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What I perhaps admire most in your playing is how relaxed you are. No stress, no hurry, no contortionism, just notes and music flowing out effortlessly. IMHO this is how all real masters of the guitar play: Paco de Lucia, Manuel Barrueco, John Gomm, etc. Relaxation is key.
Love seeing Dr. Barry mentioned. He still does his weekly workshops on Zoom every Saturday - playing with him and talking to him, even through a screen, is such a gift. Anybody who wants to learn bebop and jazz should attend these workshops.
Based upon other things that I've actually heard Joe Pass say, his point about playing eigth note lines was not that it should be the preferred approach for soloing, but rather the need to play through the changes and not skate over them. The practice of having to play in this manner means that you wil have to target the chord in the progression, you cannot just step back from it and let it go by. Many of Joe's signature licks reinforce this and are not just an endless stream of eight notes. It's about being able to create movement through your line choices.
Many compositions are patterns arranged on a melodic way, Yngwie has some great compositions, just like Bach and you can notice lots of patterns there used on a very creative and musical way.
just found this channel, it's an absolute gold-mine, dude. instant sub i've been a rock guitarist for 15 years, trying to branch out and this kind of stuff is wonderful. You've got a new, well-earned fan :)
Your videos are so densely packed with great information. Honestly, it's a little deep for me at this point, I'm just watching and absorbing and pausing and committing some patterns and ideas to practice and memory. Often I wish there was a link or a tangent that explored and fleshed out the things you say to practice much more than you can in these short videos; but I know I'll get there if I keep trying. Thank you.
I've loved a lot of jazz over the last 30 years , mostly bebop, with Bird and Monk being favorites. At the same time I still love some neo classical Ikea shred :D
That one octave arpeggio idea is amazing. I've just been noodling around using this concept, and it sounds..... So musical!!! One thing I just learnt, the upper three notes in a minor7 chord is a major chord, and the upper three notes in a major7 chord is a minor chord. Huh!??!😆 Gotta love music
About the Joe Pass book and lessons from top musician in general. First: they often cannot convey what they really are doing. I read a scientific paper on how jazz drummers thought they made their swing-groove. Analyses of time and dynamics showed different from their explanation. The same can be seen in all kind of sweep-picking explanations Second: Joe Pass might be right on his continuous line as an excercise. Maybe he did not mean it for performances. But I really feel that their is a great difference between a virtuoso (that you try to play along with) and a good teacher that has ways to get you at higher level. And for sure that your video's stand out as teaching material, Jesse!
Thank you! I am not saying that it is not a skill to develop, I am just pointing out that it is not how Bop solos actually sound, simply because it is a fairly huge difference (and I have recommended that book so many times that if I am allowed to point out a flaw here and there)
@@JensLarsen wow Joe Pass is so great in harmonizing...I read he had a period under heroin and he did songs while hospitalized...there is an album about it...I haven t listened it yet...maybe it is called "Valium " 😂😂
ain't funny how it is? Yngve teached me arpeggios when I was learning the wrong way, memorizing scales (which is stupid, I know), and arpeggios lead me to chords progressions, that dragged me into jazz... and after almost a year learning (trying) jazz, there he is showing how NOT TO play jazz. love your lessons, Jens!
Another stellar vid, Jens! I count you and Barry Greene as a couple of the best jazz guitar teachers on the web. I too studied the JP book in the 70s. I consider it more a series of etudes to develop linear and harmonic connection. I've been a huge JP fan and he certainly plays with more elements of bebop than depicted there. I'm sure I'll get a lot of push back on this, but Pat Martino is a guy who though I recognize as quite talented, knows a ton of harmonic info and has great facility, his lines seem to be an example of more endless series of eighth notes than most other jazz players. So, not my fave. Thanx again for all the material and work involved. Rich
For what ever reason that same breakthrough you spoke of happened for me last night after watching this video. The one octave arps. Quantum leap. Thankyou thankyou thankyou.
Nice layout on the arpeggio exercise @ about 5:00. harmonized c scale with leading tone to each arp, which achieves a chromatically climbing bass action (for lack of better words).
More Bebop! I love that you got a chance to be with Barry in The Hague! That’s so cool, his codification is incredible. Thanks for all you do Jens! ❤️😊
Fantastic explanation as always! At one point I was studying with two teachers. One was making me put rests in different places over a 12 bar blues solo, while my other teacher made me practice continuous 8th notes over changes. From a practical standpoint, the first exercise improved my playing almost immediately. I do find value in the second exercise as well because it promotes forward thinking to put together a cohesive solo. That being said, I wouldn't want to PLAY like that.
