Herm Edwards on why there are still so few Black head coaches in college football | OTL
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- Arizona State Sun Devils head coach Herm Edwards joins Jeremy Schaap on Outside the Lines to discuss why there are still so few Black head coaches in college football.
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This is like asking why are there so few white/hispanic/arab/asian/indian basketball/nfl players? 1.4 billion Indians and yet no one asks why there are none in the NBA? Cause its based on meritocracy, not race!
Well I mean Indian people and Asians don’t really play football 😂
@Bangarang 1 yea they do tho.
@@jordanmoss6488 Yeah Bangarang 1 really got you there. The point is, if it's due to racism you gotta actually provide the evidence. Instead, you're assuming the lack of representation is itself proof of racism. If that's the case, then the NBA is treating asians like the Third Reich treated the Jews haha.
Oh wow how could they possibly fire Vanderbilts head coach after such a successful season
So if he does a bad job that means all black coaches aren't good? Nice bigot logic. I'm pretty it's so hard to find bad white coaches.
@@dontdoittoyoself6786 he wasn’t saying that, but let’s not act like he was fired for his skin
Maryland hired Mike Locksley despite a 2-26 record while coaching at New Mexico..Even though he s a good recruiter,he still has only produced a 6-17 record during his first two seasons at Maryland..Who knows i'm sure they'll give him a couple more seasons to see what he can do.
@@dontdoittoyoself6786 you just don’t get it do you?
@@MegaSammy70 what if all the black players quit every sport?? What would the world do??
Why not interview AD’s and bring up specific individuals and have them explain their practices like the way these media outlets criticize the players about their decisions.
Hire people based on how good they are not their skin colour !!!!!!!
Um then it wouldn't be all white people.
@John Elway Elway can't even draft a QB but it's all good thanks to white privilege.
Herm edwards" I killed them all"
Shout out to Clemson OC Tony Elliot!
HERE'S A SOLUTION! Top tier talent/players of color stop going to school/conferences that don't have coaches of color. I promise you, change WILL come!
the problem wit that is even smaller schools and conferences lack color head coach’s and even if they did that would only create more pressure for a coach to produce and heighten there risk to get fire and with majority of the players and top players being black even if they when to smaller schools the smallers will eventually become power house and no different from the former big schools they left it creates a loop
@@fatantobelly9156 First if they are top tier talent, they CAN GO WHERE THEY WANT! Second, if you are Hispanic, you should want representation too. Imagine only 8 coaches in pro soccer in Mexico/America? HERE'S A FACT-you know when pro and college sports started opening their schools and teams to African Americans? It's when the teams that already did started winning more than them.
@@fatantobelly9156 Clearly you miss the point-LOL
@Sean Jones And yours about history.
@@mannymarveli6367 At the least the coach would have THE OPPORTUNITY to succeed or fail (which many don't now -ON ALL LEVELS!)
But there is zero Asian coaches
Hey hey hey! You better chill, we only talk about black people in 2020
Because there are none LoL
How many Asians, Middle Eastern, and Hispanics play football? How many schools where over a quarter of the players are Asian, Middle Eastern,and Hispanics? This is a micro aggressions of racism. Because to you black ppl don’t deserve these opportunities. You would rather not see black ppl at all. Guess what the very rights that the ASIAN, Middle Eastern and Hispanic enjoy in America was fought for by black ppl. Maybe you can start a football team in the Middle East, Asia or South America. You can see all the faces that look like you all you want.
The NCAA,NBA,NFL are 80% African American football players... what you don’t understand is most of these sports are majority black players
@@debothegod3277 don’t try to explain things to ppl who comment like this , they still don’t get it they never will lol
When Will Muschamp gets his 3rd head coaching job, remember this.
Out of 65 teams, 8 had black head coaches. That's 12%. Black people make up 13% of the population. That's nearly a perfect 1:1. Y'all are creating issues that don't exist an never did.
Its called institutional systematic racism people. Thats the truth pure plain and simple.
It also doesn't help black coaches when the people in charge of the programs want " their people " with them. Just to be clear, I'm talking about the Detroit Lions, who when they got a new GM fired Jim Cadwell, in favor of " his guy" Matt Patricia, and we know how that worked.
@Kristopher Longstreth okay but whats the point of firing someone if you're gonna hire someone worse. stfu
Obviously if your the new GM of the team you will want “your guys” instead of the people who helped get the old GM fired. You would rather succeed or fail with the people you choose and not what other people choose for you. Nothing to do with race at all
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Are you saying that Matt Patricia was hired because he is white? That is one wild accusation. Im sick and tired of low IQ people who victimizes themselves with racism whenever they see a possibility.
It was suck no matter what. Jim Caldwell was a joke. Point me to the "good" black coaches. Mike Tomlin aaannnnddddd done. That was a short list.
@@joshydep84 That was racially bias and Brian Flores is on that list too
It's the booster clubs and the "tradition" of the schools. If your not selling season tickets, winning games, and develop the programs culture your fired. No matter record, bowl appearances, or bowl wins.
