I'm not blaming God, God really hasn't done anything to either create it or rectify it, the truth is that if people had the ability to resolve the problem on the largest scale...we surely would, but we are limited by a system that won't allow us this freedom, its time we try something new, and many many people agree.
@icebearsful interesting response, but i think in the bible it says something about the day of judgment when you will stand in front of god and be judged and just because one believes in god doesn't assure a place in heaven, for even the demons do not deny there is a god. i did not mean the video was scary, i meant the story in the bible. a bright beautiful soul you must be yourself-- you have done nothing to warrant condemnation and thus you have done nothing wrong that needs to be forgiven:)
@alwaysthere120 Every decision you make is based on the responses you've learned from the environment, so to my understanding there is no such thing as "free will" or "free choice". You are a perfect reflection of the environment you live in. An eskimo cannot even dream about living in a palm tree beach if he'd never seen something like that. I think I understand you and I think your intentions are good for the well-being of people:)
@alwaysthere120 What do you mean by that? Do you mean that a person killing another person is not "evil", but the actual killing process as a deed is "evil", no matter who does it? By "evil" I guess you mean detrimental behavior for another human's health in this case? So what is the point in this? You mean that no person is "evil", but some deeds are "evil". Who defines what deed is "evil"? If it is "god" you say, why would all-loving "god" even create such deeds defined as "evil"?
Hi, I'm from Germany, so my english isn't perfect. A child can't decide, if it is true or false what the father tells her. There is a great gap between christian church and believing in the bible stories. For Example: How could the father take responsibility for his words, when the Catholic church still doesn't take responsibility for inquisition or abuse of children?! What about corruption inside the churches? Why don't they show us a clergyman in this video? Because he has enough to eat.
@MangekyouRook [cont.] encountering an Atheist; if I am bitter to anyone, it is the individuals in my society that raised me in the way they did; if I am angry however, it is at those who think anything pure can create something as horrible as this; I knew people who lived lives filled entirely with pain and suffering and died when they had themselves done nothing wrong; I knew a beautiful child once who died of leukaemia at the age of six, diagnosed of three; how can you tell me that [cont.]
@alwaysthere120 I am just very skeptic about God or anything spiritual, unless you give me exact definitions what you mean by God as a supreme being or spirituality. If you tell me 1 + 1 = 2 I can understand that, but if you tell me there's a guy sitting on clouds watching at as 24/7, it raises too many questions and gives too many unreasonable answers.
@tubeanatoli If a person is raised in an environment where every person he meets acts selfishly, don't you think he is going to learn that selfish behaviour? You learn everything from the environment, the patterns of behaviour, language, facial expressions, everything. If you would be able to study human behaviour outside the effects of the environment (which is almost impossible) and still see greedy behaviour, then I would accept the idea that it comes from the "inside".
@alwaysthere120 I do not help the way you do as you described... it is a very respectful quality in a human being today:) See the Zeitgeist or Jacque Fresco from youtube ;) might give you something ;)
@reallyfullofmyself Love is a veeery abstract term. What do you mean by love? I do not believe in the general idea of love. I believe in kind and co-operational behavior with human beings. I believe that if we help and take care of each other we would do much better as a species. What is true love? How do you define love? If a girl or guy dumps you because of someone else, you'd help him/her pack her stuff to go and have fun with that other person, if you REALLY loved him/her? correct?
Made me cry great.But missed the true meaning behind christmas. for more then 5000 to 15000 years a story of 3 kings following a star brings on the new sun(son) this is true. Orion's belt is named after 3 kings and they follow the brightest star to the east that when all 4 line up with the sun. a new son is born. as in the days will get longer. and you can see this ever year fron the northern hemisphere. dont be leave me have a look her yourself come the 21 of decmeber the sun will rise and fall in those 3 days. as in the sun will rise higher north then rise south. so that being said stop being sold into paying for something when really most of us just dont want to be alone in the dark.
