Why Norway is Shifting Right
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Let's take a look at the recent chaos in Norway, why the current government is so unpopular, and why public opinion is shifting to the right.
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Why "insert country" is shifting to the right:
Migrants
It makes sense since the majority of people are stupid they would have stupid opinions
More like disappointing economics, which right-wing policies are no better at resolving. But corporations don't have faces whereas migrants do, so they're easier to blame.
Not even migrants: it's moslems
literally this
Norway is a bit more complicated than that. FYI the norwegian labour party is essentially a right wing party.
"Why young people are voting for right wing populists is not fully understood": you really don't want to mention immigration, don't you?
"They're right wing so they must be racist and anti immigration" 💩
Immigration in Norway is next to nothing about 35k per year
I really really wonder al the time when I hear delusional opinions like yours if you actually just did the bare minimum of researching the demographics of basically all European countries and what experts say about the lack of workers and economic growth? And how the increasing number of old people affects the countries?
Sure, u can say something absolutely dumb like "people need to get more children so the state needs to support families and so on" but that's bs and you can see how successful this is in South Korea.
So once again, what's your solution?
Like don't get me wrong, I'm absolutely no one who thinks this is only great and such a great opportunity for us but it's just the only option we have if you don't wanna see a massive economic decrease of our economys.
I absolutely agree that we need to regulate the amount of people, that people who commit crimes need to be sent back but to act like immigration is something bad is as I said delusional and just shows a lack of knowledge. Nothing else. But sure you can try to convince me otherwise, but dumb right wing bs narratives won't convince me or solve the problems.
@@benfischer6303the fact is that immigrants only propose a short term solution to the demographic crisis afflicting European countries. This is because, firstly, most (legal) migrants are working age, 30-40 years old, of whom many will be approaching retirement age in the next 20-30 or so years. Secondly, provided these migrants assimilate and actually adopt the practices of their host country, they are unlikely going to contribute to a higher fertility rate. Furthermore, often are not integrated, usually by nature of the fact that they hail from countries where the dominant culture is incompatible with the culture of Western European societies (most often Muslim-majority countries) Of course, this leads to cultural issues and spikes in incidences of violent crime as well as increasing support for anti-Western policies. This is not to be ignored. Then there’s the issue of illegal immigrants, which I don’t think really needs explaining, these people contribute to a net loss of government finances and provide no long term benefit to our countries, many do not have good intentions and they barely speak our language nor intend to learn it.
@@benfischer6303… You are aware that migrants *age* right? You are trading the future for the present, all so you get to keep your hands clean and pretend the post Cold War settlement is sustainable on the backs of imported labour.
Norwegian here. Altough I like Støre, his government is absolutely useless. Currently we have:
- Weak Krone (11kr to the Dollar. In 2014 it was 6kr.)
- Record High Electricity Prices (Not only Labours fault though).
- A Cabinet Filled With Corrupt Politicans & Clowns
Then there are also the issues found in every Western European country I guess:
- Rising Costs
- Immigration
- Wasteful Government Spending
We have the same issues in Sweden and our government is the party to the right we also experience a weak crown and record high electricity prices. I lived in Norway from 2015 to 2021 and these issues were also prevalent in the previous Norwegian government. Our previous gouvnerment was lead my the social democrats (the Swedish equivalent of Arbeiderpartiet) and we also had these issues back then, so both our countries have had these issues during both more left and right-leaning governments.
Basically every left government with the classic mentally "we should spend more, always more"
helt enig
Join the EU, that will at least solve your currency issues :)
Immigration is deliberate. It's not something they can't solve, it's something they're forcing on Europe. Wake up sheep. Keep virtue signalling and watch your country turn into another France, Belgium and UK.
insider trading is not a sign of "weak leadership"
it is a sign that leadership is strongly corrupt
Corruption undermines confidence in leaders, I would consider it to be a form of weak leadership
@@luke-be8yw you are inverting cause and effect.
Corrupt leaders are weak.
But weak leaders are not automatically corrupt
Respectfully.
Regarding the insider trading, it's clear that our prime minister has failed to institute a proper system of actually keep that in check.
Doesn't mean that he's in any way, shape or form corrupt himself.
But his weakness failed to set up systems that stopped his colleagues from being corrupt or have conduct that potentially could be seen as corrupt.
There's no evidence of *actual* insider trading, but the mere possibility is unacceptable...
@@Luredreier Disagree
He did not "fail". He meant for corruption to happen. That is why he choose these ministers. That is why he fought against long established checks and balances to prevent this
This is not "a failure". It is by design.
@@Luredreier there was no "failure"
The choice of ministers was deliberate.
Corruption was always part of the plan.
Imagining losing your streak at 99😂😂
Rip Betty White
At least they had a streak, DUH!
Shane Warne's highest batting score was 99. But while he was the greatest bowler of our generation, he was never much of a batsman.
My grandma passed away 8 days before her 100th bday XD
@@natedogg890 right not sure why u felt the need to put "XD" at the end of that but ok
"electrification of oil rigs" made me spit out my coffee hahaha
It actually isn't as stupid as it sounds.It's the only fossil fuels that are being burned in Norway, and hooking them up to the power grid would provide them with clean hydropower. It's just terribly expensive to make cables stretching so far out to the sea to service them.
@@jeppepuus It is stupid, because that gas that you no longer burn for power generation on the platform, can now instead be exported to the EU that burns it instead. Same thing with the natural gas plant at Melkøya, where the idiots in charge are now going to electrify it.
@@jeppepuus They won't be powered by hydropower, they'll be powered by wind farms, which is equally stupid.
Oil rigs have been going diesel electric for decades now. Not only do you get more torque, but better control, and less noise. They’re essentially hybrids.
@@jeppepuus it's stupid!!
Our PM suffers from being what we Norwegians call a Tåkefyrste. He is unclear, refuses to take the hard calls cause he is terrified to dissapoint, and speaks almost like in riddles to sound impressive.
least charismatic PM in our history.
@Fernand-xg4il Are you from Norway? I am, I know I will not vote for someone not wanting to further Norwegian success with new innovation and technology. You can try to run on those platforms but I don't think you will get a lot of votes, sorry man
@@Zincoshine- Better than our previous PM. She had lockdown parties just like Boris.
He's an old right-winger...isn't he?
Like all the other corrupt politicians he refuses to do what is right in order to secure his future in the industry after his political career. Make no choices and make no trouble...for the important people that is. And we are not what they would call important.
@@Zincoshine- I think we had a worse one back in 1940.
No mention of the fact that most norwegians don't like EU?
Norway has the worst deal : they have to accept all EU regulations
although they are not actually
members. .
@@2msvalkyrie529they get to keep their very strong currency and have control over their own monetary policy
@@2msvalkyrie529 Norway actually do have the right to veto and not accept EU regulation. The issue is that politicians are very afraid of how the EU would react to Norway using that power. As far as I know Norway has only used it once in 2011.
Well, its not exactly a clear "we don't like the EU", so for a video like this where it's not directly necessary, it would be problematic to try and cover it properly. Just to name a few things, while yes, "most" don't like the EU (51% last I checked), that still means around half of Norwegians either like the EU, don't care, or feel they don't know the topic well enough to answer. Secondly, a fairly big portion of those who don't like the EU still want to maintain a connection, they just don't like the current form our deal takes.
