I like Godwyn, for him befriending Fortissax after their battle. While many things in the Lands Between were solved with war and conflict, he solved one with kindness instead of violence.
Maybe it was a manipulation, a fake friendship, like when radagon fell in love with renala, and in that case godwyn isnt that great. Seeing him called the golden and loved by the two fingers, i dont think he is that great of a person
Godwyn was perfect, he was literally the only Demi-god without any insinuations of immorality. Which is exactly why he was the first to perish. A classic FromSoft tactic.
What other fromsoft character did they murder at the first insinuation of immortality? Dark Souls is very clearly immortality is a curse, Bloodborne doesn't really have immortal characters outside the nightmares which isn't a positive fate at all to have, and Sekiro is very anti immortality just as a premise. How is it a classic fromsoft? Like them featuring immortality as a theme doesn't mean that it's classic Fromsoft to have insinuations of immortality as a running theme, they're quite clear that it's a destructive path to walk down no insinuation needed.
Miquella is written like Griffith from Berserk, he has good intentions but there is hidden agenda in him, especially with St Trina alter ego, basically he is bewitching people to "love him" he is using others for his own purposes (some belive he is actually using Mohg to get rid of his empyrian heritage and youth curse)
@@Lolpy. i mean it is the Outer gods Doing that everything went to shit faster, just look what Rot did when Malenia blossomed over Radahn, it literally led the land to become corrupt to a point of no return
What i truly appreciate about Godwyn is he was the only one that truly loved Malenia and Miquella. The statue them in his embrace was truly tearing. After hos death they were left alone and Miquella trying to oppose the outer god's influence to heal his sister 😢 Godwyn is a chad.
@@TheRealJohnux been a while since I played the game, but if I'm not mistaken; it would be near the grace site at the haligtree of the horse boss lady. Vatiivedya also made a video about them.
I suppose in the same way ranni made a doll that her soul could interject into to keep on living, someone could in theory move their own soul into godwyns body if they kill their own
He seems like a pretty chill dude and as we know chill dudes don't get to have a good ending in grrm's stories and these games. I wonder what that says about miquella.
I still feel like Miquella will turn out to be evil. He seems to be heavily inspired by Berserk (like most of Elden Ring), particularly the main villain, Griffith. Griffith is a inhumanly beautiful, endlessly charming, text-book "hero of the ages", adored by everyone - just like Miquella - but he's actually a vile, VILE monster behind the scenes... But the only surviving witness of Griffith's unspeakable capacity for evil is Berserk's protagonist, Guts. So, I think Miquella will be the same in that he's probably done diabolical, unspeakable things, but the stories of his evil simply haven't spread, as he leaves no trace (or living witnesses) in his wake. At least until the Tarnished arrives!
Yea I wonder why Ranni had him killed he seemed awesome based off this lil bit of backstory, and yea that’s a sick armor it was the second armor I went straight to go get it asap, had to go get right after I got the rivet armor and the bear pelt that goes with it🔥
Considering that godwyn was up there with being among the strongest of the demigods. I'm surprised that the black knives were able to kill him. It looks like they jumped him at knight and he might have killed a few of them. Godwyn had no armor or weapons on him from the looks of it but probably could still use incantations.
Throughout Godwyn’s whole life death was just a thing of the past, an impossible myth, once the rune of death was sealed away. He couldn’t possibly have imagined that he would get killed so it is understandable that he likely didn’t fight back as hard as he could’ve
they might do godwyn dirty like miquella tho , we have this idea of him that he was a chill dude , but then we find out he was/is the most fked up dude ever.
I really wish it was possible to bring Godwyn back to life and help Miquella do it. It would've been so cool. But I don't think Fromsoft will ever make an ER sequel that would allow that.
I bought Elden Ring at Launch after hearing how hard these types of games are. I played it and kept dying, not knowing where and what to do. i then put it down after being unable to beat Rennala. Fast forward a year(ish) later after i have now just beatin Margot the Omen in the capital, I can now safely say this is by far the best and most rewarding game I have ever played. I'm so glad I picked it back up 😂❤
Part of him, you can see bits of him all around The Lands Between. Even at the bottom of Stormveil Keep. He's all over but at the Roots of the Erdtree is where you'll find most of him.
there's a theory that his body is in one spot where they buried him, but because his body is glitching out from the Errd Tree trying to bring something back to life that doesn't have a soul, his undead influence is being spreading where ever the roots touch, leading to his malformed face popping up in random spots
I still think that the only and main reason why Ranni even targetted Godwyn in the first place was because of how capabable he was in stopping her plan all his accomplishments proves that dude was probably the strongest out of all Radagon, marikas children excepct Messmer that's another rabbit hole.
