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Getting a half a million-dollar book deal and not publishing the book because, "it wouldn't be about me," is one of the most self-centered things I've ever heard.
Not to mention it’s a complete lie, at least the part about her having any creative integrity. During the Snake Oil skin care she bragged about doing jobs she didn’t actually believe in just to get money. The fact is she wants to coast through life doing a minimal amount of labor with the maximum amount of money and attention.
The fact they were friends for such a short amount of time is... In some ways it makes me pity Caroline. She's had so few close relationships that her harping on about this one... It's just sad.
@@annamelvina216yeah but its clear to me that its her own fault. She seems like a terrible friend and nasty person, had she just been a little more considerate of others she would have flourished socially
she has also moved the narrative around a lot over the years, and she would often conflate her dad dying with Natalie's article, as in, "i was upset about this article coming out so i was dismissive when my dad called and then he died right after and it was kind of Natalie's fault"
My brain hurts when she thinks she got into Cambridge on her own academic merit compared to someone else with true academic merit and then also says she faked her grades...help me understand.
It seems like she separates herself from this “character” she claims to have taken on for the sake of her non-existent first book. It’s just another way not to take full accountability. She was trying to curate a persona but fails to realize once you start living that persona non-stop and enact actual harm on people, that’s not a character you made up. That’s a real person and the real person you were (and are-she just hasn’t gotten far enough to recognize that yet lol).
She's the special kind of dense you only get from people who are born into immense privilege, she has the unique form of narcissism and laissez faire attitude that only comes from being completely shielded from regular concerns and consequences. To anyone who hasn't spent decades around the kind of wealth that is truly unimaginable to behave like that, but her actions are hardly unique or even especially heinous.
That's (not very subtle) doublespeak for "I paid someone else to write this for me, silently and then edited it to sh1t myself so I could say I did something here"... I would not be surprised to find out she even used AI to write :'D
she has the same mindset i had when i was 8. i also wanted to be a famous author, but then i realized i didnt like writing and those arent exactly compatible, so i dropped that dream. i guess she never grew out of that phase.
@@heatherb9588well something like that is pretty hard to prove or disprove. She would have had to state the names of every charity she donated to and said charities would have be willing to disclose their donors publicly. I understand him not wanting to waste his time and just give her the benefit of the doubt.
@@heatherb9588 yeah I would have loved him to question this part because he doesn’t mention her actually providing any evidence that she donated anything. She probably considers herself a charity case and selflessly donated to herself
it’s so satisfying to know that i truly did NOT know who this scammer was. and she really thought her image and likeness was worth $1m to netflix?? the DELUSION
that's what got me! haven't read it but the disparity between Natalie writing a nuanced essay about body image and gender dysphoria and Caroline being fatphobic, queerphobic, racist... there's too much wrong to unpack
And then claiming that she suffers special, especially bad misogyny for being "thin and pretty". Does she think that calling other women ugly and fat isn't spiteful misogyny itself?
It's disgusting how obsessed she is with trying to make Natalie look bad in all the ways that she can, even if it's completely irrelevant. I mean she wrote a whole paragraph about her weight and tried to claim it wasn't out of fatphobia when we all know she hates Natalie and is itching at any way to make her seem unlikable. And the way she talked about her SA was fcking degeneracy that goes beyond the normal type of hate that an ex best friend would feel.
It’s incredibly disgusting and upsetting. She somehow wants to convince people that she’s a good person but there’s a ton of video and written evidence of her being insanely cruel to Natalie.
I cannot get over how often she referred to herself as a writer, talked about the legacy of her writing, talked about staying true to her artistic vision, when she literally HAD NOT WRITTEN A SINGLE WORD.
Delulu. Straight up prophetic talking with no back up. This is why she believed it so hard, is cause she KEPT TALKING about it instead of doing. the. Thing.
@@louibeansAnd she got help for this from Natalie, so barely even that. I hesitate to call myself a writer because I don't write outside of my writing classes, but she doesn't have this kind of consideration, clearly.
She didn't want to write a book that wasn't about heeeer!!! Come on now, can't you see how painful it is for her to do something that's not completely about her 100% of the time?
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 Yeah but not throughout her whole time doing this. She did write some stuff, even if it's not a lot and even if we can criticize her rightfully for the context of her writing and for the things connected to it.
it was a subtle tip-off to her crescendo of narcissism lowkey. who dreams of being a memoirist?? her, because she could only envision writing about herself
I literally GASPED at the passage where she asks her professor if she's a better writer than Natalie and her professor tells her "I thought you knew all along." The fact that her vendetta with Natalie runs so deep that she literally wrote wattpad level fanfiction of a professor telling her verbatim that she's better than Natalie is INSANE, absolutely WILD. I had to pause the video and process it. This woman is in her 30s
Something I didn’t realize at the time: an average page of a book contains 250-500 words. 20,000 words is equivalent to 40-80 pages. She wrote a 40-80 page response to Natalie.
Caroline’s sexual obsession with Natalie is by far the most disturbing aspect of this whole debacle. Sleeping with a man that looked like Natalie? TURNED ON by Natalie’s sexual assault? REENACTING IT WITH HER BF LATER?? That knocked the breath right out of me. Unbelievable.
I commented the same thing! It seems so disrespectful and blasé, as if the questions are all so pedestrian and beneath her, she can barely muster up the energy to give a single eff about any of it.
There’s something so wild about her saying “the book I never wrote would not have stayed true to my artistic vision.” Caroline, you’re not a writer if you don’t write.
No book is going to stay true to an artistic vision anyways. Like as a writer, what you imagine in your head will always be more perfect than what ends up on the page
She's a legend in her own mind. Not to mention a creepy stalker. If I was Natalie, I'd be seriously alarmed for my wellbeing. Imo, Caroline is a deeply disturbed individual.
you’ve heard of emily in paris, now get ready for caroline in cambridge 😭😂 god it’s unbelievable to think this person is REAL and not a badly written and portrayed netflix original character
Super on brand of her. Her college boyfriend begged her several times to stop talking about him. She even stalked his next girlfriend and claimed that this man’s new girlfriend made a fake fan account to stalk Caroline
Caroline is just SO self-obsessed and delusional that the reality of Natalie being a seriously regarded and *professionally* published author has driven her (even more) insane. She has spent so long equating being "someone who lived a life worth writing about" with being an actual talented and accomplished writer, that someone as "mundane" as Natalie having legitimate success while she's, at best, a self-published freakshow, seriously broke her brain.
constantly tracking what someone's doing and spreading malicious rumours about them online are literally known methods/aspects of stalking. if she isn't already legally considered a stalker, she's damn near close. (iirc it falls pretty in line with how the rejected & resentful stalker archetypes act) it's genuinely scary at this point - like holy shit just move on and let natalie LIVE
Holy shit, I'm going through the comments after finishing the vid and I literally forgot that. AND the fact her momma subbed to her OF. God is dead and we killed him.
Yes! Especially the beautiful blonde lady with her hair pulled back- I’m not sure that wasn’t eventually just a still shot of her that she put up so that she could leave the interview while Caroline was blathering on like a fool.
This! I was thinking the same thing as I listened to her speak and then noticed the interviewers dead eyes as the video goes on 😂 they HATED speaking with her and hearing her self absorbed fantasies
1:06:08 Hearing this line, particulary "only 4 people... 4 people ... complained... to the US government ✨💅" said in the tone of a brag, was a genuinely surreal experience.
To the best of my knowledge, not a single person has ever complained about me to the US government! I guess by Caroline Calloway’s standards, that makes me eligible for sainthood or the Nobel Peace Prize or something…
It is PEAK irony that the only time I ever felt sympathy for Caroline was while reading Natalie's article. She did a better job humanizing Caroline than the woman herself has ever done.
Because Caroline tried so damn hard to make herself look perfect that she just comes off as...Well not human at times and just a character in a book trying to be the MC of the world
I'd say D'Angelo did it well too. He just had to find multiple half soundbites to eke out any thoughts behind and then filter through his own beautiful brain to make meaning. Performance art!
I’m obsessed with the way the interviewers in every clip are just sitting in silence, and occasionally nodding their heads with their eyes completely glazed
I know. She's doing so well and it's great because she didn't have to -perhaps lie about having had to- fake grades to get into a pristigeous international school, fake an internet presence, fake a personality, fake not having developed an addiction, fake being a writer, fake having multiple crises of poverty, fake needing federal protection from paying rent, fake being an It Girl, and then fake being a memoirist by useing the audience built off the original fake audience to sell a memoir that was apparently fake edited. Natalie did the one thing the NYU professor told Caroline to do, the one thing Caroline has all along, for some reason, made every excuse not to do: write. With no family fortune, no celebrity/influencer status, no real life Gossip Girl train wreck of a life story, and no Cambridge fairytale degree, Natalie simply wrote a book and sold it. (I know Caroline technically sold hers but self-publishing doesn't count when a decent number of the buyers don't ever even recieve the book.) It's easy to tell exactly who is on whose mind when they lay down to sleep every night. 😂
I am a self-published author, and the idea of Caroline physically printing, binding, and distributing the book herself is insane to me. Literally no one does this
Many years ago, I came across someone else who legitimately did this! He wrote, bound, and distributed his book. It was on the conspiracy theory of the moon landing being faked… but hey, he’s another one
As a Black girl who had to study nights in order to achieve the extra grades for my conditional offer at Cambridge, I am very glad I have never heard of this person. How enraging.
Hey, congratulations! A Cambridge offer is huge (context for scrollers: Cambridge sees A Level grades as a very good predictor of future success. So you have to not only get all As in whatever standardised tests you take at around 18, you have to get VERY HIGH As. I actually didn't apply to Cam because my marks weren't high enough, and I got all As and A*s. It's scary!)
@@isabellamorris7902 Thank you! It was hard but I am glad to have achieved it. And yes, you're spot on with your commentary. I was predicted 3 As at A-Level and Cambridge said I had to TAKE AN EXTRA COURSE AND ACHIEVE 4 A*s....which I eventually did. I would literally have 5 minutes to eat dinner over the sink after college and then my dad would drive me to my night course 3x a week. People like this Cambridge cosplayer are SO insulting to those of us who worked for it.
@@bouncyshak if I never have to hear the phrase "UMS" ever again, I will be happy... The sad thing is that it sounds like CC's eventual offer was legit. She could have done SO MUCH with that education plus the privileges afforded to her by her parents, and her obsessive-level drive
@@isabellamorris7902 Well if she forged her transcripts then it wasn't. The UCAS system in the UK fed my results directly to Cambridge but I'm certain that a scam like the one she described may have been possible with international students in the 2010s. Cambridge is traditional in every sense, and that includes their admin. She most definitely took that slot from someone more deserving.
I am confident that I put more time in some of my fanfic chapters than she did her entire book. And fic readers can be a thankless bunch, she would never be able to handle the pressure of people wanting more. Her page would be a graveyard of dozens of abandoned works
I mean I get her point that women's work often isnt given a chance or taken seriously unless it is sxuaI because of patriarchy. That is absolutely true. but her sentiment just doesnt apply to her lol the reason people didnt appreciate her other work is because it didnt exist, her legacy is just being a scammer
@botanicalitus4194 I feel like she really doesn't care about the point or actually pointing out issues. She's just jumping on the bandwagon to make herself more sympathetic. Like how you can you blame patriarchy for thus but also purposely decide to dress as underaged characters in your onlyfans?
Hearing about people like this makes me REALLY mad at myself. Shame is definitely holding me back. If I was shameless and blasé enough, i could probably get a couple hundred thousand too 😭
I'm literally 10 minutes in and this woman is already completely insufferable. There are no castles in cambridge! What in the teaboo nonsense is she talking about?!