@@Neptune0404 Yep. The EU is here to stay and not maintaining some kind of relationship with the EU would be very isolating.
Letting the EU have free reign over our natural resources would be financial suicide. So we stay in the EEA. The European Single Market is too valuable to leave behind. Leaving it would not only hurt the EU, but also hurt us.
The EEA is probably the closest we can get to a best of two worlds and a trade agreement would most likely be worse.
Norwegian Political Science student here
Some quick add-ons to the current situation:
-A major reason for Støre's unpopularity is that people feel he just doesn't do anything about current issues in Norway, such as soaring electricity prices, fighting inflation, and higher rents, he just kinda sits around and tries waiting for things to fix itself.
-People generally poll more radically because both Progress Party and the left wing parties are anti-EU membership, while the two main parties have been promoting the idea of further EU integration, as well as the fact they aggressively campaign on measures they want to take to help with current issues
-Erna Solberg's scandal didn't really affect Høyre's polling very much and is generally a popular politician. People blame her husband more cause he's the one who did invest in stocks against the recommendations of the Prime Minister's Office (SMK)
-Under the election campaign, Støre was riding the wave that they cared more for climate change than the current government, then proceeded to cut national emissions by 0.1% in one year
I am a Norwegian as well, and my impression is that sum of all the political scandals hints at rampant corruption by the ministers in Norway. Since i am working with law i see the problem of this in polititcs. Besause normal people are innocent until proven guilty, but when it comes to the media, you are guilty until proven innocent. So there is a cognitive dissinance between court system and how people are seeing the court system, giving them an impression that politicians are more insulated against the law then normal peoples. If it is 90% proven that a politician has indulged in corruption, then the legal verdict is innocent while the population is saying guilty. So the sum of all the scandals is giving people the impression that the goverment is too corrupt and inneffective to goven Norway as a whole.
The other thing is that the goverment has elected on the baisis that it is "Normal peoples turn" and than means now the normal population should get a better living standard, because the Norwegian living standard has declined the last ten yars, and when it comes to it, it's even gotten worse, and the decline of the Norwegian Economy has accelerated. When you look at it, Norway has never mad more money on exports then ever, and despite of this people had suffered declining living standards and loss of purchasing power og weaker currency. So Norwegians are wondering where the money goes, they are offered no reasonable explanation to that at all from the goverment. So the sum of weak and ineffective policy, they will loose the election so bad that there is nothing to compare this in any party in any European post war history at all. So it's game over, we are looking at a train wrecking played in slowmotion here in Norway now!
@@janerikkvarsten2273 this is on point as well, I'm just on a bus so couldn't write too much xD
Wow a big war on your doorstep, just got out of a global pandemic and the populace is complaining about falling living standards!
Democracies are a joke.
its safe to say that there are loopholes being exploited by politicians in general.
The current administration is just in the spotlight.
"A major reason for Støre's unpopularity is that people feel he just doesn't do anything about current issues"
This and that Arbeiderpartiet is less about the worker and more about the business these days.
( Høyre Light)
Sadly I think people never learn the right lessons from history... you can dislike the current centrist, center-left or even left-wing government. But right-wing government usually exist for a very specific reason, to serve the rich, they can hide it for a short time but will show their colors eventually. Very few right-wing government buck the trend.
I'm Norwegian and I have to say, your pronunciation of Norwegian words aren't that bad. I appreciate that. 🙂
That's at least one of the few things TLDR does really well, spending time to try to not butcher names.
It's not perfect, but the effort is highly appreciated.
@@teaser6089 yeah unless its eastern europe, in which case they couldn't care less
@@teaser6089 generally not lol. Jack (? - guy with the glasses) is generally bad with pronunciations.
Not all presenters. Just this one puts effort in @@teaser6089
@teaser6089 only she is good
Every Norwegian politics video: Exists
Every Norwegian: Finally I can comment my insights and knowledge about this topic because we are relevant in global politics!
... not
@@rizkyadiyanto7922 yeah it was sarcasm
As a New Zealander we do the exact same lmao
Norway should abolish their parliament and establish absolutism
At least Norway is on the map. Check out New Zealand!
I wish we in Germany had problems like that. In Hamburgs streets Muslim immigrants in the 10 thousands openly went to the streets and demonstrated to transfer Germany to a Caliphate. Glad to see that some countries still have to deal with older problems.
That sounds absolutely insane to me
I support the German people's right to reclaim their country and sovereign right to rule it, to prosper.
Enough is enough... All of Europe must reverse the entire thing and brand the enablers as betrayers.
Huh i keep having my comments deleted
send them away
You people have to go to the streets before its to late, like London.
06:30 "why young people are voting for right wing populists is not fully understood etc etc"
i do not see any effort in that sentence
it's indeed a classic
Should have just asked almost any norwegian as it mainly boils down to promises of lower taxes for youth by raising the tax floor from 70k to 250k and cheaper gas for cars and motorbikes. FrP also gains a rather large boost from how controversial their youth party leader Simon Velle is.
There are plenty of badly written videos at the moment.
Lots and lots of filler.
I had a good laugh when she said this!
It's specifically Gen Z men due to toxic "alpha male" and incel culture. The divide is so bad that it's crashed South Korea's birthrate. And it's starting to crash birthrates in other countries because Gen Z women want nothing to do with toxic "alpha males" and incels
Trying to pretend that too much immigration isn’t one of the reasons why Norwegians are shifting right is hilarious and downright devious
It's one of the reasons, but not the major reason or even one of the biggest reasons.
@@ArkBlanc
Exactly.
For instance, i used to vote socialist left party but switched to the greens because Labour is failing to make enough concessions on environmental issues leaving the socialist left party without coalition alternatives while the greens genuinely can negotiate with other centrist and center right parties.
And I argued for the greens to work with the conservatives in Trondheim while I lived there, and now they're in a coalition with the conservatives.
That's a shift to the right.
But it has nothing to do with immigration.
People are tired with the big political parties in general and are slowly shifting away from them to smaller parties over time.
Progress *is* benefitting from this, but theyrufar from alone in this.
There is no immigration problem in Norway. Saying that just because you’ve seen it else where only makes it sounds less credible than it already is
@@johndee1400haha true, he has no idea what he’s talking about 😂 Try talking to an actual Norwegian.
@@johndee1400 So Norway is still 100% white?
Northen norwegian here (tromsø), immigration is also a huge issue up here, lack of funds for proper homes, renovation of old buildings (most apartments are still from the 50-60s) and a severe lack of housing space. just in 3 years i have had to move 3 times due to this, and nothing is being done with this. Even the people who has been tasked of finding housing for immigrants struggle a lot, and dont see why we have such poor funding.
What I've learned from this video is that there is no Viking party in Norway. I'm not sure how I feel about that.
There's Piratpartiet, they haven't championed sea-borne raiding activies but they have some based takes on intellectual property rights.
Jeg elsker this post. 😂
@@odinlindeberg4624 Good to know!
Good point, we should have one with the main policy to liberate our lands still occupied by the Muscovite horde.