I wish they would have done a lot more with Godwyn like have him be a character we could have interacted with instead of Fia I think they could have done something really cool with that and maybe at the end of his quest you could have fought him optionally
It wouldn’t make sense for the player to interact with Godwyn in his current state. The whole point is that his soul is destroyed. All we see of him is decaying body, there is nothing left of him inside. That being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if FromSoft made a way for us to revive him and fight him as a boss in the DLC. Like u first fight him as he is now, a giant, creepy mermaid mutant. And then 2nd, he comes back as his former self as Godwyn the Golden.
@@lordbuttlington9523 ya I was saying instead of killing him in the intro have him be a more important character to interact with, I guess I should have been more specific I like your idea of the boss fight it fits perfectly with a fromsoft boss and I think the dlc might take place in miqela (yes it’s spelled wrong lol) dream so maybe we could see some sort of dream version of godwyn but I highly doubt it
The Shattering, which is arguably the cruc around with the whole plot moves, was instigated by Godwyn's death, and it seems important that that event happened a long while before the Tarnished steps onto the scene.
@@LucidStrike They could have had someone else be killed to cause the shattering, but I get it Godwyn was killed that’s that, probably not gonna see him unless we do somehow in the dlc but I doubt it anyway I was just saying it would have been cool if they didn’t kill him and we got to fight him or have some sort of quest with him maybe the assassination attempt failed and he could have been some half god half dead thing that sought revenge on ranni idk something like that, that’s all I was trying to say lol
Lansseax halberd incantation and maybe vykes dragonlightning lore entry. It's "insinuated" at least. Depends on how wholesomely you interpret "loving vyke the most".
@@TheRealJohnux I've always kinda been annoyed at the interpretation that they were lovers, especially when Vyke's own lore insinuates that he loved his Finger Maiden instead (alongside game files referring to the Finger Maiden corpse found near his invasion spot as "Vyke's Finger Maiden). Yeah, Lansseax's lore says "of all the knights, she loved him most." But when you remember that she literally played the role of a priestess for the cult and likely interacted with many, many different knights, it makes much more sense for it to be platonic.
Godwyn, Radahn and Miquella were the best of demi-gods. Godwyn as the king, Radahn as commander of kingdom's army and Miquella as ther governor would be a dream for any kingdom.
Imagine Beating a Death Blight Dragon Becoming friends with the dragon Opening a new type of incantation for Leyndell Only to get killed by a blue witch fuck
I think her plan was to kill the person most able to continue the Golden Order amongst the demigods since her plan seems to be against it and the Outer Will
there's some comment out there explaining that godwyn was chosen basically just because he was the most convenient to kill, so it was nothing personal, ranni just had her own motives. it's possible ranni didn't even choose godwyn herself, the assassination was just carried out with the goal of killing any demigod.
The Black Knifes assassins were given the dagger made from death. Which was one of the two made from death and can only be used once. They were going to kill Marika. Unfortunately Godwyn was clapping his moms cheeks and was chilling in her room while she was bathing. The Black knifes assassins thought he was her and jumped him only to realize that it was him afterwards. Marika enters the room and screams. Alerting the guards who came and drove them away. The Black Knife would then try to steal the Death dagger that Ranni had to try to kill Marika. We see this during one of the trailers where Ranni is being chased.
Mohg was stuck in a concentration camp and erased from the history books, as typical for the Golden Order and the things they don’t tolerate. Ranni probably didn’t know he existed. Also, Godwyn was the poster child for Marika’s fascist and xenophobic theocracy so he’d be a prime target.
The Lands Between was already a messed up place, especially the Golden Order. They literally have a concentration camp underneath their capital city for the undesirables, and they established themselves through the near genocide of the Fire Giants.
@@MissMaiaaliterally everything is fked up in Elden Ring. The Hornsent and their Crucible obsesion, Marika' traumatized maniac mindset, the way becoming a god equal with throwing away your moral compass and stuff and don't get me started on Miquella's incestous gay ahh plan💀 never gonna have happy world when GRRM make the background and settings🤑
I dont know if lore stops this theory or not, but i believe Godwyn was the next in line to become ethier elden lord or replace his mother as keeper of the elden ring. He was the literal golden child of the family, he was the first born, a great leader and even better warrior. He would have continued the golden order for another age under the two fingers guidance. Ranni didnt want this cause she wanted to bring the age of stars and remove all outer gods influance on the world, so she had to remove Godwyn somehow. This ritual using the rune of death was probably the only way to really kill him since he was probably one of the strongest demi gods to live
I don't think the Elden Ring is inherited through bloodlines in the way you are thinking. Any of the Emperayons were technically candidates to become gods and Marika didn't care which of her children did what so long as they made something of themselves. Godwyn was great for sure but that didn't make him any more qualified than Miquella or Malenia. The issue is that the Golden Order was never perfect and no one understood it as a whole completely not even Marika. While what Ranni did was cruel, i believe she was the only child of Radagon(was is still Marika) who thought to do something for herself instead of following some path set before her. Rykard was corrupted, Radahn followed the Golden Order, Miquella was trying to cure Malenia and couldn't with thr Golden Order, Malenia only wanted to protect Miquella, none of the omen cursed kids could even walk the surface and all were either fighting for their parents attention or subject to the will of outer gods. Personally I think she was the only one who cared to let the world exist on its own
The more these things pop up the more I realize you and most people don’t actually know the lore behind the night of Black knives. Ranni never sent the Black Knives after Godwyn. She did what she had to in order to restore the natural order of the world which MARIKA interrupted. The black knives chose Godwyn on their own, and Ranni sacrificed herself both so she wouldn’t be a slave to the Greater Will, and so the rest of the pawns in the lands between(literally everyone you guys seem to like more than Ranni for some laughable reason 😂) could live freely. Godwyn didn’t even have a real destiny since he wasn’t an Empyrean.
