I like how Laura chose Command from her spell list - realized it might not help her case - then decided it was totally something Jester would do anyways.
DEFINITION: CULT noun A religion or sect considered to be unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader.
@BookwormPunk Poor Laura lol first Rogue got taken from her by Liam during the first campaign, and Travis took Warlock for this campaign. She should get first pick next time
I like to go with the idea that the traveler thought he was creating a warlock and was shocked when Jester manifested cleric powers. The Traveler made Jester a Cleric but Jester put the Traveler on the path to being at least a minor deity.
I really like the idea of using Cleric domains as Warlocks though I mean, for example, lets say your patron is a super technological abomination, well, there's no Warlock subclass for that. Except there is, Forge Domain Let's say your patron is an old force of nature, an arch druid or magnificent beast though, there's no Warlock subclass for that. Except there is, Nature Domain And so on, and so forth
Grey Shard Literally everyone denies they're in a cult, whether they're actually in a cult or not. Are girl scouts in a cult? No, and yet their answer to "are you in a cult" will be exactly the same as someone in a cult. Rational person: Are you in a cult? Girl scout: I'm not in a cult! scientologist: I'm not in a cult! heaven's gate acolyte: I'm not in a cult! Your precept is asinine.
I like how absolutely no one ever gave the traveler a second thought, and the second it was suggested that maybe newer gods could be a little dangerous, everything changed. I’m worried about traveler con, some weird cult shit is going to happen there I swear to god
Grace I've been saying the Traveler is a piece of trash cult leader since before he pretended to help Jester escape from the Iron Shepherds. I'm really not sure why anyone thought differently, he's horribly manipulative and his rise to power is almost exactly like Vecna's.
I can just imagine this after episode 94 (so spoilers- Jester SENDS to the Gentelman: So Dad... I may or may not have helped found a cult when I was a child for a powerful being that now needs my help. The Gentleman facepalms.
Ok so I have a very scuffed theory that has no evidence for it at all (ok well that’s just speculation but nvm). So if I’m not mistaken, gods gain their power from their followers, and the more followers they have the stronger they are. What if, and this is a big what if, when Jester was a child, the Traveler was her imaginary friend, and she believed in him SO MUCH that he actually became real. And since like at least a decade or two passed, that would be enough time to find others who would follow him. Your criticism is appreciated!
Would be awesome. Especially with the revelations about the far realm of 19th of september this theory gained some credibility. Can't say too much for spoilers, but imagination seems to be more powerful then initially thought
Laura takes to this character so well, I mean can you tell? I’m a huge fan... 2 things though. 1.There seems to be some doubts in Jester mind that’s being sowed either by the party or others around her, I find Laura plays with that nuance and uses it to develop Jester’s character, it’s subtle but it offers so much complexity to the overall story. And 2. I can’t get that fan theory about Artagan being the Traveller out of my mind, if it is it would be so awesome!
Completely believe Artagan is the traveler back on the material plane and having fun. Artagan was a trickster with that dark Fey side that makes things a little shady.
Reminds me of warlocks patron he they would whisper things in their ear at random. and only he could hear it and would yell WHAT the hell do you want while the party would sare
Episode 95: {SPOILERS} Traveler/Artagan: You asked me what I want and I think what I want right now, is to continue to build a religious cult... Jester/Genevieve: (groans) Everyone Else: (uncontrollably giggling)
The BITE model is the best means of determining if a group is a cult. Behavior control Information control Thought control Emotion control If a group scores mid to high on these categories, then they're a cult.
@@NKM5896 because they're not really a cult, they're a buncha people doing pranks and parading around dick statues. if that's the standard of culthood, my friends and I absolutely qualify, we've done far cultier shit than that. every smoke circle is cultier shit than the traveler followers. they're just dudes worshipping a concept, isn't that what everyone is?
looking back at this with the new info I am realizing Jester set the whole thing for Traveler con. The Traveler probed Jester and just ran with her ideas, okay different type of volcano, tropical location. even asking her what they should do there while making it seem like he already had it planned.
I honestly don't know if I want the traveler to be a bad guy. Obviously theres something hella shady going on but Jester would be honestly so terribly crushed if he turned out to be evil or something
I mean, he’s a god of Trickery if Jester’s to be believed. Trickery just comes with an inherent shadiness. Doesn’t mean he’s bad. Just look at Loki or Coyote. I look at the Traveler the same way.
