I'd just like to say that we knew the enemy before (Activision): now Bungie it's on its own and time will tell if they're the victim here or as guilty as Activision.
Bungie put forth the idea to monetize Eververse more because content was too hard to make on the schedule they originally agreed too. Destiny and Destiny 2 have both been rebooted 18 months before launch. Most of original Halo Bungie is gone and people should recognize that. I am in no way am Activision fan but I think more blame lies with Bungie than Activision regarding their recent shortcomings.
So now here's the real shit kicker: Now we will see if all the changes done to Destiny really were Activision's fault or Bungie's, *ESPECIALLY* with the Eververse
Nah, a majority of the problems came from Bungie leadership. Still, maybe now they can give everything some much-needed polish. I really wanna stop hating the game.
@@CrewComedy which is why this is a great opportunity to show they still care because if they don't then they're going to destroy any goodwill they have left. I imagine Fallout 76 levels of disaster if they aren't careful
@Christopher Simon Fill* the shop and, yes, it so happens quality content takes time and a publisher pushing ridiculous release dates is going to affect other content, especially microtransactions. YOU are the problem with gaming and a moron that can't anything that isn't so simple a child could understand it.
This is like hearing news about an abused child finally getting freed from their abusers - you’re not really sure if they’ll ever lead a normal life again and you really wish it’d have happened sooner but you’re still happy they got away and hope for the best for them.
Sai Charan B You are giving to much credit to Bungie. They had to be assholes to partner with Activision in the first place, which made many people leave Bungie. They should use a model like Warframe and have us pay for early access to new classes and vanity items, but make the content free2play. Or do the Warcraft model, but not this stupid cross over of the worst of all worlds.
Nah that a whole different situation bungie was contracted to Activision, while blizzard is literally owned by them blizzard will never be free of Activision I'm afraid not unless they relinquish most of their IPs.
@@StarlightFromAbyss It doesn't matter what it's called, it wasn't an acquisition , the relation between Activision and Blizzard is a partnership, if Blizzard is being negatively affected by Activision they should cut ties with them because if they stay Blizzard is toast.
Actually, the merger was between Activision and Vivendi (who owned Blizzard) and only the company name was changed to Activision Blizzard because, at the time, Sierra Entertainment was shut down and only Blizzard remained under Vivendi. Under the Activision Blizzard name, one unit is Blizzard Entertainment, who can totally pull off a Bungie imo
How the hell do you always manage to find the perfect clips to slap logos over!? Who do you have doing that? Is it like an unpayed under slept intern that does nothing else?
Lets just hope that now that they've got a bit of cash and are out of the corporate pressure from Activision (that they put themselves in mind you), they learn from their mistakes and take a their time to make Destiny something better.
They actually had a prenup, but because of fan sentimenyagainst them, keeping the franchise and releasing a Destiny game without Bungie would be suicide for their share price
From what i have heard it would be hard for Blizzard to leave as Activision has more money and Blizzard would lose alot of their own games like overwatch and the diablo franchise
@@CadoPogChamp Blizzard is under the same parent name of Activision Blizzard. Blizzard is no longer Independent, and I don't know if they ever were. I'm just being honest, so please don't shoot me.
@@elitehuntersden6562 so the company side that is Blizzard wouldnt be able to leave the partnership? If that is the case that sucks... Hahah nah mate honesty is good you really only see bad/negative replies from SJW/Journo's/NPC's/Trolls, which i am none of just another fellow gamer 👍👍
Thought about that, think that anybody that took a stand and did not purchase Forsaken despite it being a good product should still wait, in my opinion. The burden of proof is on them. Let's see what they can do.