Greetings to 🇳🇴 from Latvia 🇱🇻
🇱🇻❤️🇳🇴
es dzivoju norvegija 😂 ir auksti bet vairak nauda
Greetings back to Livonia/Latgallia :) Hope you have a nice summer and take care of your Baltic brothers and remember to ask for help if you need.
Seems almost every few months that I see "[European Country] is shifting Right"
Right on time for the 30's
Yeah, just this "right wing" would be deemed "left wing" two decades ago...
Just commenting to get notification about replies from this section.
@@useodyseeorbitchute9450 nah
because the left did everything useful they could and now they are getting cocky and not listening to their voters
As a Norwegian its really cool to see you make a video about it.
As a swedish young man i can tell you why, WE STILL WANT A COUNTRY WHEN WE ARE OLD, its not really a hard concept to understand.
You're welcome to come live in Norway if Sweden becomes too bad for white swedes to live in.
Too late.
@@leondbleondb and you know this how, you saw a video of immigrants on twitter?
@@strom-uw3pt Logic mainly. Do you breed like they do? Oh? no? Do you have the same God they do? Oh
no? You don't believe in gods? Interesting recipe for the future :)
@@leondbleondbToo late 😂😂 sure buddy😂
Can you not lower the jingle volume?
Volume is unbalanced
Always a jumpscare.
@@JaegerDreadful 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
One of the best ways to lose some of your hearing.
@@JaegerDreadful could not have put it any better🤣🤣🤣
Wouldn’t call it a jingle, moreso a sonic wall. A thorough audiological thwopping
Norway in TH-cam title -> welcome all Norwegians.
Hei alle sammen!
Halla
Halla balla
Wow, I can feel the German influence (= Hallo zusammen).
@@Valerio_the_wandering_sprite - Yes, German is pretty close to Norwegian.
Norge gang
I chocked & then reverse snorted my tea when I heard about the proposal to electrify oil rigs to make them green.
BTW, How badly mass immigration is handled in the Nordics also has a role in pushing people towards right wing parties. Mass immigration especially from Islamic countries without asserting assimilation & preventing ghettoisation has resulted in disasters. It's not a mystery when citizens try to vote out the politicians who preceded over it & lectured people to accept it.
Precisely. Fredrik Reinfeld's government in Sweden learnt that lesson the hard way. His name is thoroughly discredited in Sweden.
No one with any sense want *assimilation* of immigrants.
What we need is *integration*.
And Norway has done a far better job of integrating our immigrants then Sweden has.
Unfortunately Swedish issues are starting to spill over to Norway.
Mot because we have any serious issues with our local immigrants but because Swedish ones are free to move in here with their issues...
Also, saying that Norway has handled the migration poorly is just nonsense.
Sweden did because of how their immigration intersected with their housing crises and their failure to keep their rural communities alive and healthy.
@@billyungen Reinfeld comes from the Conservative Party in Sweden right, the moderates if I remember?
@@Luredreier Its the naive expectation of “integration” that has led to the messes in Sweden and many other western countries. I’ve travelled through 5 continents and worked in 3. I’ve seen first hand how most cultures don’t mix. Culture is one of the root causes of troubles in many nations that people try to leave.
Stubbornly expecting them to be integrated in to western countries to peacefully coexist is the exact reason why ghettos exist.
If I’m to have even a remote chance of settling in a rich Middle Eastern nation with no segregation or discrimination, I’m expected to assimilate as in respect & adopt their culture, language & customs that built the country.
Not asking for the same from immigrants to western nations out of some assumed self-righteous guilt is the exact root cause of failures in Sweden, England & Paris. Thinking that Norway is immune from this is another level of naivety.
@@SafeBandicootyou said it more diplomatically than i wouldve.
People got no clue how societies works or how humans interacts with each other in history and even right now...i can give a dozen of exemples.
The rightwing in Norway is not like what people are thinking about, the different wont be big.
Correct they are all the same
Absolutely. Socialists the lot of them. Even Fremskrit (progressive) is not drawing a proper line in the sand, although they are the best option out of the major parties. Fremskrit was at its finest under Carl I Hagen, but has fallen off as of late, and capitulated more or less, and look more like the Høgre of old.
As a Norwegian national, I do not pay much attention to the Norwegian government, mostly because of how terrible the trajectory is looking. I have greater hopes for the rest of Europe, and in the US, even Argentina.
Truth is, if there is to be change, it has to start in the US, and slowly the waves will be on our rocky shores. When we see the positive results of rejecting liftism, and horrible socialist policies.
And if we do not see change the population will rise up against the tyranny.
@@tuborg38 Our entire political class is basically traitors. Kvislinger for EU, all of them.
@@tuborg38 You can be a nationalist and also accept immigrants.
But it needs to be done right, and integration is the issue, not the fact itself that people arrive from abroad (which we are dependant on for growth).
@@SebHaarfagre treng ikkji meire innvandring, hvis mø kan reversere alt feminisme har ødelagt. Det må gjøras radikale endringer for å få vesten tebake på rett veg.
Wow Norway, actually holds people in power accountable who commit insider trading unlike America.
Yep, I was thinking the something embezzlement is not a crime in USA, it how politicians are voted in.
sounds like the uk government without the resignations
O there have been resignations, many of them
I had to laugh when they mentioned their pm is as unpopular as ricci.
@@valhall89 But not Solberg who also had her own lockdown party. At least Boris resigned.
Nice Video: It gave a good outside look at the current situation in Norway with some interesting augmentations from Norwegian perspectives in the comments. Also it feels like Georgina is getting more and more comfortable with hosting the videos. I like having a bit of a mix of different hosts and voices for the channel while maintaining a coherent TLDR style.
As a Norwegian this was analysis so spot on! Well done!
jepp,,,same here
The message, "Actually expect politicians to be good" seems like a dig at some other nations... 3:52
I hope to god we never lose this attitude. We have a very good/civil "political culture" in Norway and it's a precious thing.
i am portuguese and go and vote in every elections, but i am not delusional i know where i live
@@MinedMakerthat is interesting to hear and it really is precious I think haha. In Czechia, everybody thinks that politicians are thieves and idiots who do nothing for people and most of the conversations about politics is pessimistic and negative😆
@@vilem2796
Ours are for the most part trying to do their best to make the country better.
They just disagree about the path, and sometimes there's incompetence involved...
I'm left leaning but I've made a switch to a centrist party and hope to get a center right government in the near future because labour really has been messing up lately.
They're not doing enough for the environment, inequality is continuing to increase, they've made too many sudden changes instead of taking a slow and steady approach making it harder to make predictions for companies operating in Norway.
(You can do capitalism in a high tax society, but not in one where you can't plan for the long term profitability that Investors need for return on investment)
You are missing a key part here.. look at the Norwegian taxes in every sector, high interest on mortgages… we pay insane high taxes here.
Not to mention that our politicians that have to abdicate for wrongdoing does not face any real consequences, while ordinary people would have been sentenced for the same things.. it is called political distaste.
Just look what happened to Anniken huitfeld as an example.. forced to leave the government (in shame) and then suddenly she gets the prestigious position of ambassador to the US.. politicians fail upwards in Norway…
The thing with the high taxes is that we get it back through publicly funded things like healthcare and so on. If we took the average tax here in Norway and put it up against the average tax in e.g. The states with added costs for all the publicly funded shit we get for free through our taxes, the American actually pays more
@@arecold4222 i would really like to see the that compared... Because we are taxed in every way here.