I was literally thinking during the early Cambridge segment "this woman is a weaboo for England" and you've come up with the perfect word for it. Or maybe it already existed. I didn't check lol
As an Ivy League grad, I was IMMEDIATELY cured of my imposter syndrome the second I was in rooms with “big wigs” who were complete imbeciles. I quickly realized certain people traverse through the world on the backs of smart, hard-working, competent, imposter-syndrome-ridden folks. Rooting for you!! You got this 💪🏽
@@MillennialMcGuyver for reeeaaaaal. It's like two types of people at prestigious schools: the people who just wanna benefit from the prestige socially, and those who take advantage of the resources that make the school prestigious in the first place 🙄
BRO GETTING INTO CAMBRIDGE IS HARD AS BALLS AND SOMETHING I COULD NEVER DO And it's not like I'm bad at school or anything. I got 5's on every AP Exam I took (which was many) and high ACT score. I just didn't have the motivation or skill to maintain a 3.5+ GPA. Not like it matters, I wanted to pursue animation out of all things and got into a really decent and selective school for it in the end. Irregardless, be proud of your hard work because you deserve it! They accepted you out of the tens of thousands of applicants because you had merits they didn't. You made the cut because of your own skills, hard-work and commitment to the school. That's metal af! People will always be better, sure, but that is inevitable. If anything, you should befriend the people you compare yourself to and steal all their knowledge for yourself (unlike Caroline Calloway who just steals people's money lol) . That's what college is all about anyway. To learn and vanquish your mortal enemies. The only things that matter is that you got accepted for a reason, and that you graduate. That's it. At my school, we don't say "your art is good" or "wow, you drew that so much better than I did." We say: "I want to eat that." You know why? It means we want to consume whatever skills that artists has and share our own like sharing a meal.
Okay but like...cosplaying as Dolores Hayes, the 12 year old victim of rape and abuse at the hands of her step-father, for fucking OnlyFans is so unbelievably disgusting.
Also I might be misremembering but I don't think Dolores lived to be 28 ETA in the book. I have no idea about the actual person the story is inspired by
Honestly, it's better if she didn't do it just to get back at caroline, her being indifferent towards Caroline is so much of a better karma than her doing stuff on purpose. @@TheTinaBelcher
She blocked me for saying that shrimp wasn’t vegan one time edit: i did not expect anyone to see this so sorry for no context lol!! this was years ago (maybe 2018 ish) and she was temporarily vegan. i was following her at the time because i was fascinated by her whole deal. at time she was constantly talking about being vegan but then posted herself eating shrimp and at the time it pissed me off that she was like cosplaying as a vegan so i messaged her saying essentially that. took me a while to notice after but she blocked me immediately lol. good stuff!
It’s so weird to hear someone talk about being a student in a foreign country and complaining about $36,000 a year tuition when I’m going to a state funded school as an instate resident for $30,000 a year Furthermore, to hear someone complain about issues like poverty, the patriarchy, etc. when- they do have the right to complain, but- they are actively taking advantage of those systems and other people for their own gain and making choices which empower others to take advantage of THEM is mind boggling. Well, not really mind boggling since it happens so often. It’s uncomfortable to comprehend.
That fake quote from the professor absolutely killed me. The fact that she thought she could get away with that low key slander of her professor twice is hilarious.
@@krixkhaos Wait, is this the same account that was running around accusing everyone of being friends with Dan Schneider a couple of weeks ago? OMG it is 🤣 They got a new schtick!
@@rorzoi the fact that she didn’t think about how he’d react to that. He was so professional in the response so good for him… but I’d be mad. Slagging off your students to other students is such a bad look.
caroline’s obsession with natalie is UNHINGED and beyond concerning. i feel like she’s using natalie as a scapegoat for EVERYTHING that she dislikes/that goes wrong in her life. genuinely kinda scared for natalie tbh :/
No seriously, if anyone needs narcissistic injury, narcissistic rage or smear campaigns defined, we just need to clip that part of the video for them. It's why people have to be so careful about revealing what's behind their masks. They won't stop. At the rate she's going, if she doesn't get some help to even begin to have some insight into her behavior, instead of "Rosebud" she's gonna be whispering "That b*ch Natalie" on her deathbed 😬
Seriously!! And the fact that she said "Oh Natalie is misogynistic cause she played into the trope of pretty equals dumb and ugly equals smart" like WHAT and she starts talking about her weight in such a disgusting way 😳 also if one of my ex-friends lied about a professor telling her that she was better than me, I would be SEETHING
I read about this lady in the New Yorker years ago and forgot about it until I saw her name just now and it all came back. The New Yorker wrote a follow up last year and called her 'an agent of chaos'... Accurate lol
I don’t know the context but “growing up, being young” is a perfectly fine thing to say verbally. Saying things twice like this is pretty normal and helps the receiving party better understand you.
@@Username0467it is confusing on page. By young is she immature, naive, sheltered??? Everyone is young in age when growing up. “Young” next to growing up is not emphasizing that she was young in years - it adds nothing and if anything is so redundant it pulls the reader out from the text
to be completely honest with you: she literally is just me when I was 13 and thought I was the best writer ever despite not actually writing anything of worth except i had friends and family who pulled me back from that and i went to therapy to fix my mental health issues a d i earnestly hope Caroline is able to do the same one day. girlie you need help.
It's always a good sign when an up-and-coming author drops a line that shows that they've never read a book before. Like, would you want to watch a movie from a director who goes on interviews talking about how no one has ever made a movie about superheroes before, and we're really breaking new ground here
Fanfiction isn't necessary. There are a lot of acclaimed or just like.....well-written series with female protagonists. The underlying part is, "I want people to read about a girl IN A BOOK AS FAMOUS AS HARRY POTTER". It's purely about fame and profit.
@@anonuser1279 nah, the person you’re replying to is a spammer and a troll who posts these types of comments all over youtube and has some weird one-sided beef with a youtube channel that hasn’t posted in 7 years
@@esobelisk3110 Oh he's one of those. I've seen those on TH-cam recently but mainly in the comments where they'll post something ridiculous or act like a suck up to the creators they're commenting on. Grifters lol.
Did you miss the part at the start of the video where she basically claims she invented alternate storyline’s occurring at different time periods 😭😭 she thinks she can write a masterpiece but she spends all her time boasting about writing. Writers speak through writing, not aloud lol
the only way she actually donated to charity is if she heard someone say donating was a "tax write off" and she didn't know what it meant and thought she'd get it back lmao
Yeah lmao, her casually saying she donated it "to charity" was probably her giving it to some org that's technically a nonprofit but not doing anything worthwhile as a write-off. If she had actually given tens of thousands of dollars to like, an actual organization like, providing meals for hungry kids there's nooooo way she wouldn't have milked that shit.
I like how she’s like “ ugh 🙄 it’s stupid that people would pay for my OF more than they’d pay to read my actual writing stupid patriarchy!!” WHAT WRITING.
I know!!! Girl, YOU made the OnlyFans! The patriarchy didn’t make her dress up as underage characters for money, SHE chose this- She knows full well why people pay more for those pictures than her books-
Also as soon as she said that I was like..........hm. Odd that you don't delete your incredibly lucrative OF for some reason then, if it bothers you so much that your titty pics sell better than........your unpublished books....
I imagine it was a combination of the semi-fame of her instagram, her calling around asking to be interviewed, and the interviewers having a bit of a dry spell.
There are so many interviews with her because podcasts are an epidemic 😂. I miss the time in life when we weren't exposed to everyone's thoughts and life styles 24/7.
Just the fact that Natalie, who she worked with for 6 whole months, was her "best friend" for some period of time is likely a fascinating rabbithole in itself.
the fact that caroline is SO obsessed with natalie but then natalie is basically like, "i dont think of you at all." *chefs kiss* poetry. i just know thats feeding caroline's rage even more
Natalie simply met a garbage human and recounted her experience and that was where it ended for her. Caroline was forced into her villain arc, of course it'd occupy her mind on a regular basis.
Sidebar: Does anyone know if she's been diagnosed with ADD or ADHD? I'm 1 hour and 10 minutes into this video and her life sounds surprisingly like mine. Sounds like she suffers from SEVERE ADHD, like I do. Maladaptive daydreaming, being handed multiple once-in-a-lifetime opportunities and letting them slip through fingers not because your work was bad, but rather because you did not even being the work. When Natalie said, "Caroline counted down the days until she missed her book deadline" that shook me because... that has happened to me all throughout highschool, my young adult life, my middle aged life...... and it's been extremely embarrassing and damaging to people around me BUT... it's like a paralytic thing. I'll sit there PARALYZED and be stressed about the deadline and do nothing about it. I'll nap stressfully, stare at the wall stressfully, watch TV whilst not paying attention due to stress, and I will literally watch the hours of the day, and the days until the deadline count down. Without me even STARTING the project. These are projects that I was passionate about, and had amazing ideas for. And I had the skills to blow expectations out of the water. BUT.... I was always paralyzed. They say it's linked to a Perfectionist problem. I don't know how, but that's what I read. In highschool, I would even help my friends write their papers if they seemed overwhelmed, but I wouldn't write my own. When I was 32, I learned that I have BED (binge-eating disorder) I started taking Vyvanse, prescribed by a physician who has an eating-disorder practice. BOY did I become productive. The medicine worked... a little too well. I was on the lowest possible dose of Vyvanse (30 mg) and I was straight up "limitlessing" like Bradley Cooper. I was suspicious of how my life changed in literally 1 month. I became a new person. I continued researching my disorder (BED) and my medicine (Vyvanse). Turns out, Vyvanse is also a medication for ADHD. I researched ADHD... facepalmed myself... because everything I was reading about ADHD was every single terrible trait I had. I spoke with my eating disorder doctor. She was agreed I probably had ADHD, and she WAS qualified to diagnose a Patient with ADHD but she said she'd rather have a psychiatrist formally assess and diagnose me. I did that. Was formally diagnosed with severe ADHD in my 30's. And dude..... I'm not perfect.... but I'm 1000x more productive than I ever was before. I get shit done. People rely on me. I WANT to clean my house. I WANT to finish projects. I WANT to work on my businesses and make money AND FOLLOW-THROUGH for my customers. ------ I know Caroline's got other gross stuff in her life, like the cat thing, and obsession with her ex-bff Natalie.......... but everything in regards to her being a flake, an eternal planner and never-doer, talking and over-explain as much as she does, did I mention being a flake?, hopping from 1 side-hustle to the next, and constantly apologizing for broken promises, losing fantastical career opportunities handed to her on a silver platter, being CRAZY irresponsible with money, stressfully watching the clock run tick away until it hits the deadline instead of WORKING................................................................
I just googled it. She was "recreationally" taking Adderral (an ADHD medicine) which is one of the worst ones you can take because you can get 'high' off of them. You can take more than you're supposed to and "limitless" even harder. You can't do that with Vyvanse. Adderral is a "fast-acting" ADHD medication so you limitless hardcore for a couple of hours. And eventually it even stops working on you, so you have to take more and more. And when you stop, the crash (psychologically, physically) is apparently like coming off hard drugs. It's really bad for you. But Vyvanse is a SLOW-acting ADHD medication, that makes you limitless calmly for 12-14 hours. And you can't get high on Vyvanse because you can't like.. snort it. Or whatever. Vyvanse doesn't go straight into the blood-stream. It gets digested by some enzyme in your intestines and then gets slowly absorbed into your blood from there. You feel the medicine kick-in after 1 hour, but not a RUSH. It's just... suddenly you have motivation. For 14 hours. That's it. So even if Caroline HAS undiagnosed ADHD and she accidentally was treating it with illegally with Adderrall that wasn't prescribed to her.... then she's still basically got untreated ADHD. She needs to be formally assessed by a Psychiatrist or PhD Psychologist and needs to try a slow-acting ADHD med. Not fast-acting. I have no idea who fast-acting Adderral is for because that medicine leaves nothing but dumpster-fires and broken brains in it's wake. People legit get diagnosed with depression for the first time in their life DUE TO STOPPING Aderral. Jesus Christ. Stay away from Adderal, people.
@@Lee-fw9mr Please don't do stuff like this. Like I know it's popular on the internet to just speculate on stuff like this when a person does things wrong, but it's truly inappropriate. Not to mention irrelevant. Just. Don't? Well intentioned or not it's just a huge overstep in general. We're all random strangers here. Caroline does enough uncomfortable boundary pushing herself so let's just not. Like in the most polite way I can say this: it's inappropriate.