I still find it hilarious that Bungie left Microsoft because they felt their creativity was being squandered yet they made another space shooter ... *With ACTIVISION*
@@bxnjo I don't know man, even back then people KNEW how bad Activision was considering how quickly they destroyed Guitar Hero and how frequently they were pumping out Call Of Duty. I remember people freaking out when they merged with Blizzard and look where we're at now
I was a day 1 Destiny 1 and 2 player. Dropped D2 in December 2017 when it was painfully obvious what was happening. I certainly didn't want it to be that way, playing Bungie games since 2002, but that was too much. If we find out that in fact this new Bungie actually tries to hit the reset button and go back to what made them a great studio a decade ago, I'll probably come back to Destiny. It remains to be seen just how much of the Destiny 2 shitshow was forced upon them by Activision, but I suspect most of it was, and upper management went along with it like a good Vassal Studio. If Bungie kills Tess Everis, I'll pay up by the end of the day.
Eververse was bungie. Activision didn't do anything development wise other than make the schedule. The reboot in destiny 1? That was a new higher up thinking he was hot shit and could make his story. The Original destiny 1 was written by the same guy that wrote the halo games, he works at Microsoft now. All the shitty patches and ignoring of community complaints was bungie. Former employees have gone as far as to say that bungie thinks their fans are dumb. The masterwork core issue just helps prove that
I too bought D1 and D2 on pre-order. I too bought the season pass. I too dropped D2 only two days after the first DLC. I'm NOT going to pre-order D3, but if it turns around enough I may decide to give it a try.
Fair enough...but D2 is really good right now, despite what people who haven't played since CoO think they know...many people still see the game as it was then without having experienced forsaken...the game is a 100x better now than launch
@@hallowjupiter6305 based on the forums, I don't blame bungie for thinking the majority of the community is dumb...many complaints on things that people who hardly play give...jotuun came out and the same day people are asking for it to be nerfed...it's kind of comical to read the forums once in a while honestly
Cody Rutherford why do you say that? if you take a minute to think about it without blocking logic with your anti-destiny/bungie bias then you can see that the yearly schedule imposed by Activision rushed Bungie to put out unfinished content (in some cases), Activision indirectly stated that it was them who was the cause of the monetization, and both destiny games were rebooted in development, which is especially weird when you consider that d2 was led by a hardcore gamer that used to play WoW, logically concluding that the reboots (at least for d2) most likely had something to do with Activision finding the game too inaccessible for the casual player.
I’m sure there will still be a “Destiny 3” but hopefully they call it something like “Destiny Universe” & they just keep adding expansions onto the franchise without keep releasing new games every few years.. Let’s WoW Destiny !
Dave Carsley I mean the game is essentially an mmo so like it kind of has to be designed as a service. The issue is between whether it becomes a content service or a monetization service
I'm happy that you guys are happy. For me it doesn't matter much. I never liked Bungie games. Now if only Blizzard could/would do the same. But even then... BUNGIE and Blizzard are probably both broken by now. I'm talking about having the right people working there with healthy visions. Blizzard is excited to make mobile games and Bungie will make games for China. It's all about the money, money, moneyyyy... I doubt that they will do a CD project red.
As a guy who has been a gamer for the better part of 40 years, some of my lifetime highs came from Destiny 1. I still remember coming home from work, only to get a text from my friends saying "where you at, Guardian?" I'd kiss my wife and kids, grab some leftovers, and then dive into the the Vault of Glass, a strike, or just screw around doing patrols or daily quests. In fact, my first time completing the Vault of Glass is easily in my top 10 gaming moments ever. I was more than pumped for Destiny 2, got it on day 1, and even took a day off from work to really dive in...but within a few weeks, we could all tell that the passion to play was gone, and by October 2017, most of my squad mates shut the game down, and haven't picked it up since. Besides that sense of nostalgia and camaraderie that I miss from time to time, nothing has really made me want to pick the game up since then, either. With this news, I am finally hopeful again. I probably won't pick Destiny up any time soon, but I will definitely start looking forward to whatever the first Activision-free Destiny announcements are. Here's hoping! I would love to join the fight against the darkness one more time.
@Jason Moore To be fair, Andromeda was done by a C team if I'm not mistaken. It certainly wasn't the team that made Mass Effects 1 and 2 and Dragon Age: Origins. I know Casey Hudson has returned to the fold but whether his direction will be enough is up for debate. I would like the old Bioware back, I don't think that's gonna happen though. Especially considering they announced the new DA was gonna focus on SJW nonsense instead of the literal god bent on destroying the world.