@novidien I did: and I opened my eyes from a loving, god-filled world of happiness to a world where there was pain and suffering everywhere I turned; I opened my eyes from a world where I was important to a world where I was nothing, and where I had simply been arrogant and selfish, let alone ignorat; but when I "opened my eyes", I opened my eyes to the real world, a world that no half-pure god would create, and a world I would praise nothing for creating; a world without perfection, or any god
@tubeanatoli Well I thought God created everything, he decided what is going to happen, what you are going to think about, what you're going to feel, etc. What do you mean by God if he/it wouldn't be able to do this? Are you saying that selfisness, greed and others are not created by the environment, but they just come somehow from nowhere? What makes person greedy? What makes person to become selfish? The environment makes much more sense, than the idea that these behaviors would just appear
@alwaysthere120 I was told that God created everything there is. Every bug, every plant, every galaxy. So according to this logic God created evil deeds and he also created the so called "free will". What do you mean by "free will"? Do you mean making decisions without being influenced by anything? I cannot understand that at all. Since the moment you're in the uterus you're being influenced by the environment.
@tubeanatoli You can't take out anything from a human being that hasn't been put into it first. There are factors in the environment that generate aberrant behavior in human beings. Selfishness, greed, hatred, etc. are symptoms from the affects we get from our environment. There are no selfish or greedy or "bad" people. Only people that live in different environments and have learned to behave in different patterns based on the feedback they have got from their culture and sub-cultures.
@alwaysthere120 I also don't want to hurt or downsize any group of people, I just think that religion as a whole has been used as a way to control the behavior of people. The intentions of the bible are good, but what is DONE in reality is really different. This is why I don't have really any respect for any religion. I support the idea that in order to make the world a better place you must EDUCATE yourself and understand why and how the world works.
@reallyfullofmyself The idea of love is a cute idea, but it is nothing mythical or magical. It's simply fluids going around in your head to make sure you keep on reproducing to keep the species alive. But I can assure you, if you'd live on an island with 100 people who all loved each other very much, when they would run out of resources, you'd get a lot of trouble going along with them.
@alwaysthere120 What do you mean by love, peace and light? Love, peace and light in a corrupted monetary-banking free market society? Not gonna happen...for a while =) sry, no matter how spiritual you try to be, if people run out the necessities of life, which is happening gradually in our world, people will eat each other. But I guess I understand what you mean:) Nice thoughts, but that's all it is, you need to get real and DO something about it and not keep looking up;) good luck :)
@tubeanatoli As I have understood God created everything a long time ago right? He planned the moves and thoughts of every single being in the universe (God's divine plan). That's what I've understood from the Bible. He is all powerful, all knowing and all loving God. The concepts of God that I've been thought indicate that there is nothing God couldn't do or know. The outer environment is exactly to blame. There is no inner environment without outer environment.
@MangekyouRook constructive to our world, and actually hinders from it progressing; and thus my plea to you is this: if you truely believe in a god, dedicate your life to doing as your "messiah" did and try to cure the world, see how much pain it is in, so how unfair these peoples lives are, and ask them if they believe in a god; you will be very surprised (I should imagine) how few people believe in a god there; although it doesn't surprise me, what has your god ever done for them?
this is indoctrination of a story that sounds great.. and makes you feel great.. but if you don't believe the story, you'll suffer eternally. thats the kind of god that man made: someone who loves you unconditionally, but if you dont believe in him you go to hell. btw, the story is also a very effective scare tactic.
@tubeanatoli What do you mean by "evil" and what do you mean by "wrong"? I agree with warrxd there are no such things. Wrong here could be right at somewhere else. If a white guy would be born in an environment where black people would be beated all the time and he would inherit this black-hating behavior, would you call him evil? If he'd never seen anything else. Or would you call him a person with an unsane value-system?
@MangekyouRook such a thing as your god can live, and such a thing as that can happen? The simple answer is, it can't; if your god knew all things (as is stated in your scripture) and had the power to do all things (as is stated in your scripture) and was just (as is stated in your scripture), then this would have never been allowed to happen - but it did, and that is life; life is cruel, cold, and life doesn't care; life doesn't care about Africa, drought, famine, disease, and [cont.]