@@Infern0z2 Here we go. Here comes the illogical one who says a bunch of stuff without actually saying anything at all. ------ @Infern0z2 Are you saying it's inappropriate for me to speak on how her life is eerily similar to mine? Are you saying it's inappropriate for me to share my experience with the internet and share how many aspects of her history align so closely to mine? Is Generation Z (or your) the arbiter of when it's appropriate to give an opinion on a youtube channel comment section, and when it IS inappropriate? Is it your job to police people's free speech? So many commenters here are commenting PRECISELY on Caroline's psychology, freely DIAGNOSING her, and branding her a narcissist, a psychopath, a sociopath. Yes, those are psychological diagnoses. But when I comment on her psychology in a constructive way, rather than a hateful/mean way.... you tell me not to? Are you normally this illogical and hypocritical or is today just a special day? Who exactly are you to gate keep my experience? Who are you police the comment section at all. I'm doing less harm than 99% of the other commenters here, but instead of preaching to them, you preach to me about inappropriate. Tell you what, when you reply to every single hateful comment here which freely diagnosis Caroline with severe psychological disorders..... then you'll have a leg to stand on. Until then, you're just a giant and unfair hypocrite 🤷♀ I don't take the advice of hypocrites.
Caroline: "I turned in essays that weren't good or weren't even done" Also Caroline: "My professor told me I'm a better writer than this other person" Sure, Jan.
Nah she just has incredibly high standards so her worst is still pulitzer prize worthy. /s Though I suppose at this point it is fair to say that unfinished or rushed work is her style so at least she has found that.
you've got a point but actually the first quote is about the cambridge stuff and the second is still new york. though I can't imagine she was doing much there either
THAT EVICTION MORATORIUM WAS FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME A SINGLE MOM WHOSE HOME HEALTHCARE PATIENT PASSED FROM COVID LEAVING ME JOBLESS MID PANDEMIC AND MY RENTAL COMPANY STILL GOT AWAY WITH IMMEDIATELY ILLEGALLY EVICTING ME AND MY SON. We lost everything and had to live in our car. And our only family died during this period. We are still struggling now. So F Caroline and I wish Natalie all the best.
LMAO right? i don't really write books myself, i prefer writing fanfiction, but i *write* fanfiction. i don't *make* fanfiction because it doesn't sound like it's for me. the way caroline speaks about how she wants to "make" a book is so concerning to me. it sounds like it's about her rather than for her.
@@1800PAlNexactly! even if it’s just phrasing, it really feels like she wants the book (and accompanying acclaim) to manifest itself without the actual *writing* part
Went into the comments to see if someone pointed this out. It's either "making" or "producing" a book, never writing it. Not to mention it seems like she only talks about writing and almost never actually does it. And i just love the fact that Natalie just went and published a thought out book and this weirdo college friend of hers still claims that everything is about her. Yes, of course Caroline, this person you claim to have spent around six months of your life with years ago is secretly obsessed with you. Caroline did surprise me though, i 100% was prepared to hear that the book "scammer" will never be published and is in itself a one big scam. Though if it weren't for Natalie's book, it would probably be the case.
It’s giving Mean Girls. It’s obvious Caroline is delusional and feels extremely jealous of Natalie. Caroline is so obsessed with appearances, living a fascinating life, throwing parties, wearing expensive ballgowns; essentially doing everything she can to make sure her appearance matches her delusion. And yet she feels jealousy & spite for Natalie, because she knows that no amount of money, looks, manipulation or lies will erase the truth: Natalie is a better writer than she will ever be.
she also seems weirdly sexually obsessed with her too?? It’s extremely uncomfortable, and I’m sure if Caroline was a man acting this unhinged about a woman, people would’ve called it out sooner.
I was in Undergrad when Natalie’s article was released and I remember being OBSESSED with it. It was such an intimate and realistic glimpse into the kind of friendship we all have experienced at some point with a friend you love but so does everybody else and you’re not as important to them. She also was very graceful in her writing and humanised Caroline way more than she deserved. CC should be thanking Natalie on her knees because Nat made her sound so much in depth and interesting than she actually is. Also Nat is a better writer because she isn’t a narcissist and actually has the ability to look beyond herself and at other people long enough to understand them which reflects in her writing. CC lives in a bubble so obviously her writing will never resonate with anyone else because it’s for herself only.
not trying to defend caroline, but this comment just rubs me the wrong way 😭 you guys are treating her as a one dimensional character and are throwing accusations about her personal life. especially this line: "And yet she feels jealousy & spite for Natalie, because she knows that no amount of money, looks, manipulation or lies will erase the truth: Natalie is a better writer than she will ever be." like how do you know that ?? do you know her personally ?? who are you to assume someone's mental state ?? it honestly feels like yall are dehumanizing her and projecting ur feelings on to her. i agree that she isn't a very good person; but paiting natalie as the hero and caroline as the villain seems rlly weird to me
Caroline telling everyone how aroused she was over Natalie's assault story is crazy awful!! Then for her to go on and share Natalie's story with more details is shockingly disgusting.
Right?? Thats the part that disgusted me the most, what a genuinely horrible thing to do! I'd be devastated, cant imagine what that must be like for Natalie
dude things were so wrapped at like the 40-minute and then i checked the runtime and lemme tell you i was not ready to see OVER 2 HOURS? this man spoils us!!
There is an infinite number of podcasts, and she seems to relish any opportunity to unspool about herself - even unprompted - so I guess it shouldn’t surprise me… but I know what you mean 😅
She says Natalie is manipulative and accuses her of being more clever at telling a narrative because that's what Caroline does, so she's projecting on to Natalie cause she can't fathom a person being not fake.
It's pretty easy to see why Caroline hates Natalie so much. Natalie is everything Caroline wanted to be, and she didn't have to fake anything to do it. Natalie is intelligent, hardworking, talented, successful, surrounded by love, and - this probably kills Caroline the most - genuinely at peace with herself. Caroline had to con thousands of people just for the hope of being a fraction of the person Natalie is, and now she hates her for it. And it must KILL HER that Natalie doesn't think about her at all.
It makes me so happy Natalie is publishing the type of meaningful memoir that Caroline wishes she could but probably never will because she’s so inauthentic, self-absorbed and lacks the self awareness, depth and intelligence to write the type of important nonfiction that she so badly wants to. Good for Natalie, I wish her a long successful writing career 💖
Natalie grew up while Caroline stayed a classic mean girl on the verge of being psycho. Caroline can't stand Natalie being happy without her. Natalie lives a genuine life with people who really love her and Caroline is very jealous of that cause she's empty, has no one which Natalie observed when getting to know who she was and knew that's not the life she would want (money doesn't fill a void).
D’Angelo I’m so fucking serious when I say the quality of this video just blew my socks off. Thank you so much for creating such amazing, lengthy, detailed and entertaining content :)
In case anyone’s wondering how Caroline responded to this, she claimed that she’s honoured to be the subject of a D’Angelo deepdive as she’s admired him for years (and then she linked the video and called it art). She also made a semi-passive aggressive comment about how the book D’Angelo ordered probably won’t come for another month since he only ordered it 15 days ago. She followed that up by saying "anyway, back to business." I guess she's insinuating that she won’t talk about this again, which I somewhat doubt given her track record...
I feel so bad for Natalie. All she did was explain the abuse she faced at Caroline’s hands and yet Caroline CONTINUES to abuse her publicly. She’s not some manic pixie dream girl as she portrays herself. She’s just a rich girl who wants to be perceived as a certain type of person without doing any of the work.
I wish I knew why people buy into such people's stories. Happens all the time. The world would be so much better if more people knew to roll their eyes in the face of a pathological liar like Caroline.
@@Cat_Woods I definitely think we’re seeing a shift where people are waking up to the “relatable” influencer. I think it helps that people like Caroline create these “characters” that they THINK is relatable like a romanticized version of poverty. Especially in a time of economic crisis. Really the only people I see eating up her bs anymore are other well off yt women who have absolutely no concept of what the real world is actually like and how EVERYONE can see through their facade.
She can't stand Natalie, because she sees Natalie as beneath her and not attractive enough to be deserving of praise and acknowledgment, while at the same time wishing she was Natalie. I believe that she actually wants to be a famous writer, but she just isn't.
Exactly! She is envy of Natalie, because Caroline sees herself as her superior but at the same time Natalie is the one getting praise and having the life Caroline thinks should be hers.
Omg, I just heard D'Angelo read how Caroline wants to hurt Natalie. That's some actual insane shit. If I was Natalie, I would honestly get a restraining order 😱
She sounds like a grandiose narcissist. They all make grand promises that they never deliver on and are obsessed with talking about themselves like they are the main character! The fact that her goal was for people to dress up as her for halloween and be required reading in schools and be a household famous name instead of her goal to simply write quality works is very telling!
I have a family member like that. Luckily, they didn't have the same platform or generational wealth as Caroline. But they still pushed a lot of people to give them money to fund their grandiose ideas and blow it all for himself. And constantly antagonizing other people in a way that they were "out to get him" like a cartoonish villain. It's almost laughable how sad it is.
Yeah. Textbook, honestly. The section at the very end about how much deep resentment she holds toward her ex-friend reminds me SO much of my own narc ex-friend. It was never this extreme, and I haven't spoken to that person in 5+ years, but honestly... A sadistic part of me hopes she still holds this much resentment towards me 😂 Caroline doesn't realize that she only makes her ex-friend look better and better in comparison, the more she talks smack
don't worry people are prolly going to buy Nathalie's book now and give reviews that will make its rating higher and the fact that Caroline's book is rated higher is probably due to two things : since she's an influencer a lot of young people bought her book and rated it high because they like her and don't actually read a lot, they just got it because she's their fav influencer so they don't care about the writing anyway & considering her past history there's a high chance that she paid for fake reviews or made fake accounts to boost her rating (also maybe in order to make sure that it would be rated higher than Nathalie's considering she wrote it only because of anger towards her she probably wouldn't be able to bear her book being rated lower than hers and because she thinks she's a literary genius too so she probably think she deserves to cheat in order to make her book seem better than it is just like she thought for everything else.)
Honestly? I almost believe that professor laughed at her and said "all you had to do was write", because that's Caroline's biggest problem. It's not imagination, it's not drive, it's not marketing, it's the actual act of WRITING. How many people do we know that call themselves artists, writers, actors, dancers, ect. but never do the craft itself? That want to be SEEN as creators, not *be* creators. Natalie wrote a book; Caroline never has. Until she can finish a book, she can never be a better writer than Natalie because she isn't one.
It could have easily been what he said and how she heard it. I dropped an English class once in the middle of an essay. I told the teacher I had no idea what I was doing. She said, "You probably know more than that half the people in here, you are writing something." She didn't say you're a brilliant writer and know more than half the class but I could have chosen to hear that. She just thought I might pass. Stupid me dropped the class. I will still always want to write that book, darn it.
as a writer who struggles with imposter syndrome, nothing has infuriated me more today than hearing about this woman’s “writing.” on the more positive side, i’ve only just discovered your channel and as someone who loves watching video essays while i work/craft/chill, i’m so glad i stumbled across your work. thank you for all you do 💖
There was a 2nd cat when she lived in NYC that she gave away. Poor Matisse has had to live in absolute filth. At one point I believe she had kitty litter in paper plates and she'd often post photos from her NYC hovel that included cat poop. I'm also not sure if Matisse has ever been to a vet and she's been known to carry him around in a tote bag.
This girl makes me so angry, because she’s the type of person who will NEVER think she’s done anything wrong. No matter what you tell her or show her, no matter how many people call her out, she will NEVER be anything but the victim in her eyes. She views herself as the protagonist, and nothing will change that. It's infuriating.
DAngello has recorded Caroline Calloway's résumé for all her potential bankers, partners, landlords, employers and customers to see, so that she doesn't have to.
I honestly don't understand how she can make throw-away comments to the effect that Americans are stupid and ignorant because they do not appreciate "Oxbridge," while making glaring mistakes about the university and college system in Britain.
