This does fit with my psc big bore box. But it does take a little modifying nothing crazy. Anyone who knows how to work on things and build things can easily do it. I'll try to explain what i did. To start with the psc box i have is the one they sell for a Cherokee their big bore box it has 4 mounting holes instead of 3. My Cherokee is heavily modified i strengthened the entire unibody much more than standard stiffeners. So i did plating inside and out on the unibody so my mounting for the box could be differently spaced than yours but when i installed the plating and box i spaced the box out just as far as it needed to be and no more i wanted to keep it close to the frame because i knew I'd be running this brace i had to grind a little pocket in my plating as well to get the box closer to the frame, you'll notice the unibody already has a little divet to accommodate the steering box but thay goes away when you add inside plating and most companies that make those kits space the box out further but i used my own spacers welded to the plating and everything to get it as tight as possible. All of this explanation on how i mounted my psc box may not apply to you and you dont need to use the 4th mounting hole it bolts up like stock using 3 but there are kits to convert the Cherokee to the 4 bolt like TNT makes a kit. I made my own setup to use the 4th bolt. . I was still surprised that there was enough wiggle room to fit side to side. My first thing I ran into and really the main thing was the clamp hits the webbing part of the steering box casting so you can't bolt it down all the way. How i remedied this was with a carbide burr on a die grinder i shaved the casting slightly on the box i didn't take much just a little maybe a 1/16th then i also had to shave the clamp halves in the right locations but again it didn't take much the most i took was 1/8th but mostly had to knock down edges. Also the clamp half on the front side of the brace needed some shaved off the end above the bolt where it was contacting one of the mounting bosses on the steering box. Then the little mounting ear on the main brace for the clamp on the driver side needed the corner shaved off because it was contacting the same mounting boss. Other than that everything fit surprisingly well with how modified this jeep is. I had to mock it up and remove it like 8 or 10 times because I was removing very little material from the clamp edges and the steering box webbing. My conclusion is that it fits just fine with the psc big bore box but i also took time to mount my box as close to the frame as possible and i am nearly at the far side of the slots in the brace but there was enough room i was thinking i may have to open up the slots more but i didn't have to its a really well thought out kit because these Cherokee unibodys can move a lot especially with abuse. I wasn't scared off by modifying it i was expecting to possibly have to do a lot more and it was really simple i barely removed any material its mostly knocking down edges its a very tight fit. I also had my pitman arm removed and that helped a little mocking it up i would suggest removing the pitman arm if you have to do it like i did with the psc box because I would have the clamp halves together when installing for mock up and moving up and down. Its possible without removing the pitman arm but i found it easier. Then my last thing I ran into which wasn't much was you need an extra deep 1-1/2" socket, i have a lot of big sockets and only one i had barely fit but that one was so beefy it didn't fit through the hole of the bearing bracket. 38mm sockets fit too none of my multiple deep sockets of the right size fit so i ended up removing the bearing bracket and using a big box end wrench then I had to finagle that one bolt back in. Also a 3/8 12 point ratcheting wrench easily fits on that hard to get at bolt. You can order an extra deep 1-1/2 socket on Amazon for about 30 dollars thats what I'm going to do so i have it. If you put extra deep in your search you'll find a couple options. But anyways the brace does fit a psc big bore box on a Cherokee. It takes maybe 3 hours and some test fitting to complete while taking my time. I think its very important to have something like this as well as a track bar brace. The front unibody crossmember under the radiator can actually buckle and then you get all sorts of movement up front. You can also find plating to weld onto that crossmember like i did but this steering brace and a track bar brace are adequate. Its especially important if your doing heavy winching and you don't have the most rigid bumper.
