerade beliebt so auf richtiger Aussprache rumzuhacken. Machen andere Nationen glaub ich nicht. Andererseits sind deutsche in der forgotten weapons Community Recht beliebt also verzeiht man uns das wahrscheinlich
@@authenticbitterleben7434 Ist ja auch teilweise zur aufklärung, sind ja historische Ereignisse und die sollten ja accurat sein.
Lenox in dem Falle wäre allerdings -corporation richtig wenn es ist Produktionsgesellschaft aka Fabrik und kein Freizeitverein.
Corporation is the right word because it is a hunting rifle fabrication facility and not a hunting rifle club.
@@Seelenschmiede German: Ich weiß ich habe es wortwörtlich übersetzt und dann danach ja die anderen synonyme genannt, weil ich ja nicht wusste ob es eine Produktionsgesellschaft oder ein Freizeitverein ist.
Außerdem wäre Fabrik falsch denn sonst hätten sie es so genannt, was zu der Zeit sehr üblich war und immer noch so ist, in dem Fall wäre es eher ein kleiner Workshop bzw. Büchsenmacher, denn wenn es wirklich Massenproduktion wäre würde auch Fabrik dort stehen.
English: I know, I translated it word for word because I didnt know if its a company or a community. The term factory is wrong because if it was one they would use the term, because that was very common in that time and still is, it was more likely that it was a small workshop or gunsmith, because if it was massproduction then it would say factory on the gun.
Jagdwaffengesellschaft would actually be "hunting arms company" which means they making hunting weapons.
This is a very beautiful gun.
1:50 My guess is that's the calibre of the weapon.
It's 2 1/2 European 16 ga. I own one.
What a cool shotgun, it seems like a pretty clever design! For a revolving long arm it appears like the design would be pretty good about containg the gas, I wonder what it's like in person. I also can't get over how nice that manual ejector looks, it's classy.
They Rhythm Thief’d this gun in Vanguard.
At first glance I read the title as Pecker Blow Revolving Shotgun. I was scared, but intrigued.
Do you speeek japaneeza?
I've always been so intrigued by firearms and their mechanisms and it's awesome how many unique concepts there are out there such as these - wonder if you could take it out onto the range to see it in action?
Ancient streetsweeper shotgun
The right term would be vintage
@@rodeanalfanteforcadela7645 whatever's
This shotgun has my mind going in circles.
we all know why we're here
This is just crazy. What a mechanism!
How would one unload this thing without firing it ? Can't see anything that looks like a latch that would release the magazine "clockwork spring" (for lack of a better term) and thus allowing the user to release said spring, rotate the individual chambers without discharging the gun and then use the manual "revolver style" ejector rod.
You do what Ian did and manually pull the barrel forward to index the cylinder and then use the ejection rod the same as the last shell.
@@shawnr771 But how do you then get to the next chamber? You can't pull the barrel again, because it's already forward. To release it, you must first pull the trigger, firing the ready chamber.
@@KatharaKhan Permission to expend all remaining ammo in last target.
You got me on that one.
Ian did not fire each time, he just pulled the barrel.
@@williestyle35 No, he did. To pull the barrel, it must be in the "rear" position. And to get it there once it has been pulled forward once, you must pull the trigger, because it locks forward once pulled.
Kinda weird how Becker shotgun is depicted in Vanguard as common shotgun despite only 100 were produced, just like Kar98k in PUBG.
This gun looks straight out of a steampunk novel!
Love this gun!! World war hero's game just added this gun to the game........so kool!! I wish Ian would give more info as far as the background of the gun as far as the inventor, the makers, etc. I wonder how much it ended up selling for. What I amazing patent for the 1890s!! 😳😲😮😯👀
What normal people see: Cursed shotgun
What Vanguard players see: ahhh, the most op camping shotgun
Another video enjoyed while drinking a java from my Forgotten Weapons coffee cup. Love all the examples of unobtanium you manage to find.