The funny part about this is that the origin of the word "cult", prior to it's pejorative modern usage, literally describes all organized ritual practices. It comes from the same root as "cultivation", as in "cultivate your relationship with the object of worship".
"I've been involved in a number of cults, both as a leader and a follower. You have more fun as a follower, but you make more money as a leader." - Jester Lavorre
I Love how they Keep using the Real World Version of 'Cult' and not the Fantasy one. Pretty sure the "Cult of Tiamat" doesnt worship some Random nitwit :p Or any other Cult that would follow Fey, Demons, Fiends, Old Gods. A Small part of Me rly want the Traveler to be this Dark entity in reality. Or... there beeing some1 that is more favored then Her. PS: Also... with how... annoyed? They sometimes get with Jesters pranks... how come they are all soooo excited to go to a place where... dozens? Hundreds? Maybe more? Of these pranksters ate gathering xD
The best way to describe a cult is a congregation of fanatical worshippers, doesn't necessarily mean their deity doesn't exist. Tiamat has a cult, Bahamut has a religion. A lich might have a cult, or a religion, it really depends on their motive. Cults irl tend to have charismatic leaders who use piety to manipulate people, for their own ends or for unreasonable purposes. Cults in DnD tend to worship actual, existing beings of a variety of origins (liches, necromancers, demons, deities, dragons) whereas religions tend to worship more divine figures, but sometimes more abstract notions. One tends towards self destructive motives such as world domination, and the other tends to be more... Charitable, and harmless.
VM was amazing, but M9 was the chaos crazy I loved! Don't yet know about The Bells, only on ep3. I'd LOVE to have had a Scanlan guest appearance in C2 or C3.
I think it's the way she said it which they found funny. I did too, because she said it casually like she was talking about a problem at her office job, instead of talking about a epic heroic fantasy artefact.
I just found it funny because it’s such an important relic that made even the bright queen shed tears and Jester is so casual about it Her talking to the traveller is like her inner thoughts and hearing her see everybody as overdramatic is hilarious to me when she’s so overdramatic herself 😭😭
I think the funny part is that it was used literally. Most people say it when people are angry. However, the arms part stands for armaments, or weapons. And the beacons literally have two nations armed for war over them.
The only difference between a cult and a religion is what happens when you leave. We don't know what would happen if Jester left The Traveler, would a bunch of his other followers hunt her down for the crime of apostasy? If they don't do that, Travelerism isn't a cult
This is very much not true. Apostasy being considered a crime is in no way a cult thing. In fact, even today, there are still organized religions in some parts of the world that view it as a crime punishable by death. And it was definitely a crime for most of christian history. And there were many cults throughout history where apostasy as a concept wasn't even a thing, i.e. Cult of Dyonysus in ancient Greece. In fact, Travelerism is more of a religion than most religions on Earth, considering they worship a figure that is 100% without debate proven to exist, with powers easily considered deific. Only if the Traveler was a person claiming a rightfully higher position and demanding worship baselessly could it actually be a cult based on Earth's standards. Fantasy standards, idk, Tiamat is a legit goddess yet she only ever has a cult (that reaches further and is often more organized and ingrained in society than a lot of D&D's organized religions).
I’d be more worried about the emotional toll of leaving. It’s possible that even if Jester did want to leave, she wouldn’t because she’s spent most of her life very dependent on the Traveler.
... ...! ...(spoilers)... ...if Tharizdun had successfully concealed his true identity as The Angel of Irons... ...is it possible he is The Traveler? Manifesting as a God of Trickery, pulling off the most intricate of cons? Appealing to everyone's weakness...an Empire's nationalism...a Dynasty's survival...a fiend's lust for power...a tiefling's loneliness...to ensure that if even one strategy fails, he has a means to escape imprisonment? That would be unbearably cruel. Highly unlikely, given how sincere The Traveler seems... ...but that would be the point.
I know this is old news and what not, but is the traveler just an imaginary friend she made up as a child but because her belief in him became so strong he actually became a God? Like, isn't that a thing in d&d? As long as you have one believer/follower you're a god? Or am I just spouting nonsense?
Brandon Gonzales kinda yes, if enough people believe in a god it becomes so. Or with enough belief from someone but it would need to be a lot of belief.
