Excellent video and much needed in these Aircraft. However why is it the opposite in jet aircraft as they use power for speed and attitude for descent? ....keep the videos coming, very good work.
They use it all at the same time to be honest as we kinda do in this video but it's easier to explain it as two separate things - even if they happen simultaneously
It’s a shame force feedback didn’t come with the Boeing Yoke. That would’ve made trimming a lot easier. It’s interesting that you suggest not trimming in bank, as we would in the 737. Is that because there’s less extreme aerodynamic forces in an aircraft like the ATR, meaning it should be easier to hold pitch with back pressure on the yoke?
Interesting point, and a question from it actually - in bank in the 737 is it auto-trimming? If it was a prolonged bank I'd trim to ease the back pressure but the point was made in the way I did to keep it easy (most flying the ATR it seems so far won't manually fly elements of the flight except takeoff and landing)
@@BritishAvgeek 'Morning, Thanks for the videos by the way, I always learn something new from this channel. As far as I know, in the 737, the auto trim responding to bank and pitch will only engage if the speed trim system is active (i.e: when in take off config) or in autopilot. I've been practising manual flight, that's why I've become more aware of and (hopefully) more proficient in trimming. It's kind of rough in the ATR though, I've found, as you only "hear" the trim when you've trimmed it a good few units. Whereas, in the 737, you hear every unit of change when trim is used, which makes it much more responsive imo. I guess that's a faulty gene inherited from Airbus engineering where you can mostly forget trim exists. Haha.
@@BritishAvgeek I am using Alpha Honeycomb. So I have buttons to do it but whatever MSFS or Spad binding the command elevator trim up/down is not working. I keep investigating tonight
@@franckybaker By default the alpha's nose trim is on the left side, its the two slide switches. You have to press them BOTH at the same time though. Hold for a second or so to have them kick in.
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Apparently, ATR pilots are constantly adjusting rudder trim with every power change
Thank you for another ATR video.
You're welcome! Was a discussion on this 2 days ago I think over on discord so thought it was a good topic to cover
Excellent video and much needed in these Aircraft. However why is it the opposite in jet aircraft as they use power for speed and attitude for descent?
....keep the videos coming, very good work.
They use it all at the same time to be honest as we kinda do in this video but it's easier to explain it as two separate things - even if they happen simultaneously
It’s a shame force feedback didn’t come with the Boeing Yoke. That would’ve made trimming a lot easier. It’s interesting that you suggest not trimming in bank, as we would in the 737. Is that because there’s less extreme aerodynamic forces in an aircraft like the ATR, meaning it should be easier to hold pitch with back pressure on the yoke?
Interesting point, and a question from it actually - in bank in the 737 is it auto-trimming? If it was a prolonged bank I'd trim to ease the back pressure but the point was made in the way I did to keep it easy (most flying the ATR it seems so far won't manually fly elements of the flight except takeoff and landing)
@@BritishAvgeek 'Morning, Thanks for the videos by the way, I always learn something new from this channel. As far as I know, in the 737, the auto trim responding to bank and pitch will only engage if the speed trim system is active (i.e: when in take off config) or in autopilot. I've been practising manual flight, that's why I've become more aware of and (hopefully) more proficient in trimming.
It's kind of rough in the ATR though, I've found, as you only "hear" the trim when you've trimmed it a good few units. Whereas, in the 737, you hear every unit of change when trim is used, which makes it much more responsive imo. I guess that's a faulty gene inherited from Airbus engineering where you can mostly forget trim exists. Haha.
Hello, thanks a lot for the video. I am not sure to follow 100% but I will keep watching. I don't find the command for trim up and down on the Alpha ?
Do you have a trim button anywhere on the yoke? Or a keybind you can set elsewhere for it?
@@BritishAvgeek I am using Alpha Honeycomb. So I have buttons to do it but whatever MSFS or Spad binding the command elevator trim up/down is not working. I keep investigating tonight
@@franckybaker By default the alpha's nose trim is on the left side, its the two slide switches. You have to press them BOTH at the same time though. Hold for a second or so to have them kick in.