one thing the sax teaches one (is that it is so easy to put 2 or 3 sounds right next to each other.. and go back and forth ) ie.. we don't have to spell out harmony via arps (we "add melodic content" as a dynamic linear weaving ) so unlike the guitarist of old.. we dont have to worry about rhythm or harmony (we have a rhythm section for that) we mostly just pay attention to the diatonic bones..Major Call.. minor response.. ( and where is that 251 ? ) .. M3.... M7 .. or ..b3 b7 (very reductive approach ) this song form .. has soooo much to be learned from it (its all Ive been doing for years really !) when all the 2s and 6s become Doms.. one finally feels some progress... when everything becomes m/M...or Dom... even more so.. ( bar 5 and 6 are the minor sound.. in the Blues... to my present way of thinking that happens to be the IV chord (but the top of it..(so if that IV is a Bb7 in F...its the hinge between Gmii and C7) both out sounds.. F G Bb C EF (G to Bb as "out" b3)... and Bb- E (tritone out) as the C7 ... and that next semi move up to F... sounds like Home to me (but that Home can alos be sounded by theM3 (A) as well ) so yeah.. all the costumes.. constantly switching.. the sax has taught me (Dr Wally Wallace) .. the concept of parallel minor (F7.. Fm (Bb7) .. so I hope to address these Billie's Bounce pages Jens.. I hope someone gets something out of these blocks of text ? ... music is personal.. but yeah.. rigidity is the enemy ( I love playing in Gb and calling B Cb...) it seems to connect a lot of "places" we don't usually process (the sidekeys on sax are C#/Db... G#/Ab (jazz is about being open and flexible( ie...that is Ab is b9"OUT" (G).. not as M3 G# sounding E as IN (Home ( ie.. are we leaving home.. going travelling ?.. or...maybe we are on our way back home (still traveling )...so yeah.. we all develop at our own pace... Jens .. you put out soooo much content !!! (Im just happy I can keep up with the stuff that connects me up (ie ...the one above (obviously over-excited !) adios.. apologies
After 2 years in the Netherlands I'm still struggling to say "hello" the proper way. In my guitar playing, after years and years of listening and playing jazz I still feel the same, but for each "goedmorgen" I manage to do well, I feel like it's always worth trying and trying again :)
Jens, great video. Your absolutely right about one octave arpeggio's and melodies from embellished chord tones being so important to the Bebop language. As far as scale patterns and endless long eighth and sixteenth note lines, their are some scale and arpeggio patterns in Bebop, but patterns and long lines are heard more in Modal and Jazz Rock styles of Jazz. In my humble opinion, some of Charlie Parker's best and most bebopish phrases and language is in the songs Cherokee (1943),Dont Blame Me (1947), and Donna Lee (1947). Also for any one thats interested, I think the best books on the Bebop language is Bebop Guitar by Joseph Weidlick and Forward Motion by Hal Galper. Bebop really is the foundation of Modern Jazz. Thanks.
I love the sound you get from your guitar. Are you getting that sound from an amp or developed through your audio interface? I don't know anything about audio interfaces, and I'm sure other followers feel the same way. If you get that sound from an audio interface, would you please explain how you get that rich sound? Love your videos!
Hi, Jens. It's good you mention connecting arpeggio with melody. You find lists -by excellent guitarists, not like me- of good advices for improvising with creativity ; but the fact is, as creepy a guitarist as I am, i saw they forget to relate to the fact that when you improvise, well, you improvise on at the start a melody.
Jens, another great video! For years I could never enter an Ikea without the ritual of stopping and taking a moment for the IKEA Monkey. Now I’m gonna have to take a moment to remember the Ikea shredder as well. Geeze thanks lol
Wish I could give this video more than one like! here you are Jens - great inspiration. Wish I could find an Ikea Swedish metal pattern playing saxophonist.
Seriously, if it wasn't for Yngwie, I might not be playing guitar and watching your channel! I know this sound weird but, take a Bm7b5, E7, Am change. Yngwie blazes over that with a diminished arpeggio and the harmonic minor scale! And of course implying an E7b9 chord in the process. So in a very strange way he gave me an introduction to jazz. (I told this to a jazz teacher once, and he wouldn't buy this logic). But I was inspired to practice because of that guy. And eventually started branching off to other forms of music. But the IKEA thing is funny as hell, just don't say that to his face! He's quite tall I hear.
Hey if you are going to pick on The Fury and metal you might as well get to the root of that and pick on certain periods of "classical" that it is really derived from
Thanks Jens.. I always learn something useful .. via your playing (with my ears) and with the pdf's (in conjunction etc) this is really great stuff (I had a "Mel Bay" Joe Pass book back in the 80s (I have really missed it many times..no idea where it got to ?) I remember it had the concept of "back cycling".. anyway.. jazz (1 form of it anyway 12 bar..32 bar RC) is making a lot of sense "as conversational language" (for me quite recently ) Ive stayed in G7( for a year) on Tenor... and learned to identify that BM3.. by ear (A concert ) as F7 (all my harmonic knowledge stems from placing that A as Major 3rd sounding F7( and I can barre 1 and get that Fm6 in Ab).. so as ONE THING (hearing directional movements.. in 8ths....1a2a..3a4a ( and as you were saying.. getting that landing on 3 or 1 etc (its been difficult for me to hear that as the 5th note (guitar is easier .. down up down up )... but basically.. I re-addressed Puff the Magic Dragon.. and listened to that 2/5 in bar 7 .. (if one uses that Puff form ..G Bm Am7 D G Bm Am7/D7 G.... heard very easily.. Sinatra... "the summer Breeze.."..ie... this goes to that .. and that goes over to that ... and this might go over there... and what Jim Hall calls.. "moving it along" (its a very melodic approach (linear) ... to just 2 changes.. 1-6- 2-5 ... as call and response... and all the iterations of that) ... but that is Bmiii.. subbing for em6... and its ambiguous in how one can harmonize over that in so many ways(not really a D7 fist time thru ... it used so confusing as far as "the labelling".. "as all the modal inter-weaving ..become a sort of ziggety zaggety line of ..outs going in...and... ins going out (as you know the movements are very chromatic ...and lots of moving to the V7 below.. but as above etc (all the diatonic hinging ) and the enclosures (its so fascinating ) no wonder .. its so "relational"..its hard to "pin it down" as one thing.. yet.. it is one thing.. the sax teaches one that.. its one note following another.. so .. whats before.. whats after.. and what does it "sound" like (and thats what theory cant really get to (one has to "listen".. and identify".. the most natural way to contextualise.. so one can learn to speak the language.. as it speaks you (and YES..via SONGS !) thanks Jens for Billy's Bounce
I'm curious, when you teach at conservatory are the classes in Dutch, English or Danish? I'm guessing it would be Dutch except when Barry Harris was teaching. But maybe with international students it would be English.
What's your opinion on Dutch Style Gypsy Jazz where is it hugely pattern based? They're still hitting the changes and the lines have good voice leading but they're mostly lick based.