If you can read about the Kua-toa, they were driven mad after years of being slaves to mind flayers, their minds shattered beyond repair they adopted a religious fervor, inventing gods to protect them against threats. ( if enough kuo-toa believe in a god it may take form) most of their gods are mad like themselves.
Belief makes thing happen in D&D. In different planed from the material one it works better, like in Sigil, the Lady of Pain forbids all worship, because they could accidently spawn a god. In Limbo, if you have enough willpower, you could carve reality out of pure chaos. And I am sure Arborea mutates with the will of its inhabitants.
Technically it’s differs from world to world but I’m pretty sure that normally gods gain power from the amount of followers and the devotion of there followers. So basically a god with a thousand people who regularly make blood sacrifices is equal to one the has 100000 who go to church once a month It normally goes demigod then lesser god then intermediate gods then greater gods Demigods are basically the power of several level 20 mortals and everything else would take 100s of level 20s and greater gods can’t be defeated
Does anyone else lowkey want one of the followers at TravelerCon to declare he/she is the Traveler's favorite or the Head Priest. Just so Jester gets (most likely adorably) mad and either beats him up or out tricks him?
technically all religions are cults as all religions have these elements, what it a cult...a cult. all religions usually requires leader like (priest and such) and something to warship (God or such higher being).. they have control of information (turly believe in what they say is real)... control in moral and behaviors and something punishment to managed it (hell or something they God or something tell the leaders it okay to do). Lastly requiring something of blind faith in something your not allowed to judge or question. Just some far over edge and strict than others dangerous to harmless..
Yo, when Jester said that it was weird when nobody else could see the traveler, I got this thought in my head. Like what if the traveler wasn't real and was just some sort of schizophrenic hallucination she made up in her room to keep herself from going insane. All of her powers are actually some other God taking pity on her and trying to give her some semblance of help. Not something that'll end up being true, but a weird theory.
I was almost wondering if it was an imaginary friend and Jester was The Traveler. Her powers coming from her belief in a god, but not an actual god. Probably not true, but very interesting to think about.
Well, it is kinda tied to a pretty intense spoiler so in case you don't want to be robbed of a super awesome scene, you should go and watch episode 72 (Clay and Dust)
SPOILERS Fjords southern accent was actually Vandrin, his mentor, who he was emulating so he could pretend to be someone he's not. Fjord has recently rejected ukatoa's power and revealed his true english voice to the mighty nein.
Remember guys, it's not a cult. Now everyone put on your matching robes.
One of us, one of us...
thats so terry pratchet lol
Can someone pass the cool-aid
@@finn9707 Koolaid
@@underilli8867 Flavor-Aid if we're being specific.
Anyone else thought the traveler was going to say “unfortunately we are a cult”
as the traveler fades he realized that it was really a cult and whispers "FUCK" before he dispear
Dude that would be amazing
Jester realizing she might actually be in a cult was magical!
I'm waiting for the moment that Jester finds out she is the high priestess of the traveller
Wait no more, just go watch ep 94
She's more ... Way more...
SPOILER
Traveler seeks her guidance!
👀
She is less high priest and more, pope
I like how Laura chose Command from her spell list - realized it might not help her case - then decided it was totally something Jester would do anyways.
jester, now: I may or may not be in a cult
jester, 10 episodes from now: … I may or may not be the leader of said cult
SPOILER
Even Traveler seeks her guidance!
@@CatCheshire SPOILER
ITS A CULLLLTTTT
DEFINITION: CULT
noun
A religion or sect considered to be unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader.
🤔
Is... is that a Yes?
#notacult
If jester becomes the leader, yeah, they're a cult.
OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH SHIT
No, no, no,...Jester, you're not a cult follower, you're LEADING a cult.
Plot Twist: Jester is actually just a Warlock.
@BookwormPunk Poor Laura lol first Rogue got taken from her by Liam during the first campaign, and Travis took Warlock for this campaign. She should get first pick next time
under a Arch Fey...
I like to go with the idea that the traveler thought he was creating a warlock and was shocked when Jester manifested cleric powers. The Traveler made Jester a Cleric but Jester put the Traveler on the path to being at least a minor deity.
@@angie.castle And they both milticlassed into Paladin. I think in campaign 3 Laura should just be a Paladin
I really like the idea of using Cleric domains as Warlocks though
I mean, for example, lets say your patron is a super technological abomination, well, there's no Warlock subclass for that. Except there is, Forge Domain
Let's say your patron is an old force of nature, an arch druid or magnificent beast though, there's no Warlock subclass for that. Except there is, Nature Domain
And so on, and so forth
Oh god, Travelercon is the Fyre Festival
Well they've already been kicked off one island so that checks out
Shit's going down at Onigashima, bring beer.
