still before the update i was still demolishing ghost users on ranked, it didn't even matter that they had an advantage. hmmmm maybe i should start a TH-cam channel
Base on my experience with counter style is that this style actually goes really well when playing against aggressive player but when it comes to passive player you’re gonna have a hard time cause they know how to throw their punches more carefully and you’re more likely going to get countered the most and perfect dodged by an experienced player
I agree, based on what I observed in the video, he's not utilizing the counter buffs even at the last update, counter should be used by countering the opponent and dodging at the right time, sure you could play aggressive and passive at the same time since counter can melt the opponent little by little if the counter lands on the right time(this is based on my experience so feel free to correct me😊)
The best way for play counter style is: predict and timing You predict when he gonna punch you, take the timing of when the opponent stop blocking your punchs and always try to land a m2 or m1 when the opponent is dashing
My tips is to play in specific way that is super obvious to learn in the opponent eye i usualy do m1 + m2 repeatedly to create patern that way when im sure my opponent catch on my playstyle i can use my own playstyle to counter my opponent This work wonderfully time to time when i hit 2 counter m2 on the opponent they ragequit installing fear is wonderfull tech 😂
Counter is one of my top styles. It is best to be passive-aggressive when using it since M1S have no damage and opponents can see your M2 coming from a mile away. I usually try to be unpredictable. Works well.
I'm only like 20k elo and you fight in a waaay higher skill division than mine so i don't think this will help alot but, you shouldn't be trading interactions back and forth with counter as the damage you cash out isn't worth it. It's better to go back to neutral and reset than go blow for blow. Also if those 2 matches were the only matches you played with counter then i think you got a bit screwed over as slugger and ghost are one of the worst matchups for counter and you shouldn't let this experience stop you from maybe trying out counter again some time in the future when it's less low tier
One of the worst styles no matter what you do. Relying on prediction based counters in a game that rewards extremely passive play at a higher « skill » level is absolutely horrendous
Yeah that's true counter at high rank just not viable cause ur not getting counters and even if you do they will just back away and heal all the dmg u did with the counter@@Virgile77777
Hey envixist im sorry i cant really watch ur vids im in the hospital and im really sick i wish for u the best in life edit:im inaam mikhael* this is a new acc
i dont agree with counter being one of the worst styles in the game, you actually ussed it wrong, is not an agressive style, you need to read you opponent as much as you can to actually deal good counter dmg, because the whole style is focused on counters, you playedvery agressive (and no offense, but for your rank you fighted as a bronze or silver ranked), also, its not as predictable because the m2 is a bit sower so it still can hook the opponents in your range, the m2 counterdeals an insane amount of dmg (Almost the same as a Slugger m2), and its the only counter style with almost no big downsides (Taking more dmg when getting countered, dont being able to back dash, getting stunnd after the jab, yk, all of those "top tier" styles wich can be countered with the correct timming andthey have big downsides), theonly downside for counter is his low dmg in all the normal hits, going for the hits is not recommended for counter style, i recommend you to try to be more passive with it and try to learn how your opponent usually fights, so you can counter a lot more and deal insane dmg in just 4 hits and 1 heavy Edit: I forgot, use basic style or smash, those two are very cool and good (Basic is pretty balanced like omg, it destroys)
@@angelodugarte9649 you can stop them with a good timming and a m2, they reduced the dash i-frames if you didnt know (its harder to use dash spamming now)
@@Fumetsu_F.A also the problem with dash spam is that if you play very passive you will have the advantage in the fight(if you know who to time it well)
This video was recorded before the crate update, so counter doesnt have m1 mix ups like it does now.
still before the update i was still demolishing ghost users on ranked, it didn't even matter that they had an advantage. hmmmm maybe i should start a TH-cam channel
Fun fact: M2 with counter on a hands low will deal as much damage as an ultimate.
What, really
yeah one time i got Hit hy hand low counter and his like my soul just leave me after i look at my heal
And hawk too
Incorrect, It deals a very high damage but not equal to an ultimate.
Still decent damage though
Base on my experience with counter style is that this style actually goes really well when playing against aggressive player but when it comes to passive player you’re gonna have a hard time cause they know how to throw their punches more carefully and you’re more likely going to get countered the most and perfect dodged by an experienced player
I agree, based on what I observed in the video, he's not utilizing the counter buffs even at the last update, counter should be used by countering the opponent and dodging at the right time, sure you could play aggressive and passive at the same time since counter can melt the opponent little by little if the counter lands on the right time(this is based on my experience so feel free to correct me😊)
@@ernestjayromero654”counter should be used by countering the opponent” 😱 you dont say?