Jens, hope you read this. Im writtin from Catamarca, Argentina, and i wanted you to know that im very very grateful for your videos. Thanks a lot, ill make you a pie. haha
I love the way you joke with other styles of music! 😂 And is the second time I heard you don’t agree wit Joe Pass... the first time was about arpeggios... 👍🏼 Thanks for supporting all jazz novices!
@@JensLarsen Oh god, sorry, I didn't wanted to say that average guitar player in metal sucks or something like that. I just think he stands out for those two qualities. P.s: Life goal achieved, jens larsen replied me, thank you.
Great stuff Jens! Working on this now, and the most challenging and rewarding part is trying to hear and play the connective parts between the easily recognizable arpeggios and cliches. Question - where to start with Barry Harris? Ive been playing scales with his basic half step rule, but have no structure or idea where to really begin with him.
Thanks Ben! I don't know where to start with Barry Harris stuff, I was just thrown into his masterclasses and could make sense of some of it but not all of it and then gradually I learned to follow along. I would suggest starting with being able to play the scales on tunes, and then work on composing lines, essentially that is what he does in the classes. From there you can start adding chromaticism and pivot arpeggios.
I never saw arpeggios so strict. I saw it more as seperate notes from a part from a scale for which the 3th and the 7th had the most definition of that sound color. So if you add a 9th is just another tone of the scale and i don’t see that as using a complete different arpeggio (which it technically is, or does a ninth arpeggio with 5 notes exist?) But i’m not a bebop jazz player… maybe thats why…
Yes, but thinking like that means that you are not re-using the things you are practicing and you have to construct it instead of use that it is already a set of notes that you can play and can hear as a melody. This is really useful if you want to play especially faster lines-
Indeed i like improvising a lot. Like one of you’re previous examples with a jazz turnaround. I can make that work just by knowing the flat nine’s and the scales. Maybe it doesn’t sound like bebop but it does sound good. You are right that if the lines get fast using pre exercised licks /arpeggios would help a lot. But it would not feel like improvising anymore. Or do you think that those excersises would make me able to translate what i hear in my head to the guitar faster?
@@karlderdelinckx Yes, the exercises would help you hear chunks of melody. Right now you are thinking each note which is like spelling everything when you are talking, but if you were to learn words instead then you would have a ,much easier time telling a story. You just need to stop thinking of an arpeggio as a pre-exercised lick and more like a word you can learn to use in a sentence.
This made me think if chick corea or keith jarett would use the same technique? I still think that that would make me use the same note progressions of the ones i prefer most. Instead of being free wherever i can go but knowing the bounderies where to stay within and knowing which directions make the sound intresting. It s like a drummer learns all the ritme’s he can play. But than he can go freely with the sounds he chooses by choosing which tom’s or cymbals he hits.
As a Swede I take offense...hahaha. Yngwie was great when he was about 18 and his demos was floating around before his first album. But now is a caricature of himself for the last 35 years.
Bird, Dizzy, Monk, Bud Powell, Fats Navarro and Kenny Clarke played 4 different instruments. Bebop was created during an era of corny ass popular music of the day and show tunes, to create a more sophisticated way of improvising using a blues based and harmonically advanced system. In short, it was created by African American musicians in the U.S. for themselves.
@@JensLarsen Humor is subjective. You're comment about being the next "medium swing Yngwie" was hilarious. This time I think you missed the mark. You're much better at explaining secondary dominants and tritone subs than being a standup comic. I don't click Dave Chappelle videos to hear him go on and on about triad pairs in melodic minor, but a lot of comics make fun of Jerry Seinfeld, so I get it. Yngwie is low hanging fruit. It's easy to make fun of him, but it's beneath someone of your caliber. He's got a driveway full of Ferrari's so it's hard to feel sorry for him so I won't. That being said, I'll steal his licks, and he's got some good ones, just like I steal yours, or any other guitar player I find interesting. Now give us some Django licks. At least he could bend a string.
@@EarthAltar Making fun of is not the same as looking down on, that is purely your interpretation. I have a lot of respect for Yngwie, but I think he was a great help in making a lot of people understanding how scale patterns are a core part of metal and not of Jazz.
Just the idea of one practicing only one octave arpeggios instead of these needlessly uncomfortable 2 octave arpeggio traditional way will make you way better at jazz
All genres have their own cliches. As a rock, blues, prog, funk, fusion, neo-classical and thrash metal guitarist who is trying to learn more jazz, country, and more classical; and who always sends people to your channel when they express an interest in learning jazz, I can assure you you've lost at least a couple of subscribers over being so clearly biased against a genre that I admit has just as many cliches as jazz, or any other genre. Just a lowly metal guitarists opinion who is an avid fan of your excellent lessons. :)
Making fun of Yngwie is not being biased against metal. And I am not biased against metal, or any other genre of music for that matter. To me, that is just looking to be offended, which is quite common on the internet, but still... And my subscriber count doesn't seem to be racing down, so most metal fans probably get it, usually they are the first to make fun of Yngwie :)
As a now old guy, I can confirm that 1980s metal fans made fun of YJM for running up and down scale patterns or ripping off Paganini lines from the time the first Rising Force album came out.
There are funny video's of rock players making fun of jazzers e.g. how high we jazzers tend to hang our guitar. Use these to restore the balance, Aylbdr Madison.
7:27 bad taste. Ikea shredder? Cmon, man. He's from Sweden so why not say Sweden instead of insinuate that his licks are cheaply made like Ikea stuff? Malmsteen is a great neoclassical metal guitarist (he basically popularized it and took it to new levels of speed and badassery) and he doesn't just do patterns or scale runs or long arpeggios. That pattern he was demonstrating is certainly a pattern going up one string but it's like why not put Bach in your vid and bash him too? He didn't play jazz and bebop.