If Jester is the planning committee it surely will be.
Lol Travis made that comment mid-stream when jester suggested it be in the volcano
oh, you have no idea
Traveller: "On an unrelated note, would you mind if I choked you to death?"
BlackLion *campaign one flashbacks*
Still like that fan theory.
@@jcoonie2 Liam even says "choking" to Marisha at 6:46 ;D
Hee hee
@@jcoonie2 well, now its not a fan theory anymore
The Cult of the Traveler. One of the precepts is that worshippers deny that they are in a cult.
Grey Shard Literally everyone denies they're in a cult, whether they're actually in a cult or not. Are girl scouts in a cult? No, and yet their answer to "are you in a cult" will be exactly the same as someone in a cult.
Rational person: Are you in a cult?
Girl scout: I'm not in a cult!
scientologist: I'm not in a cult!
heaven's gate acolyte: I'm not in a cult!
Your precept is asinine.
So like Scientology
So fightclub is a cult?
@@ironrose6 I think they were making a joke. -_-
@@AflacMan13 A small group fanatically devoted to a charismatic leader? Yes, Fight Club is a cult of sorts.
I like how absolutely no one ever gave the traveler a second thought, and the second it was suggested that maybe newer gods could be a little dangerous, everything changed. I’m worried about traveler con, some weird cult shit is going to happen there I swear to god
Grace I've been saying the Traveler is a piece of trash cult leader since before he pretended to help Jester escape from the Iron Shepherds. I'm really not sure why anyone thought differently, he's horribly manipulative and his rise to power is almost exactly like Vecna's.
You could say the same thing for vesh in cr1
I mean isn't he part of the dark six?
"Beware the gifts of the Traveler." Essek knows.
@Grace Which of the vast pantheon of gods do you swear that too? Choose carefully!
You're in a cult. Call the Gentleman.
!!!
Is this a my favourite murder reference?
hahaha nice M reference
I can just imagine this after episode 94 (so spoilers-
Jester SENDS to the Gentelman: So Dad... I may or may not have helped found a cult when I was a child for a powerful being that now needs my help.
The Gentleman facepalms.
Jester - "They're not in any danger, right?"
Traveler - "No!"
Jester - "Okay. I don't know why I asked that."
...Ahem.
im so excited for travellercon now
Matt really knows how to build up anticipation
let’s just hope he hasn’t prepared the flavor aid
Ok so I have a very scuffed theory that has no evidence for it at all (ok well that’s just speculation but nvm). So if I’m not mistaken, gods gain their power from their followers, and the more followers they have the stronger they are. What if, and this is a big what if, when Jester was a child, the Traveler was her imaginary friend, and she believed in him SO MUCH that he actually became real. And since like at least a decade or two passed, that would be enough time to find others who would follow him. Your criticism is appreciated!
Would be awesome. Especially with the revelations about the far realm of 19th of september this theory gained some credibility. Can't say too much for spoilers, but imagination seems to be more powerful then initially thought
It would explain why he likes her so much more than his other followers. Per this theory, in a bizarre way, Jester would be like the Traveler's mom.
Unfortunately the fact that the traveler is a known god implies that he existed long before jester was born
spoiler alert: jester basicly admitted to being in love with him. Which is, you know, weird af with this theory😂
He was a kid when she was a kid and grew up with her
"Everyone is bringing something to the Traveller-con potluck, Jester could you bring the Kool-Aid?"
Laura takes to this character so well, I mean can you tell? I’m a huge fan... 2 things though. 1.There seems to be some doubts in Jester mind that’s being sowed either by the party or others around her, I find Laura plays with that nuance and uses it to develop Jester’s character, it’s subtle but it offers so much complexity to the overall story. And 2. I can’t get that fan theory about Artagan being the Traveller out of my mind, if it is it would be so awesome!
Completely believe Artagan is the traveler back on the material plane and having fun. Artagan was a trickster with that dark Fey side that makes things a little shady.
