I don’t know wheather to laugh or cry when you hear that the RUC were an ‘impartial and nonsectarian’police force, and that the army used ‘minimum force’. If I’m not mistaken this was one of the most turbulent periods of the conflict when people’s houses were being smashed to pieces by the Army, innocent civilians being rifled down in the streets, internees being tortured and beaten. The RUC seem to be complaining towards the end of the clip about how hard their job had become in the province, maybe if they hadn’t have gone in as heavy handed 3 years earlier wielding their batons and smashing the skulls of civil rights marchers things could have been different. They brought their troubles upon themselves
Ordinary young lad didn't believe this could happen until he experienced it. RUC and army were cruel and frustrated cause they knew they shouldn't have been there. Older men now they must have dread over how they carried out their duty.
To all of you who are affected and touched by the troubles my heart goes out to you and I apologize from the depths of my soul on behalf of the other human beings who hurt you I am so so so so sorry that this had to happen
Prisoners should not have been mistreated, but people involved in illegal activity on both sides needed to be locked up, I would suggest a prison farm or working in a prison factory or community work programs would be suitable, not isolated torture.
Graham Watts the point about internment was that people were held without trial. So they weren’t guilty of being involved in anything. Or don’t you believe in due process and the rule of law.
During this time a total of 1,981 people were interned: 1,874 were from an Irish nationalist background, while 107 were from a unionist background. It was a sectarian round up, and a failed one at that. It only made the IRA more popular and driven.
So this was in 1971 i was amazed to hear on this that the RUC was unarmed i wonder how long that lasted i'd say within months they where rearmed after the short disarmament.
The people of the north should form a government of their own without the English government getting involved the people need to work together to sort out the north of Ireland
I would hate to know is just how many of these people who are interned under false pretenses completely innocent of any crimes that could in a stretch justify some of the milder treatment they were subjected to but what could justify the atrocities the maltreatment the trauma brought upon countless innocents. It's just a crying shame how much ruthless and cruel suffering was brought upon an innocent people wanting nothing more than what belong to them by right. Men women children suffered and died at the hands of a cruel and heartless regime of the power and the might of the imperialist machine My heart bleeds for the people who suffered the troubles and I weep for the scars and the trauma that this illegal and unjust I cry for all the poor children 😭
Interesting that the reporter went so far as to call the internees "political prisoners" even though the British government never admitted that. Usually UK media outlets at the time were much less critical of state forces and their actions.
At 03:02 you see Patrick Shivers father of Brian Shivers. Brian Shivers and Colin Duffy allegedly did the Masserene attack in which two British soldiers were shot dead and two others seriously injured and two pizza delivery drivers where also wounded. It happened on the 7th of March 2009. Colin Duffy was released as a remand prisoner but Brian Shivers was given life imprisonment but was released after a year because the courts found that the forensic evidence wasn't strong enough and it was unsafe to hold him in prison he has the life threatening condition Cystic fibrosis and is now 54 years old.
I offered Rosata a fair dig in the 1970s, I was a prod from Ballysillan, he ran away and shit himself. rosata is a nutcase and it’s not his real name…..his name is Liam from ardoyne
The amount of footage and description of the event that AP has is invaluable to the right people, thank you.
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I don’t know wheather to laugh or cry when you hear that the RUC were an ‘impartial and nonsectarian’police force, and that the army used ‘minimum force’. If I’m not mistaken this was one of the most turbulent periods of the conflict when people’s houses were being smashed to pieces by the Army, innocent civilians being rifled down in the streets, internees being tortured and beaten. The RUC seem to be complaining towards the end of the clip about how hard their job had become in the province, maybe if they hadn’t have gone in as heavy handed 3 years earlier wielding their batons and smashing the skulls of civil rights marchers things could have been different. They brought their troubles upon themselves
They stopped an illegal parade , just doing their job
They attacked the public the soldiers did rong
Ordinary young lad didn't believe this could happen until he experienced it. RUC and army were cruel and frustrated cause they knew they shouldn't have been there. Older men now they must have dread over how they carried out their duty.
By the end of 71 they were re-armed
To all of you who are affected and touched by the troubles my heart goes out to you and I apologize from the depths of my soul on behalf of the other human beings who hurt you I am so so so so sorry that this had to happen
I don't half miss the good old days
4:44 Second soldier from the right, looks like he's doin a bit of a march, is he shouting "c'mon Paddy!" in a Scottish accent?
yep, he's your typical big mouth
What an Arsewipe
How interesting it was for me to discover that Ulster is a country. Fascinating.
Wouldn't be lovely to see all the people standing together and forming a government of their own the English is not needed in the north of Ireland
I wonder what happened to the student at the start Tony Rosoto.
‘You want a United ireland, why should anyone believe you’ 😒😒 what a sad sad time
the "ALLEGATIONS" shared by these victims is just a very small snippet of the horrors and trauma brought upon them
The narrator uses the word allegation, it almost undermines and negates the horrors and atrocities suffered by so many
Prisoners should not have been mistreated, but people involved in illegal activity on both sides needed to be locked up, I would suggest a prison farm or working in a prison factory or community work programs would be suitable, not isolated torture.
Graham Watts the point about internment was that people were held without trial. So they weren’t guilty of being involved in anything. Or don’t you believe in due process and the rule of law.
During this time a total of 1,981 people were interned: 1,874 were from an Irish nationalist background, while 107 were from a unionist background. It was a sectarian round up, and a failed one at that. It only made the IRA more popular and driven.
So this was in 1971 i was amazed to hear on this that the RUC was unarmed i wonder how long that lasted i'd say within months they where rearmed after the short disarmament.
The people of the north should form a government of their own without the English government getting involved the people need to work together to sort out the north of Ireland
Tell me you know nothing about N Ireland without telling me you know nothing about N Ireland
Ta ar la ag teacht ✊
It isn’t 😂
I would hate to know is just how many of these people who are interned under false pretenses completely innocent of any crimes that could in a stretch justify some of the milder treatment they were subjected to but what could justify the atrocities the maltreatment the trauma brought upon countless innocents.
It's just a crying shame how much ruthless and cruel suffering was brought upon an innocent people wanting nothing more than what belong to them by right.
Men women children suffered and died at the hands of a cruel and heartless regime of the power and the might of the imperialist machine
My heart bleeds for the people who suffered the troubles and I weep for the scars and the trauma that this illegal and unjust
I cry for all the poor children 😭
Interesting that the reporter went so far as to call the internees "political prisoners" even though the British government never admitted that. Usually UK media outlets at the time were much less critical of state forces and their actions.
At 03:02 you see Patrick Shivers father of Brian Shivers. Brian Shivers and Colin Duffy allegedly did the Masserene attack in which two British soldiers were shot dead and two others seriously injured and two pizza delivery drivers where also wounded. It happened on the 7th of March 2009. Colin Duffy was released as a remand prisoner but Brian Shivers was given life imprisonment but was released after a year because the courts found that the forensic evidence wasn't strong enough and it was unsafe to hold him in prison he has the life threatening condition Cystic fibrosis and is now 54 years old.
Paul Dunne the operative word being ‘allegedly’.
@@MsColl90 True!
Aye and he’s been out running about !
‘TOUT’ springs to mind , say as Duffy stuff he’s got away with
I offered Rosata a fair dig in the 1970s, I was a prod from Ballysillan, he ran away and shit himself. rosata is a nutcase and it’s not his real name…..his name is Liam from ardoyne
Good skills !
Yous didn’t get lifted for nothing
Come on Tony.."let’s meet up
Usual Catholic keek