@@JensLarsen I didn't find it humorous, no. I have a great sense of humor but that "joke" went over like a lead balloon. Ikea shredder? Then you put a crap clip in as if to make him look inept. Sad.
@@TruthSurge You are reading waaaay too much into this 😁I just took a random clip of him playing a scale sequence, you are inventing the rest. I was not trying to make him look bad, I actually have a lot of respect for what he has done even if he does make a fool of himself from time to time. Take it easy with the conspiracy theories and try not to get too worked up on the internet, you will have a better time.
Haha I love most types of music including Death Metal/shred and stand up comedy. Everyone should be able to laugh at themselves. Like Yngwie is a complete snob "more is more". He's fair game. And jazz musos are snobs because of technicality. Flea grew up as a jazz snob (autobio) but then the rock/ funk "slapped" him. 😅 Everyone has a different subjective path. Most famous songs are 3 chords anyway. I might just learn left handed and go back to basics. It might help with jazz
@@joshforest304 sure, everyone has their opinions/beliefs. Keep the world free and open so Jens can make his jabs uh, I mean jokes and I can make my opinions about them known! You can chime in, too! It's great as long as we don't just start slinging mud (or poop) like monkeys. Rock on.
Wrong. What is a frequency if not the simplest kind of pattern? Then it’s patterns of frequencies that make up chords and melodies. And then it’s another pattern of those that make up a song, never mind all the more obvious rhythmic patterns involved. Without periodicity it’s just noise.
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Should I burn it ? 🤔🤔🤔😂😂🤣I agree with you...silence can be music...so I stop talking😂😂😂
I have this book from J.Pass...
Yes, I do. I didn't understand it until I found your channel
for me: bebop is to instrumental music as AAVE is to rap music. ?
"Don't get stuck in bars" is good general life advice
😂😄 Indeed! We aim to help as much as possible!
I disagree 🤣
@@JazzGuitarScrapbook A Follower of liquid jazz lessons?
ROTFLMAO
My mom was always concerned that I would end up playing in bars.. and sure enough I am.. 🤔
“The IKEA Shredder”, priceless.
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Watch out, he may have just released the Fury!
@@youren8 That is only a problem if you are a stewardess, right?
What I perhaps admire most in your playing is how relaxed you are. No stress, no hurry, no contortionism, just notes and music flowing out effortlessly. IMHO this is how all real masters of the guitar play: Paco de Lucia, Manuel Barrueco, John Gomm, etc. Relaxation is key.
Thank you! Not every day I am in that type of company 😁
Relaxation is indeed one of the most important things in technique
Love seeing Dr. Barry mentioned. He still does his weekly workshops on Zoom every Saturday - playing with him and talking to him, even through a screen, is such a gift. Anybody who wants to learn bebop and jazz should attend these workshops.
Barry Harris is a gift for teaching and demystifying Bop!
Based upon other things that I've actually heard Joe Pass say, his point about playing eigth note lines was not that it should be the preferred approach for soloing, but rather the need to play through the changes and not skate over them. The practice of having to play in this manner means that you wil have to target the chord in the progression, you cannot just step back from it and let it go by. Many of Joe's signature licks reinforce this and are not just an endless stream of eight notes. It's about being able to create movement through your line choices.
I am actually also not saying that, which is why I point out that he doesn't play like that.
Many compositions are patterns arranged on a melodic way, Yngwie has some great compositions, just like Bach and you can notice lots of patterns there used on a very creative and musical way.
just found this channel, it's an absolute gold-mine, dude. instant sub
i've been a rock guitarist for 15 years, trying to branch out and this kind of stuff is wonderful.
You've got a new, well-earned fan :)
Awesome, thank you!
I haven't watched for a while. but now I've come back, and WOW Jens. The production improved EXPONENTIALLY! great lesson too!
Welcome back! Glad you like it!
5:18: "Best Jazz Hack since 1942":
An anonymous nod to Charlie Christian (1916-1942). Well played!
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I had to learn multiple ways of playing the same thing so I could figure out which way flows the best. Reading music is a MUST when doing this
Your videos are so densely packed with great information. Honestly, it's a little deep for me at this point, I'm just watching and absorbing and pausing and committing some patterns and ideas to practice and memory. Often I wish there was a link or a tangent that explored and fleshed out the things you say to practice much more than you can in these short videos; but I know I'll get there if I keep trying. Thank you.
Thank you, Chris! Great that you are really going for it! 🙂
I've loved a lot of jazz over the last 30 years , mostly bebop, with Bird and Monk being favorites. At the same time I still love some neo classical Ikea shred :D
That's great! You need to be aware of more types of music :)
In my world, I can love you AND Yngwie!🇨🇦
Of course! :D For all his faults the guy pretty much invented a subgenre..
That one octave arpeggio idea is amazing. I've just been noodling around using this concept, and it sounds..... So musical!!!
One thing I just learnt, the upper three notes in a minor7 chord is a major chord, and the upper three notes in a major7 chord is a minor chord. Huh!??!😆 Gotta love music
Great! Go for it 🙂
I learn so much from your lessons man, thank you! I don't think I'd ever gotten into trying to play jazz if not for this channel.
At least, somebody REALLY teaching jazz guitar. Many thanks for that, Jens.
About the Joe Pass book and lessons from top musician in general. First: they often cannot convey what they really are doing. I read a scientific paper on how jazz drummers thought they made their swing-groove. Analyses of time and dynamics showed different from their explanation. The same can be seen in all kind of sweep-picking explanations
Second: Joe Pass might be right on his continuous line as an excercise. Maybe he did not mean it for performances.
But I really feel that their is a great difference between a virtuoso (that you try to play along with) and a good teacher that has ways to get you at higher level. And for sure that your video's stand out as teaching material, Jesse!