Kjeltringer, e trur mø blir nødt te å stifte National partiet, Norge for nordmen.(Ikkji Norge for EU, eller Norge for globalisme, eller Norge for resten tå værden) Og rive ned heile byråkratiet. Og I neste omgang fokusere all beskatning på å generere arbeidsplasser, og kutte ned kraftig på alle regulasjoner, og ting som gjør det vanskelig å starte , og drive bedrifter/ virksomheiter.
Samtidig kutte all statlig fund/grants te alle mulige kulturelle, og SJW søppel, som klima ditt og datt.
I neste linje, når arbeidsledigheten er adressert, så kan du kutte velfærd, og gi folk insentiver for å faktisk jobbe.
Når du får økonomisk vekst i landet, øker levestandarden. Og med ansvarlig politikk, så får du ein populis som er stolt over å væra Norsk.
Beskatning ska væra ein nødløsning... Ikkji ein default standard. Det er demoraliserende, og folk blir oppgit når dei hører at national kassa blir brukt på alt mulig dumme påfunn.
Ingen endring kan gjennomføras med corporate "høgre" delaktig. Det må væra majoritets styre landslide style basert på Norge fyst politikk, og ein sunn blanding tå liberatisme, og god gammal sunn konservativ politikk som grunnlag.
We’re the country that has most taxation in the whole world actually. It is absolutely insane.
@@AshravensTV yeah that sounds about right…
Tbh the Labour Party has been unpopular for more than a year by now. Their unpopularity mainly collapsed during 2021 and 2022, since then they have remained stable but catastrophic compared to their historic results. Another big loss for the left-wing coalition was the center party which has essentially been in a constantly call since 2021 where they topped some polls but are now between 5-9%.
The Green Party also doesn't consider itself as part of the left-wing block (but they are also yet to get more than the 4% threshold for levelling seats and currently only have 3 regional seats) if that changed it would be nice if someone could correct me.
In 2023 the Conservatives which gained from the big losses of Labour started loosing support to the new Industry and Business Party which polled over the 4% treshold in some polls and are populist. However now it seems that in the last few months that the Progress Party has eaten all the support of the Industry and Business Party and gained it, while others have remained unaffected.
No, as a MDG voter I can confirm that we're still at 3 seats.
We're the party with the most voters to seat ratio that's represented in the parliament right now.
I don't really mind that as I think that the goal of our electoral system of favouring rural areas while still maintaining proportiality for parties with more then 4% is a good idea.
But it definitely makes us *want* to cross that 4% threshold all the more...
As a norwegian, the inflation/shrinkflation here is horrible. Last week i bought myself a ice cream called 'pin-up'. But when i picked it up, it was like 2.5 times smaller and is way more expensive. And yesterday i was in this resturant called Egon. A pepperoni pizza costs frikin 300kr, which is somewhere around 30$.
300kr på Egon?!
As a non-Norwegian here, I approve of your pronunciations
As someone who lives in Norway, this is a very nice video to have about the current political situation here
Makes sense, happens time and time again in parliamentary systems. When a party enjoys a long period of popularity, they get complacent every single time. The population begins shifting to the other party, rinse and repeat.
Well, that's not really true here. The left wing coalition has been ruling incompetently since the start, and I'm not saying that as someone opposed to their policies. They've just been bad at their job as leaders and politicians, the previous time we had a left-wing government they did everything better.
I like how small shift to right is "crisis"
Well irrelevant for Norway but maybe just check how that infected Poland or especially Hungary and how damaging this is for the EU. No one thinks conservatives are a problem, obviously it's about parties beyond their stands. And I don't wanna bring up history but it's kinda hard to act like that never caused problems for Europe.
@@benfischer6303 True. I have nothing against conservatives parties, but hard-right parties (or far-right, nowadays I don't know how to call them to avoid getting insulted) are so popular, classical conservative parties are also shifting towards the conservative populist platform, causing immense problems for classical conservatives that find them too radical now. I would even argue a healthy democracy needs at least three big parties : centrist, conservative and socialist, to ensure a balance between stability, tax restructurings and worker rights. And alternate over the time. If one of the three falls, it would lead to unbalance, and open the path for more radical right and left parties that will lead either towards authoritarianism and repression, or economic unbalance and a string of fast social changes that would only serve to radicalise the right (I'm not saying social changes are bad, just that if too many are done in 1 term, this would radicalise conservatives towards far-right parties).
@@benfischer6303 Poland and Hungary were soaring in every single metric for almost a decade: growth, reduction of crime, no terrorism, etc.
You picked very bad example for your "right is bad" argument.
Hungry is only European country without a declining birth rate and actually encourages family formation. But nah they’re just horrible right-wingers, how dare they 😂
@@raphym.3666"classical conservatism" is not true conservatism but marketliberalism with reasonable common sense and no take on social issues. Conservatism is mostly a social ideology, yet most "conservatives" have nothing to say about those.
The politicians in Norway are so corrupted and unqualified for their positions to the point it is ridiculous. Here are some examples.
Jonas Gahr Støre (Prime minister and head of the labour party) was interviewed and was asked if he have been a worker in his life. His answer was that he is a politician but his grandpa was a worker and one of his leaders also works with welding in a factory.
(Yes, seriously this was his answer)
Then we have Sandra Borch who was the Norwegian minister of research and higher education until she resigned recently.
She was caught for plagiarism on her master's thesis.
So even our minister of higher education did not pass her own masters without cheating!
Then we have Erna Solberg (earlier prime minister and head of the conservative party) when she was the prime minister she got insider information on companies serveral times and her husband was buying/selling shares in the companies she had insider information on.
She claims that information was not shared with her husband but it is definitely suspicious behaviour.
The leader of the Red Party (Rødt) Bjørnar Moxnes was caught stealing sunglasses at the airport in 2023 then later that same year he was caught for stealing food from the store 5 times in less than 1 month.
He resigned after the incident.
I could go on and on and on all day long but this is what our beloved leaders have been upto recently.
Edit: Some of this information is in the video, I did write this before I watched the video.
Kunne ikkje ha sagt då betre meg sjølv
Borch isn’t even getting banned from all university colleges like every other student who cheated on their master would be, she can somehow just write a new one and submit it. Naive Norwegian elders are so stupid that they keep supporting her as well… They claim that since the position she had didn’t require a masters it was irrelevant. When fact is that she had to work herself up to that point, getting other jobs which DID require the masters. Masters in general looks good on your resume as well. She cheated her way to the top.
Then we have Kjerkol, a literal troll. She was also caught plagiarizing her masters. Borch had about 22% text-resemblance, up to 15% is normal as sources and direct quotes from sources will get flagged. But Kjerkol’s master was WAY worse, her text-resemblance was at 44%.
How these papers got approved is insane. It’s standard protocol by university and colleges to have a human professor manually review the papers which show a text resemblance of 15% or more to verify if the plagiarism machine is correct. Borch’s master with 22% text-resemblance, even with sources should NOT have gone through. And Kjerkol’s master with 44% text resemblance should’ve especially never gone through. There is no doubt this problem has roots way deeper than what we currently know.