It’s not about race, it’s about who’s the best for the job.
Coaches get hired for merit.
My Gators OC Brian Johnson will be a HC soon
Facts
Money talks and the first thing I ever learned in college was about networking. It's all about who you know.
It's an obvious answer. It's because the people in power are white. And human beings tend to employ similar people. It's easy to fall into, and easy to understand. Will it change??? Not if there's no rule change. Does it need to change? It depends... I don't like when under qualification becomes the norm, because inept leadership is probably the worst thing when it comes to pro sports.
Blacks need there own that will fix the problem
@Bangarang 1 if there weren't institutions in place already? i think it would work out pretty easily. gotta get to a world where whites don't own everything though...
Let's force more white players in the NBA while we at it. 🤔
I know they're trying, but when those white players take L after L vs blacks in plain sight with nothing to confuse the situation( they're getting beat like drums on the court)...it's kind of hard for them to get in.
@@thetrib1 so what happened to Racial equality?? So u can say the same thing about black coaches in the NFL and college. 🤔
@@bfhrd503x7 extremely stupid and pointless comparison, you draft nba players by performance, if you perform well enough you are guaranteed to get into the pros whether white or black, while on the other hand schools can just choose who to let be their coach however they’d like, you racists can’t even come up with a way to convey your racist thoughts that makes any sense, one thing you guys are great at is complaining tho, you can always count on one of you guys to be top level whiners 👍🏽
@@bfhrd503x7 what do you mean by "Racial equality"? has that ever existed? i don't think so. equal opportunity has never existed either. but winning and losing in sports does exist. and when a team keeps losing games when they have all white players because they won't allow any other race, while the other teams have a mix based off merit through competition then it's time to change the game plan right?
"So u can say the same thing about black coaches in the NFL and college. 🤔" I don't know what you mean...you're losing me.
Well white players need to become more athletic to complete at the NBA level. It's called genetics which it's a big difference between Black NBA players vs White NBA players! 🤷🏾♂️
He didnt Answer the question!
He plays to win the game. He doesn't play to just play it. When winning doesn't matter then retire
Coaching candidates are built on credentials not only skin color
So much race baiting all the time
0:30 Playing and coaching are different things 🤦🏻♂️
I’m sorry we don’t need race in sports I could care less if your coach white or black sorry its sports it who ever is good
you cant win or people feelings get hurt.
@@kingpinsmith22 omg
LMAO, I read it as blackhead coaches.
You coach to win the game
So, how many Asian head coaches do we have in the NFL? Latino? Indian? women? How about Native American?
Anybody see the laughable hypocrisy here?
The Pac12 looks good to me Right on Big Ten
Black player control this narrative. When high school player start going to Black Universities it will change the mind of WPI;s make no misunderstanding it all about money and winning.
I just realized James Franklin is black
wow.. the like to dislike ratio will show you why this type of situation still occurs. too many people are ignorant
@Bangarang 1 not a problem to you cause it doesn't matter to you. it's been a problem, and it will continue if not checked.
"I don’t see white people complaining because the majority of players in the NBA and NFL are black." it's cause they're not good enough...we all know that. there's no good ol boys netwoork keeping them out. if white people are good enough they'll get in...remember...it wasn't that way for non white players at the start.
funny thing is is I don't really blame the people making the hires. I'd hire the person I'm familiar with over the person i'm not if they are similarly qualified. That's human nature. it's more about the general Idea that anyone can become apart of the higher ups.. not necessarily just blacks. the black example gets stressed because how obvious the percentage difference in coaching and players is.
do you understand?
@Bangarang 1 "If were talking percentages then dont blacks make up 13% of the population? So percentage wise when it comes to black coaches in college it matches right up. " haha. it hurts when intelligent people feign ignorance just because they don't believe in a cause. it's ok! there being more black coaches won't negatively affect your livelihood.
if we were talking percentages we would be talking about how it's 60% african american labor force, and less than 10% of the head coaches are black. so even for your us population number of about 13% is still more than the head coaches.
"So what’s the problem?" for you? there isn't a problem it seems. for me? not to much either.. i prefer more black head coaches but i'm selfish..i want black every thing.. lol. For the people in waiting it matters though. the people looking to become coaches in college football is extremely difficult if you don't have a connect.
"Also if we’re gonna go with the “because they’re not good enough” theory then perhaps the same could be said about black coaches?" oh man that hurts. it's not a theory first of all, and second of all whites have had no issue with getting into college football. they have been beatin out of the overwhelming majority by simply being less than at the sport. nothing else. For the coaches...there's no qualification based on merit that can be measured...it's simply a trust thing. you can teach 6 year olds about football, but passion... control of a situation... communication skills, etc.. can't really be judged until seen in certain situations. situations that can't be duplicated or demoed. it's why i don't blame the employers for getting "their guys" in the building...cause they're more trustworthy off the fact that they know them. that's really hard to compete against.
And you are definitely one of those ignorant people. Congrats.