Thank you! I am not saying that it is not a skill to develop, I am just pointing out that it is not how Bop solos actually sound, simply because it is a fairly huge difference (and I have recommended that book so many times that if I am allowed to point out a flaw here and there)
@@JensLarsen wow Joe Pass is so great in harmonizing...I read he had a period under heroin and he did songs while hospitalized...there is an album about it...I haven t listened it yet...maybe it is called "Valium " 😂😂
ain't funny how it is? Yngve teached me arpeggios when I was learning the wrong way, memorizing scales (which is stupid, I know), and arpeggios lead me to chords progressions, that dragged me into jazz... and after almost a year learning (trying) jazz, there he is showing how NOT TO play jazz. love your lessons, Jens!
Another stellar vid, Jens! I count you and Barry Greene as a couple of the best jazz guitar teachers on the web.
I too studied the JP book in the 70s. I consider it more a series of etudes to develop linear and harmonic connection.
I've been a huge JP fan and he certainly plays with more elements of bebop than depicted there.
I'm sure I'll get a lot of push back on this, but Pat Martino is a guy who though I recognize as quite talented, knows a ton of harmonic info and has great facility, his lines seem to be an example of more endless series of eighth notes than most other jazz players. So, not my fave.
Thanx again for all the material and work involved.
Rich
Thanks! It is ok not to love everybody's playing :)
For what ever reason that same breakthrough you spoke of happened for me last night after watching this video. The one octave arps. Quantum leap. Thankyou thankyou thankyou.
That's great! 🙂 Really glad to hear that
The breakdown solo at the min 2:57 is soooooo GREATTTTT!!! when you see that you understand much more! Thanks!!!!
You're very welcome! I am glad you like it! 🙂
Nice layout on the arpeggio exercise @ about 5:00. harmonized c scale with leading tone to each arp, which achieves a chromatically climbing bass action (for lack of better words).
Goddag Jens. Du er en rigtigt godt laerer!! Osse for bassister!! Tak.
Det er rart at høre! :)
Did he just call Yngwie "Ikea Shredder "??!?!?! Hahah
He certainly did! It is my cultural duty as a Danish person to make fun of the Swedish...
@@JensLarsen, you are a legend! Thank you for everything
More Bebop! I love that you got a chance to be with Barry in The Hague! That’s so cool, his codification is incredible. Thanks for all you do Jens! ❤️😊
Thank you! I will make more 🙂let me know if you want a playlist with some of my other boo videos
@@JensLarsen that would be great 😁
@@ianleemusic Start here: th-cam.com/video/WKvjZh0TSvs/w-d-xo.html
There are more playlists and videos though :)
Thank you jens I've just started studying bebop. It's a beautiful language.
Go for it!
Fantastic explanation as always! At one point I was studying with two teachers. One was making me put rests in different places over a 12 bar blues solo, while my other teacher made me practice continuous 8th notes over changes. From a practical standpoint, the first exercise improved my playing almost immediately. I do find value in the second exercise as well because it promotes forward thinking to put together a cohesive solo. That being said, I wouldn't want to PLAY like that.
Thanks for your creative approach to jazz
Glad you like the videos! 🙂
Another great informative lesson , I'm liking the arpeggio from the 3rd of the scale 🎶 thanks Jens 🎸👌
You're very welcome! I am glad you like it! 🙂
Excelente lección y material. Muchas gracias maestro.
Glad you like it!
This stuff is gold. Thanks so much Jens!
Glad it was helpful!
Jens, I subscribed a while ago. Your videos are so informative and helpful - thank you
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Thank you! I am glad you find the videos useful 🙂
Incredible lesson, Jens, thank you so much….and your intro is rippin!
Thank you! Glad you like it 🙂
one thing the sax teaches one (is that it is so easy to put 2 or 3 sounds right next to each other.. and go back and forth ) ie.. we don't have to spell out harmony via arps (we "add melodic content" as a dynamic linear weaving ) so unlike the guitarist of old.. we dont have to worry about rhythm or harmony (we have a rhythm section for that) we mostly just pay attention to the diatonic bones..Major Call.. minor response.. ( and where is that 251 ? ) .. M3.... M7 .. or ..b3 b7 (very reductive approach ) this song form .. has soooo much to be learned from it (its all Ive been doing for years really !) when all the 2s and 6s become Doms.. one finally feels some progress... when everything becomes m/M...or Dom... even more so.. ( bar 5 and 6 are the minor sound.. in the Blues... to my present way of thinking that happens to be the IV chord (but the top of it..(so if that IV is a Bb7 in F...its the hinge between Gmii and C7) both out sounds.. F G Bb C EF (G to Bb as "out" b3)... and Bb- E (tritone out) as the C7 ... and that next semi move up to F... sounds like Home to me (but that Home can alos be sounded by theM3 (A) as well ) so yeah.. all the costumes.. constantly switching.. the sax has taught me (Dr Wally Wallace) .. the concept of parallel minor (F7.. Fm (Bb7) .. so I hope to address these Billie's Bounce pages Jens.. I hope someone gets something out of these blocks of text ? ... music is personal.. but yeah.. rigidity is the enemy ( I love playing in Gb and calling B Cb...) it seems to connect a lot of "places" we don't usually process (the sidekeys on sax are C#/Db... G#/Ab (jazz is about being open and flexible( ie...that is Ab is b9"OUT" (G).. not as M3 G# sounding E as IN (Home ( ie.. are we leaving home.. going travelling ?.. or...maybe we are on our way back home (still traveling )...so yeah.. we all develop at our own pace... Jens .. you put out soooo much content !!! (Im just happy I can keep up with the stuff that connects me up (ie ...the one above (obviously over-excited !) adios.. apologies
After 2 years in the Netherlands I'm still struggling to say "hello" the proper way. In my guitar playing, after years and years of listening and playing jazz I still feel the same, but for each "goedmorgen" I manage to do well, I feel like it's always worth trying and trying again :)
Exactly! Just keep at it :) (and a delayed welcome to the Netherlands!)
