50 million plus bonus cash is massive. I like Koopmeiners but I really hope he's worth the price. I am expecting Koopmeiners as our Nedved for that price. Happy if we could get Sancho on a loan, with an option to buy at 30 million, although, he is a bit of a troublemaker and was already a troublemaker at Dortmund.
I love the idea of Koop in our midfield but who does motta start if we let rabiot walk? Locatelli,Koop, Luis? Backed by Thuram, Miretti, Fagioli/Rovella?
If we land the Sancho move I think we won’t miss Fede. Sancho has just as high ceiling, younger and doesn’t have a injury problem. I really hope Swarit is going to be okey when Chiesa officially leaves.
I think Adeyemi would be a better option than Sancho cause I keep hearing everywhere that Sancho is a trouble maker and we really don’t need to be involved with players like that
Can we afford to overpay for Koop? I don't understand how we could possibly get Sancho if we sign Koop. And if we don't get Sancho and sell Chiesa for Koop, who do we play up front? With so many moving parts I really hesitate on losing Chiesa for the sole purpose of not losing money later, unless it's more money or he's part of a deal
It’s a domino effect right now, each and every move affects the next. It’ll be interesting to see how it pans out but for me, I do agree with Giuntoli that Koop is our top target.
I still don’t understand how we aren’t going all in for Ricky but willing to give Atalanta 60mil for Koop. If we loose Chiesa we have no Italians, disappointing
I think right now it’s about building the best squad available with everything going on and we still have Italians in the squad. Di Gregorio Cambiaso Gatti Fagioli Locatelli And more but the Italian connection also needs a strong talent pool, which isn’t really there at the moment.
Chiesa will leave. English clubs are also interested but Roma is the club with the most interest right now. Sancho 6 months in Dortmund has been more than solid.
I wouldn’t expect anyone to come in and be like a generational player but… I’m very confident Koopmeiners helps more than any of our mids who were on our roster last season. Especially offensively.
How is it possible for the Juventus men team to help pay for Alisha Lehmann for the womens team? Isn't there some sort of ffp in place for the womens side?
Sancho is not it. Mediocre stats from last season, behaviour/discipline issues, large wages, not Italian. There is a lot that I don't like about this idea, especially at the expense of Chiesa.
I don’t look at it as at the expense of Chiesa, I’m starting to feel like Chiesa is gone and it’s alternative time. I personally think Sancho is the best of the names we’ve heard tbh… nobody has stood out to me for names at forward.
Koopmeiners for me yes. The player wants it and to be here but £60M straight up is way too much. It will enable clubs like Atalanta and Bologna to always strong arm us in the future and that will become the new normal on steroids. Chiesa's time at the top will be no more if he goes to Roma. At 27 time flies. Roma MEH, no sight of a credible title push let alone CL slots even 5th. No Prem team will come forward for a 30+ player and Real have better players in that role for years to come. Sancho MEH. Like Rashford and all English players, they're hyped up to the point of embarrassing levels of copium. Good for the women's team but I have no hard feeling about it. Forced to watch City's women's play Chelsea last year and I fell asleep after 5 mins as it's too slow and boring.
I actually think that once Giuntoli establishes his base, he won’t be getting strong armed, I just believe Koopmeiners is a critical target for him to hit right now. Once the foundation is laid, I don’t believe Giuntoli will have an issue taking his business elsewhere. Of course like everything, time will tell.
Who though? That is equal to a top 3 mid in Serie A? The only other names around that price tag for me are definitely not worth it. I’m good with Koop.
@@AllJuveCast you keep referring to him as top 3 in Serie A but my point is, Atalanta is notorious for playing a brand of football that leads to inflated stats. The history will prove that. I look at Koop internationally and he is a good player but not a 60 million dollar guy. I am sorry. Maybe 45….and these guys want cash. F**k them. They thrive off deals like this. I would look outside of Italy for all of our deals. Stop funding our enemies who hate us. I would much rather pay a Kimmich (salary and all) for that kind of money and let Yildiz play the 10 role. He would have a greater impact on this team than Koop.
@Marc-B he is a top 3 mid in Serie A. This past season actually only second to Calhanoglu. 40 is the price for guys with a good season under their belt that have high ceilings, which may or may not pan out. 60 for a top 3 mid in the league who has had multiple strong seasons behind him who could occupy all the positions in the midfield is normal. Obviously we would like less but the drop from him to other targets is massive. This Atalanta play style thing, I’m not worried about when talking about midfielders. Maybe hybrid positions (like a Gosens who is better as wingback but sucks as a full back) but not mids. I want to hear a name of a guy in Koops range as far as ability that is less than that price.
