Panasonic Lumix G9 review part 1 of 3: design and controls
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- Part 1 of my Panasonic Lumix G9 in-depth review! This covers design and controls. Part 2 covers handling and autofocus, and Part 3 covers photo and video quality.
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Hi everyone! In the video I comment that the charger uses a Micro USB cable that's different from the USB 3 port on the camera; I've since confirmed one half of a USB 3 port can be used with a normal Micro USB cable, so it is possible to use the cable supplied with the charger to connect to the G9 and charge or power it. I've also confirmed that it is possible to power the G9 over USB (and you can use the supplied AC adapter and cable to do it), but there needs to be a battery fitted, it needs to have some charge already in it, and you need 'USB Power Supply' enabled in the menus.
Gordon Laing Panasonic also has tethering software for Windows Ana Mac.
Yep, I hope to try it this week...
Wish they had gone with USB type C, my only real disappointment feature/spec wise
Hi Gordon would you recommend this camera for professional photography.
Another excellent review. As a side note, I don't mind the change in format. There is still about an hour of show, no more or less than before, and auto play takes care of having to find the next part.
Thanks Gordon!
Crumbs! Great review! :)
Gordon, the micro 2.0 USB-B cable with the charger CAN also charge the camera. Part of the USB 3.0-B port is a standard 2.0B. Also, the camera can be powered via USB, but a battery does have to be in the camera with some charge.
Thanks for the clarification on the connectors Sean, I overlooked the micro portion of the USB 3 port. I'm still not sure about the power over USB though. I tried it and it charged ok over USB, but as soon as the camera turned on, it seemed to take the power from the battery, not the USB port. But I'd like to check this again.
Gordon Laing in the settings menu on page 3/5 there is an option for "USB Power Supply" this enables running off usb power. But, there does have to be a battery with some charge in it to run.
Thanks, I'll check that out...
I was just going to come in here and say the same thing. My old Samsung phone did the same thing - could use USB3 - but it also charged (more slowly) with the USB mini port. nice!
Hi Sean, I have a G9 back for retesting and have confirmed everything you said! So yes it is possible to connect a Micro USB cable to one half of the USB 3 socket (how I forgot that I don't know!) and it is possible to power the camera over USB under the conditions you mention. I've added a pinned comment to note this. Thanks again for your feedback.
Thanks Gordon. Good video.
I'm just trying to decide whether to buy a G9 to augment my Olympus OMD EM 1 Mk II now that the prices on the G9 have come down. Seems like a very worthwhile purchase at current prices,
8:25 I love the soft release on my 7D mkii, I wish it was on our 80D too, but as a big guy it's definitely not hard to rip off 10 shots accidentally while trying to focus.
Which camera was used to film Gordon in this review? I find it difficult to see the details of the G9 body during the video. Under-exposed and hard to see the nuances of the body design. There's a lack of sharpness in the footage to me.
For these skype interviews I just use the camera in my MacBook Pro.
For the battery charger issue with usb cable. You can use the battery charger and it's USB cable to plug into a USB battery pack. Thus, no need to charge the battery in the G9, you can do it off the grid with the battery charger and a USB battery pack.
Hello Gentlemen. I have to say to both of you, that you are by far, the most thorough educated source, when it comes to the reviews of, and the knowledge of every type of camera and support equipment that I can even think of. Thank you both so much for taking the time to do something to help us, the general public, try to use the advice and knowledge that you offer, so that we may try to choose the right equipment for whatever the intended use.
Last year, I purchased a Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX10, for the purpose of bringing along with me on my backpacking and hiking/exploring trips. I was, and still am extremely impressed with it's abilities. The camera itself still has many functions that I beleive can be taken advantage of for thier own purpose, by furthering my own education, by completely finish reading it's downloadable 308 page users manual.
This is the first camera that I have owned since the 1990's, when I was the proud owner of a Cannon Rebel 35mm film camera.
My use of this small, yet somewhat powerful LX10 has really created a personal bias toward the Lumix cameras due to it's abilities in the 4k photo arena, such as the 4K post focus, and pre-burst etc....that I still haven't seen any of the other manufacturers meet the same technology on their own platforms. Please correct me if I am wrong.
I have yet to even attempt focus stacking on my LX10, if it does in fact have the capabilities. I beleive that I remember watching Gordan take advantage of this feature with the Lumix LX10, in a bar, with a line of beer bottles. It was very interesting to see. It has has been a bit of time, so I may be wrong about those details.