1:55:50 she’s talking about how the cat is her best friend and the cat is wagging its tail obviously pissed haha didn’t know this chick existed and so happy this is first/last I’ll see of her. Wretched human.
for awhile I was "involved" with a guy who went to Cambridge with Caroline Calloway and would fondly reminisce on how they constantly flirted, but never got together. He clearly had a soft spot for her, like I couldn't make fun of her without him getting very defensive. He later turned out to be a habitual lying manipulative weirdo and it was like "ohhhh actually that makes a lot of sense, that should've been a red flag"
He probably didn’t even know her and was just trying to sound cool/impress you. My pathological lying ex claimed his bm dated kid cudi, got pregnant by him and ended the pregnancy in high school. I just KNEW he was completely FOS and was just trying to sound cool. 😂😂 I was legit embarrassed for him.
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My parents said if I reach 10k, they'd buy me a professional camera for recording... Pls guys Im
literally begging you.
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@@MbitaChizi job
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Getting a half a million-dollar book deal and not publishing the book because, "it wouldn't be about me," is one of the most self-centered things I've ever heard.
My parents said if I reach 10k, they'd buy me a professional camera for recording... Pls guys Im
literally begging you..
If I was offered 500k to write a book, I'd write whatever they wanted me to.
That's a great summary of CC actually
@@alyshaking Same. Only someone who is a psycho and doesn't need to worry about money would turn down a deal like that.
Not to mention it’s a complete lie, at least the part about her having any creative integrity. During the Snake Oil skin care she bragged about doing jobs she didn’t actually believe in just to get money. The fact is she wants to coast through life doing a minimal amount of labor with the maximum amount of money and attention.
TH-camrs pulling at a loose thread only to unravel a moldy, rotten, boulder sized ball of yarn is my favorite genre
omg YES, you described this type if video essay perfectly I love it aha
Hbomberguy core
it's like the interpersonal relationship version of ingrown hair extraction videos
My parents said if I reach 10k, they'd buy me a professional camera for recording... Pls guys Im
literally begging you..
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I feel so bad for Natalie, imagine being friends with someone for 6 months max and they blame you for everything wrong in THEIR life after years 😭😭😭
The fact they were friends for such a short amount of time is... In some ways it makes me pity Caroline. She's had so few close relationships that her harping on about this one... It's just sad.
@@annamelvina216yeah but its clear to me that its her own fault. She seems like a terrible friend and nasty person, had she just been a little more considerate of others she would have flourished socially
she has also moved the narrative around a lot over the years, and she would often conflate her dad dying with Natalie's article, as in, "i was upset about this article coming out so i was dismissive when my dad called and then he died right after and it was kind of Natalie's fault"
It happened to me. Caroline is just wildly jealous of Natalie.
its like shes so violently dense she almost does a full circle and becomes self aware
My brain hurts when she thinks she got into Cambridge on her own academic merit compared to someone else with true academic merit and then also says she faked her grades...help me understand.
It seems like she separates herself from this “character” she claims to have taken on for the sake of her non-existent first book. It’s just another way not to take full accountability. She was trying to curate a persona but fails to realize once you start living that persona non-stop and enact actual harm on people, that’s not a character you made up. That’s a real person and the real person you were (and are-she just hasn’t gotten far enough to recognize that yet lol).
She's the special kind of dense you only get from people who are born into immense privilege, she has the unique form of narcissism and laissez faire attitude that only comes from being completely shielded from regular concerns and consequences. To anyone who hasn't spent decades around the kind of wealth that is truly unimaginable to behave like that, but her actions are hardly unique or even especially heinous.
She has always been aware of her actions, she's just a bad person who's fundamental foundation is entitlement and greed
When did she become self aware??
She keeps talking about wanting to be a published author but never talks about actually writing books which is such an offputting vibe
My parents said if I reach 10k, they'd buy me a professional camera for recording... Pls guys Im
literally begging you..
She “makes” books, never writes them
That's (not very subtle) doublespeak for "I paid someone else to write this for me, silently and then edited it to sh1t myself so I could say I did something here"... I would not be surprised to find out she even used AI to write :'D
@@bakaichigoAi wasn’t around during her announcement about these books. It’s much more likely she hired a ghostwriter.
she has the same mindset i had when i was 8. i also wanted to be a famous author, but then i realized i didnt like writing and those arent exactly compatible, so i dropped that dream. i guess she never grew out of that phase.
the way she just laughs off blowing $100,000 multiple times is exhausting
Rich people live in a different reality
It’s truly insane
Like tell me you don’t know about the state of the economy without telling me you don’t know about the state of the economy 🙃🙃🙃
I’ve never seen that amount of money in my life it blows my mind
And the audacity to claim her family is lower middle class at the same time
She gave that $50k to charity? Nothing about her leads me to believe this is true
I would believe a 'charity' that her family owns/gets inflated CEO salaries from for doing almost nothing.
I’m surprised D’Angelo didn’t explore this more!!!
@@heatherb9588well something like that is pretty hard to prove or disprove. She would have had to state the names of every charity she donated to and said charities would have be willing to disclose their donors publicly. I understand him not wanting to waste his time and just give her the benefit of the doubt.
Agree! There's just no way that happened lol
@@heatherb9588 yeah I would have loved him to question this part because he doesn’t mention her actually providing any evidence that she donated anything. She probably considers herself a charity case and selflessly donated to herself
it’s so satisfying to know that i truly did NOT know who this scammer was. and she really thought her image and likeness was worth $1m to netflix?? the DELUSION
also, someone please report her some more to the FTC and/or BBB 😭
also v sad chappell roan follows her on ig lol
@@rakkooneelmao i just saw that but she also follows a ton of people from before she got rlly famous so hopefully it’s just remnants of that
@@iwouldgiveyouthemoon_ yeah and honestly i bet chappell is a girl who ironically loves cringe and gets a laugh out of it, so nbd hahahah
there is no way this girl is paying her taxes
I was thinking the same thing! Forget the "FTA", Miss Girl should be worried about the IRS!
you wont believe me when i say this..
@@WorldsLeastSelfSufficientSHE ISNT?
@@illianas_den in the literal video it says she stopped paying her taxes LMFAO
@@WorldsLeastSelfSufficient im like actually stupid then or i zoned out but it makes total sense
Remember they’re not better than you, they just have rich parents
THIS
She's objectively worse than almost anyone tbh.
@@pinksnake8001 Real and true.
They are better than you if they make you pay for OF subs and bad photos of Cambridge
@@pinksnake8001that’s typically assumed when you say they have rich parents
Is anyone else kind of hung up on the fact that she kept calling Natalie ugly in interviews? It’s needlessly cruel.
that's what got me! haven't read it but the disparity between Natalie writing a nuanced essay about body image and gender dysphoria and Caroline being fatphobic, queerphobic, racist... there's too much wrong to unpack
And then claiming that she suffers special, especially bad misogyny for being "thin and pretty". Does she think that calling other women ugly and fat isn't spiteful misogyny itself?
It's disgusting how obsessed she is with trying to make Natalie look bad in all the ways that she can, even if it's completely irrelevant. I mean she wrote a whole paragraph about her weight and tried to claim it wasn't out of fatphobia when we all know she hates Natalie and is itching at any way to make her seem unlikable. And the way she talked about her SA was fcking degeneracy that goes beyond the normal type of hate that an ex best friend would feel.
@@ard4461 also not to bodyshame but she is not *that* pretty. She's the epitome of milquetoast
It’s incredibly disgusting and upsetting. She somehow wants to convince people that she’s a good person but there’s a ton of video and written evidence of her being insanely cruel to Natalie.
I can't get over the fact that Caroline repeatedly calls herself blonde when she very clearly has brunette hair.
bet she was blonde as a kid and still isnt over the fact that it went brown as she grew up
i mean given how far removed she is from reality it's not that surprising
Sister of a hairdresser……she has med to dark blonde hair. My hair is darker and according to the cosmetology world, I am dark blonde.
I cannot get over how often she referred to herself as a writer, talked about the legacy of her writing, talked about staying true to her artistic vision, when she literally HAD NOT WRITTEN A SINGLE WORD.
Delulu. Straight up prophetic talking with no back up. This is why she believed it so hard, is cause she KEPT TALKING about it instead of doing. the. Thing.
She did write Instagram captions. Don't know if it's something but it's not nothing.
@@louibeansAnd she got help for this from Natalie, so barely even that.
I hesitate to call myself a writer because I don't write outside of my writing classes, but she doesn't have this kind of consideration, clearly.
She didn't want to write a book that wasn't about heeeer!!! Come on now, can't you see how painful it is for her to do something that's not completely about her 100% of the time?
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 Yeah but not throughout her whole time doing this. She did write some stuff, even if it's not a lot and even if we can criticize her rightfully for the context of her writing and for the things connected to it.
"I've always wanted to be a famous memoirist" is an objectively funny statement.
it was a subtle tip-off to her crescendo of narcissism lowkey. who dreams of being a memoirist?? her, because she could only envision writing about herself
Objectively 😂😂😂
@ville__😂
@@s7d788it’s a bot
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I literally GASPED at the passage where she asks her professor if she's a better writer than Natalie and her professor tells her "I thought you knew all along." The fact that her vendetta with Natalie runs so deep that she literally wrote wattpad level fanfiction of a professor telling her verbatim that she's better than Natalie is INSANE, absolutely WILD. I had to pause the video and process it. This woman is in her 30s
SHE'S IN HER 30S?? 😭
@@severissyes dude all of this happened a decade ago
its crazy, she's literally obsessed with her. imagine being Natalie and reading that
It's giving my immortal bloodyrose666 and raven
"and everyone clapped"
Something I didn’t realize at the time: an average page of a book contains 250-500 words. 20,000 words is equivalent to 40-80 pages. She wrote a 40-80 page response to Natalie.
40 pages of a google doc size; 80 pages of a print novel size
The fact that she dressed up as Dolores Hayes, the underaged victim from LOLITA of all books for her ONLYFANS, is a unique kind of disgusting
OMG I knew that I knew that name when he said it but I didn't place it. God that's abhorrent!
genuinely it made me paused the video for a moment, its so disturbing
THIS, and also how she casually dropped the fact that she follows dancing 15 yo on tiktok that she has to, in her words, "pretend Im not attracted to"
That's grotesque.
@@botanicalitus4194That’s so gross. JAIL
Caroline’s sexual obsession with Natalie is by far the most disturbing aspect of this whole debacle. Sleeping with a man that looked like Natalie? TURNED ON by Natalie’s sexual assault? REENACTING IT WITH HER BF LATER?? That knocked the breath right out of me. Unbelievable.
@ville__is this a bot? Why do you keep commenting this?
@@sane5761Yeah it is a bot, just report its replies for spam
And the gall of her to simultaneously blame any criticism she gets on misogyny
You’re absolutely right. And her fantasizing about killing her? There’s something psychosexual going on here
My jaw literally dropped
Her taking all of these interviews lying down like she’s just on FT with her friends is unhinged.
My parents said if I reach 10k, they'd buy me a professional camera for recording... Pls guys Im
literally begging you..
I feel like that's a purposeful choice because she's trying to be relatable
omg ikr I couldn't stop thinking the same thing lmao
literally! it's so off-putting and almost maddening how candid she's being while she's talking about being horrible debt and scamming her fans.
I commented the same thing! It seems so disrespectful and blasé, as if the questions are all so pedestrian and beneath her, she can barely muster up the energy to give a single eff about any of it.
I remember the Cambridge student newspaper, Varsity, reporting on this, and they called for her degree to be withdrawn, and honestly... Yeah, maybe.
What happened then ?
There’s something so wild about her saying “the book I never wrote would not have stayed true to my artistic vision.” Caroline, you’re not a writer if you don’t write.
My parents said if I reach 10k, they'd buy me a professional camera for recording... Pls guys Im
literally begging you..
