Props to some officers on this table for recognizing the clones efforts and how unfair this is all turning out for them. Even if that doesn't change a bit the outcome, but It's surprising for me to see a high ranking imperial to even slightly care and spoke up abt that, so there is that at least...
That guy who recognised the clones is admiral Barton Coburn from the Clone Wars who rescued the crew on the Citadel Mission and worked with Commander Wolffe against the Zygerrian salves. He was not shown speaking in the clip but I thought it'd be nice to share that there are still those who believes that clones have been and could still be great
High ranking Imperials used to be low to high ranking Republic Officers. Some of them fully embraced the ideals of the Republic but were smart enough to not paint a target on their backs when the regime changed.
It makes him feel connected to the series outside of the books because from the animation and series it feels like he came to command the Death Star out of nowhere despite a maybe one mention in Rebels.
I always felt that Hemlock's speech patterns and vocabulary choices reminded me of someone but I couldn't put my finger on it - but now I know it's Thrawn
Thrawn used his own vocabulary to add onto his Sherlock Holmes’ esque personna. Meanwhile Hemlock gives Nazi scientist vibes with a sense of being a psychopath in how he talks about everything. Creates some great variety in the Imperial villains.
@@thechrometrooper5454Thrawn is inspired by Sherlock with a mix of Julius Caesar and Napoleon while Hemlock is like a Frankenstein I'm sure. Although they also took inspiration from Nazi scientists. And without a doubt both are magnificent villains
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@@zachduperron8543 Hemlock is a very interesting character. I hope he'll be around for a while. He does work on top secret projects so we have no reason to hear of him anywhere else.
Hamlock must have been so obsessed with Kaminoan cloning methods that he even adopted their emotional aloofness, or rather, he detached himself from any emotion. He, in every essence, sounds and behaves like a Kaminoan.
Palpatine should have found Exegol by now, but the Sith Eternal has yet to start cloning experiments without Nala Se's help. Once she cooperates, the Sith Eternal will create Snoke and Dathan.
It feels like they're making up for the sequels by rationalizing it because even though they made a split second decision to bring Palpatine back out of pressure to salvage the ratings, I definitely can't see them choosing to revive Palpatine if the Imperial Cloning Project was made in Bad Batch first, where they'd have more time to carefully plan things out step by step and see the next steps instead of jumping several years like they did in the movies.
I think so, I’m sure there will be more in depth theory videos somewhere, they even admit the clones didn’t consent to being tested on, just like the ones who were turned into the dark troopers in legends
no, he said “test subjects” no mention of Dark Troopers. Also this is about Hemlock trying to break down how the Kaminoans Cloning works for a certain Palpatine. Dark Troopers in canon appear way later, not now since the galaxy has basically no massive wide rebellions.
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Isnt this a scene that was suppose to be featured in the finale of Star wars rebels? I belive I have read rumors Rebels was suppose to end with Tarkin, Krennic, and other high imperial officers talking about the future of the empire?
Darth Vader: (Mechanical Breathing) Doctor Hemlock. Hemlock: Lord Vader. Darth Vader: You seemed unsettled Hemlock: No, there are present times to attend to. Darth Vader: My Apologies, you do have many things to explain Hemlock: I delivered my projects to the Emperor's request, I deserve an audience, to make certain that he understands its remarkable potential Darth Vader: Its power to create problems certainly confirms, a city destroyed, an imperial facility openly attacked? Hemlock: It was Governor Tarkin sugested the test Darth Vader: You were not summoned here to grovel, Doctor Hemlock. Hemlock: No I uh. Darth Vader: There are no clones, the Senate has informed that Tipoca City was destroyed by Vice Admiral Rampart's fleet. Hemlock: Yes, My Lord. Darth Vader: I expect you not to grasp until you ensure the Emperor, that the Clone Rebellion must not compromise your projects in any way. Hemlock: So I'm in command? (Mechanical Breathing) Hemlock: You'll speak to the Emperor about...(choking) Darth Vader: Be careful not to choke on your aspirations, Doctor. Hemlock: (gasps)
Somehow Palpatine returned, obviously this is a reference to cloning experiments that allowed the Emperor to return to life, live action and animated series are trying to fix some of the mistakes in the sequels. Look guys, actually I don't mind the sequels, personally I enjoyed them, but that doesn't means I'm not aware of their faults. The real problem in the sequels was that Palpatine's return was never planned and there no clues, references or even intention of Palpatine's return in the first two movies (TFA and TLJ), but the fact is that Legends did Palpatine bring back to life, but as far as I know, was a better structured plot than sequels'.