Just installed mine on a 98 2wd to 4wd conversion. Everything fit beautifully and anyone with a half dozen tools and an impact can install it in under 1.5 hours (much less time if you're not on your back in the driveway like I was). This video is great and perfectly summarizes how the install will go, and it all should go just like he shows here. My only knock is I wish Andy had shown how the sway bar brackets fit, as most of us plebs don't have antirock and that was the only piece I was unsure of. When you look at the sway bar drop brackets you will notice that one end of the bracket has a crescent shaped cut to it rather than the straight edge that's on all the other edges of the bracket. That crescent cut part should point toward the rear of the jeep and allows clearance for the third bolt that holds the main brace to the un. You'll know what I'm talking about when you're under there. Just know that if you put the crescent cut end anywhere else, that third bolt won't clear the bracket, and instead will get stuck on it and not suck all the way down against the main brace segment.
I just installed the brace today - over all it was pretty easy -some lessons I learned. 1 The bolts I got to hold the brace to the frame were 16mm in mine not 17mm 2. The 1 1/2' deep socket that is used to tighten down the sleeve nut has to be really deep, the 1 1/2" deep socket I was able to buy at pep boys (only place around me that had one) did not work. An adjustable wrench will not fit so I used some pliers that I angled up through the bottom opening and cranked on it as hard as I could. This was the most vexing part of the install, figuring out how to tighten the sleeve nut. 3. If you have an aftermarket steering box spacer that came with new bolts (mine did) you might have to back out the back steering box bolt so you can get the 3/4" socket in to tighten the steering box clamp nut closest to the drivers side.. 4. When tightening down the clamp that connects the steering box to the brace use a 3/4" wrench to hold the bolt in place while you tighten the nut. on the bolt closest to the drivers side you will have to feed the open end of the wrench through the slot in the front between the brace and the core support to hold the bolt vertically stop it from spinning while you tighten it down 5. A small 3/8 ratchet wrench works well to tighten down the one back bolt for the sector shaft mount that you can't get to with a 3/8 socket like the other three
Did it occur to you that you could start by putting the sleeve nut on first before anything else thus allowing you to do it with a wrench instead of the impossible to find socket? I did mine with a pipe wrench and steel tube for torque.
I installed mine with the psc big bore box it took a little modifying slightly but it fits. I wrote a long comment explaining my install it should be one of the newest on this video. Let me know if you have any questions. I believe psc makes 2 boxes the big bore which is the large one with the problems then a smaller one that I think is more like stock size wise.
I need to replace my gearbox so now's the time to install this steering brace and gearbox brace. Does anyone have recommendations for gearboxes. Seems like the rebuilt ones from Redhead and Bluetop have too many negative reviews and AGR went down the tubes. PCS is still making great boxes but that's $1100 that is hard to justify since I'm not building that level of hard core Jeep.
@@TR-qr9hs I just sucked it up and got the PSC steering kit. There's a good video of the components and install on the Allpro Offroad channel in an XJ.
This video could be better...maybe multiple camera angles that shows the install...otherwise this video doesn’t help that much. But all trial and error when mine is installed. I’ll be posting the video on my install
@@jeepsnjuice9407 You literally watched a 20 minute video that showed the full installation process and it, "didn't help much" Even if I drove a Prius I would be more concerned about your mechanical ability than the validity of my opinion
I must've bought the last of 1st gen. Pain in the butt to remove. Soon after I received it, I see a gen 2 version was produced. Any way to modify the 1st gen brace, to make removal easier? I've got to replace my steering box but keep adding fluid because I don't want to go through the headache of removal.
This does fit with my psc big bore box. But it does take a little modifying nothing crazy. Anyone who knows how to work on things and build things can easily do it. I'll try to explain what i did. To start with the psc box i have is the one they sell for a Cherokee their big bore box it has 4 mounting holes instead of 3. My Cherokee is heavily modified i strengthened the entire unibody much more than standard stiffeners. So i did plating inside and out on the unibody so my mounting for the box could be differently spaced than yours but when i installed the plating and box i spaced the box out just as far as it needed to be and no more i wanted to keep it close to the frame because i knew I'd be running this brace i had to grind a little pocket in my plating as well to get the box closer to the frame, you'll notice the unibody already has a little divet to accommodate the steering box but thay goes away when you add inside plating and most companies that make those kits space the box out further but i used my own spacers welded to the plating and everything to get it as tight as possible. All of this explanation on how i mounted my psc box may not apply to you and you dont need to use the 4th mounting hole it bolts up like stock using 3 but there are kits to convert the Cherokee to the 4 bolt like TNT makes a kit. I made my own setup to use the 4th bolt.