@Bangarang 1 lol i agree. I shouldn't waste time with the people that want regress and not progress. that's my bad. you should be ignored
@Bangarang 1 same
Bruh maybe its because of their record as a head coach!
Look that up. Compare the Black Records in the NFL vs White Records %
There are a ton of white coaches that have dismal records
Who cares, Im tired of hearing about black coaches. Well I think their should be more white players, works both ways.
gotta earn your spot as a player(get better white players). gotta network as a coach(make sure you have ties to powerful old white men black coaches). doesn't work both ways.
Have you ever hear of qualifications and credentials for a job, it doesn't go by your appearance. All espn is trying to do is stir the pot for more racial tension. I mean nothing ever good enough, if all the coaches were african american in collage then it would be the next thing. Omg theirs not enough black athletic directors ohhh no.
@@MrJamer47 "Have you ever hear of qualifications and credentials for a job, it doesn't go by your appearance" that's funny. have you ever had friends? do you know that powerful people have friends? do you know that those powerful people hook up their friends or people they're involved with? do you know that most powerful people in america are white, and that most of their friends are white?
it's not science...well maybe it is. but it's not difficult to understand how higher ups get jobs in sports. it's through relationships.
those qualifications you speak of... what are they for coaches?? for players it's easy.. have eligibility, and be good enough to be on the team...then theirs tiers. stars, starters, role players, bench warmers, redshirts, etc.. everyone earns their keep on the field. and if you aren't better than another you will be replaced! that's simple. for a coach...you can't really line up and go 1 on 1 with another coach.. you need a resume, or a chance to start a respectable one.. that's where the big issue is. not enough opportunities to create a portfolio.
"I mean nothing ever good enough, if all the coaches were african american in collage then it would be the next thing. Omg theirs not enough black athletic directors ohhh no" lol that's very true...wonder if we'll ever get there. there's so much bitching and moaning about minorities bitching and moaning, like they've gotten what they've asked for when they haven't.
reverse the coaching field. and I don't think you'll hear much from the minorities...until then cover your ears, 'cause it won't stop
@@thetrib1 first of all I'm one of the minorities tired of hearing everything revolving around race. And just a side note we all dont think the same, plenty out their who think just like me. So who cares I dont judge others in their respected position its what it is. Go and be one of those Social justice warriors ehhhh😂🤣 just like what he said GIVE IT UP.
@Bangarang 1 ditto
This is why espn is a joke
The espn website has the worst articles. I stopped visiting the espn website when they put a college football article with the headline lack of black coaches in the SEC.
ESPCNN again
Will ESPN ever stop stirring the pot? ESPN why you feel the need to keep causing racial tension. For christ sake, just stop.
they just relay the information.. you should be going at the system of racism within america. i blame that much more than i'll blame a sports news station
@@thetrib1 🙄
Stirring the pot ? For bringing up the amount of black coaches? If that’s stirring the pot for you there is a problem within yourself
Bangarang 1 huh?
@@b.rivero444 sup River, I do blame them less than the actual issue. i don't complain about fox, cnn, msnbc, because I know what their jobs are. they don't create stuff out of thin air. they make certain things more important for them and focus on things maybe more than they should, but again it doesn't come out of thin air. there's a source behind their content
Less white reporter's reporting at espn would go a long way.
The truth is why does it matter The only thing that matter is if their is something that’s making less black people getting a coaching job if their is not this whole video is race baiting
Not many intelligent thoughts in the comment section.. just say " I dunno "
the pack 12 is literally the worst conference so u cant argue in their favor rn
Its always been that way even when it was the Pac 10 when there were no black coaches.
The pac conference has always been weak.
To get more black OCs, we need more black QBs.
Why are there so few White players?
Because there are more black players qualified to make it in the nfl than white players.
Herm & Tony dingy are field goal coaches.
whats up with Democrats being so racist.
here's a thought, hire somebody who is a good coach, not someone based on the color of their skin
Here we go...
No such thing as racism . A party is either right or wrong , good or evil in a situation .
207th comment herm u better have better record or u out the door at least make it to pac12 champ game big profile coach no success
8/65=12% that’s the same percentage of blacks in the entire us.
Next thing:
Why aren't more walls in houses black?
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I can't read numbers so idk
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@@withallduerespect5258 I got sloppy seconds!!
Lovely Smith deserved 1 more year Amazing Leader in with this Cov19 going on i think he'll get another job
He had no business leaving the NFL and in college the job you take is very important.
Maybe a lot of black coaches aren’t very good
White people are qualified to be better head coaches and black people are more qualified to be better athletes, OC coordinators, or DC coordinators.
Why dont blacks do a better job of becoming coaches? Seems like that is the solution.
You just gotta accept the fact that black coaches are mediocre most of the time once they get hired as a head coach.
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This is a huge race bait. Just be better coaching should not be around race. You can’t get a job because of race. Be better then assistants and foster relationships with players and then your time will come
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funny once a developed country already full in stomach, this is what u discuss.
cause white coaches are better lol
Your ignorance is sad
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@@mikeJones-gz6kh so people are forced to sign black coaches even if there not good?
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