@@drpepp. The game itself and lore videos probably. I know that what he's saying is at least partially true because I recognize the freeing people's fate from the outer will part. In fact I can add that the reason she needs radan dead is because he halts the stars which stops fate from happening or some weird mess. Her whole deal is separation from the outer gods. In the new dlc you learn that the fingers actually aren't even getting their information from the outer gods anyway which is why Marika is misguided and you also learn why Marika is kind of a monster to other races, she goes through some hell of her own.
I don't like her at all. She's done horrible things just like the other demigods but oh, don't get me started as she was the one who instigated the shattering.
@@Envoxityi feel like even if she never did anything someone else would have especially since the revear a space parasite as I've seen a few lore channels do research on the two fingers an after they die they turn to wood an looking closely at the tree,it looks like the golden part is growing out if the tree like a fungus
@@Envoxity maybe read Japanese translations. Lore was kinda butchered in English version, which is a big reason why people don't get Ranni. She was actually the one trying to fight for the freedom of people in lands between. Before her, all the souls were trapped in the lands between, just to play a puppet show for Elden beast/erdtree. Trapped for all eternity, to play the part in that show. Anyone who didn't toe the line like the fire giants were eradicated. Ranni was fighting for the only good ending freedom from the rule of the outer god.
@@Envoxity Causes of war. The Golden Order took her mother to madness, and she acted back. It ended up destroying the Lands Between, but I don't think she cared much
I don't think that's the whole story, when we see rykard in the opening cinematic, we see the God devouring snake eating someone with blonde hair. Which wouldn't be rykard as we see a picture of him with red hair in volcano manor. So it's my belief that rykard was in charge of body disposal for rani and fed godwyn to the snake. But something didn't take (probably the deathroot) and the snake started to godwyn out of its body, most likely having had a face like current rykard. And it is a suspicion of mine that rykard and godrick had some dealings with one of godricks grafted scions protecting the way to the volcano manor, and thus godrick willingly hid the skin of godwyn not knowing it would destroy his castle over time. Then, the shedded body was buried by the urd tree roots, hoping to kill the urd tree, and then possibly growing in size with corpse bloat, fortisax entered his dream to try and save him. Thus, this is my attempted explanation as to why godwyn looks like a snakey fish thing.
I'm still holding out hope that we'll get SOME sort of boss battle against him in the future. I was hoping for some Miquella DLC, and look what's on the horizon :P
I think what's interesting is that the Great will may have favored Ranni more. Pure speculation of circumstances but when you look at actions god of order had strange favoritism. Godwyn existed yet made Marika create more lineages. We can also see it in how they're treated: •Godwyn: the golden child •Godrick: mostly ignored and allotted luxurious nobility •mogh & morgott: banished from public eye •Rhykard: given authority over Inquisition. •Radahn: General of renown •Miquella: allowed luxurious freedom yet strangely ignored (likely his charm curse) •Malenia: praised warrior but left seperated (likely for her rot) •BUT Ranni: Princess of the allied domain yet given a warden/ hound guard and restricted to a point of extremes? This implies that while Godwyn was obvious head emperyean that Ranni may have had more raw potential. This maybe evident by her procession of a moon. Ngl dark golden moon ranni sounds pretty badass
Godwyns Story might not end here. Depending on Miquellas Plans he may come back. And I would also be interested in Rannis reasoning to murder Godwyn in particular.
I like Godwyn, for him befriending Fortissax after their battle. While many things in the Lands Between were solved with war and conflict, he solved one with kindness instead of violence.
It is a powerful but simple story, makes what happened to him an unmistakeable tragedy
Maybe it was a manipulation, a fake friendship, like when radagon fell in love with renala, and in that case godwyn isnt that great. Seeing him called the golden and loved by the two fingers, i dont think he is that great of a person
@@samy57913any Lore accurate?