What’s ESPECIALLY pissing me off is that recently a girl got her master paper cancelled and she got banned from all higher education for years because she “plagiarized” one of her own previously submitted texts… She appealed and lost in court. WHY are politicians being treated completely differently? It pisses me off so bad.
Nå må det sies at kleptomanien til Moxnes bare kom til uttrykk på privaten og har egentlig ikke noe å gjøre med hans rolle som Stortingsrepresentant. Men jeg skjønner at han trakk seg som partileder når han mistet ansikt på den måten.
No Norway (and many other countries) aren't "shifting to the right". What is happening is the political classes in many western nations are shifting to the left. That means what were centre-left parties are shifting towards the extreme left, centrist parties are becoming centre left and centre right parties are becoming centrist if not centre-left themselves. And harder right parties are shifting to what would once be called the centre right because politics, much like nature, abhors a vacuum. This is only happening within the political class. Amongst civilians the balance of viewpoints remains pretty much the same, they just don't see their "traditional" parties representing them any more. Centre left voters don't see "their" parties representing centre-left views any more. Centrists don't see "their" parties representing centrist views and conservatives cannot recognise what are laughingly called "conservative" parties. All of them are taking a step to the right in party names because the parties have all taken a step to the left.
the gap between norways left and right parties are very small compared to other countries though idk
A Norwegian with another perspective here. The Labour party has also become a white collar party and lost most of it's traditional blue collar roots outside of rhetoric. They have trended towards the right for the past 30-40 years, and in so lost a lot of their blue collar support, some of which has gone to the political right side parties for social policy reasons rather than economic. The party more closely in line with what labor traditionally championed is the SV socialistic left party, but they hold some internally conflicting positions on urbanization for climate reasons vs economic left and social safety net policy reasons, leading to them loosing out on some support in blue collar rural workers who again often vote against their economic self-interest for social populist positions of the "progress" party (Fremskrittspartiet). And Norway still has a large rural population where blue collar is dominant. Then there's the "Left" (Venstre) party that has taken a lot of the neo-liberal vote from the labor party (even though that was what Labor was going for 20 years ago), as while their name is "Left", their economics is solidly white collar professional and business friendly neo-liberal with socially progressive policies. The labor party got eaten from 2-3 directions because they lost their hard union and blue collar worker tie-in, and then the left lost a lot of the rural vote on social grounds + EU membership, while the "Left" party went right economically to gain a larger urban affluent voter block that still like to consider themselves left leaning.
Also, hardly any politician in the labor party has ever held a blue collar job, while 40+ years ago most of them had that and came up through blue collar union work.
Politics don't make sense on a 1-dimensional left-right scale, you really want to use spider-charts with 5+ dimensions when comparing political parties. Market vs planned economics, authoritarian vs libretarian, socially concervative vs progressive, urban vs rural, nationalist vs international, pacifist vs militaristic, secular vs religious, to name a few prime candidates.
As a Norwegian I agree on your arguments 😊
Veldig bra
Brilliant analysis.
Fun fact, in Norway we have a thing that we celebrate when we are ending upper secondary school. It is big thing here.
The student have a tradition to make like a ironic "business card".
Wheir they inskript , humour and jokes..
Støre . Moto was .
"Its better to be rich and healthy, than poor and sick. " :-)
Some nickname Støre as EEA Støre or Hamas Støre because people in Norway feel he is weak appeasing to international organisation/threatening groups.
TL;DR on the TLDR affecting virtually all Western, industrialized nations at the moment: Inflation and immigration.
3:15 You’re forgetting the most obvious, and important reason, Acer and the EU! Just after Store got elected Norway finished the third major electricity cable to the EU, the one to Great Britain. Not long after we accepted the last Acer agreement, and our electricity became just as costly as in the rest of EU, plus’s the hike abuse of the war in Ukraine and what that did to the price. Store and the leadership in Labor as well as the house trained journalists will refute this suggestion, violently, but it is the main, if not the only reason.
What the fuck do you want to do with the spare energy? Eat it?
We're a decade away from going in energy deficit and we're not building enough power plants to make up for it. We'll need to get the energy from somewhere.
@@jeppepuus We want a nationalised energy price cap that doesn't adjust to the international market. The price for energy in Norway shouldn't be the same as the price for it abroad, because it's our energy and is actually meant to be a guaranteed resource. The current government is literally breaking the law by turning energy into a profitable commodity when norwegian law excplicitly defines energy as a national resource for its people.
Norway could easily just cut those power cables without violating any EU rules. Not to mention the Great Britain is NOT in the EU or EFTA.
@@steinarnielsen8954 But then were back to the politicians, who wants to follow EU, be nice guys, and get a good job in a big international organisation when they quit politics.
@@SverreMunthe The problem is not the EU, but rather useless politicians. Iceland did a pretty good job in keeping electricity prices low. Ironically they're the only EFTA member state that actually tried to join the EU.
Norway: among the richest happiest most educated most advanced most developed countries
Also norwegians
When you're close to the top, you can mostly go down.
most advanced? in terms of what ...they don't have even have a reliable rail network
@@aymanla471Who does, then?
@@drago939393Switzerland
in combination with the human condition; arrogance & ignorance
I'm honestly impressed at the pronunciations here.
I miss when Socialist parties were able to actually appeal to the common people
Socialist parties are also doing quite well in Norway. In the local elections the Marxists got 24% of the vote
@@bloodwargaming3662 what?
Socialist parties used to be conservative socially. Hence why they appealed to men as well. Nowadays they are progressive communists (whining about capitalism and parading feminist and LGBT ideologies) which is exactly why no one but low T boys and women vote for them.
If you want a socialist party that does appeal to the populous see slovakia.
@@captainvanisher988 lmao keep crying lil bro even nowadays conservatives are socially left .
@@lucaslyng2875 look at Oslo local elections
The divide between left and right is not as basic as it is elsewhere. AP and høyre are basically the same except for some bullet points.
Lets just forget that the "right" has two periods end to end in norway before the current government.
Don't push your own political systems on ours. They are not the same.
It's a small thing, but I just wanted to say that I'm grateful for you saying 'Gen Zed' instead of 'Gen Zee'. It's a frequent annoyance for me elsewhere in the media and I was pleasantly surprised to hear it finally said the British way by somebody. Kudos, TLDR
All alternatives are some form of socialist (i.e. trusting the state, trusting "government", wanting even more power to the state), so "shifting right" is just adjusting the nuance slightly. It is more about which "socialist" leader you trust more.
"why sweden is shifting right"
"why norway is shifting right"
"why germany is shifting right"
"why france is shifting right"
"why the netherlands is shifting right"
"why belgium is shifting right"
"why the UK is shifting right"
"why italy is shifting right"
"why spain is shifting right"
common denominator.
The first winter of Støres government we had electricity bills upwards of 1000 dollars. Food bills exploded, same with fuel. 200.000 Norwegian households had to skip a meal to make ends meet. The shelves were empty of eggs for a long time.
In 2023 Our interest on loans exploded, like 500 dollars increased just in interest. What a christmas present. And the finance minister had the nerve to say that the average norwegian family earns 1 million nok after taxes and expensed, utterly delusional. So did the boss of Statskraft, she earns like 7 million nok and says she cant see the problem. Wont have much to say in a couple of years when the norwegian crown is worth less than gravel...