Jester is setting up an artist alley, cosplay show, and location planning. As someone who helps run conventions, this is the start of a con for sure
Jester & the Traveler: *discussing the safety of her friends*
Liam: *war flashback*
Reminds me of warlocks patron he they would whisper things in their ear at random. and only he could hear it and would yell WHAT the hell do you want while the party would sare
She gets so excited about being in a cult for a minute. I LOVE THIS SO MUCH!
"Any 'Trinkets' you want to bring along..."
I love Travis's reactions to Taliesin's smooth understanding and appreciations.
The little “Oh sh*t, are we a cult?” Like it never occurred to her but she wouldn’t necessarily be opposed 😂
Someone make an animatic of this STAT!
Episode 95: {SPOILERS}
Traveler/Artagan: You asked me what I want and I think what I want right now, is to continue to build a religious cult...
Jester/Genevieve: (groans)
Everyone Else: (uncontrollably giggling)
The BITE model is the best means of determining if a group is a cult.
Behavior control
Information control
Thought control
Emotion control
If a group scores mid to high on these categories, then they're a cult.
Huh The Traveler cult actually scores pretty low I’d say.
@@NKM5896 because they're not really a cult, they're a buncha people doing pranks and parading around dick statues. if that's the standard of culthood, my friends and I absolutely qualify, we've done far cultier shit than that. every smoke circle is cultier shit than the traveler followers. they're just dudes worshipping a concept, isn't that what everyone is?
I mean, as cults go... this is hardly the worst one
What if it's really the Jester cult run by the Traveler??
Omfg, I love it
We already have that. We're called Critters. :)
The Jester fan club, the Traveler is the leader, founding member and current president
looking back at this with the new info I am realizing Jester set the whole thing for Traveler con. The Traveler probed Jester and just ran with her ideas, okay different type of volcano, tropical location. even asking her what they should do there while making it seem like he already had it planned.
And when The Traveller turns out to be the big bad we can come to this at 6:23 to see Liam suspecting something doesnt seem quite right
Think of a certain person that strangled him with the same voice in c1
I honestly don't know if I want the traveler to be a bad guy. Obviously theres something hella shady going on but Jester would be honestly so terribly crushed if he turned out to be evil or something
I mean, he’s a god of Trickery if Jester’s to be believed. Trickery just comes with an inherent shadiness. Doesn’t mean he’s bad.
Just look at Loki or Coyote. I look at the Traveler the same way.
@@treycool9565 So is the Traveler going to cause Ragnarok or something?
@@treycool9565 I mean, Loki is just the _worst_ (and kinda evil, at least in the stories we have of him)
If you read the actual Norse myths, all the gods are kinda evil.
Can't wait for TravelerCon, we'll need flyers with "REMEMBER WE'RE NOT A CULT~"
6:22
That is subtly alarming. I sense nefarious purposes to this Traveler-Con.
0:39 Its never a good sign when you say something like this...
“In general, or specifically?” 🤣
I love Jester so much
"Negative happenings" cut to a blonde noblewoman with a dramatic zoom to her hand
I love it near the end... Got the whole "You hang up." "No, you hang up." vibe haha
The funny part about this is that the origin of the word "cult", prior to it's pejorative modern usage, literally describes all organized ritual practices. It comes from the same root as "cultivation", as in "cultivate your relationship with the object of worship".
If they force the worshipers to dance, you might be in a cult.
I love her "oh shit are we a cult?"
"I've been involved in a number of cults, both as a leader and a follower. You have more fun as a follower, but you make more money as a leader." - Jester Lavorre
'why do we want to go somewhere that's been stamped on by somebody else? Why can't we go somewhere and claim something as our own?' FORESHADOWING
The Traveler is Snufkin from Moomin
Sam sneaking in the rest of his cookie at the end there got me because of how it clattered on his teeth.
I love your edits! They're one of my favorites!
I Love how they Keep using the Real World Version of 'Cult' and not the Fantasy one. Pretty sure the "Cult of Tiamat" doesnt worship some Random nitwit :p
Or any other Cult that would follow Fey, Demons, Fiends, Old Gods.
A Small part of Me rly want the Traveler to be this Dark entity in reality. Or... there beeing some1 that is more favored then Her.
PS: Also... with how... annoyed? They sometimes get with Jesters pranks... how come they are all soooo excited to go to a place where... dozens? Hundreds? Maybe more? Of these pranksters ate gathering xD
The fact sam is using his feet as he dances even though no one can see 💀💀💀
"It's not a cult... but I will make everyone matching cloaks."