@@JensLarsen hahaha thank you very much !!
@Julien Drouot And sorry about the bread 😂
@@JensLarsen don't even get me started on food here !! No offense Netherlands I love you, but I really miss French food hahahah
@@juliendrouot128 I feel your pain!! 😂
Whoa, the Ikea shredder! I wish I could take that one back to 1990.
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Jens, thank you for sharing your knowledge clear explanation
Glad it was helpful!
Just found your channel and learned from your autumn leaves video, thanks heaps mate! 👍🙂
Glad you like it 🙂
"The IKEA Shredder" 😂 nice Jens. Yngway is still great though. Hands like a bricklayer. Good tute man. Generous as usual, thanks mate 🇦🇺
Jens, great video. Your absolutely right about one octave arpeggio's and melodies from embellished chord tones being so important to the Bebop language. As far as scale patterns and endless long eighth and sixteenth note lines, their are some scale and arpeggio patterns in Bebop, but patterns and long lines are heard more in Modal and Jazz Rock styles of Jazz. In my humble opinion, some of Charlie Parker's best and most bebopish phrases and language is in the songs Cherokee (1943),Dont Blame Me (1947), and Donna Lee (1947). Also for any one thats interested, I think the best books on the Bebop language is Bebop Guitar by Joseph Weidlick and Forward Motion by Hal Galper. Bebop really is the foundation of Modern Jazz. Thanks.
Thanks Michael! There are a lot of great Parker solos, I did a video on the Cherokee solo a few years ago: th-cam.com/video/w9pxmkijH9c/w-d-xo.html
I’m going to work on this. THANKS!
Go for it!
I’m really satisfied with this informations and mindset. Thank you Jens, this is motivating to practice bebop again :)
You're very welcome! I am glad you like it! 🙂
I love the sound you get from your guitar. Are you getting that sound from an amp or developed through your audio interface? I don't know anything about audio interfaces, and I'm sure other followers feel the same way. If you get that sound from an audio interface, would you please explain how you get that rich sound? Love your videos!
I view Jazz lines like you are on a path, and that it’s really easy to get lost on.
I manage to go a few meters than fall off.
That is a good way to look at it, you just need to work on the last part a bit more :)
Hi, Jens. It's good you mention connecting arpeggio with melody. You find lists -by excellent guitarists, not like me- of good advices for improvising with creativity ; but the fact is, as creepy a guitarist as I am, i saw they forget to relate to the fact that when you improvise, well, you improvise on at the start a melody.
Jens, another great video! For years I could never enter an Ikea without the ritual of stopping and taking a moment for the IKEA Monkey. Now I’m gonna have to take a moment to remember the Ikea shredder as well. Geeze thanks lol
Haha! Sounds good 👍
Another great video Jens!
What you say about arpeggios I would also say for scales.
Indeed! Thanks :)
woah Adam Neely shoutout 0:50. Jens watches Adam confirmed! Love both of yall
ooh brilliant way you cut to the chase with some simple concepts!
Thank you
Wish I could give this video more than one like!
here you are Jens - great inspiration.
Wish I could find an Ikea Swedish metal pattern playing saxophonist.
You can do it!
@@JensLarsen I will definitely try :)
Dear Jens. Please publish a text, w accompanying vid/disc. Your compassionate generosity needs to compensated. Cheers n Happy New Year
Seriously, if it wasn't for Yngwie, I might not be playing guitar and watching your channel! I know this sound weird but, take a Bm7b5, E7, Am change. Yngwie blazes over that with a diminished arpeggio and the harmonic minor scale! And of course implying an E7b9 chord in the process. So in a very strange way he gave me an introduction to jazz. (I told this to a jazz teacher once, and he wouldn't buy this logic). But I was inspired to practice because of that guy. And eventually started branching off to other forms of music. But the IKEA thing is funny as hell, just don't say that to his face! He's quite tall I hear.
That's great! I have to say that I also think it is a stretch to say that Yngwie using harmonic minor got you into Jazz :D But that's ok :)
Hey if you are going to pick on The Fury and metal you might as well get to the root of that and pick on certain periods of "classical" that it is really derived from
Yes, but that is nowhere near as much fun....
Great stuff Jens! Do you also teach the Billie´s Bounce Transcription? Or is it available in some way?