Actually this is much like when the innocent gaming development company called Activition broke off of the corrupt Atari after the suits took over Atari, ya they saw how Atari was just pumping out games most unfinished and they wanted to leave with their integrity, apparently thats what they call their door mat.
I’ve lost interest in the vast majority of ‘modern’ games for a number of reasons. Too expensive, micro transactions and multiplayer focused games. This announcement while good for bungie won’t change the overall trend within the games industry. Games like god of war showed that if you make a good game people buy it, and are chomping at the bit to get the next one. Games like destiny come round and people are grumpy because they know the grind is back. With a thinly veiled hope that it ‘might’ be better than before. I hope for all who like destiny that this improves your game for the future. But I won’t hold my breath.
yeah I fully agree. And the "might" comes with stop thinking Bungie/game companies are your friend and give a shit about you and stop being so easy. Play a little hard to get to. No one respects someone who have no standards, who they can manipulate. I have been playing a lot of older games / smaller games and have even thought about if I want to continue the hobby.
@@Maniacsurvivor Tbf, D1 and D2 have not been on a super good journey across the sea. Without activision, Bungie may not have a higher up pulling the string but that also means less funding for Bungie, in which in case you do not remember, Bungie has been making the decisions behind many of the game's development, the game's quality. I'm not being pessimistic on this subject nor am I being optimistic. There's more bad record than good throughout Destiny's history. I'll see good when there is good. So for now, I'm only waiting. I have no hopes nor expectations. If Bungie succeeds, good, if not, then tough.
Lol go look at a Kingdom Hearts trailer (1-29 I believe is release) and people are actually crying in the comments about how beautiful and how long it's been. You wont see that shit from destiny not anytime soon anyways. Granted the audience is also probably a bit different lol.
@@HibiscusOrchid The fact alone that they're not bound by contract to push out dlc and new games on a regular basis anymore, is a big plus in my book. Good development needs a lot of time.
Bungie. Please just stay independent. Don't just do what you did when parting from Microsoft and get in bed with some other stifling publisher. You are big enough to do what you want. You said when leaving Microsoft that's what you wanted. Now please stick to it!!
Agreed, I never understood why they went to Activison in the first place. I remember them saying they left Microsoft b/c they wanted creative freedom. Then they went to one of the worst companies. Good on them. The industry needs more independent studios like CDPR, digital extremes, & unknow worlds (they made subnautica) Many more great ones out their just some I could think of.
@@BoleDaPole Fine print, wording and various laws (and lack thereof) are great beginnings of a scam for developers. Hopefully, they have learned their lesson.
Both CFO's fleeing, CEO's fleeing, Bungie leaving, employees leaving Activision/Blizzard. Good times. I don't like Bungie but I definitely like the bad luck Activision is having. My hope is the people who made Blizzard will make a new company and learn from the past.
I've got a theory, Bungie made a bet with Activision about making "Forsaken" the way they want, and if it did well. Then they would get to split from them and even though Activision was trying to deny that it did pretty good (and rated better than any Activision-approved dlc), it was enough to allow them to split off from Activision. After all, something like this doesn't just happen overnight. I'm going to guess that any future DLC's that Bungie comes out for Destiny 2 will be MUCH better than any before, maybe even better than Forsaken! (I bet the puzzle for the forge was Activision's idea though.) I'm happy as anyone that Bungie has split off from Activision and if others in Activision's control see Bungie make a successful run after the split, it just might inspire other companies to do the same! (Looking at Blizzard, perhaps?)
Developing and publishing by your self means the only person that can hold them back is themselves. Bungie changed when they left Microsoft, Many left to other studios like 343, rockstar ext..Many stayed and made destiny, Bungie now make their own path. The ball is in their court to see how they will monetize. I hope they end up changing the gaming landscape as they did when they first created halo. Good luck bungie.
J Robinson anyone who think Bungie is the devil and become frothing maniacs at the mere suggestion that Activision had anything to do with Destiny’s woes because everything wrong with the franchise MUST be laid at the feet of Bungie.