@icebearsful firstly, let us consider this an open discussion then, for I know full well your perspective, and wish to enlighten you of mine, so that you may at least be the wiser to how I see things; now, first of all I am not "bitter" as you so put it, but rather blunt; you assume (or at least I inferr that you assume) that because what I say is (to most) distasteful (as it is to me) that I am bitter; no offense intended, but this is an (incorrect) assumption many theists make when [cont.]
@alwaysthere120 and then DO something about it if you want a better world. See the Venus Project by Jacque Fresco for more info;) They DO what religion TALKS about :)
@MangekyouRook any rational person that seeks something they can't see will look for evidence of it, of which for your god there is none that cannot be explained by the laws of science (which explain themselves, if you bother to look into the deepest, core mechanics of our dimensions). However, I agree that we should stop "spreading the hate", but this is futile if we don't stop it from growing; what I am trying to do here is open your eyes to the fact that your religion does nothing [cont.]
We need more like this peace to the world thank you friend merry christmas from New Zealand bless you
I'm not blaming God, God really hasn't done anything to either create it or rectify it, the truth is that if people had the ability to resolve the problem on the largest scale...we surely would, but we are limited by a system that won't allow us this freedom, its time we try something new, and many many people agree.
wow very well done. Merry christmas.
Beautiful message, God is love
Great video - I really loved your angles and sensitivity! A brief moment of peace and loving in a world that is so bitter and angry!
Grtuluje zrobienia pieknego klipa , super podoba mi sie .
Zycze Ci dalszyczh pomyslow i Sukcesow .
Pozdrawiam - Roman
I could be wrong but i think hes trying to tell us his daughter is the unexpected gift.
Great job.
Thx. & Merry Christmas.
Irene (Germany)
very beautiful..
Re-edited?
Very beautiful, Merry Christmas,
BEAUTIFUL VIDEO.
THIS IS HOW WE SUPPOSE TO CELEBRATE XMAS
Beautiful! Well done and Merry Christmas :)
GREAT VIDEO & thanks my friends for this especially version;-)))
Frohe Weihnachten - Merry Christmas!!!
Bino
Great video!
I REALLY LOVE THIS VIDEO
Nice video
@icebearsful interesting response, but i think in the bible it says something about the day of judgment when you will stand in front of god and be judged and just because one believes in god doesn't assure a place in heaven, for even the demons do not deny there is a god. i did not mean the video was scary, i meant the story in the bible. a bright beautiful soul you must be yourself-- you have done nothing to warrant condemnation and thus you have done nothing wrong that needs to be forgiven:)
Eh... I don't need god. But Great video. I like the camera work.
Nice film, was expecting a vodafone logo at the end.
@HybridMoments100 wat is it plz reply
God rules!
@alwaysthere120 Every decision you make is based on the responses you've learned from the environment, so to my understanding there is no such thing as "free will" or "free choice". You are a perfect reflection of the environment you live in. An eskimo cannot even dream about living in a palm tree beach if he'd never seen something like that. I think I understand you and I think your intentions are good for the well-being of people:)
@alwaysthere120 What do you mean by that? Do you mean that a person killing another person is not "evil", but the actual killing process as a deed is "evil", no matter who does it? By "evil" I guess you mean detrimental behavior for another human's health in this case? So what is the point in this? You mean that no person is "evil", but some deeds are "evil". Who defines what deed is "evil"? If it is "god" you say, why would all-loving "god" even create such deeds defined as "evil"?
What Irony...this video is not in HD!!! Seriously, WTF?
God won't do for you what you won't do for yourself :P
@JustHere1444 WHAT DOES IT DOOO?
Hi, I'm from Germany, so my english isn't perfect.