No book is going to stay true to an artistic vision anyways. Like as a writer, what you imagine in your head will always be more perfect than what ends up on the page
Honestly that's such a common pitfall for creatives. Perfectionism, not the scamming part
@@MbitaChizi I'm reporting your account for spam dude, please fuck off
She's a legend in her own mind. Not to mention a creepy stalker. If I was Natalie, I'd be seriously alarmed for my wellbeing. Imo, Caroline is a deeply disturbed individual.
you’ve heard of emily in paris, now get ready for caroline in cambridge 😭😂 god it’s unbelievable to think this person is REAL and not a badly written and portrayed netflix original character
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The way I *cackled* 🤣 Thank you for this!
Please don’t give her any ideas 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Just heard.of her and my brain can't process it why who is she? Did she have Famous parents ? Whaty the hell is this lmao
"At this point Natalie is living inside Caroline's head rent-free. And she would know a thing or two about living rent-free, wouldn't she?" 💀
My jaw dropped when I heard this line LMFAOOOO so good
that line killed me fr
HES SO FUNNY HELP
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@@lunomootz211 2:13:21 here u go!
If Caroline wasn't from a rich family she would have been put in prison the second she the publishers asked for the money back.
Her talking about Natalie 100% sounds like a creepy ex who’s still stalking you.
Right? She’s obsessed.
Super on brand of her. Her college boyfriend begged her several times to stop talking about him. She even stalked his next girlfriend and claimed that this man’s new girlfriend made a fake fan account to stalk Caroline
Caroline is just SO self-obsessed and delusional that the reality of Natalie being a seriously regarded and *professionally* published author has driven her (even more) insane. She has spent so long equating being "someone who lived a life worth writing about" with being an actual talented and accomplished writer, that someone as "mundane" as Natalie having legitimate success while she's, at best, a self-published freakshow, seriously broke her brain.
i deadass wondered if i was 'making everything gay again' cause i was like "is she like, in love with her???" lol.
constantly tracking what someone's doing and spreading malicious rumours about them online are literally known methods/aspects of stalking. if she isn't already legally considered a stalker, she's damn near close. (iirc it falls pretty in line with how the rejected & resentful stalker archetypes act)
it's genuinely scary at this point - like holy shit just move on and let natalie LIVE
her saying she’s attracted to 15 year olds is somehow just a footnote in this story ☠️
Holy shit, I'm going through the comments after finishing the vid and I literally forgot that. AND the fact her momma subbed to her OF. God is dead and we killed him.
BRO I'm only 20 minutes in, damn
god yea two hours in and i forgot about that part what the fuck
I just started this and now I'm scared wtf
59:23 oh girl …….. its this one
the way every single interviewer in all of these clips looks like they are intensely regretting having her on their show has me cracking tf up
Exactly what I was thinking ~ I feel embarrassed and bored for them
Yep. They all look like they can’t wait for the interview to be over, nodding just to humour her and have it end faster
Yes! Especially the beautiful blonde lady with her hair pulled back- I’m not sure that wasn’t eventually just a still shot of her that she put up so that she could leave the interview while Caroline was blathering on like a fool.
@@jflyiii1682 YES! She looked like she was growing deader inside the more she listened.
This! I was thinking the same thing as I listened to her speak and then noticed the interviewers dead eyes as the video goes on 😂 they HATED speaking with her and hearing her self absorbed fantasies
1:06:08 Hearing this line, particulary "only 4 people... 4 people ... complained... to the US government ✨💅" said in the tone of a brag, was a genuinely surreal experience.
Hahaha
To the best of my knowledge, not a single person has ever complained about me to the US government! I guess by Caroline Calloway’s standards, that makes me eligible for sainthood or the Nobel Peace Prize or something…
right?? it felt like "only 4 people - 4 PEOPLE - died after eating my rotten food"
i think if four people complained about me to the whole ass government I'd just lie down and let the dirt take me back lmao
@@tumbleweedfish😂 right???
It is PEAK irony that the only time I ever felt sympathy for Caroline was while reading Natalie's article. She did a better job humanizing Caroline than the woman herself has ever done.
Because Caroline tried so damn hard to make herself look perfect that she just comes off as...Well not human at times and just a character in a book trying to be the MC of the world
Yes! Exactly
@ville__no he didnt
@ville__when will you leave us alone
I'd say D'Angelo did it well too. He just had to find multiple half soundbites to eke out any thoughts behind and then filter through his own beautiful brain to make meaning. Performance art!
I’m obsessed with the way the interviewers in every clip are just sitting in silence, and occasionally nodding their heads with their eyes completely glazed
The girlie from the revolut ads is absolutely seething with hatred lol
you can see them counting down the minutes until they can end the podcast and never have to talk to her again lol
I love Sloan.
Like me they have probably never wanted to hit someone so badly before
Exactly, the Evolution of a Snake had her as a guest and even they couldn’t get a word in
Natalie casually thriving is the best way this could have ended
so true, im also glad she doesn’t read caroline’s writing
I know. She's doing so well and it's great because she didn't have to -perhaps lie about having had to- fake grades to get into a pristigeous international school, fake an internet presence, fake a personality, fake not having developed an addiction, fake being a writer, fake having multiple crises of poverty, fake needing federal protection from paying rent, fake being an It Girl, and then fake being a memoirist by useing the audience built off the original fake audience to sell a memoir that was apparently fake edited.
Natalie did the one thing the NYU professor told Caroline to do, the one thing Caroline has all along, for some reason, made every excuse not to do: write. With no family fortune, no celebrity/influencer status, no real life Gossip Girl train wreck of a life story, and no Cambridge fairytale degree, Natalie simply wrote a book and sold it.
(I know Caroline technically sold hers but self-publishing doesn't count when a decent number of the buyers don't ever even recieve the book.)
It's easy to tell exactly who is on whose mind when they lay down to sleep every night. 😂
It seems simple: between Natalie and Caroline only one has self respect.
I am a self-published author, and the idea of Caroline physically printing, binding, and distributing the book herself is insane to me. Literally no one does this
Many years ago, I came across someone else who legitimately did this! He wrote, bound, and distributed his book. It was on the conspiracy theory of the moon landing being faked… but hey, he’s another one
As a Black girl who had to study nights in order to achieve the extra grades for my conditional offer at Cambridge, I am very glad I have never heard of this person. How enraging.
Hey, congratulations! A Cambridge offer is huge
(context for scrollers: Cambridge sees A Level grades as a very good predictor of future success. So you have to not only get all As in whatever standardised tests you take at around 18, you have to get VERY HIGH As. I actually didn't apply to Cam because my marks weren't high enough, and I got all As and A*s. It's scary!)
@@isabellamorris7902 Thank you! It was hard but I am glad to have achieved it. And yes, you're spot on with your commentary. I was predicted 3 As at A-Level and Cambridge said I had to TAKE AN EXTRA COURSE AND ACHIEVE 4 A*s....which I eventually did. I would literally have 5 minutes to eat dinner over the sink after college and then my dad would drive me to my night course 3x a week. People like this Cambridge cosplayer are SO insulting to those of us who worked for it.
@@bouncyshak if I never have to hear the phrase "UMS" ever again, I will be happy...
The sad thing is that it sounds like CC's eventual offer was legit. She could have done SO MUCH with that education plus the privileges afforded to her by her parents, and her obsessive-level drive
@@isabellamorris7902 Well if she forged her transcripts then it wasn't. The UCAS system in the UK fed my results directly to Cambridge but I'm certain that a scam like the one she described may have been possible with international students in the 2010s. Cambridge is traditional in every sense, and that includes their admin. She most definitely took that slot from someone more deserving.
@@bouncyshak ...oh shit I did not watch that far. What the fuck
She could have flourished if she discovered self-insert fanfiction.
Edit: guys it's a JOKE, some of yall are taking this too serious.
All of this could have been avoided if someone had just shown her the "x reader" tag
Idk yall....she would've had to do REAL WORK to write that kinda stuff. She seems to be against that kinda thing
Nah, there are ao3 writers way more professional and dedicated to their work than her
I think that still would've lead to some insane fandom drama lol
I am confident that I put more time in some of my fanfic chapters than she did her entire book.
And fic readers can be a thankless bunch, she would never be able to handle the pressure of people wanting more. Her page would be a graveyard of dozens of abandoned works
“I made 25k a month on OnlyFans, thanks patriarchy 🙄” is such a weird take when she has had more privilege throughout her life than 95% of people.
Also after she got a $500,000 book offer. Unreal
I mean I get her point that women's work often isnt given a chance or taken seriously unless it is sxuaI because of patriarchy. That is absolutely true. but her sentiment just doesnt apply to her lol the reason people didnt appreciate her other work is because it didnt exist, her legacy is just being a scammer
@botanicalitus4194 I feel like she really doesn't care about the point or actually pointing out issues. She's just jumping on the bandwagon to make herself more sympathetic. Like how you can you blame patriarchy for thus but also purposely decide to dress as underaged characters in your onlyfans?
@@Ashbrash1998i agree shes definitely not saying it sincerely, she is just trying to paint herself as a victim
95% is pretty generous ahahhh
Hearing about people like this makes me REALLY mad at myself. Shame is definitely holding me back. If I was shameless and blasé enough, i could probably get a couple hundred thousand too 😭
I think this ALL the time. Let's go ahead and do it! (Not that I plan on being a scammer. I mean just living my life shamelessly)
So, so true. Having a conscience in this world is really a burden.
This!! I was thinking this during the whole video. Like there are people who believe in themselves so much despite being terrible😅
Having ethics/morals really keeps a person in the lowest tax bracket. Truth.
I'm literally 10 minutes in and this woman is already completely insufferable. There are no castles in cambridge! What in the teaboo nonsense is she talking about?!
teaboo is such a good word for her behaviour lmaoooo
I was literally thinking during the early Cambridge segment "this woman is a weaboo for England" and you've come up with the perfect word for it. Or maybe it already existed. I didn't check lol
teaboo lmaoooo that's brilliant
@@mellow_mallow I thought it was 'anglophile', but I like the idea of teaboo 😂
It's existing slang apparently but thank you for sharing this with us lmao
WHAT DOES SHE MEAN THERE ARE NO SERIOUS BOOKS THAT AREN'T FICTION?!? ONLY FICTION GOES HARD?!? GIRL!!!
I think she may just need to read more books 😅
That took me out I was like "wut". She literally mentions memoirs earlier. Like we know, she knows those exist.
i'm like 95% sure she said "series of books" but i'm not positive
@@napatora Those still exist, I'm just not sure she'd have the patience for them.
judging by the ways she’s fudged with her story, I think she means nonfiction books that are escapist
I'm a first year international student at Cambridge and didn't expect this video to cure my raging imposter syndrome.
SAME 😭
LMAOOOO from a fellow cantab
As an Ivy League grad, I was IMMEDIATELY cured of my imposter syndrome the second I was in rooms with “big wigs” who were complete imbeciles. I quickly realized certain people traverse through the world on the backs of smart, hard-working, competent, imposter-syndrome-ridden folks. Rooting for you!! You got this 💪🏽
@@MillennialMcGuyver for reeeaaaaal. It's like two types of people at prestigious schools: the people who just wanna benefit from the prestige socially, and those who take advantage of the resources that make the school prestigious in the first place 🙄
BRO GETTING INTO CAMBRIDGE IS HARD AS BALLS AND SOMETHING I COULD NEVER DO
And it's not like I'm bad at school or anything. I got 5's on every AP Exam I took (which was many) and high ACT score. I just didn't have the motivation or skill to maintain a 3.5+ GPA. Not like it matters, I wanted to pursue animation out of all things and got into a really decent and selective school for it in the end.
Irregardless, be proud of your hard work because you deserve it! They accepted you out of the tens of thousands of applicants because you had merits they didn't. You made the cut because of your own skills, hard-work and commitment to the school. That's metal af!
People will always be better, sure, but that is inevitable. If anything, you should befriend the people you compare yourself to and steal all their knowledge for yourself (unlike Caroline Calloway who just steals people's money lol) . That's what college is all about anyway. To learn and vanquish your mortal enemies. The only things that matter is that you got accepted for a reason, and that you graduate. That's it.
At my school, we don't say "your art is good" or "wow, you drew that so much better than I did." We say: "I want to eat that." You know why? It means we want to consume whatever skills that artists has and share our own like sharing a meal.