The best way to describe a cult is a congregation of fanatical worshippers, doesn't necessarily mean their deity doesn't exist. Tiamat has a cult, Bahamut has a religion. A lich might have a cult, or a religion, it really depends on their motive.
Cults irl tend to have charismatic leaders who use piety to manipulate people, for their own ends or for unreasonable purposes. Cults in DnD tend to worship actual, existing beings of a variety of origins (liches, necromancers, demons, deities, dragons) whereas religions tend to worship more divine figures, but sometimes more abstract notions. One tends towards self destructive motives such as world domination, and the other tends to be more... Charitable, and harmless.
A year later, the con happens, and Dairon's words kind of ring true.
If it makes Jester feel any better I played a Warlock Paladin who tried making a cult and barely made 100 following
I just love their relationship. Its so wholesome.
I also kinda hope to make a character that worships him too. Or as close to him as it could be.
VM was amazing, but M9 was the chaos crazy I loved! Don't yet know about The Bells, only on ep3.
I'd LOVE to have had a Scanlan guest appearance in C2 or C3.
2:39 music stops perfectly for that moment..
Someone needs to animate this ASAP
It’s funny that this shows up in my feed today of all days
“I would be careful”
“In general or specifically?”
“Both”
“Oh :)”
I feel like this is gonna be some FMA shit where he tries to use the souls and power of his followers to ascend to actual godhood.
I would be careful
Generally or specifically
..... Yes
I so fucking cannot wait to see animated Jester.
I’m so ready for Jester to become the High Priestess
Jester, "There'll be Punch & Pie~"
Why does this sound like a married couple
"Im never that far"
GAAASP
The way Laura yells No at the start is so fucking funny
I didnt get the up in arms joke if anybody is willing to explain it to me.
I think its because there is an actual war between the Empire and the Dynasty.
Seemed like a regular figure of speech to me
I think it's the way she said it which they found funny. I did too, because she said it casually like she was talking about a problem at her office job, instead of talking about a epic heroic fantasy artefact.
I just found it funny because it’s such an important relic that made even the bright queen shed tears and Jester is so casual about it
Her talking to the traveller is like her inner thoughts and hearing her see everybody as overdramatic is hilarious to me when she’s so overdramatic herself 😭😭
I think the funny part is that it was used literally. Most people say it when people are angry. However, the arms part stands for armaments, or weapons. And the beacons literally have two nations armed for war over them.
Yeah, why would they want to go to a volcano that's already been claimed by somebody else?😂
this is my favourite jester moment
ARTAGAN IS THE TRAVELER OKAY
Spoiler from ep 94:
Yep it is
And I just realized, "do you have a charismatic leader".... yeah Jester is the charismatic leader
Nott’s questions are the actual agreed upon definitions of a cult. They a cult 🤷🏽♀️
The only difference between a cult and a religion is what happens when you leave. We don't know what would happen if Jester left The Traveler, would a bunch of his other followers hunt her down for the crime of apostasy? If they don't do that, Travelerism isn't a cult
Plenty of religions would do that too.
This is very much not true. Apostasy being considered a crime is in no way a cult thing. In fact, even today, there are still organized religions in some parts of the world that view it as a crime punishable by death. And it was definitely a crime for most of christian history. And there were many cults throughout history where apostasy as a concept wasn't even a thing, i.e. Cult of Dyonysus in ancient Greece. In fact, Travelerism is more of a religion than most religions on Earth, considering they worship a figure that is 100% without debate proven to exist, with powers easily considered deific. Only if the Traveler was a person claiming a rightfully higher position and demanding worship baselessly could it actually be a cult based on Earth's standards. Fantasy standards, idk, Tiamat is a legit goddess yet she only ever has a cult (that reaches further and is often more organized and ingrained in society than a lot of D&D's organized religions).
I’d be more worried about the emotional toll of leaving. It’s possible that even if Jester did want to leave, she wouldn’t because she’s spent most of her life very dependent on the Traveler.
By your explanation, Christianity, Judaism, Islam, and Hinduism are cults.
old.freedomofmind.com/Info/BITE/bitemodel.php
The best current way to determine cult-ness of a group.
LOL jesters reaction
no he wouldnt do human sacrifices, strangeling a man to death just for shis and giggles tho, thats a different thing
...
...!
...(spoilers)...
...if Tharizdun had successfully concealed his true identity as The Angel of Irons...