@@samy57913 nah godwyn is just a muscular peace lover
@@samy57913the fingers arent evil, they're just proponents of an ordered world
Godwyn was perfect, he was literally the only Demi-god without any insinuations of immorality. Which is exactly why he was the first to perish. A classic FromSoft tactic.
What other fromsoft character did they murder at the first insinuation of immortality? Dark Souls is very clearly immortality is a curse, Bloodborne doesn't really have immortal characters outside the nightmares which isn't a positive fate at all to have, and Sekiro is very anti immortality just as a premise. How is it a classic fromsoft? Like them featuring immortality as a theme doesn't mean that it's classic Fromsoft to have insinuations of immortality as a running theme, they're quite clear that it's a destructive path to walk down no insinuation needed.
@@philbuttler3427 he said inmorality, not inmortality
@@philbuttler3427you misread that lol
What about miquella
Miquella is written like Griffith from Berserk, he has good intentions but there is hidden agenda in him, especially with St Trina alter ego, basically he is bewitching people to "love him" he is using others for his own purposes (some belive he is actually using Mohg to get rid of his empyrian heritage and youth curse)
"If there wasn't for Ranni, he would still be arround" Elden Ring in a nutshell .
If there wasnt Ranni, the whole shit in the game would not have happened.
@@BarsusDraco nah I don't think, Marika would have more likely do some crazy stuff anyways. It just happened earlier.
More like: if the Outer gods didnt exist, none of this would have happened
@@vittoriosavian9964 That’s sorta a cop out answer. That’s like saying “We could’ve avoided World War 2 if humans didn’t exist”
@@Lolpy. i mean it is the Outer gods Doing that everything went to shit faster, just look what Rot did when Malenia blossomed over Radahn, it literally led the land to become corrupt to a point of no return
Vyke just casually pulling a donkey from Shrek
why does this have so many likes...
Nah bro you mad😂😂
@@user-bk1hk2gt8s what?
DEEPEST LORE.
Did they actually have sex? I dont remember reading anything about that..
@@methanoI it's implied a bit more in the Japanese version of the game
R.I.P Godwyn, but he gave us the best incantations
death lightning🤣🤣
Funny head guy
@@mrcopo804 bro there’s other lightning spells
What i truly appreciate about Godwyn is he was the only one that truly loved Malenia and Miquella. The statue them in his embrace was truly tearing. After hos death they were left alone and Miquella trying to oppose the outer god's influence to heal his sister 😢
Godwyn is a chad.
Where is that Statue you are refering to?
@@TheRealJohnux been a while since I played the game, but if I'm not mistaken; it would be near the grace site at the haligtree of the horse boss lady.
Vatiivedya also made a video about them.
@@statattat6190 thanks.
@@TheRealJohnux you're welcome 😁
The person embracing the twins in that statue looks like a woman. I could be wrong but I doubt it's godwynn
My first playthrough I was scared to death of that damn Merman thing! I was sure that big bastard was gonna come to life!
He still might
I suppose in the same way ranni made a doll that her soul could interject into to keep on living, someone could in theory move their own soul into godwyns body if they kill their own
Just wait till the eclipse. Since you defeated Radahn, the stars resume their movment (sun is a star btw)
@@geminislayer3013 wait what mermaid thing ?
@@geminislayer3013also what did fortisax do?
The thing about Godwyn is, if he didn't die, he'd be alive.
makes sense
seems legit
NO WAY
thanks for the explanation
I agree
He seems like a pretty chill dude and as we know chill dudes don't get to have a good ending in grrm's stories and these games. I wonder what that says about miquella.
I think Miquella's story is gonna ties in with the DLC and whatever repulsive act Mesmer pulled in that Shadow dimension
I still feel like Miquella will turn out to be evil. He seems to be heavily inspired by Berserk (like most of Elden Ring), particularly the main villain, Griffith. Griffith is a inhumanly beautiful, endlessly charming, text-book "hero of the ages", adored by everyone - just like Miquella - but he's actually a vile, VILE monster behind the scenes... But the only surviving witness of Griffith's unspeakable capacity for evil is Berserk's protagonist, Guts. So, I think Miquella will be the same in that he's probably done diabolical, unspeakable things, but the stories of his evil simply haven't spread, as he leaves no trace (or living witnesses) in his wake. At least until the Tarnished arrives!
@@rockstargamer97Griffith is a good person, it was only a light hearted prank
Well, turns out he became evil... poor mohg, he deserves an apology from the community 🙏
@@rockstargamer97bro called it lmao😂
Vyke casually destroying the dragossy 🗿🍷
I don’t even want to know…
@@ahumanbeing8371she polished his war spear.
@@ahumanbeing8371 He plunged his great sword into her cave of treasures.
@@ahumanbeing8371he used his halberd on her gaping dragen. Oh, wait, wrong game.
