This kid was not smirking or attempting to arrogantly talk over Charlie. He listened and then agreed. This guy has been led wrong, but appears to want to know the truth. That is why it is so important for Turning Point to continue to go to campuses.
Agree. He may think about it some more and think perhaps maybe he's not diving into the topics deep enough to derive his own answers. I think this problem is in high school from teachers. Can continue to higher learning schools but that depends.
They always mislead and lie to people in these headlines.Pretending to tell the truth. Saying they destroyed the person when the person's just wanting to have a conversation, it's really pathetic and backward.
@@Razorokc no joke! It's click bait. That's the worst part of this channel. I enjoy the content but the titles are consistently exaggerated on most of the videos. It's like an immature kid writing these on good videos of conversations. Really degrades it.
@@williamphillips777Clickbait? Most def. The degrading is only if you're already looking for excuses. As a fan I, too, find the clickbait unnecessary but I largely just ignore it & indulge in the video itself. As long as the vid is watched the clickbait does it's job. For me, I ignore it as irrelevant serving only to give an idea of the subject matter.
@@Beezlie727ya, I like the videos, I'm just expecting something more due to the title. Like an ohhh smack 😅...just disappointed in some of them so I find myself swiping some away knowing it's not going to be the destruction I was seeking 🤣.
Im almost 40 and been an atheist/agnostic for much of my life because I was surrounded for as long as I remembered by religious extremists who used god as an excuse to do horrendous things and use the concept/ideology as an excuse to cause conflict for their own individual advantages. I must say though Charlie Kirk and Andrew Wilson are giving me a different perspective that I cant say has converted me, but has made me take another path of thought and consider the counter to the belief's I was drawn too from experience based on my time in my tiny corner or the world. Thank you Charlie for not just being an echo chamber and putting your money where your mouth is in terms is social discourse and being open to reaching out to the other side which sadly I have found to be a rare occurrence.
@@lucylane7397 No, weak minded is when you don’t let yourself to consider other points of view - you’re weak because you’re afraid to find out you might be wrong
No one likes a zealot, regardless of the faith/religion they profess to believe, which is why it’s ironic that atheists are allowed to freely proselytize while people of faith are not only discouraged from doing so but actively discriminated against on a grand scale.
Not in the UK. I pay taxes to fund state church state schools promoting nonsense stories about water turning into wine etc. Not the case in the US either
Nobody understands what GOD is….people read your bible. 1 John 1:5. You either live in the light or the dark. We see who’s who and you know who you are. Light or Dark. Tighten up
The first amendment clearly says “government shall make no law respecting religion or preventing the free exercise thereof” so while the words “separation of church and state” aren’t there, the expression of the same is. The founding fathers wanted no state religion at all, so you’re indeed anti constitution if you think the church should be empowered again.
Charlie didn't tear anybody apart. He twisted logic into a fallacy he knew would gish-gallop his opponent to death. There's never any physical evidence with religion, just a barrage of logic fallacies. You can't debate insane people. People who believe in fake things with no evidence are typically considered mentally unstable.
I dont think there was any really foundation to begin with. The student seemed to want to standby the argument that "religion causes conflict" without any reputable basis that it does. Kirk just counter claimed the entire time, probably could have extended the discussion if there were any real grounds for argument but nothing came of it, just a common trope that "religion bad" from an athiest with no real stance as to why
Kirk says many wrong things here, He asks what religion mao and Stalin believed in and then talks about atheism which isn’t a worldview or a belief system or a religion. He blindly asserts that their totalitarianism and twisted views are based on their atheism and lack in belief of the divine without any evidence. All the evidence shows that Hitler was either a Christian or that he had delusions or twists beliefs about god and knew that religion could easily be weaponized since it’s been done before. Kirk totally misses the point here
Yes, complete nonsense. About 40% of folk in the UK stated 'no religion' at the last census. Does he think about 25 million people in the UK are open to Stalinist or Maoist values? Amazing how he can dismiss secular post enlightenment values and bang on about the 10 Commandments and Christianity.
@@garrettcaraway95182:38 ‘that’s a point that has no basis’ Oh Garrett. Woah dude. I guess. Rewatch it. I will accept your apology. But my experience of human nature is that you will double down on your opinion because you’ve been challenged on it.
@@SamT-h7wthis is irrelevant and doesn’t disprove the point. The evidence shows overwhelming that Hitler was a Christian or at the very least had some twisted view of it and knew it could easily be weaponized which it has been used for before.
The millions of lives he attributes to Atheism, are more correctly attributed to Collectivism. Come on Charlie, try to do a little better, these things may work on ignorant college kids, but I was an Atheist well before you were born.