@@AllJuveCast That’s where we disagree. I think he can help us no doubt. Is he 50 million more valuable than resigning Rabiot? I know Rabiot has worn out his welcome but we are still financially recovering. 60 million cash is worrisome. Let’s see what the final numbers are before we assess. Side note, this Canada game is electric…
Is Italy still getting 5 CL spots after this season as well? I hope so because this squad finishes no better than 5th, 4th if we are lucky. Both Milan’s are better, I fully expect Napoli to bounce back and if Roma lands Chiesa it’s over. Then we also have to worry about another surprise like Atalanta and Bologna last season. I haven’t been so down on a season since 06-07 for the obvious reason.
I don’t feel that way at all brother, the team isn’t even complete yet but we have all our top assets for the time being while bringing in upgrades in the middle. Koop would be a game changer imo too. Let’s see what happens. A lot can change.
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50 million plus bonus cash is massive. I like Koopmeiners but I really hope he's worth the price. I am expecting Koopmeiners as our Nedved for that price. Happy if we could get Sancho on a loan, with an option to buy at 30 million, although, he is a bit of a troublemaker and was already a troublemaker at Dortmund.
There’s risk involved for sure with Sancho. Hopefully we get him with no obligation.
Seems like giuntoli doesn’t like to miss on his main targets and the club is giving him free reign. Can’t wait til kickoff!
If we sell Hans, i hope its for a decent fee with a sell on clause.
Really Sancho, we are betyer off with Chiesa, no brainer.
Sanchos an overpriced headcase imo
If he doesn’t extend we could lose him for nothing. That’s the issue.
Just straight up, of course but the relationship is clearly suffering with Juve and Chiesa plus there’s no renewal there. It’s a tough spot.
I’d rather spend $50mill on Calafiori than Koop, and keep Chiesa.
Agree
And who would we have as an attacking midfielder?
@@michaelgagliardi3332 Samardzic comes at a fraction of the price of Koop.
@@Matt-ni8jh Yes but not as good offensively. Stats are clear. Nice player though.
@@michaelgagliardi3332 For sure, Koop is the more complete package. Its just this way we could've had Calafiori too.
I love the idea of Koop in our midfield but who does motta start if we let rabiot walk?
Locatelli,Koop, Luis?
Backed by Thuram, Miretti, Fagioli/Rovella?
If we land the Sancho move I think we won’t miss Fede. Sancho has just as high ceiling, younger and doesn’t have a injury problem. I really hope Swarit is going to be okey when Chiesa officially leaves.
I’m thinking about Swarit and our friend Muser99
I think Adeyemi would be a better option than Sancho cause I keep hearing everywhere that Sancho is a trouble maker and we really don’t need to be involved with players like that
Let’s do it!
60M for Koop! It ain’t my money 😂
😂😂😂
Pafundi and Camarda called up for the final training camp in Bozen ahead of Euros under 19yrs my dream players for Juve one day
Love both of those players. Pafundi more personally.
@@AllJuveCast listen Pafundi is Italy 🇮🇹 future number 10 I hope 🤞
Can we afford to overpay for Koop? I don't understand how we could possibly get Sancho if we sign Koop. And if we don't get Sancho and sell Chiesa for Koop, who do we play up front? With so many moving parts I really hesitate on losing Chiesa for the sole purpose of not losing money later, unless it's more money or he's part of a deal
It’s a domino effect right now, each and every move affects the next. It’ll be interesting to see how it pans out but for me, I do agree with Giuntoli that Koop is our top target.
I still don’t understand how we aren’t going all in for Ricky but willing to give Atalanta 60mil for Koop. If we loose Chiesa we have no Italians, disappointing
I think right now it’s about building the best squad available with everything going on and we still have Italians in the squad.
Di Gregorio
Cambiaso
Gatti
Fagioli
Locatelli
And more but the Italian connection also needs a strong talent pool, which isn’t really there at the moment.
Hello Beto, thank you very much, ciao
My pleasure. Also, it’s Berto 😂 but it’s all good my friend I’ve been called worse believe me 😂😂😂
Chiesa will leave. English clubs are also interested but Roma is the club with the most interest right now.