I cannot believe she took the phrase "Gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss" too seriously and did it herself oml
Okay but like...cosplaying as Dolores Hayes, the 12 year old victim of rape and abuse at the hands of her step-father, for fucking OnlyFans is so unbelievably disgusting.
Vladimir Nabokov spins in his grave faster every day, man. He did not write Lolita for Dolores to be actually sexualized.
@@jolynelovemailhe suffers 65% of the time someone reads Lolita
Nasty nasty nasty
@@jolynelovemail new green energy source ?
Also I might be misremembering but I don't think Dolores lived to be 28
ETA in the book. I have no idea about the actual person the story is inspired by
The incredible irony of Natalie Beach literally writing the kind of real-life experience book that Caroline Calloway wanted to, even loosely.
And all the while being unbothered and happy. Truly the best revenge.
Yeah, you nailed the reason Caroline is so obsessively angry at her, I think.
i wonder if she did it as a jab to her lol. i hope so cause it seemed to really sting.
Honestly, it's better if she didn't do it just to get back at caroline, her being indifferent towards Caroline is so much of a better karma than her doing stuff on purpose. @@TheTinaBelcher
@@stress395 yeah.... but it is funnier.
She blocked me for saying that shrimp wasn’t vegan one time
edit: i did not expect anyone to see this so sorry for no context lol!! this was years ago (maybe 2018 ish) and she was temporarily vegan. i was following her at the time because i was fascinated by her whole deal. at time she was constantly talking about being vegan but then posted herself eating shrimp and at the time it pissed me off that she was like cosplaying as a vegan so i messaged her saying essentially that. took me a while to notice after but she blocked me immediately lol. good stuff!
Lmao
I heard shes writing a book called “shrimps is not bugs” and theres 384 mentions of you
This gives such mean girls vibes lol
omg....iconic
well do you speak shrimp? how can you know its not vegan? maybe that shrimp watched a documentary and had a change of heart
It’s so weird to hear someone talk about being a student in a foreign country and complaining about $36,000 a year tuition when I’m going to a state funded school as an instate resident for $30,000 a year
Furthermore, to hear someone complain about issues like poverty, the patriarchy, etc. when- they do have the right to complain, but- they are actively taking advantage of those systems and other people for their own gain and making choices which empower others to take advantage of THEM is mind boggling. Well, not really mind boggling since it happens so often. It’s uncomfortable to comprehend.
I had the same thought! She acted like that was some insane amount of money when that’s what I had to pay to go to a state school…
Come to the UK, what the hell 😭 my uni’s international student price is £19,000 which I thought was bloody loads
@@jelliifish After converting it to usd it comes to $24,000 which is $1,000 less than my tuition after scholarships are applied
That's mad
The number of chances this woman has been given is truly mindboggling. For most of us one wrong move or accident and we end up in unredeemable poverty
Pretty privilege and white privilege ftw 😔
A perfect example of a nepo baby. You fail upwards, and there is a safety net waiting for you every single time.
its that attractive white woman nepo baby type of privilege she has keeping her from failing
Ugh privilege.
I feel you
That fake quote from the professor absolutely killed me. The fact that she thought she could get away with that low key slander of her professor twice is hilarious.
it’s crazy how she assumed nobody would fact check anything
@ville__bud if you're going to clone comments, at least make sure there's some space between the original and the clone
@artyb27 This user has done worse than copying comments, they're a straight up troll. Don't feed the troll.
@@krixkhaos Wait, is this the same account that was running around accusing everyone of being friends with Dan Schneider a couple of weeks ago?
OMG it is 🤣 They got a new schtick!
@@rorzoi the fact that she didn’t think about how he’d react to that. He was so professional in the response so good for him… but I’d be mad. Slagging off your students to other students is such a bad look.
I love how every single interviewer looks so fed up with her. I don't blame them, she's incredibly annoying to listen to
also why is she lying down talking to some of them!! who does that.
Yess! Came here to say how bored all of them looked talking to her 😂
For REAL. These are the faces I make when I’ve zoned out ages ago.
Gosh her voice is so grating too.
Yup they all booked her for the clout & then realized she's not a good interviewee lmao
“You’re lucky there wasn’t more cat hair in the snake oil” is a wild thing to say out loud, how did we get to a place where that sounds normal??
caroline’s obsession with natalie is UNHINGED and beyond concerning. i feel like she’s using natalie as a scapegoat for EVERYTHING that she dislikes/that goes wrong in her life. genuinely kinda scared for natalie tbh :/
Same! Especially starting at 2:20:56 is freaking disturbing. I hope Natalie stays far away from Caroline.
The only reason I'm not scared for Natalie is that I can't imagine Caroline actually following through on a murder plot either.
No seriously, if anyone needs narcissistic injury, narcissistic rage or smear campaigns defined, we just need to clip that part of the video for them. It's why people have to be so careful about revealing what's behind their masks. They won't stop.
At the rate she's going, if she doesn't get some help to even begin to have some insight into her behavior, instead of "Rosebud" she's gonna be whispering "That b*ch Natalie" on her deathbed 😬
Seriously!! And the fact that she said "Oh Natalie is misogynistic cause she played into the trope of pretty equals dumb and ugly equals smart" like WHAT and she starts talking about her weight in such a disgusting way 😳 also if one of my ex-friends lied about a professor telling her that she was better than me, I would be SEETHING
I read about this lady in the New Yorker years ago and forgot about it until I saw her name just now and it all came back. The New Yorker wrote a follow up last year and called her 'an agent of chaos'... Accurate lol
"growing up being young" really made me realize Caroline's talent with words
Truly inspiring words, truly...
For me it was experiencing eyeball pleasure.
I don’t know the context but “growing up, being young” is a perfectly fine thing to say verbally. Saying things twice like this is pretty normal and helps the receiving party better understand you.
@@Username0467it is confusing on page. By young is she immature, naive, sheltered??? Everyone is young in age when growing up. “Young” next to growing up is not emphasizing that she was young in years - it adds nothing and if anything is so redundant it pulls the reader out from the text
Lmfao
She's like if a mean, cringey 12-year-old was a grown woman
That's exactly it
It's like she peaked in highschool and just kept acting like a child for the rest of her life
...same
to be completely honest with you: she literally is just me when I was 13 and thought I was the best writer ever despite not actually writing anything of worth except i had friends and family who pulled me back from that and i went to therapy to fix my mental health issues a d i earnestly hope Caroline is able to do the same one day. girlie you need help.
@@monbub Not even high school…middle school
“I’m a victim because I’m pretty and Natalie benefits from misogyny because she’s ugly” is one of the most inane, genuinely stupid takes of all time.
Her: “I wanted to read about a girl in these worlds”
Me: “fan fiction literally exists”
Also urban fantasy, magical realism…like this HAS been done.
Books with female protagonist exists. It is not hard to find and read them.
It's always a good sign when an up-and-coming author drops a line that shows that they've never read a book before. Like, would you want to watch a movie from a director who goes on interviews talking about how no one has ever made a movie about superheroes before, and we're really breaking new ground here
Fanfiction isn't necessary. There are a lot of acclaimed or just like.....well-written series with female protagonists. The underlying part is, "I want people to read about a girl IN A BOOK AS FAMOUS AS HARRY POTTER". It's purely about fame and profit.
Yes, female protagonists are neeeeever found in Y.A. or fiction 😌🤔
The world got pretty lucky that she only ever aspired to write a memoir and not found a medical tech company 👀
@ville__ That sucks that it happened if it did but anyway I'm glad she didn't end up in healthcare and possibly killing someone.
She does give the same vibes... We shall see.
@@anonuser1279 ville is a bot
@@anonuser1279 nah, the person you’re replying to is a spammer and a troll who posts these types of comments all over youtube and has some weird one-sided beef with a youtube channel that hasn’t posted in 7 years
@@esobelisk3110 Oh he's one of those. I've seen those on TH-cam recently but mainly in the comments where they'll post something ridiculous or act like a suck up to the creators they're commenting on. Grifters lol.
"I knew what my voice was and didn't want it infected by the English course here." It's giving "I'm a writer who doesn't read"
💯💯
Lmao that reminds me of Nick Miller’s quote on New Girl.
“Writers don’t read, we write.”
Did you miss the part at the start of the video where she basically claims she invented alternate storyline’s occurring at different time periods 😭😭 she thinks she can write a masterpiece but she spends all her time boasting about writing. Writers speak through writing, not aloud lol
Literally what type of writer says "I don't wanna write a book that's not about me." Girl the fvck?
@@MoonchildDontCry I KNOW like maybe you don't want to write a book, maybe you just want to have a book written about you
Her life long, childhood dream... was to write about herself.
Even Narcissus would be like, "whoa, there. Take a step back."
the only way she actually donated to charity is if she heard someone say donating was a "tax write off" and she didn't know what it meant and thought she'd get it back lmao
I actually don't believe that she donated the money. She doesn't want to tell us what she spent her money on
Yeah lmao, her casually saying she donated it "to charity" was probably her giving it to some org that's technically a nonprofit but not doing anything worthwhile as a write-off. If she had actually given tens of thousands of dollars to like, an actual organization like, providing meals for hungry kids there's nooooo way she wouldn't have milked that shit.
@ville__ we jump on nazis in this house. get the fuck out.
I'm gonna call my adderall "Charity capsules" from here on out.
@ville__huh?
I like how she’s like “ ugh 🙄 it’s stupid that people would pay for my OF more than they’d pay to read my actual writing stupid patriarchy!!” WHAT WRITING.
I know!!! Girl, YOU made the OnlyFans! The patriarchy didn’t make her dress up as underage characters for money, SHE chose this-
She knows full well why people pay more for those pictures than her books-
Also as soon as she said that I was like..........hm. Odd that you don't delete your incredibly lucrative OF for some reason then, if it bothers you so much that your titty pics sell better than........your unpublished books....
I read "WHAT WRITING" in the most exacerbated way
BUT LITERALLY WHERE IS THE WRITING?! Other than ✨Cambridge✨
✨And is the writing in the room with us right now? ✨
its crazy to me that there's so much interview footage of someone who didn't even DO anything, just talking about what she WANTS to do
I imagine it was a combination of the semi-fame of her instagram, her calling around asking to be interviewed, and the interviewers having a bit of a dry spell.
Absolutelt agreed. Being asked what you WANT to happen is cause people ask What's Next?
There are so many interviews with her because podcasts are an epidemic 😂. I miss the time in life when we weren't exposed to everyone's thoughts and life styles 24/7.
All talk no action. Shell have another life long dream next week lol
What do you mean, she did lots of stuff, very scummy, sad, awful stuff
Just the fact that Natalie, who she worked with for 6 whole months, was her "best friend" for some period of time is likely a fascinating rabbithole in itself.
Her origin story has big ‘I want to be mentioned in the same sentence as the Mona Lisa’ energy
Omg yes, she 100% giving Miles Braun energy
OMG that is SO true! and benoit would say about her "THIS IS SOOO DUUUUMB!!!!"
My parents said if I reach 10k, they'd buy me a professional camera for recording... Pls guys Im
literally begging you..
What a great time for this reference
@@MbitaChizishut upppp you're under every comment
the fact that caroline is SO obsessed with natalie but then natalie is basically like, "i dont think of you at all." *chefs kiss* poetry. i just know thats feeding caroline's rage even more
Natalie simply met a garbage human and recounted her experience and that was where it ended for her.
Caroline was forced into her villain arc, of course it'd occupy her mind on a regular basis.