And still, the norwegian state made more money than ever, while people suffer.
Maybe this has something to do that the leader of the norwegian "labour" party being a mega millionaire?
My grandfather was a member of the Norwegian parliament for 19 years. He was in the labour party, but was a real worker. He worked on train tracks, and the prime minister at the times dug ditches for a living.
Norwegian here, people are shifting away from the labour party because the labour party isn't for the labourers anymore. They are too busy buddying up to the EU. Power is also up on average 600% compared to it's average price the last 15 years. Al because of the power cables to the EU.
00:06 Tåkefyrsten( in which translates to Duke Fog ) as a popular nickname does not make the task simple.
That said the 2 biggest parties in Norway appears to have the same common goal, hand off of the country's souvereignity.
Yeees this is true but sad also both of them hate the middel class and the bigwigs in both of them are utter clowns or prensiøse tullkuka in my dialect
Imagine being norwegian and considering plagiarisma a scandal for a government. I mean, here in portugal we had a minister taking advantage of the secret services to threat a civilian that had in his posession a work computer information that could make the minister look bad in TAP's massive scandal.
That minister was not fired.
Well it's obviously about the political culture people are used.
I'm basically most interested in American and German politics, partly also about the UK. And especially considering what is happening in us politics is just WILD compared to German politics, but Germans don't really realize how "lucky" we are with our scandals. I'm not saying we should be happy with the quality but I think if you compare it to other countries you have a better feeling for your own politics. And I think this applies to most societies, I mean, no wonder if you realize that most don't even follow their own politics that much, so obviously they don't follow foreign political devolpments. 4:32
Well, the education minister had copied/plagiarized most of her master's thesis, pretty clear why that's a scandal.
The failure of dealing with the electricity sales to other European nations is understated here. it is a hugely important issue for Norwegians, and Støre has done nothing about it. the short answer for why is that it massively screws up our internal energy markets, and this is important given how important electricity prices are for both households and industry.
that is undoubtedly a big part of Labour's decline. not that Høyre would do much more about it, but they benefit on this issue from not being in office at the moment.
The big problem with Norway’s current govt is its Statsminister is a multimillionaire from one of Norways wealthiest families, he has no idea how people actually live, ironically he’s also leader of Norways Labour Party.
The next issue is way too much immigration from the wrong countries and too many refugees. Norway needs to follow the Danish refugee model, where when the country they lived in is now safe they are returned home, that’s how refugee systems should work, it should not be refuge for life.
Really appreciate the well informed and non biased content.
This is indeed a tumultuous time for the Norwegian Government for many reasons. I believe one of the bigger reasons for the Labour Party’s decrease in popularity origins from their choice of words for the previous elections “For vanlige folk” - “For the common people.
Not the easiest motto when you face inflation, increasing food prices and living costs. The increase of unstable energy prices frustrate many Norwegians as we produce so much energy ourselves through oil and gas fields in the ocean and water craftworks in our rivers which there are plenty. We are self sufficient producers but still get slammed by the unstable energy market which does not make much sense.
Then you have all the many cabinet scandals happening repeatedly by the people we expect to be the “best of us” as they are indeed deciding our laws and system, if they can not abide to the rules, then why should the ordinary guy?
This hurts the loyalty of many Norwegians as they expect better and already have a high tax rate sponsoring the welfare system, and if that trust is being misused they naturally get disappointed.
About the younger generation going more right wing I think its a tendency due to the polarisation of these times with the left side of politics addressing the usual topics of climate change, pro immigration, feminism and LGBTQ , however not really addressing concerns and problems for many young men, which there are a plenty in Norway.
The right wing and especially the Progress Party have specifically reached out to this group, and then it is not so surprising that the party that takes your concerns seriously gets more votes.
Best wishes and a good day to all from a Norwegian in Germany
Oppressed young men in rich Norway where men run the country 😂😂😂 victim wannabe
Young men have no problems 😂 they’re privileged and make more money than women and aren’t being harmed by women, the other way around statistically in the world.
Misogynistic homophobic middle class white maIes are oppressed
Poor oppressed middle class white maIes😂😂😂
“Problems for young men”!😂😂😂😂
6:28 probably has something to do with them being more exposed to the issues that mass immigration brings. Older people can usually afford to live in more expensive areas that have less social issues. Guessing most work places have fewer immigrants than the schools.
For her to suggest it's due to "social media" is embarrassing.
@@edmerc92 It's also more complicated than just immigration. To say it's all about immigration is ignorant.
@Fernand-xg4il some immigration is great, mass immigration is not
There’s no mass immigration into Norway the number of migrants have been at a constant 30k for over a decade
Is it really a shift to the right? Or simply the rejection of a project which looked to scrap much of the past and replace it politics, ideologies and theocracies that don’t meet the expectations of reality ?
For many voters there has also been the growing contentious issue of immigration. Norway has been better than other European countries at integrating migrants into the country, but we have still taken in larger and larger groups of refugees ever since 2001.
Now with the Israel and Palestine conflict the labour party recently announced that they would take in more refugees than EVER before.
Many people, especially younger people are getting sick and tired of having to "flip the bill" by taking in refugees from wars on the other side of the world we had nothing to do with and in many cases we get spit in our face for our kindness since many of them don't respect our culture. Yet despite a large majority of people wanting stricter immigration policies they instead get looser than ever before. We have seen what happens in countries like France and Sweden when governments take in large swaths of migrants without thinking of the consequences or not integrating them correctly and we don't want that to happen here.
This is not exclusive to Norway since it is a lot worse in other European countries, it is happening across Europe and after 20+ years people have run out of sympathy for people that don't respect them.
It's absolutely clear why young people, especially men are voting right wing.If you're claiming it's not understood then you're just trying to feign ignorance for whatever reason.
ready for you to cite your sources whenever.
@@dVector13
Sources are ourselves, that's us we are talking about, why are you asking him for source lol.
We are voting right wing because too many left winger hate us (white men), which make us uncomfortable to vote for them.
Yes, not all left winger are like that, yes it's not what they really meant. But there is so many accounts of elected left winger publishing pure hatred against white men on social media, calling us r4pist, r4cist, privileged, etc... And when we try to confront them on their bigotry, they are like "white men tears" "white fragility", etc....
So yeah, F them.
@@dVector13it starts with an I and ends with an N, hope this helps!
The left have put women (especially non white ones) on a pedestal and promised to make society a utopia *for them*. The left have alienated young (especially white) men by doing this. The right saw this alienation and capitalised on it by promising to make society a utopia for young men. The fact that there’s a bit of a social stigma around right wing views (many of which are, or are considered to be, patriarchal, racist etc) probably doesn’t help either, as young men will interpret that as “society automatically against men” when it’s not necessarily the case
@@nathanspreitzer6738 Doesn't help me, can you spell it out completely?
must be nice to have these issues be the biggest thing going on
Norwegians have made incredible decisions on energy and investments since the 60s .. surprised they are not studied more
Trygg styring does not mean safe steering in this context. It means safe governance.
Several inaccuracies here. The fact is that after a historic left wave in 2021, there is a regression to the mean going on. It"s nearly 50/50. You left out 2 left wing parties in the balance: MDG, and R.