Sancho 6 months in Dortmund has been more than solid.
Im liking koop. Lets get that mettle in the middle - our weakest area last year.
I’m with you
If im being honest yeah im kinda worried that koop cant actually tops our fans wanted and be like zidane or maybe pirlo even loca cant do that...
I wouldn’t expect anyone to come in and be like a generational player but… I’m very confident Koopmeiners helps more than any of our mids who were on our roster last season. Especially offensively.
How is it possible for the Juventus men team to help pay for Alisha Lehmann for the womens team? Isn't there some sort of ffp in place for the womens side?
I don’t have those details yet and am wondering the same thing.
Sancho is not it. Mediocre stats from last season, behaviour/discipline issues, large wages, not Italian. There is a lot that I don't like about this idea, especially at the expense of Chiesa.
I don’t look at it as at the expense of Chiesa, I’m starting to feel like Chiesa is gone and it’s alternative time. I personally think Sancho is the best of the names we’ve heard tbh… nobody has stood out to me for names at forward.
Koopmeiners for me yes. The player wants it and to be here but £60M straight up is way too much. It will enable clubs like Atalanta and Bologna to always strong arm us in the future and that will become the new normal on steroids. Chiesa's time at the top will be no more if he goes to Roma. At 27 time flies. Roma MEH, no sight of a credible title push let alone CL slots even 5th. No Prem team will come forward for a 30+ player and Real have better players in that role for years to come. Sancho MEH. Like Rashford and all English players, they're hyped up to the point of embarrassing levels of copium. Good for the women's team but I have no hard feeling about it. Forced to watch City's women's play Chelsea last year and I fell asleep after 5 mins as it's too slow and boring.
I actually think that once Giuntoli establishes his base, he won’t be getting strong armed, I just believe Koopmeiners is a critical target for him to hit right now.
Once the foundation is laid, I don’t believe Giuntoli will have an issue taking his business elsewhere.
Of course like everything, time will tell.
Why help Atalanta? 60 million can get a decent player else where. Hard pass on Koop.
Who though? That is equal to a top 3 mid in Serie A?
The only other names around that price tag for me are definitely not worth it. I’m good with Koop.
@@AllJuveCast you keep referring to him as top 3 in Serie A but my point is, Atalanta is notorious for playing a brand of football that leads to inflated stats. The history will prove that. I look at Koop internationally and he is a good player but not a 60 million dollar guy. I am sorry. Maybe 45….and these guys want cash. F**k them. They thrive off deals like this. I would look outside of Italy for all of our deals. Stop funding our enemies who hate us. I would much rather pay a Kimmich (salary and all) for that kind of money and let Yildiz play the 10 role. He would have a greater impact on this team than Koop.
@Marc-B he is a top 3 mid in Serie A. This past season actually only second to Calhanoglu. 40 is the price for guys with a good season under their belt that have high ceilings, which may or may not pan out. 60 for a top 3 mid in the league who has had multiple strong seasons behind him who could occupy all the positions in the midfield is normal. Obviously we would like less but the drop from him to other targets is massive.
This Atalanta play style thing, I’m not worried about when talking about midfielders. Maybe hybrid positions (like a Gosens who is better as wingback but sucks as a full back) but not mids.
I want to hear a name of a guy in Koops range as far as ability that is less than that price.
@@AllJuveCast That’s where we disagree. I think he can help us no doubt. Is he 50 million more valuable than resigning Rabiot? I know Rabiot has worn out his welcome but we are still financially recovering. 60 million cash is worrisome. Let’s see what the final numbers are before we assess. Side note, this Canada game is electric…
She’s a smoke show
😂😂😂 yeah
Is Italy still getting 5 CL spots after this season as well? I hope so because this squad finishes no better than 5th, 4th if we are lucky. Both Milan’s are better, I fully expect Napoli to bounce back and if Roma lands Chiesa it’s over. Then we also have to worry about another surprise like Atalanta and Bologna last season. I haven’t been so down on a season since 06-07 for the obvious reason.
calmo
What? The Milan team is complete garbage. A good left side is all they have.
I don’t feel that way at all brother, the team isn’t even complete yet but we have all our top assets for the time being while bringing in upgrades in the middle. Koop would be a game changer imo too.
Let’s see what happens. A lot can change.