I learned something new today. Thanks Charlie.
"That's ok, because a professor told you that. Now let's look at the facts." Awesome! Gotta love Charlie.
Separation of church and state... But our paper money says right on it, "In God We Trust".
This kid was not smirking or attempting to arrogantly talk over Charlie. He listened and then agreed. This guy has been led wrong, but appears to want to know the truth. That is why it is so important for Turning Point to continue to go to campuses.
Agree. He may think about it some more and think perhaps maybe he's not diving into the topics deep enough to derive his own answers. I think this problem is in high school from teachers. Can continue to higher learning schools but that depends.
They always mislead and lie to people in these headlines.Pretending to tell the truth. Saying they destroyed the person when the person's just wanting to have a conversation, it's really pathetic and backward.
@@Razorokc no joke! It's click bait. That's the worst part of this channel. I enjoy the content but the titles are consistently exaggerated on most of the videos. It's like an immature kid writing these on good videos of conversations. Really degrades it.
@@williamphillips777Clickbait? Most def. The degrading is only if you're already looking for excuses. As a fan I, too, find the clickbait unnecessary but I largely just ignore it & indulge in the video itself. As long as the vid is watched the clickbait does it's job. For me, I ignore it as irrelevant serving only to give an idea of the subject matter.
@@Beezlie727ya, I like the videos, I'm just expecting something more due to the title. Like an ohhh smack 😅...just disappointed in some of them so I find myself swiping some away knowing it's not going to be the destruction I was seeking 🤣.
Im almost 40 and been an atheist/agnostic for much of my life because I was surrounded for as long as I remembered by religious extremists who used god as an excuse to do horrendous things and use the concept/ideology as an excuse to cause conflict for their own individual advantages. I must say though Charlie Kirk and Andrew Wilson are giving me a different perspective that I cant say has converted me, but has made me take another path of thought and consider the counter to the belief's I was drawn too from experience based on my time in my tiny corner or the world. Thank you Charlie for not just being an echo chamber and putting your money where your mouth is in terms is social discourse and being open to reaching out to the other side which sadly I have found to be a rare occurrence.
You sound weak minded
@@lucylane7397 No, weak minded is when you don’t let yourself to consider other points of view - you’re weak because you’re afraid to find out you might be wrong
@@lucylane7397 Don't attack him! He's reaching out to God through Charlie Kirk in his own way! Don't squash the attempt.
There are people who attend church who have done nothing but run others off. Believe in God is entirely different than going to church.
@@lucylane7397 You sound insecure.
Damn! Charlie tore that guy DOWN 😅
Good talk.
This is college kids? We are F'ed
They were the same idiots in the 60s, but had worse weed.
@logangodofcandy 60s kids had more sense
he is so cute look at his t shirt and his Jigglypuff pencase soooo sweet
It's Kirby but I get what you're saying XD
Have some culture that is my boy Kirby.
@@fakade2987Kirby rocks
@@OldSchoolCurt If you're like 8 years old maybe....
He didn't "tear him apart" they were just talking
The kid? No. The argument? Yes. 😊
Does he have a Jiggly Puff clutch???? WTF
I think it’s a Nintendo switch case. Its Kirby lol
bro... it says kirby right t here....
I don't fear GOD,i fear people.
if you are an "adult" walking around with a pokeman purse...everything you say is immediately invalid and should be dismissed
Amen and Amen!! And for me, the color of their hair is a big red flag for me!
Trump is our President, happy days are here again!! 😁😁♥️♥️🇺🇸🇺🇸
@BAR55825 TRUMP!!! ❤
That's not a purse. It's a Nintendo Switch carrying case.
@@spazzyphantasm lolol, and WHY is he carrying a Nintendo Switch carrying case around? Lol
@spazzyphantasm that doesn't make it ANY better...
Jesus said, "my Kingdom (government) is NO part of this world"
The Pink Power 🔋 Ranger 🌈
Blue power 🟦
Red power 🟥
Black power ⬛
White...
{Cancelled} 😂
He can't possibly be in college.😂
Considering how ill informed he is, I'd say he is.
Did that guy have a purse ?
It's a satchel Indiana Jones wears one
It's a man purse!!! Lmfao.
Nice kirby purse, wow.
Where’s his furry costume
🤢🤮✌🏾🇨🇦
According to David Barton separation between church and state began with Moses and Aaron
Except that it's a false narrative. A total misinterpretation of scripture.
Now boy genius should go to his professor and tell him off! HE WON'T!
SMH,
Andy, Annmarie's husband.