A child can't decide, if it is true or false what the father tells her. There is a great gap between christian church and believing in the bible stories. For Example: How could the father take responsibility for his words, when the Catholic church still doesn't take responsibility for inquisition or abuse of children?! What about corruption inside the churches?
Why don't they show us a clergyman in this video? Because he has enough to eat.
@MangekyouRook [cont.] encountering an Atheist; if I am bitter to anyone, it is the individuals in my society that raised me in the way they did; if I am angry however, it is at those who think anything pure can create something as horrible as this; I knew people who lived lives filled entirely with pain and suffering and died when they had themselves done nothing wrong; I knew a beautiful child once who died of leukaemia at the age of six, diagnosed of three; how can you tell me that [cont.]
@alwaysthere120 I am just very skeptic about God or anything spiritual, unless you give me exact definitions what you mean by God as a supreme being or spirituality. If you tell me 1 + 1 = 2 I can understand that, but if you tell me there's a guy sitting on clouds watching at as 24/7, it raises too many questions and gives too many unreasonable answers.
@tubeanatoli If a person is raised in an environment where every person he meets acts selfishly, don't you think he is going to learn that selfish behaviour? You learn everything from the environment, the patterns of behaviour, language, facial expressions, everything. If you would be able to study human behaviour outside the effects of the environment (which is almost impossible) and still see greedy behaviour, then I would accept the idea that it comes from the "inside".
@alwaysthere120 I do not help the way you do as you described... it is a very respectful quality in a human being today:) See the Zeitgeist or Jacque Fresco from youtube ;) might give you something ;)
@reallyfullofmyself Love is a veeery abstract term. What do you mean by love? I do not believe in the general idea of love. I believe in kind and co-operational behavior with human beings. I believe that if we help and take care of each other we would do much better as a species. What is true love? How do you define love? If a girl or guy dumps you because of someone else, you'd help him/her pack her stuff to go and have fun with that other person, if you REALLY loved him/her? correct?
Made me cry great.But missed the true meaning behind christmas. for more then 5000 to 15000 years a story of 3 kings following a star brings on the new sun(son) this is true. Orion's belt is named after 3 kings and they follow the brightest star to the east that when all 4 line up with the sun. a new son is born. as in the days will get longer. and you can see this ever year fron the northern hemisphere. dont be leave me have a look her yourself come the 21 of decmeber the sun will rise and fall in those 3 days. as in the sun will rise higher north then rise south. so that being said stop being sold into paying for something when really most of us just dont want to be alone in the dark.
@novidien I did: and I opened my eyes from a loving, god-filled world of happiness to a world where there was pain and suffering everywhere I turned; I opened my eyes from a world where I was important to a world where I was nothing, and where I had simply been arrogant and selfish, let alone ignorat; but when I "opened my eyes", I opened my eyes to the real world, a world that no half-pure god would create, and a world I would praise nothing for creating; a world without perfection, or any god
@tubeanatoli Well I thought God created everything, he decided what is going to happen, what you are going to think about, what you're going to feel, etc. What do you mean by God if he/it wouldn't be able to do this? Are you saying that selfisness, greed and others are not created by the environment, but they just come somehow from nowhere? What makes person greedy? What makes person to become selfish? The environment makes much more sense, than the idea that these behaviors would just appear
@alwaysthere120 I was told that God created everything there is. Every bug, every plant, every galaxy. So according to this logic God created evil deeds and he also created the so called "free will". What do you mean by "free will"? Do you mean making decisions without being influenced by anything? I cannot understand that at all. Since the moment you're in the uterus you're being influenced by the environment.
@tubeanatoli You can't take out anything from a human being that hasn't been put into it first. There are factors in the environment that generate aberrant behavior in human beings. Selfishness, greed, hatred, etc. are symptoms from the affects we get from our environment. There are no selfish or greedy or "bad" people. Only people that live in different environments and have learned to behave in different patterns based on the feedback they have got from their culture and sub-cultures.