It i available on Patreon and I have a few videos on there that also uses bits from it
Thanks Jens.. I always learn something useful .. via your playing (with my ears) and with the pdf's (in conjunction etc) this is really great stuff (I had a "Mel Bay" Joe Pass book back in the 80s (I have really missed it many times..no idea where it got to ?) I remember it had the concept of "back cycling".. anyway.. jazz (1 form of it anyway 12 bar..32 bar RC) is making a lot of sense "as conversational language" (for me quite recently ) Ive stayed in G7( for a year) on Tenor... and learned to identify that BM3.. by ear (A concert ) as F7 (all my harmonic knowledge stems from placing that A as Major 3rd sounding F7( and I can barre 1 and get that Fm6 in Ab).. so as ONE THING (hearing directional movements.. in 8ths....1a2a..3a4a ( and as you were saying.. getting that landing on 3 or 1 etc (its been difficult for me to hear that as the 5th note (guitar is easier .. down up down up )... but basically.. I re-addressed Puff the Magic Dragon.. and listened to that 2/5 in bar 7 .. (if one uses that Puff form ..G Bm Am7 D G Bm Am7/D7 G.... heard very easily.. Sinatra... "the summer Breeze.."..ie... this goes to that .. and that goes over to that ... and this might go over there... and what Jim Hall calls.. "moving it along" (its a very melodic approach (linear) ... to just 2 changes.. 1-6- 2-5 ... as call and response... and all the iterations of that) ... but that is Bmiii.. subbing for em6... and its ambiguous in how one can harmonize over that in so many ways(not really a D7 fist time thru ... it used so confusing as far as "the labelling".. "as all the modal inter-weaving ..become a sort of ziggety zaggety line of ..outs going in...and... ins going out (as you know the movements are very chromatic ...and lots of moving to the V7 below.. but as above etc (all the diatonic hinging ) and the enclosures (its so fascinating ) no wonder .. its so "relational"..its hard to "pin it down" as one thing.. yet.. it is one thing.. the sax teaches one that.. its one note following another.. so .. whats before.. whats after.. and what does it "sound" like (and thats what theory cant really get to (one has to "listen".. and identify".. the most natural way to contextualise.. so one can learn to speak the language.. as it speaks you (and YES..via SONGS !) thanks Jens for Billy's Bounce
apologies (typo) .. Billie's Bounce (not Billy as written)
The Ikea Shredder 😂😂😂 laughed so hard
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Good stuff. Thanks
I'm curious, when you teach at conservatory are the classes in Dutch, English or Danish? I'm guessing it would be Dutch except when Barry Harris was teaching. But maybe with international students it would be English.
That is a strange question? 🙂
It depends on the student.
What's your opinion on Dutch Style Gypsy Jazz where is it hugely pattern based? They're still hitting the changes and the lines have good voice leading but they're mostly lick based.
If they like it and have fun playing it then it is fine with me, I don't really have an opinion on it.
Such a GREATTTTT video!!!!!
Thank you 🙂
Jens, hope you read this. Im writtin from Catamarca, Argentina, and i wanted you to know that im very very grateful for your videos. Thanks a lot, ill make you a pie. haha
Your videos are very useful, thank you.
Glad you like them!
I love the way you joke with other styles of music! 😂 And is the second time I heard you don’t agree wit Joe Pass... the first time was about arpeggios... 👍🏼 Thanks for supporting all jazz novices!
Thank you! :) True, you can't agree with everybody all the time
@@JensLarsen I disagree with that statement.
@@BL55 😂👍
Yeaaaaaah cameo !
What do you think about David Davidson? I feel like he's one of the few guitar players in metal who really has rhythm and melody for his solos.
I don't know him, but there are a lot of great players in metal.
@@JensLarsen Oh god, sorry, I didn't wanted to say that average guitar player in metal sucks or something like that. I just think he stands out for those two qualities.
P.s: Life goal achieved, jens larsen replied me, thank you.
I'd love to see you do a Barry Harris video.
Thanks! :)
Nothing like learning bebop heads!
Great stuff Jens! Working on this now, and the most challenging and rewarding part is trying to hear and play the connective parts between the easily recognizable arpeggios and cliches.
Question - where to start with Barry Harris? Ive been playing scales with his basic half step rule, but have no structure or idea where to really begin with him.
Thanks Ben! I don't know where to start with Barry Harris stuff, I was just thrown into his masterclasses and could make sense of some of it but not all of it and then gradually I learned to follow along. I would suggest starting with being able to play the scales on tunes, and then work on composing lines, essentially that is what he does in the classes. From there you can start adding chromaticism and pivot arpeggios.
@@JensLarsen thanks - I'll take that approach
yeah.. Thanks Jens.. Top Shelf Gold... ( a very interesting song form (ok.. 3 x 12 bars )
Did not expect that dig at Yngwie, "Ikea Shredder" 🤣
Yngwie is actually the one who got me into jazz -- he is the ANTI - BOP!
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Like ornaments and figures in the baroque music, which was improvised
Thanks!
Brilliant
Thank you 🙂
Don’t play constant 8th notes... Pat Martino is like - hold my beer 😂
And nobody else seems to get away with that :)
I never saw arpeggios so strict.
I saw it more as seperate notes from a part from a scale for which the 3th and the 7th had the most definition of that sound color.
So if you add a 9th is just another tone of the scale and i don’t see that as using a complete different arpeggio (which it technically is, or does a ninth arpeggio with 5 notes exist?)
But i’m not a bebop jazz player… maybe thats why…
Yes, but thinking like that means that you are not re-using the things you are practicing and you have to construct it instead of use that it is already a set of notes that you can play and can hear as a melody. This is really useful if you want to play especially faster lines-
Indeed i like improvising a lot. Like one of you’re previous examples with a jazz turnaround. I can make that work just by knowing the flat nine’s and the scales.
Maybe it doesn’t sound like bebop but it does sound good.
You are right that if the lines get fast using pre exercised licks /arpeggios would help a lot. But it would not feel like improvising anymore.
Or do you think that those excersises would make me able to translate what i hear in my head to the guitar faster?
@@karlderdelinckx Yes, the exercises would help you hear chunks of melody.
Right now you are thinking each note which is like spelling everything when you are talking, but if you were to learn words instead then you would have a ,much easier time telling a story.
You just need to stop thinking of an arpeggio as a pre-exercised lick and more like a word you can learn to use in a sentence.
This made me think if chick corea or keith jarett would use the same technique?
I still think that that would make me use the same note progressions of the ones i prefer most. Instead of being free wherever i can go but knowing the bounderies where to stay within and knowing which directions make the sound intresting.
It s like a drummer learns all the ritme’s he can play. But than he can go freely with the sounds he chooses by choosing which tom’s or cymbals he hits.
@@karlderdelinckx yes, but it is also like spelling all words you say, because each note has to be a choice.
“The IKEA shredder”!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Bebop is the most important ingredient of modern jazz. Agreed. But it’s damn complicated.
But that is also what is nice about it, or not?