I know that my comment has become extremely long winded, but I mention most of it as a lead into the personal dilemma which I will very soon be facing.
I want to purchase a larger, more capable camera body that has the ability to change, and make full use of lenses of quality build, and quality functions. I have shot quite a lot of video with my LX10 and find it very entertaining, yet I still just absolutely love shooting stills of landscape and wildlife photos to the best of my ability. Because of this, I am leaning toward the ever popular new Panasonic Lumix G9, or even possibly the GH5. However the auto focus abilities of the GH5 do cause me some concern( I don't know the AF tech. Reasons why, but I see that a model of he Cannon cameras have a dominate AF ability), I don't know anything about the AF abilities on the newer Lumix GH5S. Has it been improved? Are any of these few camera bodies that I have mentioned, in your own personal opinions, a good choice for the type of photography that I like to shoot? Or do you think that another brand of camera platform will better suit my personal photography style? And if you choose to do so, please explain why you believe this way. I have a difficult way with understanding all of the numbers and technological aspects, so please, if you do choose to do so, a dumbed down version would be much easier for me to wrap my head around until I learn more about why things do what they are doing.
I do okay, I think, so far with the small amount of basic fundamentals that I am familiar with.
I am requesting information on which types of lenses would best suit my needs. Possibly a decent prime lense, shorter telephoto type of lense and a longer distance type of lense. I must have the camera body and lenses to be sealed, and to be weather and dust resistant. Image stabilization in the camera body is a must have also, preferably the lenses as well. The ability to interchange lenses made by different manufacturers is very much desired. It must also have double memory card slots, preferably both able to utilize the UHS-ii V90 high gigabit memory cards.
Hopefully the time is coming very soon that I will be in the position to make these purchases. And I will mention Camera labs during the purchase too. I would like to thank you both in advace.
Very Respectfully,
JW
Hi JW, thanks for your considered comments! I found the AF on the G9 to be fine in my tests for tracking subjects like cyclists approaching me or basic birds in flight. I haven't had the chance to try it with anything faster yet, but if your subjects don't move too quickly I can assure you it will be fine. Go to cameralabs.com/blog and check out the photos I took in SA with the G9 - none of it moving very quickly, or at all, but it proves it works for a lot of wildlife. If you're shooting birds flying quickly towards you then you may want something faster. Most obviously the Olympus OMD EM1 II, or perhaps one of the Sonys as they have great AF. Have a look at my mirrorless buyers guides at cameralabs and also my lens guides for some ideas. Happy to discuss further once you've explored a few options, and thanks for offering to buy through my affiliate links, it really helps! (for this to work, you need to click through to Amazon, B&H or Adorama via the links I publish here and on my reviews before ordering)
Thank you for the quick reply and information. I will go look at those images right now.
Okay. I just went to your sight and looked through the still photos. I love them. I absolutely loved the very first photo. The soft appearance of the water is amazing! The wildlife photos were so impressive. There is so much clarity in the colors that mother nature blessed the wildlife with. Especially the birds and reptiles. I did particularly like the shots you got of the Turkey Vulture leaving it's perch on the bare tree . I really like the way the detail was so crisp in even the shadowy darkened areas under his right wing. The color detail in its feathers, beneath his wing still showed a great amount of clear detail, even with the natural dark colors of it's feathers.
About the lizard. Another amazing photo. It looked to me as if the point of focus was directly upon his right eye. But it's not like the rest of the lizard just became completely out of focus beyond that. It appeared to me as if the focus VERY subtlety fades awat on it's way back into that great boque, making his leg look almost like part of where he was sitting or even part of some type of under brush.
The photos of all of the buildings were also very interesting. I liked them quite a lot. However, they were so crisp and detailed to my eyes that they were somewhat visually overwhelming and difficult for my to focus on. They seemed to be very busy.
Were all of these taken with the Panasonic Leica 12-60 that was with the camera during the reveiws? Again, beautiful shots!
Thanks for visiting my site! Most of the wildlife images were taken with the Leica 200mm f2.8. There's a few in there with the 12-60mm as well. i think i mentioned the lens in use in the text.
Hi Gordon. I think I will spend some time today researching the Olympus camera bodies. As I haven't yet explored your entire site, I hope that you don't mind if I just ask questions directly to you.