@alwaysthere120 I also don't want to hurt or downsize any group of people, I just think that religion as a whole has been used as a way to control the behavior of people. The intentions of the bible are good, but what is DONE in reality is really different. This is why I don't have really any respect for any religion. I support the idea that in order to make the world a better place you must EDUCATE yourself and understand why and how the world works.
@reallyfullofmyself The idea of love is a cute idea, but it is nothing mythical or magical. It's simply fluids going around in your head to make sure you keep on reproducing to keep the species alive. But I can assure you, if you'd live on an island with 100 people who all loved each other very much, when they would run out of resources, you'd get a lot of trouble going along with them.
@alwaysthere120 What do you mean by love, peace and light? Love, peace and light in a corrupted monetary-banking free market society? Not gonna happen...for a while =) sry, no matter how spiritual you try to be, if people run out the necessities of life, which is happening gradually in our world, people will eat each other. But I guess I understand what you mean:) Nice thoughts, but that's all it is, you need to get real and DO something about it and not keep looking up;) good luck :)
@tubeanatoli As I have understood God created everything a long time ago right? He planned the moves and thoughts of every single being in the universe (God's divine plan). That's what I've understood from the Bible. He is all powerful, all knowing and all loving God. The concepts of God that I've been thought indicate that there is nothing God couldn't do or know. The outer environment is exactly to blame. There is no inner environment without outer environment.
@MangekyouRook constructive to our world, and actually hinders from it progressing; and thus my plea to you is this: if you truely believe in a god, dedicate your life to doing as your "messiah" did and try to cure the world, see how much pain it is in, so how unfair these peoples lives are, and ask them if they believe in a god; you will be very surprised (I should imagine) how few people believe in a god there; although it doesn't surprise me, what has your god ever done for them?
@novidien the root of it all is money. Money is what creates the greed, the corruption, the cynical decitions...
this is indoctrination of a story that sounds great.. and makes you feel great.. but if you don't believe the story, you'll suffer eternally. thats the kind of god that man made: someone who loves you unconditionally, but if you dont believe in him you go to hell. btw, the story is also a very effective scare tactic.
@tubeanatoli What do you mean by "evil" and what do you mean by "wrong"? I agree with warrxd there are no such things. Wrong here could be right at somewhere else. If a white guy would be born in an environment where black people would be beated all the time and he would inherit this black-hating behavior, would you call him evil? If he'd never seen anything else. Or would you call him a person with an unsane value-system?
@MangekyouRook such a thing as your god can live, and such a thing as that can happen? The simple answer is, it can't; if your god knew all things (as is stated in your scripture) and had the power to do all things (as is stated in your scripture) and was just (as is stated in your scripture), then this would have never been allowed to happen - but it did, and that is life; life is cruel, cold, and life doesn't care; life doesn't care about Africa, drought, famine, disease, and [cont.]
@icebearsful firstly, let us consider this an open discussion then, for I know full well your perspective, and wish to enlighten you of mine, so that you may at least be the wiser to how I see things; now, first of all I am not "bitter" as you so put it, but rather blunt; you assume (or at least I inferr that you assume) that because what I say is (to most) distasteful (as it is to me) that I am bitter; no offense intended, but this is an (incorrect) assumption many theists make when [cont.]
@alwaysthere120 and then DO something about it if you want a better world. See the Venus Project by Jacque Fresco for more info;) They DO what religion TALKS about :)
the dad believes he's telling the truth.
too bad it's all fiction
type won in front of youtube.com
@Brettyification
wich could EASILY be avoided if money didn't have the power over men's hearts as they do. Money talk louder than human needs.
@MangekyouRook any rational person that seeks something they can't see will look for evidence of it, of which for your god there is none that cannot be explained by the laws of science (which explain themselves, if you bother to look into the deepest, core mechanics of our dimensions).
However, I agree that we should stop "spreading the hate", but this is futile if we don't stop it from growing; what I am trying to do here is open your eyes to the fact that your religion does nothing [cont.]
This kind of videos scares me, sorry.
"Original Sin" is nothing but bullshit.