💀
Godwyn and Morgott might be the only demigods that have some decency in them.
@@supacopper4790 Mohg too. He beat the allegations lol.
@@Retarded_Ape well no, the guy was still a crazy blood cultist who worshipped a evil outer god
Mohg did nothing wrong
Don’t forget Radahn
Whoa, I never realized that Fortisaxx and Lanseaxx were brother and sister
It was sort of implied with how simillar their names sounded though.
@@Nek-oski all dragon names sound like that.
@@insertedgynamehereAdula, Smarag, Borealis, Greyoll (and technically Makar and Theodorix are Wyrms but still belong to Dragon race)
@@OneMadCat none are ancient dragons.
@@OneMadCat and makar and theodorix are a human and troll respectively.
I rode a dragon
I tamed a dragon
Vyke: ...
@@RommelStorm I mean... he did rode and tamed the dragon
the dragon rode me - vyke
he did both
Vyke: I'm a donkey, from very far far away land across this world
MIZYAZAKI DROP ANOTHER DLC WHERE WE CAN SEE EVERYONE IN THEIR PRIME AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
that would be interesting cuz fighting PCR in the dlc isnt even fighting prime radahn, just a controlled one
@@psfmEnvixinite imagine prime placidusax... a boy can dream
"If it wasn't for ranni godwyn would still be around"
That is usually how murder works, yes.
Vyke showed lanseaxx his war spear and his war spear
Yes, dual madness spears are very effective
Godwyn deserved better. I wear the Death Knight dlc armor in his name
based
Yea I wonder why Ranni had him killed he seemed awesome based off this lil bit of backstory, and yea that’s a sick armor it was the second armor I went straight to go get it asap, had to go get right after I got the rivet armor and the bear pelt that goes with it🔥
"i did it!"
"vyke, we said SLAY the DRAGON"
"oh."
Considering that godwyn was up there with being among the strongest of the demigods. I'm surprised that the black knives were able to kill him. It looks like they jumped him at knight and he might have killed a few of them. Godwyn had no armor or weapons on him from the looks of it but probably could still use incantations.
Throughout Godwyn’s whole life death was just a thing of the past, an impossible myth, once the rune of death was sealed away. He couldn’t possibly have imagined that he would get killed so it is understandable that he likely didn’t fight back as hard as he could’ve
With you I started to understand the lore more. Thanks!
Glad to hear it!
they might do godwyn dirty like miquella tho , we have this idea of him that he was a chill dude , but then we find out he was/is the most fked up dude ever.
2 griffiths in one game would be crazy
I really wish it was possible to bring Godwyn back to life and help Miquella do it. It would've been so cool. But I don't think Fromsoft will ever make an ER sequel that would allow that.
DLC will have Miquella in it and one of his goals is to provide Godwyn a proper death so who knows?
The more lore I learn, the more the frenzied flame ending makes sense
I bought Elden Ring at Launch after hearing how hard these types of games are. I played it and kept dying, not knowing where and what to do. i then put it down after being unable to beat Rennala. Fast forward a year(ish) later after i have now just beatin Margot the Omen in the capital, I can now safely say this is by far the best and most rewarding game I have ever played. I'm so glad I picked it back up 😂❤
Rennala is the easiest boss out of all the Rune Bearers…
@@lmenzol godrick eas8ier
And yet everyone simps for this damn Smurf
Ikr 💀
Cool sword, best ending (Excluding Frenzy Flame) and a honeymoon on the Moon?
Totally
@@geraldsanchez1934honeymoon with a doll??
@risaYilA Hey man, some times you gotta take whatever you can get 🤣
Soldiers: Beware of up.
Vyke: Lover ahead...
Ahhh Ranni “Troublemaker Smurf Doll” 🤣
WAIIIIT SO THAT THING AT THE DEEP ROOTS IS GODWYN??
Part of him, you can see bits of him all around The Lands Between. Even at the bottom of Stormveil Keep. He's all over but at the Roots of the Erdtree is where you'll find most of him.
Kinda. It's his body but after it has been changed and altered by death.
there's a theory that his body is in one spot where they buried him, but because his body is glitching out from the Errd Tree trying to bring something back to life that doesn't have a soul, his undead influence is being spreading where ever the roots touch, leading to his malformed face popping up in random spots
Those who live in death exist not because of Godwyn, but because Marika that denied the death rune from the elden ring
Marika's sanity shattered along with the killing of Godwyn because he was her only perfect child
I still think that the only and main reason why Ranni even targetted Godwyn in the first place was because of how capabable he was in stopping her plan all his accomplishments proves that dude was probably the strongest out of all Radagon, marikas children excepct Messmer that's another rabbit hole.