Maybe that's gonna be a side use of what Hemlock's doing. I mean we all thought in Mandalorian that Grogu was used to clone Palpatine but it was all about Gideon. Then in Bad Batch Hemlock talks about an enlightened and submissive society so I think what they're doing with the clones has to do with the removal of free will or something like this. Far more sinister and interesting than just cloning Palpatine.
@@Luke_SkywaIker He refers to Tarkin as "Governor" in this episode. It can’t be archival since in Mendelsohn’s previous appearances, Tarkin was a Grand Moff.
Hemmlock has drawn a sufficient amount of money from the imperials, and made many clones in the test subjects in his work. The question is, what’s he trying to create?
Well, he is making the rebel clones basically zombies loyal to the empire, but what Palpatine really seeks is to be able to clone his body with the midichlorians in his DNA, in order to live forever
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For anyone who does not know, the Admiral who stood up for the clones at the table was master plo koons and commander wolffes admiral
He's not in this clip however.
Admiral Coburn, I remember. The other officer is General Romodi who sounded concerned more about their goals than the Clones themselves.
Oh wow
Props to some officers on this table for recognizing the clones efforts and how unfair this is all turning out for them. Even if that doesn't change a bit the outcome, but It's surprising for me to see a high ranking imperial to even slightly care and spoke up abt that, so there is that at least...
Eh, more like just trying to save face in front of their people representatives.
That guy who recognised the clones is admiral Barton Coburn from the Clone Wars who rescued the crew on the Citadel Mission and worked with Commander Wolffe against the Zygerrian salves. He was not shown speaking in the clip but I thought it'd be nice to share that there are still those who believes that clones have been and could still be great
High ranking Imperials used to be low to high ranking Republic Officers. Some of them fully embraced the ideals of the Republic but were smart enough to not paint a target on their backs when the regime changed.
Pretty that guy served with Commander Wolffe too, which is probably where his respect came from
Right
Director krenic cameo was good
did we just forget that Admiral Coburn and General Romondi were also present at the meeting?
@@WCaptainJoseph i forgot who they were
@@WCaptainJoseph oh shit thats them my god
@Homer Admiral Barton Coburn was featured in the Clone Wars TV Show, mostly known to be with Plo Koon and the 104th Battalion.
@Homer General Hurst Romondi was the guy with the six yellow badge plaque in Rogue One when Tarkin ordered Scarif to be destroyed by the Death Star.
Dr Hemmlock is such a good villain. He is cold, calculating and menacing
Excellent voice actor also. Up there with thrawn
@@joshjohnson2753 ikr
I hope he doesn't die so quickly in the bad batch, hope he shows up in the mandalorian
@@hellothere-bx8cf Thatd be pretty cool
I would love to see Hemlock reappear in other projects. Do you guys think Cylo was a apprentice of Hemlock's?
I wondered, is that Krennic?? Yes it was! Awesome when Tarkin told him to report with an update on Project Stardust, and we all know what that is 😂
It makes him feel connected to the series outside of the books because from the animation and series it feels like he came to command the Death Star out of nowhere despite a maybe one mention in Rebels.
And they got Ben Mendelsohn to reprise his role.