Grating sound of the jingle
The "cabinet scandals" in Norway are blown out of proportion. In other countries politicians having plagiarized 5-10 years ago would simply be ignored or swept under the rug, however Norwegians hold their politicians to the same level of accountability as themselves and thus they are forced to step down.
Truly refreshing to witness this from a Dutch standpoint. It's a simple narrative of a left-leaning bloc making way for a right-leaning one. Remarkably, the Netherlands hasn't seen a left government since the 70s. Instead, the prevailing conflict revolves around the right and extreme right factions. The public discourse seems to have spiraled beyond reason, posing a dire threat to democracy itself.
I cannot wait for this government to go...
Time to vote for the Liberal Party next year :)
@@languistno thanks 😑
@@lucaslyng2875 At least we both get good choices to pick; 9 parties across the spectrum that’ll fit our taste
@@languist9 flavours of social democracy
@@picardas1638 The only parties that are full-on social democracy ideologically are SV (left-wing) and Ap (centre-left).
Norway is one of the most underrated countries ngl
Overrated I'd say. Especially by Eastern European people that want to work abroad.
As a Swede, Norway is overrated and underhated.
@@NordicSupremacistyou’re not superior westerners teach you how to read and write
It really is. It's my dream to move there, and has been since I was little. I only wish it was easier to find resources for learning norwegian, because it's not like the netherlands where you don't really need to learn dutch.
People say anything is “underrated” these days. That word has lost all meaning. Even in Africa, we can’t stop hearing how Norway is heaven on earth and is the best country, which it obviously is. Everyone knows this 😂that’s not underrated
There's a lot of good journalism going on in Norway atm. Labour and Senterpartiet are just unfortunate to be ruling when it is happening. The former prime minister and current leader of the Conservative Party just went through a huge scandal where her husband had been trading companies she had been giving contracts to for more than ten years. But she's not in power now, so not much happened to her. Jonas Gahr Støre though, has been a surprisingly weak leader of both the Labour party and as a prime minister. He almost had a kind of rock star status when he was foreign minister. He filled that position very well. But now, whenever something happens. When everyone is looking to the prime minister for leadership. Mr. Støre is sitting there with us, waiting. I can't remember a single time when he cut through the noise and put things straight. He just waits until everyone else is screaming at him about what should be done. Then, after a bit... he acknowledges that gravity exists and orders the shit that hit the fan to fall down and form a puddle. The problem going forward for Labour is that most of the strong candidates to succeed him have been knocked out by some sort of scandal or just disillusionment. I've barely heard of half the people that are supposedly clawing their way to the top at the moment. They even tried to hunt down a retired fishery minister from her cabin up on the barren steppes of Northern Norway to get her back in the game. Apparently she hadn't done much wrong up there. But she wisely chose to stay retired. It's a bit of a mess, but a Norwegian mess. People will shake their heads and make serious faces while trying to sit still enough for the storm to pass. And with the next election over a year away and every scandal being interrupted by another scandal, who knows where we'll be by then?
One does not simply screw over the people and stay in power.
depends on the country lol.
it happens all the time
Why is 'shifting right' presented as a crisis?
… cause it’s disgusting.
It's not even presented like this in the video
@@katebradshaw9280you do realize folks like you are what’s wrong with this world
@@mladen5140 Read the comment above you and tell me again that's not the message that is being delivered.
@@alonbinyamin the comment isn't the video, the video is very neutral on the issue
Though all of these factors probably play a role, the major reason is probably the economic situation where they had to contend with massive inflation rise post-covid and the following interest increases at the same time as electricity prices exploded due to the war in Ukraine. A struggling economy is extra difficult to handle politically in Norway as there is plenty of money available, but which we ideally should not use in order to avoid Dutch Disease, inflation and an even bigger state (+ that it should be saved to deal with the coming demographic collapse Norway like most western countries will face in the cominc decades). It is a very difficult thing to communicate that there is money, but that we shouldn't use it, especially when the prime minister is famous for being quite vague, indecisive and a poor communicator.
Electricity prices skyrocketed because of political choices, where they doubled the export capabilities from Norway to EU. And when everyone and their grandmother could see how prices increased 20-fold basically within a week after the last export cable was built, the government doubled down and refused the cables had anything to do with it.
And they refuse to even discuss nuclear power plants, which pretty much any analysis made by anyone whos is the cleanest and most cost effective energy out there, beating vacuous windmill farms by a mile.
As a Norwegian im curious why ppl outside of norway is interested/curious about norwegian politics?
Find it intruiging
because many anti-EU right wingers across Europe want to accentuate euroscepticism so easy way to do this is to stir this in non-EU countries first (Norway, Switzerland and the UK)....so any election of right wing government in Norway and withdrawal from EEA will be a win for them....they are the same guys who accuse other parties of globalism but themselves have the best global network of funding and politicians working together across US, Europe and Russia....
some of the writing felt extremely sloppy at the start and "shifting to the right". felt like it was being repeated every 2 secs.
You always assume all young voters are pro-European, left wing liberals and socialists that agree with you. Perhaps they're just more able to think for themselves.
I think there´s a lack of critical thinking on all sides of the spectrum at times. People tend to have sacred cows that you can´t disagree with, for the hard/far right it´s immigration, you just can´t get those people to see the picture might be more nuanced than they think it is.
For hard Europhiles, they can´t get over the idea that maybe pushing further EU integration right now might have difficulties.
For regional nationalists, they can´t get over the idea that independence might have some negative consequences.
Liberals can´t get over the idea that maybe pushing more privatisation etc is doing a lot of social damage.
The left (and I am on the left) tend to underrate that we may have to make some difficult choices economically.
@@Letsthinkaboutit-mb7nnIslam is bad for Europe
Right wingers thinking their brain is very big. Colourised. If you have to tell yourself you can think for yourself it kinda looks akward... maybe socialists are better at thinking critically about the issues of capitalism?
This is so sad to me and I'm not even European.
There’s no “crisis” in Norway. The prime minister and the government leaders are maybe not fabulous, and we are hit by energy structural problems as most countries because of the war in Ukraine. The difference between the Right and Left parties are minimal. So if the shift towards The Right party is the crisis, well, the crisis goes on.
when you had to think of a new title just to excuse the left and right in 💀
The Right Wave Is Spreading
After a long period of forever left. Except that the current right wing would have been le ft wing 2 decades ago.
Norwegian right is your left
FYI the sami people are not indigenous to scandinavia as they arrived after the germanic peoples 5:50
That's irrelevant though. They were nomadic, as other Fenno-Ugric tribes. Now they are part of us, for good and for worse.
Let's try make it for the best, everyone, both sides, yeah?
(Not that I see major problems, just being preemptive here)
The whole europe is shifting towards right.
We're not 'shifting right', left and right take turns now every 4 years or so.