This sounds like way too much hope. What will happen if bungie stays borked ? I don’t think this will end up the way you think it will. It just means they will have no one to blame but themselves down the road. Time will tell.
I don’t care wat anyone says destiny 1 was some of the most fun I’ve ever had and I made sooo many friends and memories and while d2 was horrible, ever since forsaken me and my friends have been heavily enjoying ourselves
Blizzard should buy themselves out of Activision and form Bungieblizzard entertainment with Bungie and just start throwing out great games while Activision COD sales are plummeting. I wouldn’t care what Bungieblizzard makes, I’ll buy it. That would restore my faith in humanity.
It annoys me how so many people forgot that bungie was just as much, if not more, responsible for the shitty decisions with Destiny as Activision was. Activision only had an expectation for content drops and considering the size of bungie it shouldn't have been unreasonable. Bungie has so much work to do with their toolset because they at a rumored 1000 strong, can't produce content at the same rate as a studio a quarter of their size. I hope bungie can now, with no strict content release schedule, take a step back and address the major shortcomings of their in house engine and content creation tools. Only once those issues are remedied, can bungie truly go back to being a great developer.
Activision didn't, not make sandbox changes and half baked, incomplete DLC, Bungie did that. I am not giving Bungie any more money until they show me something that wows me and the Season Pass, and locking out the paying season pass holders from paid content behind a puzzle isn't wowing me.....
Bungie has always had trouble getting projects done in given time. It's pure miracle of how good games Halo trilogy was. They had to cut content a lot and do compromises to meet the deadline.
Dude fucking thank you like I'm pretty fucking sure these dudes covered the story of bungie asking Activision executives if they could abuse the in game store lol
I'd like to remind you guys that all of the changes made to Destiny 2 that ruined the game were mostly, if not entirely, on Bungie. Perhaps it was the Activision culture seeping in, but that doesn't change the fact that Bungie pulled the trigger on it and ran off an enormous portion of Destiny's playerbase, myself included. I hope they make better decisions in the future, but as for Destiny; that franchise is dead to me. It hurts a lot to be fleeced out of $100 and I won't go back to let them do it again.
@@Korakan8 people are easily appeased. It's what these companies count on. Guys like Stirling and Yong have been doing a lot to combat it, but the laymen don't always help matters; what with the hype and all. Still love you guys Gaymon!!
First thing that bungie has to do is throw the fucking engine out and burn it with napalm. With activision they always had the stress of deadlines and could never fix destinys biggest issue. How anyone is still willing to work on a life support game with an engine that is hold together with glue and tape blows my mind. Edit: “life service“ but given all the leaked storys about the engine “life support“ seems to be a better way to describe the whole situation around the problems that come from the engine
Yeah, everyone is so fast to blame Activision but its Bungie who is the captain of the ship. Bungie going off on its own may or may not be a bad thing. Also, as the brothers said, Bungie is happy with the game. If that is true, then Bungie has some serious issues at corporate. When you have people like Luke Smith and Deej making outlandish comments "Throw money at the screen" and "Awesome loot!" which equaled two blues and a token, you can't blame Activision, that was all Bungie.
100% correct. However many would say the compromises they made that fucked us were in response to pressure from Activision with the annualized schedule.
Lots of skepticism in these comments but I feel like that's because none of them actually remember what bungie was like before activision and are naturally cynical of the gaming industry. To that I say calm down and have faith, bungie was THE OG best studio, beyond Insomniac and naughty dog even in their best days. They literally were the sole reason the OG Xbox was successful.
Bro they were successful because of halo right? Guess what happened nine years ago the writer and music composer left or were fired from bungie and now work 343 on halo. Bungie is not as it once was take off your nostalgia glasses and realize this. They started losing all previous reputation from the second the first destiny was released from what it was supposed to be to what we got.