Before I ask them, if I didn't mention before, that I carry a pretty serious bias toward the Panasonic, because of their 4k and now even 6k abilities. Not even so much for their outright video production capabilities, but more so because of the 4k still capabilities, even though they are essentially still recordings. I find the 4k pre-burst and post focus functions to be a deciding factor and direct cause for my bias towards the Panasonic. However, I haven't been very impressed with the Panasonic AF capabilities. I only have this information from watching the reviews, and consumer complaints of their unreliable AF capabilities, especially with the GH5, even with the firmware upgrade. Have they fixed this with the GH5s?
Are there any other manufacturers of a micro 4/3 or APSC system that have these 4k post focus and pre-burst capabilities, in the same price point? Now I really do enjoy my LX10, which has these abilities, but as you know, the lense can not be changed, their is no EVF for those annoying sun cover issues that interfere with the LCD,(besides, I was brought up on the view finder style cameras, and I am just much more comfortable using them). Also the smaller sensor. I also notice a lot of noise in many of my photos shot with my LX10. I beleive that some of the noise issues are due to user error and could possibly be remedied, if only the camera itself would allow FULL manual control. Which it does not.
I apologize for bouncing around so much, but I just have so much to communicate with you that I loose my line of thought.(I should just fly over there and pay you for a course in photography. I've always wanted to see the UK. LOL!)
Now, without having to explore every type of lense by every manufacturer that may interchange between csmera bodies. Would you be willing to suggest some lenses for the panasonic G9 system, and the Olympus Om-D cameras, specifically the OM-D E-M1 II, and if they are interchangeable with or without an adapter. Also, is there an adapter or teleconverter adapter available that will allow the different cameras OIS systems to accept and successfully use the OIS systems built into the lenses of the other lense manufacturers?
Now this question is way off base, but would you by chance know a reputable vendor of camera equipment, both new and used, that would be willing to sell to me some good equipment and export it to the USA? I saw a G9 and Lense bundle for sale over there for approximately $800 less in Euros, than in US dollars if I were to purchase it here in the USA because of currency difference. That's just rediculous! (Although I'm not educated about how all of that currency exchange works). That company told me that they will not sale equipment to the US. Is there someone over there who does deal with US citizens?
Thanks again for reading my comments. And also, thanks to you too Doug!
Hi Gordon. I was just watching your G9 review for about the 3rd time and you were a little flummoxed about why Panasonic would put a MicroUSB connector on the charger but a USB3 connector in the camera, thereby requiring 2 cables. As well informed as you are, you have probably heard this by now, but just incase, micro USB male connectors fit very nicely in the larger side of USB3 females. It will definitely charge your camera, I assume it just sacrifices the data transfer. So, there you go. Just one cable needed. BTW, thanks for what you do. You are an amazing resource as well as a nice guy. Can't beat that!
OK, I should've reread the comments before enlightening you. Story of my life. A day late and a dollar short. :-)
no problem! As it happens, I'm charging a G9 right now using half of the USB 3.1 port, so I've learned my lesson!
I noticed the pincushion distortion in the EVF (12:40). Does it look like that when viewing through the EVF? Or is that the result of how it is captured for the video?
You replied in another comment "most of that distortion is from my phone". When you say "most", does it mean there is some pincushion distortion you see with your eyes?
Hi, Can you switch off IS from the body of the camera ?
Hi Gordon,
congrats for the detailed review. I own a GH5, but I mostly shoot stills and plan to buy a G9. I noticed that the top LCD doesn't show the current mode (M, A, S ...). It would be useful to know if you are in the expected mode.
I wonder if the exposure meter is permanently active regardless of current mode and not only in M with iso auto = OFF. The problem I have with GH5 is that in any of the automatic modes exposition meter is "disabled" and replaced with the useless +/-0 sign even if camera cannot expose properly, so you always must half press the shutter only to see if digits are red blinking before shooting. What do you think about this behaviour? BTW Olympus and Sony always show exposition meter if camera cannot assure a proper exposure in any mode.
I agree, I'd have liked to see the mode indicated on the LCD.
Gordon Laing Thank you for your comment. What about the second part of my post?
I'm assuming the USB 3 on camera is there for tethering to a pc/mac/tablet for faster review?
Yes, that's correct.
Great review thanks, can't wait for part 2, one question, you mentioned that you recorded 2 and half hours of 4k video with the G9, isn't the maximum recording time limited to 30 minutes?
Yes, each clip is limited to 30 mins on the G9 - I just recorded five separate clips, one after the other, making 2.5 hours in total before the battery ran out.
PS - parts 2 and 3 are already ready to watch!