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I was still surprised that there was enough wiggle room to fit side to side. My first thing I ran into and really the main thing was the clamp hits the webbing part of the steering box casting so you can't bolt it down all the way. How i remedied this was with a carbide burr on a die grinder i shaved the casting slightly on the box i didn't take much just a little maybe a 1/16th then i also had to shave the clamp halves in the right locations but again it didn't take much the most i took was 1/8th but mostly had to knock down edges. Also the clamp half on the front side of the brace needed some shaved off the end above the bolt where it was contacting one of the mounting bosses on the steering box. Then the little mounting ear on the main brace for the clamp on the driver side needed the corner shaved off because it was contacting the same mounting boss. Other than that everything fit surprisingly well with how modified this jeep is. I had to mock it up and remove it like 8 or 10 times because I was removing very little material from the clamp edges and the steering box webbing.
My conclusion is that it fits just fine with the psc big bore box but i also took time to mount my box as close to the frame as possible and i am nearly at the far side of the slots in the brace but there was enough room i was thinking i may have to open up the slots more but i didn't have to its a really well thought out kit because these Cherokee unibodys can move a lot especially with abuse.
I wasn't scared off by modifying it i was expecting to possibly have to do a lot more and it was really simple i barely removed any material its mostly knocking down edges its a very tight fit.
I also had my pitman arm removed and that helped a little mocking it up i would suggest removing the pitman arm if you have to do it like i did with the psc box because I would have the clamp halves together when installing for mock up and moving up and down. Its possible without removing the pitman arm but i found it easier.
Then my last thing I ran into which wasn't much was you need an extra deep 1-1/2" socket, i have a lot of big sockets and only one i had barely fit but that one was so beefy it didn't fit through the hole of the bearing bracket. 38mm sockets fit too none of my multiple deep sockets of the right size fit so i ended up removing the bearing bracket and using a big box end wrench then I had to finagle that one bolt back in. Also a 3/8 12 point ratcheting wrench easily fits on that hard to get at bolt.
You can order an extra deep 1-1/2 socket on Amazon for about 30 dollars thats what I'm going to do so i have it. If you put extra deep in your search you'll find a couple options.
But anyways the brace does fit a psc big bore box on a Cherokee. It takes maybe 3 hours and some test fitting to complete while taking my time.
I think its very important to have something like this as well as a track bar brace. The front unibody crossmember under the radiator can actually buckle and then you get all sorts of movement up front. You can also find plating to weld onto that crossmember like i did but this steering brace and a track bar brace are adequate. Its especially important if your doing heavy winching and you don't have the most rigid bumper.
I was able to try 2 different places deep drive sockets. Both are too shallow to work.
What did you end of doing?
@@tomzane1606 take the bearing bracket off then put the pitman arm nut on with a wrench.
Thank you
For a clear install video
Your products are amazing
Just installed mine on a 98 2wd to 4wd conversion. Everything fit beautifully and anyone with a half dozen tools and an impact can install it in under 1.5 hours (much less time if you're not on your back in the driveway like I was). This video is great and perfectly summarizes how the install will go, and it all should go just like he shows here. My only knock is I wish Andy had shown how the sway bar brackets fit, as most of us plebs don't have antirock and that was the only piece I was unsure of. When you look at the sway bar drop brackets you will notice that one end of the bracket has a crescent shaped cut to it rather than the straight edge that's on all the other edges of the bracket. That crescent cut part should point toward the rear of the jeep and allows clearance for the third bolt that holds the main brace to the un. You'll know what I'm talking about when you're under there. Just know that if you put the crescent cut end anywhere else, that third bolt won't clear the bracket, and instead will get stuck on it and not suck all the way down against the main brace segment.
I just installed the brace today - over all it was pretty easy -some lessons I learned.