Here's the thing, this is exciting news, but it's way to early to tell how this is going to turn out. As an independent developer, I would hope and would think Bungie could fix things, but we just don't know. What will happen to Destiny? Will it be fixed? And what does "fixing" it entail, other than getting rid of/massively changing the Eververse entail? For me, Destiny died because I'm bad and it constantly made me feel bad. I was forcing myself to play Destiny every day so I would get better, and I never got better, and I was getting depressed, and playing it was becoming a chore, so I decided to say, fine, I'll just play when there are story updates. So I purchased Forsaken (through the year pass thing), and the story was alright, I mourned Cayde-6 but thought killing him was a good idea for the story, I just also think the story wasn't precisely told well. Either way, when I learned that further updates wouldn't have story, it just kinda shut down any willingness I had to turn the game on when future updates come out, because the grind just isn't enough anymore considering the grind always comes with an incredible amount of internal frustration at the fact that I'm literally the most useless piece of shit on the planet. I've got the finger dexterity of a block of cement and the thought processing speed of a potato chip. I'm not at all blaming Bungie for that, that's just my lot in life, but all the same that is MY personal feelings on why Destiny died for me. Raids are fun....when you are in a group that works well, is led by people who know what is going on, and ISN'T shitting on you for making mistakes. But that's also not Bungie, that's just how some players are just rude as fuck, but also I understand their frustration, because I am really fucking retarded for some reason. To me it was never about Eververse. I know the gaming community has a bone to pick with "micro"transactions and such (however the hell 10 or 20 dollars can be called a microtransaction is beyond me), but I don't think those are particularly "bad". I don't like it when things are forced behind the paywall, but if people are willing to pay money for aesthetics or things that enhance their feel for the game, they should be allowed to. I just don't like loot boxes, at all, ever. In app purchases/microtransactions are fine, as long as there is choice involved, and not some garbage shoot tier randomization system that forces you to waste your money until you feel like you "have to keep going now since you already started" until you get the item you wanted. I've fallen down that rabbit hole before and it sucks. So, no loot boxes, hopefully if Eververse is changed we won't have any more loot box bullshittery, and if it does have loot boxes, then it shouldn't be purchaseable with any kind of currency that can be in any way obtainable with real life money. Make loot box purchases based purely on in game currency and that's a bit better, as long as drop percents aren't shit tier to enforce inhumanly long grind times (as long as items aren't temporary, and items aren't found both in that AND the money shop then nobody should complain that the company is just forcing people to want to spend money). Idk, I think there are ways to go about these things just fine, we just need people who aren't desperate to make quick money off of inflated prices of virtual nothingness and loot box gambling addictions. You can crucify me for this, I already know the fact that I don't think IAPs/MTXs are the devil kind of differentiates me from a lot of the people I've seen comment on this type of things over the last year or two. Anyway, news is good, I'm hoping for good things, but I doubt Destiny can be "fixed" for me, nor would I want it to be. I'm just one retarded person, and not everyone can be pleased, so despite how much I wanted to like Destiny, and despite how I fucking purchase all the Destiny merch I see when I go to Game Stop (why, why do I DO THIS!?), I'm fine accepting that I'm just part of the crowd that can't be pleased. I'm just not good enough at video games to enjoy them, so I'll stick with JRPGs where no skill whatsoever is involved and I can get all the story I want.
Well the Blizzard thing may be an actuality. If the merger included stipulations that say if Activision does certain things in the partnership that poorly reflect on the entity as a whole, they could break away pretty clearly cut. Never seen the contract and have no idea how deep the Activision tendrils have sunk, but it is possible. I am hoping for it. They are literally killing Blizzard slowly just to gobble up IP into their greedy catalog it seems.
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"Disgusting male gamers celebrate the split of a profitable pairing"
- Kotaku
Yeah Gayson Schreier is going to have a field day with this one
Genius
You should work for Kotaku bro
@@babyjiren9676 he literally said it's good news for gamers lol
Male Toxicity be ashamed
The fact that you can shit out memes and a video this fast is brilliant lol
They are in bed with all the scummy companies, like Activision so they probably had prior warning.
@@frozenfury0 I thought they were gay
Meme literacy is the most valuable skill.
def impressive
Are all the memes originals or are they taking them from somewhere / fans sending them?