I wish they would have done a lot more with Godwyn like have him be a character we could have interacted with instead of Fia I think they could have done something really cool with that and maybe at the end of his quest you could have fought him optionally
It wouldn’t make sense for the player to interact with Godwyn in his current state. The whole point is that his soul is destroyed. All we see of him is decaying body, there is nothing left of him inside.
That being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if FromSoft made a way for us to revive him and fight him as a boss in the DLC.
Like u first fight him as he is now, a giant, creepy mermaid mutant. And then 2nd, he comes back as his former self as Godwyn the Golden.
@@lordbuttlington9523 ya I was saying instead of killing him in the intro have him be a more important character to interact with, I guess I should have been more specific I like your idea of the boss fight it fits perfectly with a fromsoft boss and I think the dlc might take place in miqela (yes it’s spelled wrong lol) dream so maybe we could see some sort of dream version of godwyn but I highly doubt it
The Shattering, which is arguably the cruc around with the whole plot moves, was instigated by Godwyn's death, and it seems important that that event happened a long while before the Tarnished steps onto the scene.
@@LucidStrike They could have had someone else be killed to cause the shattering, but I get it Godwyn was killed that’s that, probably not gonna see him unless we do somehow in the dlc but I doubt it anyway I was just saying it would have been cool if they didn’t kill him and we got to fight him or have some sort of quest with him maybe the assassination attempt failed and he could have been some half god half dead thing that sought revenge on ranni idk something like that, that’s all I was trying to say lol
If Godwyn never died then the Elen Ring would of never been shattered
We need godwyn as a boss as a corrupted version of himself. And have more deathblight weapons and incantations
Ngl it would be awesome to go deeper into the lore of each endings through DLC.
and yall simping for that pass-around doll
cuz it's better tp be free of the golden order and bring freedom to the world. Open your eyes. It's not simping, try an actual argument
Bro was too perfect to live
And his very friend tries fighting the death but only ended up corrupting himself losing his mind
Justice for Godwyn.
You know, I was wondering where Fromsoft's classic "That's actually a boy" went in base Elden Ring.
Technically through what was learned from SoTE, Messmer and Melina are older children of Marika
The greater will when it sees a decent dude:
She having some fun with vyke😏
…Wait, Vyke banged a dragon?! Where was this lore and how did I miss it in my entire 3 playthroughs of this game?!
Lansseax halberd incantation and maybe vykes dragonlightning lore entry. It's "insinuated" at least. Depends on how wholesomely you interpret "loving vyke the most".
@@TheRealJohnux I've always kinda been annoyed at the interpretation that they were lovers, especially when Vyke's own lore insinuates that he loved his Finger Maiden instead (alongside game files referring to the Finger Maiden corpse found near his invasion spot as "Vyke's Finger Maiden). Yeah, Lansseax's lore says "of all the knights, she loved him most." But when you remember that she literally played the role of a priestess for the cult and likely interacted with many, many different knights, it makes much more sense for it to be platonic.
Godwyn the Goated. Rest in Gold respectable demi god
I'm pissed we never get to meet healthy non-fish Godwyn. He seemed very cool.
I love lightning in this game, thank you Godwyn
you’re telling me vyke? the insane madman, managed to smash a dragon?
Godwyn, Radahn and Miquella were the best of demi-gods. Godwyn as the king, Radahn as commander of kingdom's army and Miquella as ther governor would be a dream for any kingdom.
Note, Morgott didn't fucking do anything. He's okay in my book.
We will see what Miquella is really up to and like in the dlc and probably learn a lot more about godwyn… we‘ll see
This comment aged well with Miquella
this comment aged, unlike miquella
@@roywempor8395 miquella aged like milk outside, too long in the sun holy
There better be a second dlc focusing on Godwyn or I'm gonna cry
Godwyn deserved better
And then Ranni is only dead by her flesh. Her soul is still alive
Imagine
Beating a Death Blight Dragon
Becoming friends with the dragon
Opening a new type of incantation for Leyndell
Only to get killed by a blue witch fuck
He is like Balder, his death start everything
Cool video love the humour
He actually sounds like a pretty cool guy to be around
Out of all the demi gods ranni could have sacrificed she picked the nicest one? Why not pick Mohg? I never side with her for the ending
same, i refuse to simp for the filthy brother killer
I think her plan was to kill the person most able to continue the Golden Order amongst the demigods since her plan seems to be against it and the Outer Will
there's some comment out there explaining that godwyn was chosen basically just because he was the most convenient to kill, so it was nothing personal, ranni just had her own motives. it's possible ranni didn't even choose godwyn herself, the assassination was just carried out with the goal of killing any demigod.
The Black Knifes assassins were given the dagger made from death. Which was one of the two made from death and can only be used once. They were going to kill Marika. Unfortunately Godwyn was clapping his moms cheeks and was chilling in her room while she was bathing. The Black knifes assassins thought he was her and jumped him only to realize that it was him afterwards. Marika enters the room and screams. Alerting the guards who came and drove them away. The Black Knife would then try to steal the Death dagger that Ranni had to try to kill Marika. We see this during one of the trailers where Ranni is being chased.