No one likes a zealot, regardless of the faith/religion they profess to believe, which is why it’s ironic that atheists are allowed to freely proselytize while people of faith are not only discouraged from doing so but actively discriminated against on a grand scale.
Not in the UK. I pay taxes to fund state church state schools promoting nonsense stories about water turning into wine etc.
Not the case in the US either
Soooooooy!
Nobody understands what GOD is….people read your bible. 1 John 1:5. You either live in the light or the dark. We see who’s who and you know who you are. Light or Dark. Tighten up
Atheism could be considered a religion to a certain degree because it is faith based going on the premise that there is no Almighty God.
If someone can provide proof/evidence for a "god", any "god", i will join that team. It has to be viable, factual, indisputable evidence.
soy boy with the feminine affect in the voice
What about God's law above mans law?
Wouldn't that separate church and state in itself?
Kirk is confusing religion with Christianity. Israel hamas war is 100% religious.
Those aren't the 10 commandments. Go read Exodus again. I heard no reference to Don't boil a baby goat in it's mother's milk
That title was clickbait. I thought the left did stuff like this.
Personally. The Inquisition and crusades were awesome. Still talking about them right?😂✝️☦️
The first amendment clearly says “government shall make no law respecting religion or preventing the free exercise thereof” so while the words “separation of church and state” aren’t there, the expression of the same is. The founding fathers wanted no state religion at all, so you’re indeed anti constitution if you think the church should be empowered again.
Ranger is gaeee
Charlie didn't tear anybody apart. He twisted logic into a fallacy he knew would gish-gallop his opponent to death. There's never any physical evidence with religion, just a barrage of logic fallacies. You can't debate insane people. People who believe in fake things with no evidence are typically considered mentally unstable.
At the end of the day, these are both liberals.
Honestly, both of these guys’ arguments were pretty weak and someone more intelligent and knowledge could spank either one.
wrong
I dont think there was any really foundation to begin with.
The student seemed to want to standby the argument that "religion causes conflict" without any reputable basis that it does.
Kirk just counter claimed the entire time, probably could have extended the discussion if there were any real grounds for argument but nothing came of it, just a common trope that "religion bad" from an athiest with no real stance as to why
Kirk says many wrong things here, He asks what religion mao and Stalin believed in and then talks about atheism which isn’t a worldview or a belief system or a religion. He blindly asserts that their totalitarianism and twisted views are based on their atheism and lack in belief of the divine without any evidence. All the evidence shows that Hitler was either a Christian or that he had delusions or twists beliefs about god and knew that religion could easily be weaponized since it’s been done before. Kirk totally misses the point here
man u people sure are good at saying absolutely nothing
Yes, complete nonsense. About 40% of folk in the UK stated 'no religion' at the last census. Does he think about 25 million people in the UK are open to Stalinist or Maoist values?
Amazing how he can dismiss secular post enlightenment values and bang on about the 10 Commandments and Christianity.
Absolute madness to say religion doesn’t cause wars. Kirk sounding very silly here.
You sound stupid .
I don't think that's what he was trying to say. Religion has killed more people than cancer. That is a fact.
I agree. Religion has killed more people than cancer.
That's not at all what he said. He never said religion doesn't cause wars.. woah dude.. I guess rewatch it..
@@garrettcaraway95182:38 ‘that’s a point that has no basis’
Oh Garrett. Woah dude. I guess. Rewatch it.
I will accept your apology. But my experience of human nature is that you will double down on your opinion because you’ve been challenged on it.
Ok Charlie saying Hitler wasn’t a Cristian is absolutely false. Go watch Europa the last battle and learn something Charlie
Telling someone to watch a show for "facts" is crazy.😂
@@SamT-h7wthis is irrelevant and doesn’t disprove the point. The evidence shows overwhelming that Hitler was a Christian or at the very least had some twisted view of it and knew it could easily be weaponized which it has been used for before.
@@bengreene4972 Paying lip service to something doesn't mean you believe in that thing. Can a twisted view of something be considered the same thing?
hitler was not a practicing christian
@bengreene4972 He thought he was a god, that's not being Christian AT ALL.🤦♂️
Am I the first?
The millions of lives he attributes to Atheism, are more correctly attributed to Collectivism. Come on Charlie, try to do a little better, these things may work on ignorant college kids, but I was an Atheist well before you were born.
SO
What's sad here is you actually think you are right and smarter than Kirk.
Yeah, Charlie's faith can blind him to the truth sometimes.
@Snatchystashy yeah you wouldn't know the truth if it slapped you .
@colinmeehan791 so i'm more capable of discussing the subjects with him on a much higher level