*And activisions paying the child support fees.*
I'd just like to say that we knew the enemy before (Activision): now Bungie it's on its own and time will tell if they're the victim here or as guilty as Activision.
Agreed
Bungie put forth the idea to monetize Eververse more because content was too hard to make on the schedule they originally agreed too. Destiny and Destiny 2 have both been rebooted 18 months before launch. Most of original Halo Bungie is gone and people should recognize that. I am in no way am Activision fan but I think more blame lies with Bungie than Activision regarding their recent shortcomings.
There is the issue at hand..... lets see if Bungie does good or bad. Like @TheHammer said Bungie isnt the same company now as it was.
People need to calm down; at least until we see what Bungie's true face is.
And they have to somehow keep this game profitable, are we really certain that they don't have the same investors making the same demands?
That Wolf of Wall Street bit actually killed me! 🤣
Forrest gump clip was too perfect too
I need to save it!
Rest In Peace
That diablo 3 cayde-6 meme was beautiful
beautiful? that was fucking brutal...I love it
Best thing I've ever seen on the internet.
Best meme by Gaymen so far
Lmao
BEST - PART - EVER!!!
So now here's the real shit kicker: Now we will see if all the changes done to Destiny really were Activision's fault or Bungie's, *ESPECIALLY* with the Eververse
Nah, a majority of the problems came from Bungie leadership. Still, maybe now they can give everything some much-needed polish. I really wanna stop hating the game.
@@CrewComedy me too,man...me too
@Christopher Simon Heh that gave me a good chuckle.
@@CrewComedy which is why this is a great opportunity to show they still care because if they don't then they're going to destroy any goodwill they have left. I imagine Fallout 76 levels of disaster if they aren't careful
@Christopher Simon Fill* the shop and, yes, it so happens quality content takes time and a publisher pushing ridiculous release dates is going to affect other content, especially microtransactions. YOU are the problem with gaming and a moron that can't anything that isn't so simple a child could understand it.
Only one of two things can happen now.... Bungie becomes the next CD projekt red...or it wasn't Activision the whole time and were screwed.
It wasnt Activision the whole time..
Activision left because bungie is committing sepuku
But isn't CD Projekt Red the next CD Projekt Red?
The current or previous if a new one comes.
T.J. Hunter
It wasn’t Activision
Bungie has been assholes since before
Marty O’Donnell
13:34 greatest cut away I have ever seen on this channel 😂😂
I was going to mention that. I can't stop laughing and suddenly Uldren seems a pretty descent guy.
I died...
YES
Omg yes. I loved that.
13:37
"Who is it? Is it Yong"
ROFL
YongYea is the best isn't He?!?!? XD
That line was priceless 😂😂
This is like hearing news about an abused child finally getting freed from their abusers - you’re not really sure if they’ll ever lead a normal life again and you really wish it’d have happened sooner but you’re still happy they got away and hope for the best for them.
That's dark brother
Perfect analogy.
:O
Damn, that's perfect
Sai Charan B You are giving to much credit to Bungie. They had to be assholes to partner with Activision in the first place, which made many people leave Bungie. They should use a model like Warframe and have us pay for early access to new classes and vanity items, but make the content free2play. Or do the Warcraft model, but not this stupid cross over of the worst of all worlds.
Next up: BLIZZARD! Go go go!
Nah that a whole different situation bungie was contracted to Activision, while blizzard is literally owned by them blizzard will never be free of Activision I'm afraid not unless they relinquish most of their IPs.
Hopefully they follow lead, everyone is jumping off Activision's sinking ship.
Not happening. Bungie ran off because company isn't called "ActivisionBungie".
@@StarlightFromAbyss It doesn't matter what it's called, it wasn't an acquisition , the relation between Activision and Blizzard is a partnership, if Blizzard is being negatively affected by Activision they should cut ties with them because if they stay Blizzard is toast.
Actually, the merger was between Activision and Vivendi (who owned Blizzard) and only the company name was changed to Activision Blizzard because, at the time, Sierra Entertainment was shut down and only Blizzard remained under Vivendi. Under the Activision Blizzard name, one unit is Blizzard Entertainment, who can totally pull off a Bungie imo
If only Cayde was still here to see this
:'(
Cayde was the only good character. I wish they made him into a playable character
R.I.P ✊
90% sure they killed him of because of the voiceactor.