@@spiridonmatei5727most people don’t counter but rather use it’s somewhat long range or just aggressively punching
1:18 ok, dont get me wrong, i respect ppl who know how to dodge. But when someone does this type of strategy is absolutely ridiculous
Agreed, people playing extremely passive in this kind of games are those who ruins all the game experience imo
Counter is a very opposing style so the guy has to know how to play with it
The best way for play counter style is: predict and timing
You predict when he gonna punch you, take the timing of when the opponent stop blocking your punchs and always try to land a m2 or m1 when the opponent is dashing
My tips is to play in specific way that is super obvious to learn in the opponent eye i usualy do m1 + m2 repeatedly to create patern that way when im sure my
opponent catch on my playstyle i can use my own playstyle to counter my opponent
This work wonderfully time to time when i hit 2 counter m2 on the opponent they ragequit
installing fear is wonderfull tech 😂
Precision beats power, timing beats speed
Counter is one of my top styles. It is best to be passive-aggressive when using it since M1S have no damage and opponents can see your M2 coming from a mile away. I usually try to be unpredictable. Works well.
I'm only like 20k elo and you fight in a waaay higher skill division than mine so i don't think this will help alot but, you shouldn't be trading interactions back and forth with counter as the damage you cash out isn't worth it. It's better to go back to neutral and reset than go blow for blow. Also if those 2 matches were the only matches you played with counter then i think you got a bit screwed over as slugger and ghost are one of the worst matchups for counter and you shouldn't let this experience stop you from maybe trying out counter again some time in the future when it's less low tier
Slugger: *spam dashing*
Bullet: So this is why I'm here >:)
As a Counter main and fighting u talking about my style im hurt brother it requires alot of skill to use counter and alot of patience and timing
The first player was dodging randomly, waiting for you to hit first, and trying to glitch the block bar…an extremely odd ball
How to dodge the m2 slugger? That shit has a very strange rhythm
One tip is how to use the counter's m2 2 times in a row, the second time and counter
One of the most OP styles if you know how to use
Me having skill issue in ranked : 💀
No dawg to counter you need to predict m1 or m2 and if you're not fighting against a npc you're just getting dodged
One of the worst styles no matter what you do. Relying on prediction based counters in a game that rewards extremely passive play at a higher « skill » level is absolutely horrendous
Yeah that's true counter at high rank just not viable cause ur not getting counters and even if you do they will just back away and heal all the dmg u did with the counter@@Virgile77777
Hey envixist im sorry i cant really watch ur vids im in the hospital and im really sick i wish for u the best in life edit:im inaam mikhael* this is a new acc
Get better soon bro.
Hello!! I hope ya feel good i will support yuo and might find new subscribers!
This was all our first mains if we were broke as fuck and couldn't get hitman or slugger
I love the edition bro :]
ggs man
Try out basic in ranked⭐⭐
Corkscrew next pls!!
"im gonna rough countering him"... counters 3 times in a battle and dies lmao
M1 counters on the counter style is not that strong but the M2 is the best thing counter has for counter damage.
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i dont agree with counter being one of the worst styles in the game, you actually ussed it wrong, is not an agressive style, you need to read you opponent as much as you can to actually deal good counter dmg, because the whole style is focused on counters, you playedvery agressive (and no offense, but for your rank you fighted as a bronze or silver ranked), also, its not as predictable because the m2 is a bit sower so it still can hook the opponents in your range, the m2 counterdeals an insane amount of dmg (Almost the same as a Slugger m2), and its the only counter style with almost no big downsides (Taking more dmg when getting countered, dont being able to back dash, getting stunnd after the jab, yk, all of those "top tier" styles wich can be countered with the correct timming andthey have big downsides), theonly downside for counter is his low dmg in all the normal hits, going for the hits is not recommended for counter style, i recommend you to try to be more passive with it and try to learn how your opponent usually fights, so you can counter a lot more and deal insane dmg in just 4 hits and 1 heavy
Edit: I forgot, use basic style or smash, those two are very cool and good (Basic is pretty balanced like omg, it destroys)
What if they dash every time you get close?
@@angelodugarte9649 you can stop them with a good timming and a m2, they reduced the dash i-frames if you didnt know (its harder to use dash spamming now)
@@Fumetsu_F.A what if dash back everytime and use ghost?
@@Fumetsu_F.A also the problem with dash spam is that if you play very passive you will have the advantage in the fight(if you know who to time it well)
@@angelodugarte9649 ghost is very predictable ngl, and just blocking leads to punishing the jab, the m2 can be perfect dodged easily
Ok welp after watching this gameplay i have decided that you prob shouldnt be rating counter cuz it requires more skill than what you have.
Counter mains trying to justify their trash style incoming.
"b-b-but predictions!!!1!! SkIlL!!!!1! pATiENce!!!"
Use corkscrew in ranked
what kinda voice is that
also dante has been going around with “ghost is very op” so idk what that was about
I’ve played this Dante guy in public before
Bro do smash its Hella good against ghost and hawk
the anti martinez technique lol
Shows exactly how un fun ranked is
Slugger used was legit an undisputed champion why is he still playing ranked
Lmao bro outed Dante
Counter needs a Buff
He already got. Damage buff from m1 and new animations on m2 Also he uses 2 arms now
Nice look op
How did you comment so fast 💀
bro nows the secret@@Envixist
Dante always has "good suggestions" (he suck ikr)
It Just Me or they buff slugger?
They nerfed it
why is bro so terrible with counter
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