Sidebar: Does anyone know if she's been diagnosed with ADD or ADHD? I'm 1 hour and 10 minutes into this video and her life sounds surprisingly like mine. Sounds like she suffers from SEVERE ADHD, like I do. Maladaptive daydreaming, being handed multiple once-in-a-lifetime opportunities and letting them slip through fingers not because your work was bad, but rather because you did not even being the work. When Natalie said, "Caroline counted down the days until she missed her book deadline" that shook me because... that has happened to me all throughout highschool, my young adult life, my middle aged life...... and it's been extremely embarrassing and damaging to people around me BUT... it's like a paralytic thing. I'll sit there PARALYZED and be stressed about the deadline and do nothing about it. I'll nap stressfully, stare at the wall stressfully, watch TV whilst not paying attention due to stress, and I will literally watch the hours of the day, and the days until the deadline count down. Without me even STARTING the project. These are projects that I was passionate about, and had amazing ideas for. And I had the skills to blow expectations out of the water. BUT.... I was always paralyzed. They say it's linked to a Perfectionist problem. I don't know how, but that's what I read. In highschool, I would even help my friends write their papers if they seemed overwhelmed, but I wouldn't write my own. When I was 32, I learned that I have BED (binge-eating disorder) I started taking Vyvanse, prescribed by a physician who has an eating-disorder practice. BOY did I become productive. The medicine worked... a little too well. I was on the lowest possible dose of Vyvanse (30 mg) and I was straight up "limitlessing" like Bradley Cooper. I was suspicious of how my life changed in literally 1 month. I became a new person. I continued researching my disorder (BED) and my medicine (Vyvanse). Turns out, Vyvanse is also a medication for ADHD. I researched ADHD... facepalmed myself... because everything I was reading about ADHD was every single terrible trait I had. I spoke with my eating disorder doctor. She was agreed I probably had ADHD, and she WAS qualified to diagnose a Patient with ADHD but she said she'd rather have a psychiatrist formally assess and diagnose me. I did that. Was formally diagnosed with severe ADHD in my 30's. And dude..... I'm not perfect.... but I'm 1000x more productive than I ever was before. I get shit done. People rely on me. I WANT to clean my house. I WANT to finish projects. I WANT to work on my businesses and make money AND FOLLOW-THROUGH for my customers. ------ I know Caroline's got other gross stuff in her life, like the cat thing, and obsession with her ex-bff Natalie.......... but everything in regards to her being a flake, an eternal planner and never-doer, talking and over-explain as much as she does, did I mention being a flake?, hopping from 1 side-hustle to the next, and constantly apologizing for broken promises, losing fantastical career opportunities handed to her on a silver platter, being CRAZY irresponsible with money, stressfully watching the clock run tick away until it hits the deadline instead of WORKING................................................................
I just googled it. She was "recreationally" taking Adderral (an ADHD medicine) which is one of the worst ones you can take because you can get 'high' off of them. You can take more than you're supposed to and "limitless" even harder. You can't do that with Vyvanse. Adderral is a "fast-acting" ADHD medication so you limitless hardcore for a couple of hours. And eventually it even stops working on you, so you have to take more and more. And when you stop, the crash (psychologically, physically) is apparently like coming off hard drugs. It's really bad for you. But Vyvanse is a SLOW-acting ADHD medication, that makes you limitless calmly for 12-14 hours. And you can't get high on Vyvanse because you can't like.. snort it. Or whatever. Vyvanse doesn't go straight into the blood-stream. It gets digested by some enzyme in your intestines and then gets slowly absorbed into your blood from there. You feel the medicine kick-in after 1 hour, but not a RUSH. It's just... suddenly you have motivation. For 14 hours. That's it. So even if Caroline HAS undiagnosed ADHD and she accidentally was treating it with illegally with Adderrall that wasn't prescribed to her.... then she's still basically got untreated ADHD. She needs to be formally assessed by a Psychiatrist or PhD Psychologist and needs to try a slow-acting ADHD med. Not fast-acting. I have no idea who fast-acting Adderral is for because that medicine leaves nothing but dumpster-fires and broken brains in it's wake. People legit get diagnosed with depression for the first time in their life DUE TO STOPPING Aderral. Jesus Christ. Stay away from Adderal, people.
@@Lee-fw9mr Please don't do stuff like this. Like I know it's popular on the internet to just speculate on stuff like this when a person does things wrong, but it's truly inappropriate. Not to mention irrelevant. Just. Don't?
Well intentioned or not it's just a huge overstep in general. We're all random strangers here. Caroline does enough uncomfortable boundary pushing herself so let's just not. Like in the most polite way I can say this: it's inappropriate.
@@Infern0z2 Here we go. Here comes the illogical one who says a bunch of stuff without actually saying anything at all. ------ @Infern0z2 Are you saying it's inappropriate for me to speak on how her life is eerily similar to mine? Are you saying it's inappropriate for me to share my experience with the internet and share how many aspects of her history align so closely to mine? Is Generation Z (or your) the arbiter of when it's appropriate to give an opinion on a youtube channel comment section, and when it IS inappropriate? Is it your job to police people's free speech? So many commenters here are commenting PRECISELY on Caroline's psychology, freely DIAGNOSING her, and branding her a narcissist, a psychopath, a sociopath. Yes, those are psychological diagnoses. But when I comment on her psychology in a constructive way, rather than a hateful/mean way.... you tell me not to? Are you normally this illogical and hypocritical or is today just a special day? Who exactly are you to gate keep my experience? Who are you police the comment section at all. I'm doing less harm than 99% of the other commenters here, but instead of preaching to them, you preach to me about inappropriate. Tell you what, when you reply to every single hateful comment here which freely diagnosis Caroline with severe psychological disorders..... then you'll have a leg to stand on. Until then, you're just a giant and unfair hypocrite 🤷♀ I don't take the advice of hypocrites.
Caroline: "I turned in essays that weren't good or weren't even done"
Also Caroline: "My professor told me I'm a better writer than this other person"
Sure, Jan.
Nah she just has incredibly high standards so her worst is still pulitzer prize worthy. /s
Though I suppose at this point it is fair to say that unfinished or rushed work is her style so at least she has found that.
you've got a point but actually the first quote is about the cambridge stuff and the second is still new york. though I can't imagine she was doing much there either
I do not believe a word she says, lol
THAT EVICTION MORATORIUM WAS FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME A SINGLE MOM WHOSE HOME HEALTHCARE PATIENT PASSED FROM COVID LEAVING ME JOBLESS MID PANDEMIC AND MY RENTAL COMPANY STILL GOT AWAY WITH IMMEDIATELY ILLEGALLY EVICTING ME AND MY SON. We lost everything and had to live in our car. And our only family died during this period. We are still struggling now. So F Caroline and I wish Natalie all the best.
Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. I hope things turn around. The greed that people who weren't struggling during the pandemic showed is just... horrendous.
The fact that Caroline consistently refers to "making" a book rather than "writing" one says... something, definitely
Now that Natalie isn't around to help she can use Chatgpt to write it for her.
LMAO right? i don't really write books myself, i prefer writing fanfiction, but i *write* fanfiction. i don't *make* fanfiction because it doesn't sound like it's for me. the way caroline speaks about how she wants to "make" a book is so concerning to me. it sounds like it's about her rather than for her.
@@1800PAlNexactly! even if it’s just phrasing, it really feels like she wants the book (and accompanying acclaim) to manifest itself without the actual *writing* part
Went into the comments to see if someone pointed this out. It's either "making" or "producing" a book, never writing it. Not to mention it seems like she only talks about writing and almost never actually does it. And i just love the fact that Natalie just went and published a thought out book and this weirdo college friend of hers still claims that everything is about her. Yes, of course Caroline, this person you claim to have spent around six months of your life with years ago is secretly obsessed with you.
Caroline did surprise me though, i 100% was prepared to hear that the book "scammer" will never be published and is in itself a one big scam. Though if it weren't for Natalie's book, it would probably be the case.
It’s giving Mean Girls. It’s obvious Caroline is delusional and feels extremely jealous of Natalie. Caroline is so obsessed with appearances, living a fascinating life, throwing parties, wearing expensive ballgowns; essentially doing everything she can to make sure her appearance matches her delusion.
And yet she feels jealousy & spite for Natalie, because she knows that no amount of money, looks, manipulation or lies will erase the truth: Natalie is a better writer than she will ever be.
she also seems weirdly sexually obsessed with her too?? It’s extremely uncomfortable, and I’m sure if Caroline was a man acting this unhinged about a woman, people would’ve called it out sooner.
She literally did the Gretchen Weiners “I can’t help it if I’m popular,” speech
I was in Undergrad when Natalie’s article was released and I remember being OBSESSED with it. It was such an intimate and realistic glimpse into the kind of friendship we all have experienced at some point with a friend you love but so does everybody else and you’re not as important to them. She also was very graceful in her writing and humanised Caroline way more than she deserved. CC should be thanking Natalie on her knees because Nat made her sound so much in depth and interesting than she actually is.
Also Nat is a better writer because she isn’t a narcissist and actually has the ability to look beyond herself and at other people long enough to understand them which reflects in her writing. CC lives in a bubble so obviously her writing will never resonate with anyone else because it’s for herself only.
but mean girls is good
not trying to defend caroline, but this comment just rubs me the wrong way 😭 you guys are treating her as a one dimensional character and are throwing accusations about her personal life. especially this line:
"And yet she feels jealousy & spite for Natalie, because she knows that no amount of money, looks, manipulation or lies will erase the truth: Natalie is a better writer than she will ever be."
like how do you know that ?? do you know her personally ?? who are you to assume someone's mental state ?? it honestly feels like yall are dehumanizing her and projecting ur feelings on to her. i agree that she isn't a very good person; but paiting natalie as the hero and caroline as the villain seems rlly weird to me
caroline named her book “scammer” the way andrew lloyd webber named his musical “bad cinderella”
@HadleyGrace Supremely cultured profile pic, you have good taste in cartoons
oh *this* hits
@@fatcat22able thank you very much i do have good taste 😌
too true 😭
As a theatre kid this comment has me dying laughing
That absolute lack of consequences this woman has faced completely blows me away. And, her careless attitude towards it is insane to me.
Privilege is generally given to the wrong people, imo. But that’s the nature of privilege, I guess. The “meMeME” theme.
you'll not be laughing when caroline reports you to the federal trade association
😂
Lol
omg lol
Natalie: *keeping her peace, not engaging in drama and writing books.*
Caroline: and I took that personally
Caroline telling everyone how aroused she was over Natalie's assault story is crazy awful!! Then for her to go on and share Natalie's story with more details is shockingly disgusting.
Right?? Thats the part that disgusted me the most, what a genuinely horrible thing to do! I'd be devastated, cant imagine what that must be like for Natalie
I'm only 40 minutes in, what the fuck is about to happen
@@crypt5129 I saw this comment at the same timestamp...
What part was this? I was working while listening and somehow missed it.
Edit: nvm i just hadn't reached that part
@ville__ L
dude things were so wrapped at like the 40-minute
and then i checked the runtime
and lemme tell you i was not ready to see OVER 2 HOURS? this man spoils us!!
Same! It did sound like he had wrapped up the video and I was getting ready to find another video when I saw the video was no where near finished
Same Here
The amount of interview footage of this girl baffles me
There is an infinite number of podcasts, and she seems to relish any opportunity to unspool about herself - even unprompted - so I guess it shouldn’t surprise me… but I know what you mean 😅
Right????
she looooooves talking about herself
Lol same. I literally haven’t heard of this woman at all before this 😂
Narcissists love a platform and will hoover whoever they can to get one
“I want people to dress up as me” *has the most generic look*
hence the ragweed bargain basement Frida Kahlo crown
Ikr...so let's see. Oversized cropped top, messy bun, leggings or yoga pants, Starbucks cup. Nailed it!
Can’t wait for that party city costume of ‘generic internet white woman #7’
Natalie's article is still pretty empathetic, the fact that Caroline thought it was defamatory means that she thinks really lowly of herself.
she just said that to paint natalie as an abuser and her as a victim. DARVO shit.
What kills me is that Caroline was like “every thing in this is true I was a bad friend” and then went to go shit on Natalie for years
She says Natalie is manipulative and accuses her of being more clever at telling a narrative because that's what Caroline does, so she's projecting on to Natalie cause she can't fathom a person being not fake.
I had never heard of Caroline before but watching this, Natalie has a new fan and I already ordered her book because Natalie seems awesome
Just like anyone with NPD does and yes, there’s no doubt in my mind
I think the wildest thing to me is how she kept finding these ways to get so much money, but then just abandoned them.