Thank you very much for the response Gordon, watching them today -
to do the 2 hours recording did you have to repress the record button after the camera stopped recording immediately? or did you wait (how much time)? also did the camera just split the files for you and started recording a new file automatically?
You need to start the recording again by pressing the record button, but you can do so immediately. Note half an hour is possible in 4k up to 30p, but at 50p or 60p, it's limited to 10 minute clips.
I bought one (used) in the UK for £633.00 - amazing how quickly prices drop
what would be the best pro lenses for the G9 [particularly for stills] for traveling as I am planning to go to Egypt, and I may use some of my photos commercially? I think the 42.5 f 1.7 would be one or Olympus 42.5 f 2.8 which is a lot dearer, what other lenses you think ?
Well remember the 2x field reduction, so 42mm would become 84mm and therefore a short telephoto for things like portraits. if you're shooting landscapes, you'll want something wider. The Leica 12-60mm kit zoom is a really good general purpose option...
Thanks for the reply, I thought the 80 mm focal length is the optimum length for portraits. the 12-60 is out of the question for the simple reason it is not constant aperture and a bit slow at f2.8.
Yes 80 to 100mm is great for portraits, but on MFT bodies, that actually means using 40 to 50mm due to the sensor size. I agree about wanting prime lenses for their brighter apertures, but you'll obviously need a few to cover popular focal lengths. I personally carry a 17mm (34mm equivalent), 25mm (50mm equiv) and 45mm (90mm equiv), and complement them with an ultra wide 7-14mm zoom. There's loads of good options available for this system - here's my guide: www.cameralabs.com/best-micro-four-thirds-lenses/
thank you so much, will have look at your guide.
I was getting excited when Panasonic included the USB-C port on the GH5 that it would trickle down to other cameras in the line-up and finally replace the ancient micro-USB. I guess I was wrong... Such a shame.
Hello again. In your experience with the G9, do you think it is in need of an external microphone? Was the internal microphone powerful enough to hear clearly at 10-15 feet away? If not, have you had any experience using externals, and what brand would you recommend?
Also, can you recomend a desktop that is capable in showing greag, clear resolution and clean color for post? What is your opinion on Apple Imac systems? I've heard rumor that they are good if you can use the tools correctly.
Hi JW, 10-15 feet is quite far for audio. The G9's built-in mics are fine for recording voices up to about 6 foot, but beyond that you're going to hear more of the surrounding ambient sound - same for all cameras with built-in mics. If you want to record voices, you need to get a mic as close to them as possible. A good compromise if you don't want to bother with lapel / lavalier mics is to use a shotgun mic that has a very narrow direction, so mostly records what it's pointed at and little to the sides. I'd recommend models by Rode, like the VideoMic Pro+.
As for computers, you can happily edit with Windows or Mac systems. If you want accurate colour, it's more down to the monitor than the computer.
Hi Gordon. Thank you for the reply. I have looked at the Rode microphones because the actually have them at the local photo shop here. So next question about them, I saw the smallest model(around $60), and the next level up from that(around $100). Forgive me for not having model numbers handy. My lack of understanding about the sound wave charts that they have in their descriptions on Amazon, what type of distance will they record with good clarity. Am I better off just stepping up to the next higher level from the smallest one for amateur use only? I would like to be able to record myself announcing progress reports from a short distance from the camera when I start filming more backpacking trips and would like some decent sound quality. Thanks as usual. Have a cup.
You have to choose the right model as some are designed to only 'listen' to things in front of them, whereas others are designed to listen to sound from all around. if you're recording a voice, you want the former, a shotgun type microphone. From Rode you should get the VideoMic Pro or VideoMic Pro+. Either would do.
Are the lenses compatible with the Olympus OMD cameras? If so, do they work well with the Olympus cameras and do Olympus lenses work well with the G9 and G5?
Yes to all
Hi Gordon,
Great REview, I've seen you can use the camera with the USB 3 for powering the unit, the only thing is you need the battery in the unit. Can you check if this is correct? I saw on another TH-cam video that was the case :)
I've got the G9 back for more tests and can confirm this: for USB power to work, you do need a battery inside the camera and it needs some charge in it too. There's also a menu to enable it.
Gordon Laing awesome
Is the G 9 pretty good in low light or should I go with the S1 full frame
Have a look at my image quality review
The Shell Oil joke made me laugh
it was either that or, er, um...
The odd mix of outdated usb ports threw me off as well. Really confused why they didn't go usb 3.1 with type-c ports.