You don't quite know why the shift to right is happening? Have you actually considered you know... asking them? Or maybe you just don't like the answers and try to pretend they don't exist.
because they are not right-wing (in the Anglo-Saxon meaning), but in fact they are conservative socialists (left-wing conservative), almost all the "extreme right" parties in Europe are a kind of pseudo-communists, socialists party; they always beat the drum about the sufferings of the working proletariat and how oligarchs (globalists) steal money from honest people, who should rebel and take over the means of production. I've been there before! I heard the same slogans! down with globalists up with workers and all that....
tbh K. Marx predicted that the rising of the proletariat is inevitable, so it's quite funny to observe this phenomenon
We saw how these people acted when Andrew Tate blew up. Instead of understanding why young men flock to Andrew Tate and providing a more healthy alternative, they called them bigots, misogynists and sexists. Sadly nothing in the left can represent a masculine man and the establishment right is filled with simps and feminists, hence making young men radicalized.
Often not real issues like immigration are named. Which always makes me laugh at how naive people can be and think that that would be an issue.
The funny thing is Støre, like Scholz is already pretty conservative for his oarty, but has made nobody happy
Well but that's in my opinion at least for Scholz not the reason for his unpopularity. It's mainly bis bad communication skills, which often seems ignorant and that he doesn't take the population and their problems serious, and about his bad leadership. For the country itself and especially in conflicts in his coalition.
But I also saw the similarities.
@@benfischer6303both just seem boring and weak
Yes he is weak and scared to do anything good for the middel class that are close to 85 % of the working population.
@@ottar3402 Correct
The grop in the Krone has more to do with the interest rate differential between Norges Bank, FED and ECB not so much Støres leadership.
"Why Norway is shifting right"
Thumbnail: *Norway's political *Crisis**
Strange that she mentions the success of immigration restrictionist parties, but doesn't mention immigration directly as the cause for the shift to the right, despite that being the biggest issue in Europe right now, and not just right now, immigration has been the biggest issue in Europe most of the time for years now, and this will likely continue and increase in the future.
The fact is, many Europeans understand that third world immigration has been a disaster, they know that these immigrants have brought crime, terrorism, cultural incompatibility, and unproductivity, and that these things will probably only get worse. Now, Norway is not in as bad a demographic situation as Sweden or France, but Norway's situation is also not as good as Denmark, so Norway's youth, having experienced the third world in schools, understand the problem more, this is part of the explanation as to why young people are more likely to vote for immigration restrictionist parties.
Exactly.
Just one look at the numbers on basic places like wikipedia prove you wrong. Migrants are generally educated and are usually employed, and thus are producing value for the country. Not only this, migration has been decreasing since 2013 for norway overall. So norweigians are getting angry at something that is being addressed. Very sad how young norweigians are being tricked by right wingers.
@@dVector13
- Wikipedia is leftist dominated, with a huge bias on everything that might be seen as right winger talk, same as social academia, they are very bad sources. Official and raw studies from governments are better and less biased.
- Nobody are saying that migrants are uneducated.
- Migrants and especially migrants descent are less employed than natives.
- Since they are less employed and more with low wages, they are more a social burden than a net positive. You can check the official Danish numbers for that, which are best stats on migrant economic output. If they were net positive, then Europe would have seen more growth than USA or Japan/South Korea. But that's not the case. Quite the opposite.
- Even if migration is decreased it's effect is long term. Those affects are not always immediate.
You are tricked by left winger.
@@dVector13
You may not be aware that immigrants are listed as working in the statistics if they work one hour a week? Interpreting jobs for asylum seekers are not uncommon, so the value of the contribution to society can be debated for certain groups.
''Just one look at the numbers on basic places like wikipedia prove you wrong. Migrants are generally educated and are usually employed, and thus are producing value for the country.''
As A 3rd generation offspring from A Croatian migrant family, take it from me.
Just because something look good in statistics, doesn't mean it is.
The majority of non-European migrants here still haven't integrated or assimilated 3 generations later.
There are more migrants depending on the Belgian healthcare system than Native Belgians themselves.
The same thing with the prison system The majority of crime and prisoners are migrants and illegals (these are facts, not racism).
You are welcome to come to Molenbeek or Borgerhout in Belgium and I'll show you how educated and integrated these people really are when they are torching cars, attacking medics, randomly shooting at police from apartments, robbing, raping, throwing acid, grenade attacks, drug wars, grooming gangs, imposing religious laws on locals, extorting shops, etc.
electrified oil rig, what's nexts wind powered oil rigs? I can't understand how some people can get so arrogant, thinking all of us are idiots.
wind turbines and solar energy are already being used to fulfill the requirements of electricity consumption on oil rigs (ever since we invented offshore drilling rigs, it's more economical not to produce electricity with the product you want to sell, instead you use systems that have a high potential offshore, and leave the gas generators as a secondary measure)
There are two major ways to reduce Norways carbon emissions. #1 The first would be to lower actual local emissions in the country. This is "relatively" easy to accomplish (and oil industry emissions AKA oil rigs are the largest "single-point" emission sources in the entire country).
#2 The second would be to cut oil/gas production to eliminate all the downstream emissions that this production causes when oil/gas are burned around the world. This has massive implications for the Norwegian economy, labor, EU economy, national security and geo-politics, ect. and is very hard to do for a whole host of very good reasons that one could talk about. That's why they're focusing on #1 instead of #2. In reality it looks a bit weird / green-washy but it's not intended to be that way - it's just politics.
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Norway can simply include the Norwegian forest in the climate accounting, then the entire accounting will look different. Strange that people do not understand photosynthesis.
This title is sort of missleading since what we norwegians consider right wing is stil way more solidaric and socialistic then the left wing in USA.
I just turned 18 in norway and what I hear the most from young people around me is just that they think the taxes are too high and think the right will do something about it, as the right only appeal to the young through that.
There is a need for a Nordic version of Javeir Milei
No there is not lmao he is a disaster and a clown
Voted left in 21, will vote right in 25
it's a harsh thing to say, but Støre has the charisma of a stale loaf of bread - and his skills as a popular communicator are even worse. He seemed like a great foreign minister, but he's absolutely bombing as the face of the labor party and as a prime minister. I think this would have looked quite different if we had the likes of Mette Frederiksen leading the coalition.
I really like the subtle combination of tumbnail and title letting everybody know moving right is bad.
So you missed the number one reason ; Islam
or is it xenophobia?
@@fitzstv8506 Are you sure it's still possible to manipulate people by such name calling? I thought that when a few countries experience crime spike due to those policies backfiring this way of shaming people in to submission by some bs slogans is no longer effective.
Well, in Norway's case its maybe not the main reason.
@@Mosern1977 For the young people voting right? It probably is. They have lived multiculturalism in school, and know what it means to be put at the back of the queue with the Norwegian media and politicians.
@@fitzstv8506 I would call that self-preservation, but you do you.
5:37 that is one of the most ludicrous and blatant examples of greenwashing I’ve ever heard, it’s genuinely almost charming
The video misses the main issue, electricity prices. Due to integration into the EU market with more cables to the UK and Germany the demand for norwegian stable ekectric power, the price has skyrocketed. In a cold country where most of the heating is based on electricity this destroys the houshold's economy. The current government has no solution to fix this. They are also like most politicians pro EU membership, so they will implement whatever package the EU throws at them.
This is clearly the elephant in the room.
We dont have that increase in the northern part of noway but that ectrifying og melk øya / that gass plant WILL make that so and will crush the norteren norwgians more than those in the south due to 2 month longer winter and a colder winter aswell . I yust wanted to add
“Something ture is similar in Norway” 😂