Mohg was stuck in a concentration camp and erased from the history books, as typical for the Golden Order and the things they don’t tolerate. Ranni probably didn’t know he existed. Also, Godwyn was the poster child for Marika’s fascist and xenophobic theocracy so he’d be a prime target.
Thank you bro I haven’t seen anyone else say anything about this 👍
Ranni was basically the cause of the hole shit-show in the lands between
And that is why in my second playthrough I decidet not to become her servant and follow her questline
@@Joha733her quest is a big part of the game for the first time but now i dont really like ranni
The foundations of the Golden Order were messed up too according to the DLC. Every new age has to have some f'ed up stuff happen.
The Lands Between was already a messed up place, especially the Golden Order. They literally have a concentration camp underneath their capital city for the undesirables, and they established themselves through the near genocide of the Fire Giants.
@@Mario-SunshineGalaxy64 My poor boys Morgott and Mohg
now we know that placidusax created dragon cult
The more I learn elden ring lore the more I realize this is all Ranni's fault. She literally caused 90% of this crap we have to fight through 🙃
@@MiiMagus93 …. Until you play the dlc and realize Ranni is only a raindrop in a sea of drama. Lol
@@MissMaiaa don't spoil it fam I'm tryna get there eventually 🤧 just doing every ending first
@@MissMaiaaliterally everything is fked up in Elden Ring. The Hornsent and their Crucible obsesion, Marika' traumatized maniac mindset, the way becoming a god equal with throwing away your moral compass and stuff and don't get me started on Miquella's incestous gay ahh plan💀 never gonna have happy world when GRRM make the background and settings🤑
Vyke doing the I trained a dragon meme
There is NO REASON to help those who live in death. Screw Fia, it takes more than hugs to convince me to change the whole world for worse
"his body was very mich alive just inoperatable" Idk man, that sounds like dead to me.
So that’s the creepy thing at the end of every catacomb
So they buried Godwyn alive essentially? lol
It took me like a year to figure out that giant fish creature was Godwyn, I spent days just googling but no one would tell me.
They both really said “GG”
Godwyn and Radahn did nothing wrong and suffered the worst fates for it
This is why my character shit on ranni quest every run. Godwyn ftw.
Fortisaax also tried to help Miquella to give Godwyn a true death, their plan however failed and Fortisaax die and became a Lichdragon :(
Cant wait for the DLC to reveal (hopefully) If Ranni is the bad guy pretending or if she just did what was necessary.
I dont know if lore stops this theory or not, but i believe Godwyn was the next in line to become ethier elden lord or replace his mother as keeper of the elden ring. He was the literal golden child of the family, he was the first born, a great leader and even better warrior. He would have continued the golden order for another age under the two fingers guidance. Ranni didnt want this cause she wanted to bring the age of stars and remove all outer gods influance on the world, so she had to remove Godwyn somehow. This ritual using the rune of death was probably the only way to really kill him since he was probably one of the strongest demi gods to live
I don't think the Elden Ring is inherited through bloodlines in the way you are thinking. Any of the Emperayons were technically candidates to become gods and Marika didn't care which of her children did what so long as they made something of themselves. Godwyn was great for sure but that didn't make him any more qualified than Miquella or Malenia. The issue is that the Golden Order was never perfect and no one understood it as a whole completely not even Marika. While what Ranni did was cruel, i believe she was the only child of Radagon(was is still Marika) who thought to do something for herself instead of following some path set before her. Rykard was corrupted, Radahn followed the Golden Order, Miquella was trying to cure Malenia and couldn't with thr Golden Order, Malenia only wanted to protect Miquella, none of the omen cursed kids could even walk the surface and all were either fighting for their parents attention or subject to the will of outer gods. Personally I think she was the only one who cared to let the world exist on its own
So Godwyn followed the teachings of Sensei Wu.
“The best way to defeat your enemy is to make them your friend.”
The more these things pop up the more I realize you and most people don’t actually know the lore behind the night of Black knives. Ranni never sent the Black Knives after Godwyn. She did what she had to in order to restore the natural order of the world which MARIKA interrupted. The black knives chose Godwyn on their own, and Ranni sacrificed herself both so she wouldn’t be a slave to the Greater Will, and so the rest of the pawns in the lands between(literally everyone you guys seem to like more than Ranni for some laughable reason 😂) could live freely. Godwyn didn’t even have a real destiny since he wasn’t an Empyrean.
Any Source?