I always felt that Hemlock's speech patterns and vocabulary choices reminded me of someone but I couldn't put my finger on it - but now I know it's Thrawn
Except for the fact that Thrawn is not a cold psychopath.
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Thrawn used his own vocabulary to add onto his Sherlock Holmes’ esque personna. Meanwhile Hemlock gives Nazi scientist vibes with a sense of being a psychopath in how he talks about everything. Creates some great variety in the Imperial villains.
@@THE_GUY_ONE Thrawn is quite forgiving..
@@thechrometrooper5454Thrawn is inspired by Sherlock with a mix of Julius Caesar and Napoleon while Hemlock is like a Frankenstein I'm sure. Although they also took inspiration from Nazi scientists. And without a doubt both are magnificent villains
This animation has gotten absolutely gorgeous.
And it’s still people genuinely pretending that it’s bad 😂
Like the 2000s-2020s
The animation has improved immensely, but the plot isn’t very good.
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Hemlock has such a small but powerful voice
Clones were truly the victims bruh :(
When even the Soviet Union don’t agree with Hemlock’s shit
Whatever horrible science experiment Hemlock has in store he won’t get away with in the long run!
But the cost of taking him down may be the reason why Rex, Wolffe, amd Gregor were all alone on that walker in Rebels.
we know his experiment gonna fail because stardust is the project that got prioritized
@@SousukeAizen421 and we also don’t hear of Hemlock anywhere else so his fate is sealed
@@zachduperron8543 Hemlock is a very interesting character. I hope he'll be around for a while. He does work on top secret projects so we have no reason to hear of him anywhere else.
I think he will. Palpatine achieved what he wanted in the end, and the dark trooper program was successful
Hamlock must have been so obsessed with Kaminoan cloning methods that he even adopted their emotional aloofness, or rather, he detached himself from any emotion. He, in every essence, sounds and behaves like a Kaminoan.
I know Dr. Hemlock is evil…but his voice is so attractive.
Palpatine should have found Exegol by now, but the Sith Eternal has yet to start cloning experiments without Nala Se's help. Once she cooperates, the Sith Eternal will create Snoke and Dathan.
It feels like they're making up for the sequels by rationalizing it because even though they made a split second decision to bring Palpatine back out of pressure to salvage the ratings, I definitely can't see them choosing to revive Palpatine if the Imperial Cloning Project was made in Bad Batch first, where they'd have more time to carefully plan things out step by step and see the next steps instead of jumping several years like they did in the movies.
@@fornax5798That's exactly what Disney is doing.
@@fornax5798 many decisions throughout the saga were split second...
Are there going to turn them into dark troopers since the first dark troopers are clones enhanced by cybernetics according to legends
I think so, I’m sure there will be more in depth theory videos somewhere, they even admit the clones didn’t consent to being tested on, just like the ones who were turned into the dark troopers in legends
If so, I hope they will make some Moff Gideon cameo in season 3
@@GrahamWarzywo voiced by Giancarlo himself just like Krennic in the show
Please God, let it be the phase 0 dark troopers!
But by but they really hammer home just how shitty the Clones got dealt after all they sacrificed.
Hemlock experimenting with humans, Rampant arguing he was just following orders
This reminds me of something...
Dark troopers
no, he said “test subjects” no mention of Dark Troopers. Also this is about Hemlock trying to break down how the Kaminoans Cloning works for a certain Palpatine. Dark Troopers in canon appear way later, not now since the galaxy has basically no massive wide rebellions.
@@WCaptainJoseph
In the old canon the first Dark Troopers were Clones that had been experimented on
Clone Rights
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An Imperial Eugenics Program
An enhaced society through genétic research was a just a cover, the real goal was always Palpatine inmortality
Isnt this a scene that was suppose to be featured in the finale of Star wars rebels? I belive I have read rumors Rebels was suppose to end with Tarkin, Krennic, and other high imperial officers talking about the future of the empire?
I'm not sure - but I'm glad they had a chance to incorporate it.