@@JensLarsen Yup, it's like a jig saw puzzle that never ends. It's great when you fill in a couple of pieces!
Yngwie the "Ikea shredder" 🤣🤣too funny
Thank you 🙂
As a Swede I take offense...hahaha. Yngwie was great when he was about 18 and his demos was floating around before his first album. But now is a caricature of himself for the last 35 years.
Fair enough 😁 Yngwie is great at what he does, but still easy to make fun of
lol, wen u said no music is just pattern i immediately thougt, what about yngwie?
Hahahaha! We think alike :D
ah man you don't allow links anymore?
nice advice...
You're very welcome! I am glad you like it! 🙂
se possivel ativa as legendas 🥲
"IKEA-shredder"... ROTFL
Thank you!
Bird, Dizzy, Monk, Bud Powell, Fats Navarro and Kenny Clarke played 4 different instruments. Bebop was created during an era of corny ass popular music of the day and show tunes, to create a more sophisticated way of improvising using a blues based and harmonically advanced system. In short, it was created by African American musicians in the U.S. for themselves.
The IKEA shredder
The one and only 😁
hi adam
A wise man never looks up to, or down on, anyone.
Indeed, and most wise men have a sense of humor
@@JensLarsen Humor is subjective. You're comment about being the next "medium swing Yngwie" was hilarious. This time I think you missed the mark. You're much better at explaining secondary dominants and tritone subs than being a standup comic. I don't click Dave Chappelle videos to hear him go on and on about triad pairs in melodic minor, but a lot of comics make fun of Jerry Seinfeld, so I get it. Yngwie is low hanging fruit. It's easy to make fun of him, but it's beneath someone of your caliber. He's got a driveway full of Ferrari's so it's hard to feel sorry for him so I won't. That being said, I'll steal his licks, and he's got some good ones, just like I steal yours, or any other guitar player I find interesting. Now give us some Django licks. At least he could bend a string.
@@EarthAltar Making fun of is not the same as looking down on, that is purely your interpretation.
I have a lot of respect for Yngwie, but I think he was a great help in making a lot of people understanding how scale patterns are a core part of metal and not of Jazz.
Just the idea of one practicing only one octave arpeggios instead of these needlessly uncomfortable 2 octave arpeggio traditional way will make you way better at jazz
That can be true, but of course there is a time and a place for everything.
"... the 'Ikea Shredder' "
BWAH HA HA HA HA
Great video 🤜🤛
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed
Be Bop Deluxe..!
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My teacher said.. Same to me
Now take these bebop ideas and evolve shred even more.
Yes, please 😁
All genres have their own cliches. As a rock, blues, prog, funk, fusion, neo-classical and thrash metal guitarist who is trying to learn more jazz, country, and more classical; and who always sends people to your channel when they express an interest in learning jazz, I can assure you you've lost at least a couple of subscribers over being so clearly biased against a genre that I admit has just as many cliches as jazz, or any other genre. Just a lowly metal guitarists opinion who is an avid fan of your excellent lessons. :)
Making fun of Yngwie is not being biased against metal. And I am not biased against metal, or any other genre of music for that matter.
To me, that is just looking to be offended, which is quite common on the internet, but still... And my subscriber count doesn't seem to be racing down, so most metal fans probably get it, usually they are the first to make fun of Yngwie :)
As a now old guy, I can confirm that 1980s metal fans made fun of YJM for running up and down scale patterns or ripping off Paganini lines from the time the first Rising Force album came out.
There are funny video's of rock players making fun of jazzers e.g. how high we jazzers tend to hang our guitar. Use these to restore the balance, Aylbdr Madison.
Sometimes jazz sucks
Sometimes metal rules
Sometimes Is the opposite thing
Super 🙏❤️👌🎸🎶🎼🎵🇮🇱thanks.
You're very welcome! I am glad you like it! 🙂
7:27 bad taste. Ikea shredder? Cmon, man. He's from Sweden so why not say Sweden instead of insinuate that his licks are cheaply made like Ikea stuff? Malmsteen is a great neoclassical metal guitarist (he basically popularized it and took it to new levels of speed and badassery) and he doesn't just do patterns or scale runs or long arpeggios. That pattern he was demonstrating is certainly a pattern going up one string but it's like why not put Bach in your vid and bash him too? He didn't play jazz and bebop.
So I guess humor is not really your thing? 😁
@@JensLarsen I didn't find it humorous, no. I have a great sense of humor but that "joke" went over like a lead balloon. Ikea shredder? Then you put a crap clip in as if to make him look inept. Sad.
@@TruthSurge You are reading waaaay too much into this 😁I just took a random clip of him playing a scale sequence, you are inventing the rest. I was not trying to make him look bad, I actually have a lot of respect for what he has done even if he does make a fool of himself from time to time.
Take it easy with the conspiracy theories and try not to get too worked up on the internet, you will have a better time.
Haha I love most types of music including Death Metal/shred and stand up comedy. Everyone should be able to laugh at themselves. Like Yngwie is a complete snob "more is more". He's fair game. And jazz musos are snobs because of technicality. Flea grew up as a jazz snob (autobio) but then the rock/ funk "slapped" him. 😅 Everyone has a different subjective path. Most famous songs are 3 chords anyway. I might just learn left handed and go back to basics. It might help with jazz
@@joshforest304 sure, everyone has their opinions/beliefs. Keep the world free and open so Jens can make his jabs uh, I mean jokes and I can make my opinions about them known! You can chime in, too! It's great as long as we don't just start slinging mud (or poop) like monkeys. Rock on.
Wrong. What is a frequency if not the simplest kind of pattern? Then it’s patterns of frequencies that make up chords and melodies. And then it’s another pattern of those that make up a song, never mind all the more obvious rhythmic patterns involved. Without periodicity it’s just noise.