...is it possible he is The Traveler?
Manifesting as a God of Trickery, pulling off the most intricate of cons?
Appealing to everyone's weakness...an Empire's nationalism...a Dynasty's survival...a fiend's lust for power...a tiefling's loneliness...to ensure that if even one strategy fails, he has a means to escape imprisonment?
That would be unbearably cruel.
Highly unlikely, given how sincere The Traveler seems...
...but that would be the point.
I know this is old news and what not, but is the traveler just an imaginary friend she made up as a child but because her belief in him became so strong he actually became a God? Like, isn't that a thing in d&d? As long as you have one believer/follower you're a god? Or am I just spouting nonsense?
Brandon Gonzales kinda yes, if enough people believe in a god it becomes so. Or with enough belief from someone but it would need to be a lot of belief.
If you can read about the Kua-toa, they were driven mad after years of being slaves to mind flayers, their minds shattered beyond repair they adopted a religious fervor, inventing gods to protect them against threats. ( if enough kuo-toa believe in a god it may take form) most of their gods are mad like themselves.
Belief makes thing happen in D&D. In different planed from the material one it works better, like in Sigil, the Lady of Pain forbids all worship, because they could accidently spawn a god.
In Limbo, if you have enough willpower, you could carve reality out of pure chaos. And I am sure Arborea mutates with the will of its inhabitants.
Technically it’s differs from world to world but I’m pretty sure that normally gods gain power from the amount of followers and the devotion of there followers.
So basically a god with a thousand people who regularly make blood sacrifices is equal to one the has 100000 who go to church once a month
It normally goes demigod then lesser god then intermediate gods then greater gods
Demigods are basically the power of several level 20 mortals and everything else would take 100s of level 20s and greater gods can’t be defeated
Does anyone else lowkey want one of the followers at TravelerCon to declare he/she is the Traveler's favorite or the Head Priest. Just so Jester gets (most likely adorably) mad and either beats him up or out tricks him?
It is a cult, it's just a cult that Jester started.
oh shit are we a cult
I like new things
New things are nice
I’ve been thinking about this for awhile, what if the Traveller is the bbeg?
Nobodys geting sacrificed lol
It’s not a cult it’s a cultivated community
Why does The Traveler remind me of the Master of Masters from Kingdom Hearts?
Prankster god... Into some green colors... Maybe like his gf in his mortal life lmfao
technically all religions are cults as all religions have these elements, what it a cult...a cult. all religions usually requires leader like (priest and such) and something to warship (God or such higher being).. they have control of information (turly believe in what they say is real)... control in moral and behaviors and something punishment to managed it (hell or something they God or something tell the leaders it okay to do). Lastly requiring something of blind faith in something your not allowed to judge or question. Just some far over edge and strict than others dangerous to harmless..
aslkjdf I mean is there any real difference between a religion and a cult.
Yo, when Jester said that it was weird when nobody else could see the traveler, I got this thought in my head. Like what if the traveler wasn't real and was just some sort of schizophrenic hallucination she made up in her room to keep herself from going insane. All of her powers are actually some other God taking pity on her and trying to give her some semblance of help. Not something that'll end up being true, but a weird theory.
Or maybe her powers are natural and she thought up the traveler as an explanation rather than face that fact.
I was almost wondering if it was an imaginary friend and Jester was The Traveler. Her powers coming from her belief in a god, but not an actual god.
Probably not true, but very interesting to think about.
Spoilers
"Naah, we're not a cult!"
*episode 78, the Traveller has a cult*
What is the traveler the god of
Trickery
He is a chaotic entity
6:28 that's some BS right there
The fact that she was eatting made this so perfect. Just like jester to have a doughnut in her mouth.
Cults are just religions that are not popularly accepted.
Woop! 1st comment and 6th person to watch it!
What happened to Fjord's accent?
Well, it is kinda tied to a pretty intense spoiler so in case you don't want to be robbed of a super awesome scene, you should go and watch episode 72 (Clay and Dust)
SPOILERS
Fjords southern accent was actually Vandrin, his mentor, who he was emulating so he could pretend to be someone he's not. Fjord has recently rejected ukatoa's power and revealed his true english voice to the mighty nein.
it was fake i think. but i also don't really watch so take it with a grain of salt.
Oh boy are you in for a roller coaster of emotions
Boy are you late
I mean, there is no defining thing that differentiates a religion to a cult