I really like your vid and your way to present the cam! Thanks for your detailed findings and point of view. But please Gordon think about investing in a better mic and a better lighting. Sound is nearly at phone call level quality and the position of the light above you throws a harsh shadow downwards.
I agree about the lighting, I need to sort that out! The audio is good at my end, but unfortunately recording it as a skype phone call does hammer the quality.
@Gordon Laing Ah, now I understand. So that might also be the reason for the better vid quality in the videos which are no podcast. Nonetheless I watched all three videos, loved them! You got such a lively and inspired way to talk, which makes up the technical weakness by far. I Subscribed to your channel.
Thanks, glad to have you here!
Hey Gordon, I really appreciate the work you do, but have to be honest with you, but I prefer the reviews you do on your own and that aren't split up. This format is just too long.
I try to do something for everyone, short videos, long videos, short written, long written, Just consume the ones you enjoy!
Gordon, the G9 manual says "If you connect the camera to a power outlet or PC while the camera is turned on, power can be supplied via the USB connection cable (supplied)" - why do you think otherwise ? Also there appears to be quite a bit of pincusion distortion in the evf, is that really the case ?
I really need to reconfirm this as there's conflicting info around and in my own tests it didn't work. To be fair, the battery I tried the test with was run down in order to check if the camera could be powered over USB. As I said, this didn't work for me, but maybe there needs to be some juice in the battery first.
PS most of that distortion is from my phone.
I've got the G9 back for retesting and can confirm you can power it over USB. You need to have a battery in the camera with some charge in it though, and you also need to enable it in a menu.
Billy, I understand of the aperture/lighting/composure matrix. I'm located on Cape Cod where bird life is plentiful. I what to obtain a camera/lens that is easy to travel with and will optimize birds-in-flight imaging opportunities. Open to any and all suggestions
Hi Bill, I've replied to this with my suggestions on your other post...
Guys, I love you, but this split format isn’t a good idea at all, it really spoils the appeal of the show
I'd love it if most people watched all the way to the end, but my stats showed literally only a handful did. The YT algorithm favours publishers who's videos are watched all the way, so I had to split them or no-one would see them. I have uploaded all three parts at the same time though so they're ready to go, and the audio podcast version is a single uninterrupted file if you prefer.
Interesting. I always watched them all the way, and will keep watching whatever format you chose for sure. You are right uploading all 3 at the same time does help I add them in my playlist like that. Keep up the good work and thank you
I must be one of the "few" that watch the videos all the way to the end. Excellent videos with tons of info. But I too would like one complete video...
How difficult is it to watch 3 on the trot ! Some people will complain about anything.
Not difficult. But I guess someone is not allowed to say anything different considering that is how they were done before now.
Is it true that the high res mode is electronic shutter only?
Yes
Thanks, I'm torn between this and the Olympus EM1 MkII. I'm mostly a stills photographer.
Hi. You mention that you dont think there has been another mirrorless camera with a top panel...have you forgotten the Samsung NX1 ;-)
Busted! Yep, I'd forgotten the Samsung models because I never got to review any of them!
Sadly, *still no multi-aspect ratio sensor,* Panasonic's brilliant design to be able to shoot in *4:3, 3:2 and 16:9 in full field of view* and max megapixels - which is a game changer for me. Since the 3:2 mirror box is gone, why not Panasonic? If they're going to compete against full frame, this should be a no brainer.
I agree that they should try something different, but I do have to say the image quality from this is their best yet.
Gordon, you seem to be the only reviewer who understands the significance of multi-aspect. So you know what we're missing when we're only allowed to capture the center and some more of what the lens sees. If the sensor was multi-aspect, the field of view in 3:2 and 16:9 would be much wider with the same lens, and still would be close to 20MP.
Especially since 16:9 is popular for video, how can they not do multi-aspect. Cropping 16:9 for 4:3 seems a shame especially.
M43 is largely about getting as much as possible from a smaller body and lenses. Multi-aspect is an easy way to narrow the gap full frame.
I find choosing the best aspect ratio while taking the shot delightfully creative. Being stuck in any one single aspect ratio is like being in prison after getting used to multi-aspect. But nobody seems to care.
Artistic creativity doesn't get much air play.
let's keep plugging at them Jeff!