1 The bolts I got to hold the brace to the frame were 16mm in mine not 17mm
2. The 1 1/2' deep socket that is used to tighten down the sleeve nut has to be really deep, the 1 1/2" deep socket I was able to buy at pep boys (only place around me that had one) did not work. An adjustable wrench will not fit so I used some pliers that I angled up through the bottom opening and cranked on it as hard as I could. This was the most vexing part of the install, figuring out how to tighten the sleeve nut.
3. If you have an aftermarket steering box spacer that came with new bolts (mine did) you might have to back out the back steering box bolt so you can get the 3/4" socket in to tighten the steering box clamp nut closest to the drivers side..
4. When tightening down the clamp that connects the steering box to the brace use a 3/4" wrench to hold the bolt in place while you tighten the nut. on the bolt closest to the drivers side you will have to feed the open end of the wrench through the slot in the front between the brace and the core support to hold the bolt vertically stop it from spinning while you tighten it down
5. A small 3/8 ratchet wrench works well to tighten down the one back bolt for the sector shaft mount that you can't get to with a 3/8 socket like the other three
Did it occur to you that you could start by putting the sleeve nut on first before anything else thus allowing you to do it with a wrench instead of the impossible to find socket? I did mine with a pipe wrench and steel tube for torque.
Andy mentioned it might work with the PSC steering box. Does anyone know one way or the other?
I installed mine with the psc big bore box it took a little modifying slightly but it fits. I wrote a long comment explaining my install it should be one of the newest on this video. Let me know if you have any questions.
I believe psc makes 2 boxes the big bore which is the large one with the problems then a smaller one that I think is more like stock size wise.
I need to replace my gearbox so now's the time to install this steering brace and gearbox brace. Does anyone have recommendations for gearboxes. Seems like the rebuilt ones from Redhead and Bluetop have too many negative reviews and AGR went down the tubes. PCS is still making great boxes but that's $1100 that is hard to justify since I'm not building that level of hard core Jeep.
What u end up getting
@@TR-qr9hs I just sucked it up and got the PSC steering kit. There's a good video of the components and install on the Allpro Offroad channel in an XJ.
@@tonyking313 i kust Google it 2500 for kit.
@@tonyking313 im Jerry Macgyver rig mine aint that kind of money.
Nice rims who makes them???
What all do have on the front end to make that work
This thing looks sick
What anti rock sway are you saying? Lol
What about the sway bar if I have a drop down kit can I use the stock swap bar end links or do I need different ones ?
The volume is a bit low but this is a great tutorial. thank you.
Sweet. Gonna install mine soon. Thanks for the video.
What size are the bolts and nuts that go through the brackets that clamp the steering box?
Do I need to remove the pitman arm to install this?
nope
Link to it??
Are you guys going to do the package with the steering box again?
ironman4x4fab.com/products/xj-steering-box-brace found it
Oh that's without the Sector Shaft Support
This video could be better...maybe multiple camera angles that shows the install...otherwise this video doesn’t help that much. But all trial and error when mine is installed. I’ll be posting the video on my install
If this video doesn't help you might want to reconsider working on your Jeep
Says the guy who drives a Prius 😂
@@jeepsnjuice9407 You literally watched a 20 minute video that showed the full installation process and it, "didn't help much" Even if I drove a Prius I would be more concerned about your mechanical ability than the validity of my opinion
The amount of concern ur showing concerns me.
I second. Multiple camera angles would help. My brace is interfering with my radiator hose. Lot more than the light contact they said on the website.
I must've bought the last of 1st gen. Pain in the butt to remove. Soon after I received it, I see a gen 2 version was produced.
Any way to modify the 1st gen brace, to make removal easier? I've got to replace my steering box but keep adding fluid because I don't want to go through the headache of removal.
does this work with the durango box?
He said it does in the video, and showed how it does with the adjustment.
Nice engineering.
Couldn't see anything
Nice job dirty Andy...
Your hair is out of control.
I watched this video because JCR didn't include instructions with the kit I bought.