Darth Vader: (Mechanical Breathing) Doctor Hemlock.
Hemlock: Lord Vader.
Darth Vader: You seemed unsettled
Hemlock: No, there are present times to attend to.
Darth Vader: My Apologies, you do have many things to explain
Hemlock: I delivered my projects to the Emperor's request, I deserve an audience, to make certain that he understands its remarkable potential
Darth Vader: Its power to create problems certainly confirms, a city destroyed, an imperial facility openly attacked?
Hemlock: It was Governor Tarkin sugested the test
Darth Vader: You were not summoned here to grovel, Doctor Hemlock.
Hemlock: No I uh.
Darth Vader: There are no clones, the Senate has informed that Tipoca City was destroyed by Vice Admiral Rampart's fleet.
Hemlock: Yes, My Lord.
Darth Vader: I expect you not to grasp until you ensure the Emperor, that the Clone Rebellion must not compromise your projects in any way.
Hemlock: So I'm in command?
(Mechanical Breathing)
Hemlock: You'll speak to the Emperor about...(choking)
Darth Vader: Be careful not to choke on your aspirations, Doctor.
Hemlock: (gasps)
Why do the soft spoken villains always get these organ themes?
Somehow Palpatine returned, obviously this is a reference to cloning experiments that allowed the Emperor to return to life, live action and animated series are trying to fix some of the mistakes in the sequels. Look guys, actually I don't mind the sequels, personally I enjoyed them, but that doesn't means I'm not aware of their faults. The real problem in the sequels was that Palpatine's return was never planned and there no clues, references or even intention of Palpatine's return in the first two movies (TFA and TLJ), but the fact is that Legends did Palpatine bring back to life, but as far as I know, was a better structured plot than sequels'.
Maybe that's gonna be a side use of what Hemlock's doing. I mean we all thought in Mandalorian that Grogu was used to clone Palpatine but it was all about Gideon. Then in Bad Batch Hemlock talks about an enlightened and submissive society so I think what they're doing with the clones has to do with the removal of free will or something like this. Far more sinister and interesting than just cloning Palpatine.
@@beenalive1736 they were probably gonna harvest Grogu's Midichlorians for the project...
Did Ben Mendelssohn reprise his role
yes, just for one line.
@@WCaptainJoseph maybe they asked him to do it while he was filming something else?
It was more than likely archival audio
@@Luke_SkywaIker He refers to Tarkin as "Governor" in this episode. It can’t be archival since in Mendelsohn’s previous appearances, Tarkin was a Grand Moff.
I've literally listened to the first part 5 times and I swear he says the kevin owens instead of kaminoains haha
Oh just you wait, Hemlock. Once Senator Chuchi finds out what you’re doing, she’ll be like a Loth Wolf on a bone.
Hemmlock has drawn a sufficient amount of money from the imperials, and made many clones in the test subjects in his work. The question is, what’s he trying to create?
I believe it’s like an early phase 0 dark trooper. Or something similar.
Well, he is making the rebel clones basically zombies loyal to the empire, but what Palpatine really seeks is to be able to clone his body with the midichlorians in his DNA, in order to live forever
Why didn’t they mention fucking dark trooper project. I don’t care about the Death Star
What do you think hemlock is working on
@@alyxlocke1284 Dark troopers. And other things.
@@alyxlocke1284 u know the empire had thousands of weapons capable of destroying planets. Not just the death star
@@mattheweaton9111 wait so are you upset they didn’t mention it by name?
@@alyxlocke1284 I’m upset that because they didn’t mention it their not gonna do it.
Stop the episode came out like an hour ago
Impressive how they're able to get all this footage so soon tbh.
Imagine of Thrawn was here
He wasn't high up at the time.
@@paolotorres8537 doesn't matter admiral is fine enough; Palpatine saw potential in him like Anakin did
"Sciene isn't something yo rush" want an entire clone army to experiment on. So you do rush science