Hi Gordon. I have the Panasonic Leica 12-60 f/2.8-4 that you suggested. It just showed up today. The G9 shouldn't be to far out. I would like your advice again on a small lense, very wide angle, but not that it will create a cats eye effect. I would also like it to be something in the f/1.7 range that won't break the bank. Now I still haven't figured out what all of the letter disignations mean, ( i,e vario, elmarit, dg, d etc...). However I am working on it. weather resistace is also extremely important. Does what I'm asking exist? Thanks man.
I'm presuming you want it to be wider than your 12-60 at 12mm? If so, there are a lot of great wide zooms available, but most prime lenses (non-zooms) start at 12mm, so won't give you anything wider than you already have. But they will be smaller. Let me know what you think.
Thanks Gordon. I see your point with 12mm small, I just wonder if a smaller lense will distort at the edges. I'll judt sesrch around some more anf see if therebis something different. I just want to be able to get very clean wide angle shots of large open landscapes. Thanks again!
I can highly recommend the Leica 8-18mm zoom: amzn.to/2E1W9OS - it's not f1.7, but it does go very wide and delivers great quality. It's my favourite landscape and architecture lens for Panasonic and Olympus cameras.
Sorry to beat this thred to death Gordon. I don't know how to begin s new thread. Will all micro 4/3 lenses interchange with each other? You have made it clear thag Olympus and Panasonic will, but what about lenses like Fuji or Pentax, Sony and such, interchanging wth my G9 body? Thanks Gordon.
Hi JW, it is possible to adapt lenses from other systems, but you generally lose performance, so I would stick with 'native' micro four thirds lenses: those from Panasonic and Olympus mainly. Note Leica DG lenses are designed for MFT so they're native and actually manufactured by Panasonic.
Wow.disappointed that the camera can't run off of USB. I thought that was killer feature for time lapse.
it didn't work in my test, but I'm still not 100% sure about it. I'm hoping there may be a condition where it will work, and I'll update this revierw if I have any more info!
Gordon Laing thanks. I thought I heard some of the Panasonic reps mention the feature too. Did you try it without a battery or with? So maybe the camera could still operate with battery, but would be charging as it is used? I could see it not working if no battery inserted.
See 14:15 here:th-cam.com/video/7BflxbcTWEo/w-d-xo.html
Hi Marc, I've got the G9 back for testing and can confirm it WILL work with USB power. You need to have a battery fitted inside with some charge in it, and also enable the option in the menu,
Gordon Laing thanks Gordon. I have my G9 and also can confirm it works. Thanks.
I think your comments about the USB ports don't make any sense. I think their decisions were perfect in that regard. Everyone has a micro USB cable because Android. That makes it convenient for the charger to have the same plug. And, hardly anyone uses USB C even though its been around for a while. I think the USB 3 port on the camera makes sense. It's physically robust and very common. Anyway. Thats my subjective opinion.
You're right. I made a mistake while chatting off the cuff here, and only realised later that half of a USB port is actually just a standard Micro USB port and it can be used with a standard Micro USB cable. In fact I'm doing it right now to charge the battery in the G9. I updated my written review at cameralabs, but it's harder to update videos here. I did post a pinned comment though, so hopefully you can see that!
I prefer Gordon’s short overviews. If I need more details I would rather read about it...
Well I do it all! So there's the short first looks videos, the long in-depth videos and the even longer written reviews. Just pick the bits you want!
It feels to me like marketing differentiation by crippling. There is no technical reason why the G9 could not be a true flagship with all the best features from GH5 and G9, even at a slightly higher price, but Panasonic wants you to buy *two* different bodies, so they're giving you a finger. That really turns me off to Panasonic.
I hear you, but if you want unlimited recording time, there's a lot more tax to pay on it, so it would cost more than the GH5 and Panasonic probably thinks that's too much for a camera like this. There's also the fact most people who really need 10 bit 4k are specialist videographers who aren't as bothered by the extra stills capabilities of the G9.
There are also some technical differences in respect of cooling - this is why the G9 is lighter than the GH5.
Thank you both for replying. In that case I will wait for GH6 and see if it incorporates the still advantages of the G9, thus becoming the true flagship again. If it does not, then I will stick by my disdain of marketing games.
mountainhobo You are talking nonesense. Nobody would need to buy the G9 and GH5. Both are extremely capable of stills and video, which one you choose depends on whether one is primarily a photographer or videographer.
"Nobody would need to buy the G9 and GH5. Both are extremely capable of stills and video" - No, you are wrong. Stop. G9 is not the video flagship for Panasonic. That may change in the future, but it is not now. If you do not understand it, that's fine, but please refrain from telling others they are talking nonsense.