@@drpepp. The game itself and lore videos probably. I know that what he's saying is at least partially true because I recognize the freeing people's fate from the outer will part. In fact I can add that the reason she needs radan dead is because he halts the stars which stops fate from happening or some weird mess. Her whole deal is separation from the outer gods. In the new dlc you learn that the fingers actually aren't even getting their information from the outer gods anyway which is why Marika is misguided and you also learn why Marika is kind of a monster to other races, she goes through some hell of her own.
Undeath Right Matter
- Fia
Godwyn doesn't lose
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So does fontisaxx guard the body of his friend, because if so thats really cool
This is why Ranni is a certified number 1 op
I don't like her at all. She's done horrible things just like the other demigods but oh, don't get me started as she was the one who instigated the shattering.
@@Envoxityi feel like even if she never did anything someone else would have especially since the revear a space parasite as I've seen a few lore channels do research on the two fingers an after they die they turn to wood an looking closely at the tree,it looks like the golden part is growing out if the tree like a fungus
@@Envoxity maybe read Japanese translations. Lore was kinda butchered in English version, which is a big reason why people don't get Ranni. She was actually the one trying to fight for the freedom of people in lands between. Before her, all the souls were trapped in the lands between, just to play a puppet show for Elden beast/erdtree. Trapped for all eternity, to play the part in that show. Anyone who didn't toe the line like the fire giants were eradicated. Ranni was fighting for the only good ending freedom from the rule of the outer god.
@@Envoxity
Causes of war. The Golden Order took her mother to madness, and she acted back. It ended up destroying the Lands Between, but I don't think she cared much
@@Envoxity no she didn't. Marika did
brotha give us long form content you got a chill voice
I don't think that's the whole story, when we see rykard in the opening cinematic, we see the God devouring snake eating someone with blonde hair. Which wouldn't be rykard as we see a picture of him with red hair in volcano manor.
So it's my belief that rykard was in charge of body disposal for rani and fed godwyn to the snake. But something didn't take (probably the deathroot) and the snake started to godwyn out of its body, most likely having had a face like current rykard.
And it is a suspicion of mine that rykard and godrick had some dealings with one of godricks grafted scions protecting the way to the volcano manor, and thus godrick willingly hid the skin of godwyn not knowing it would destroy his castle over time.
Then, the shedded body was buried by the urd tree roots, hoping to kill the urd tree, and then possibly growing in size with corpse bloat, fortisax entered his dream to try and save him.
Thus, this is my attempted explanation as to why godwyn looks like a snakey fish thing.
I'm still holding out hope that we'll get SOME sort of boss battle against him in the future. I was hoping for some Miquella DLC, and look what's on the horizon :P
Ok, that closeup of his eyw goes insanely hard
Now how does someone who fought dragons gets killed by a couple of assassins?
I think what's interesting is that the Great will may have favored Ranni more.
Pure speculation of circumstances but when you look at actions god of order had strange favoritism. Godwyn existed yet made Marika create more lineages.
We can also see it in how they're treated:
•Godwyn: the golden child
•Godrick: mostly ignored and allotted luxurious nobility
•mogh & morgott: banished from public eye
•Rhykard: given authority over Inquisition.
•Radahn: General of renown
•Miquella: allowed luxurious freedom yet strangely ignored (likely his charm curse)
•Malenia: praised warrior but left seperated (likely for her rot)
•BUT Ranni: Princess of the allied domain yet given a warden/ hound guard and restricted to a point of extremes?
This implies that while Godwyn was obvious head emperyean that Ranni may have had more raw potential. This maybe evident by her procession of a moon.
Ngl dark golden moon ranni sounds pretty badass
Can we get a souls game where we are around during all the cool shit going down that'd be cool for once ngl
One of these days, I'm gonna beat this game.
GODWYN DOESN'T LOSE
Godwyn inherited Godfrey’s Chad energy and was killed for it, sad
But technically we have Godfrey Chad energy since we are of same blood being tarnished
I think it’s better Godwyn died, even if people don’t agree. Elden Ring basically wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for his death.
Bro was literally a shonen protagonist.
Unfortunately for him he dropped in the wrong genre and met an end befitting of it.
This is so cool.
Godwyns Story might not end here. Depending on Miquellas Plans he may come back. And I would also be interested in Rannis reasoning to murder Godwyn in particular.
She might now have specified him. But if she did, it was probably because he was pretty literally the Golden Child.
I feel like if they do another DLC they’ll definitely touch on Godwyn on this one
There wont be another one sadly
wonder if there'll be an expansion about godwyn or the shattering
Would have loved to see Godwyn in shadow of the erdtree. I was really expecting more of him
What a legendary story
I can’t join any other covenant than the frenzy flame because that family is fck up
Embrace lord Goldmask ideology, outer gods fk off, fingers fk off, only equal and peaceful empire of a dude who just fixed family issue
I need to see an actual family/relationship tree for everyone
Of course the most just of them had to die, certified Miyazaki moment