"I see myself as professional" she says, clearly laying down in MULTIPLE zoom interviews
she doesn’t even know how to format a resume or write a cover letter 😂
I was looking for this comment lol I was like "maybe it's an American thing...?" 😂😂😂
she is incapable of sitting up. any car selfie, every zoom interview, whatever it is - she is always laying down.
@@Zelomakitoko even in one of the in-person interviews, she was slouching halfway out of her seat!
That was driving me completely up the wall!!!!
Just adding to the engagement by mentioning that my statewide library system has 14 copies of Adult Drama and 0 copies of Scammer.
Hahahaha! Brutal.
😂😂😂😂
Checked mine out of curiosity: 17 physical copies plus ebooks and audio books :o
@ville__where
i checked mine, and it has 3 copies of adult drama and 0 of scammer!
"15 year olds dancing that i have to pretend im not attracted to" IS SUCH AN INSANE THING TO SAY. LIKE I CANNOT GET OVER THAT. WHAT.
I PAUSED THE VIDEO TO MAKE SURE I HEARD IT CORRECTLY
What does that mean? This drama is so long. I don’t even remember the context lol
@@unkofi445 literally what it is. She said her cut off age for dating is 20. Then posted that video saying 15 year olds are attractive 59:25
That is an inside thought If I ever heardone
@@emiliap8790this is a thought that should not EXIST to anybody who is a fully legal adult who KNOWS the age of a minor.
This is the book version of SEO-hijacking. Searching her name with scammer will likely prioritize her book, not her actual scams.
It's pretty easy to see why Caroline hates Natalie so much. Natalie is everything Caroline wanted to be, and she didn't have to fake anything to do it. Natalie is intelligent, hardworking, talented, successful, surrounded by love, and - this probably kills Caroline the most - genuinely at peace with herself. Caroline had to con thousands of people just for the hope of being a fraction of the person Natalie is, and now she hates her for it. And it must KILL HER that Natalie doesn't think about her at all.
Natalie is riding Caroline’s coat tails and is objectively not very attractive. What could she be jealous of based on what we know of her
@@xxo5294 ok Caroline
Hey Caroline 😂
I think she likes Natalie but in denial haha
@@johnphilipteguihanon8293 seriously, they way she talks about her feels so weirdly obsessive.
Natalie being a more successful author than Caroline is lowkey karma
highkey karma
Love that for them both...
Natalie is proof that the best revenge is letting go and living well.
It makes me so happy Natalie is publishing the type of meaningful memoir that Caroline wishes she could but probably never will because she’s so inauthentic, self-absorbed and lacks the self awareness, depth and intelligence to write the type of important nonfiction that she so badly wants to. Good for Natalie, I wish her a long successful writing career 💖
I wanna see Natalie’s writing career soar 🥹
@ville__ receipts
i mean, to play devil's advocate, at least Caroline shares all of those traits with her idol Joanne!
@ville__lmao what? you have ONE video. people will say anything for a crumb of clout.
Natalie grew up while Caroline stayed a classic mean girl on the verge of being psycho. Caroline can't stand Natalie being happy without her. Natalie lives a genuine life with people who really love her and Caroline is very jealous of that cause she's empty, has no one which Natalie observed when getting to know who she was and knew that's not the life she would want (money doesn't fill a void).
D’Angelo I’m so fucking serious when I say the quality of this video just blew my socks off. Thank you so much for creating such amazing, lengthy, detailed and entertaining content :)
In case anyone’s wondering how Caroline responded to this, she claimed that she’s honoured to be the subject of a D’Angelo deepdive as she’s admired him for years (and then she linked the video and called it art). She also made a semi-passive aggressive comment about how the book D’Angelo ordered probably won’t come for another month since he only ordered it 15 days ago. She followed that up by saying "anyway, back to business."
I guess she's insinuating that she won’t talk about this again, which I somewhat doubt given her track record...
Of course she's going to call it art. It's about her
Oh yeah this chick is INSANE!!! 😭😭
she’s quietly seething for sure
she really thinks she’s invincible
i love the idea of her watching this and just tuning out every piece of criticism and only listening when D'Angelo (very vaguely) compliments her
I feel so bad for Natalie. All she did was explain the abuse she faced at Caroline’s hands and yet Caroline CONTINUES to abuse her publicly. She’s not some manic pixie dream girl as she portrays herself. She’s just a rich girl who wants to be perceived as a certain type of person without doing any of the work.
I wish I knew why people buy into such people's stories. Happens all the time. The world would be so much better if more people knew to roll their eyes in the face of a pathological liar like Caroline.
@@Cat_Woods I definitely think we’re seeing a shift where people are waking up to the “relatable” influencer. I think it helps that people like Caroline create these “characters” that they THINK is relatable like a romanticized version of poverty. Especially in a time of economic crisis. Really the only people I see eating up her bs anymore are other well off yt women who have absolutely no concept of what the real world is actually like and how EVERYONE can see through their facade.
She can't stand Natalie, because she sees Natalie as beneath her and not attractive enough to be deserving of praise and acknowledgment, while at the same time wishing she was Natalie. I believe that she actually wants to be a famous writer, but she just isn't.
Yes! Natalie seems to have the career Caroline has always wanted but never achieved. that has to hurt because she can’t attain/buy it
She wants to be a writer, but when does NOT want to write.
Exactly! She is envy of Natalie, because Caroline sees herself as her superior but at the same time Natalie is the one getting praise and having the life Caroline thinks should be hers.
Omg, I just heard D'Angelo read how Caroline wants to hurt Natalie. That's some actual insane shit. If I was Natalie, I would honestly get a restraining order 😱
That intermission with Natalie was so much more relief than I realised. As soon as Caroline's voice came back in my headache reappeared
She sounds like a grandiose narcissist. They all make grand promises that they never deliver on and are obsessed with talking about themselves like they are the main character! The fact that her goal was for people to dress up as her for halloween and be required reading in schools and be a household famous name instead of her goal to simply write quality works is very telling!
I have a family member like that. Luckily, they didn't have the same platform or generational wealth as Caroline. But they still pushed a lot of people to give them money to fund their grandiose ideas and blow it all for himself. And constantly antagonizing other people in a way that they were "out to get him" like a cartoonish villain. It's almost laughable how sad it is.
How is this person a real person and not a fictional character? She doesn’t seem real.
I had the exact same thought! She's definitely giving some sort of narcisism or even a type of PD. Those do tend to go hand in hand tbh.
Yeah. Textbook, honestly. The section at the very end about how much deep resentment she holds toward her ex-friend reminds me SO much of my own narc ex-friend. It was never this extreme, and I haven't spoken to that person in 5+ years, but honestly... A sadistic part of me hopes she still holds this much resentment towards me 😂 Caroline doesn't realize that she only makes her ex-friend look better and better in comparison, the more she talks smack
@@maddygullotta2551 narcisism IS a personality disorder, in the same cluster as BPD and antisocial
It's deeply infuriating to me that Natalie's book has a lower Goodreads score than Caroline's. Where is the justice.
If it makes you feel any better, Caroline probably pays people to leave 5-star ratings.
@@stretchmonsterand caroline is probably writing bad reviews for natalie’s book 🤣
Oh give it two weeks. The D’Angelo fans are gonna fix that.
@@buckyscastle It is a certainty my firend
don't worry people are prolly going to buy Nathalie's book now and give reviews that will make its rating higher and the fact that Caroline's book is rated higher is probably due to two things : since she's an influencer a lot of young people bought her book and rated it high because they like her and don't actually read a lot, they just got it because she's their fav influencer so they don't care about the writing anyway & considering her past history there's a high chance that she paid for fake reviews or made fake accounts to boost her rating (also maybe in order to make sure that it would be rated higher than Nathalie's considering she wrote it only because of anger towards her she probably wouldn't be able to bear her book being rated lower than hers and because she thinks she's a literary genius too so she probably think she deserves to cheat in order to make her book seem better than it is just like she thought for everything else.)
Honestly? I almost believe that professor laughed at her and said "all you had to do was write", because that's Caroline's biggest problem. It's not imagination, it's not drive, it's not marketing, it's the actual act of WRITING. How many people do we know that call themselves artists, writers, actors, dancers, ect. but never do the craft itself? That want to be SEEN as creators, not *be* creators. Natalie wrote a book; Caroline never has. Until she can finish a book, she can never be a better writer than Natalie because she isn't one.
Spilled
Caroline is a writer in the way JoJo Siwa is a singer
ok but i think we can all agree the rest of that conversation did not happen
Ate and left NO crumbs 💅
It could have easily been what he said and how she heard it. I dropped an English class once in the middle of an essay. I told the teacher I had no idea what I was doing. She said, "You probably know more than that half the people in here, you are writing something." She didn't say you're a brilliant writer and know more than half the class but I could have chosen to hear that. She just thought I might pass. Stupid me dropped the class. I will still always want to write that book, darn it.
as a writer who struggles with imposter syndrome, nothing has infuriated me more today than hearing about this woman’s “writing.”
on the more positive side, i’ve only just discovered your channel and as someone who loves watching video essays while i work/craft/chill, i’m so glad i stumbled across your work. thank you for all you do 💖
Cats, in fact, are NOT meant to be held by thier heads.
I could barely watch her do that to the poor kitty
IM ONLY 34 MINUTES IN WHAT IS THE CAT OK???? 😭
@Mushmellow7 right!? "aren't his survival instincts supposed to kick in" wtf she's supposed to take care of him
@neff6185 the cat seems fine she just handles him badly. Knowing the way she treats people, idk if she should have a cat.
There was a 2nd cat when she lived in NYC that she gave away.
Poor Matisse has had to live in absolute filth. At one point I believe she had kitty litter in paper plates and she'd often post photos from her NYC hovel that included cat poop. I'm also not sure if Matisse has ever been to a vet and she's been known to carry him around in a tote bag.
NOT THE FANFICTION OF HER BEING TOLD SHE'S "BETTER THAN NATALIE" 😭😭
This girl makes me so angry, because she’s the type of person who will NEVER think she’s done anything wrong. No matter what you tell her or show her, no matter how many people call her out, she will NEVER be anything but the victim in her eyes. She views herself as the protagonist, and nothing will change that. It's infuriating.
I feel the same way, but I at least take comfort in the fact that if she watches this video she's gonna have a complete meltdown.
DAngello has recorded Caroline Calloway's résumé for all her potential bankers, partners, landlords, employers and customers to see, so that she doesn't have to.
As a woman of colour who went to Cambridge as an international student the same years Caroline was there this shit is WILD.
Now, YOUR story would make a good book! I'd read it.
I wanna know YOUR side so much more, oh my lord.
👀 story time
Did you ever meet her?
I honestly don't understand how she can make throw-away comments to the effect that Americans are stupid and ignorant because they do not appreciate "Oxbridge," while making glaring mistakes about the university and college system in Britain.
The way she swung her cat around by his neck says so much about her. Insane behavior.
'Don't fuck with cats' has no reaction
1:55:50 she’s talking about how the cat is her best friend and the cat is wagging its tail obviously pissed haha didn’t know this chick existed and so happy this is first/last I’ll see of her. Wretched human.
INSANE.
Its giving psychopath
@ville__ Wow. You really don't have a life at ALL. That's crazy.
for awhile I was "involved" with a guy who went to Cambridge with Caroline Calloway and would fondly reminisce on how they constantly flirted, but never got together. He clearly had a soft spot for her, like I couldn't make fun of her without him getting very defensive. He later turned out to be a habitual lying manipulative weirdo and it was like "ohhhh actually that makes a lot of sense, that should've been a red flag"
Dang that is nuts that would be a deal breaker for me haha
He probably didn’t even know her and was just trying to sound cool/impress you. My pathological lying ex claimed his bm dated kid cudi, got pregnant by him and ended the pregnancy in high school. I just KNEW he was completely FOS and was just trying to sound cool. 😂😂 I was legit embarrassed for him.
@ville__ you never state which alleged idea he stole in the numerous repetitive comments.
@@darlenetroise7079 it's a bot, just report and ignore.
Isn’t it such an odd feeling when you make fun of a girl and your boyfriend gets defensive of her, happened once.... wasn’t a fan lol