T_T
Happy for the Destiny fans, but just don't let your guard down, you never know what may happen when your backs are turned.
Yep, it's going to take a monumental effort on the part of bungie to when my trust back.
Yeah I'll wait till their next new ip and reviews for it before I possibly buy it
Michael R I will do the same but at least things are looking up!
Who gonna invest in Destiny future when its developer get dumped and there is new player aka Anthem backed by EA?
@@antonywhatever572 you have a point there, but I doubt that they would leave if they don't have a plan.
This is where we find out all the anti consumer stuff was all Bungie, all along.
The percentage of that being the case is higher than what most people would want to consider.
Considering Activision's history and reputation vs Bungie's I highly doubt that. But only time will tell.
And we discover that Activision was the one trying to be consumer friendly all along, and now destiny is doomed. #StayActivision *Sad emoji*
Nah. I'd say it was both. Bungie with the idea, Activision with the pricing
@@TheLynx30 Don’t forget, Luke Smith, not Activision, was the one that came out and said we’d throw money at the screen.
Is it yong? Hahaha
God damn your guy’s excitement is seriously infectious holy crap XD
Infectious enough to make you excited for merch?
Cool 🙂 OH WAIT! I’M EXCITED TOO!! 😱🤩
4833 4833 yes but the issue is I have no money 😭
Konami and Bungie next week announce DESTINY SURVIVAL.
Bungie and NetEase announce DESTINY IMMORTAL.
How the hell do you always manage to find the perfect clips to slap logos over!? Who do you have doing that? Is it like an unpayed under slept intern that does nothing else?
Monkee Supremacee this needs to be answered
"Somebody answer me, god dammit!" John McClane, Die Hard (1988)
"It's the question that drives us Neo. It's the question that brought you here." The Matrix (1999)
Monkee Supremacee They must be Memecromancers of Kek.
This will forever be my favorite Lamon Gamon video ever. I came here to rewatch it
Now BioWare needs to leave EA
EA buys out companies.....and kills them later....
God please
Oh god I literally spit out my drink at the Cayde Diablo Immortal meme. Fantastic.
Bungie is still the studio who said "making content is hard, we would rather not"
Don't forget the Luke Smith "Throw money at the screen".
Bungie needs to go back to Microsoft supervision...
Lets just hope that now that they've got a bit of cash and are out of the corporate pressure from Activision (that they put themselves in mind you), they learn from their mistakes and take a their time to make Destiny something better.
Please upvote though.
So many people jumping on the band wagon like bungie hasn't came out and said some dumb shit themselves.
Exactly. Bungie are the scumbags. Not just Activision.
Let's give Activision kudos for letting them go. EA would have buried Bungie in the crawlspace under their office with the other bodies.
CDPR is worth 2 Billion and have only made 3 games lol and they have 550 employees.
*4 games
When Activision didn’t get a prenup
Don't worry Activision got their pound of flesh at the expense of the fans.
They actually had a prenup, but because of fan sentimenyagainst them, keeping the franchise and releasing a Destiny game without Bungie would be suicide for their share price
Nice! The dream is Blizzard does the same.
It is harder to get a Diablo 4 than an Destiny 2 without more dlc's.
If Blizzard does too then it's official, we've all died and gone to heaven
From what i have heard it would be hard for Blizzard to leave as Activision has more money and Blizzard would lose alot of their own games like overwatch and the diablo franchise
@@CadoPogChamp Blizzard is under the same parent name of Activision Blizzard. Blizzard is no longer Independent, and I don't know if they ever were. I'm just being honest, so please don't shoot me.
@@elitehuntersden6562 so the company side that is Blizzard wouldnt be able to leave the partnership? If that is the case that sucks...
Hahah nah mate honesty is good you really only see bad/negative replies from SJW/Journo's/NPC's/Trolls, which i am none of just another fellow gamer 👍👍
I'm actually considering going back and re-downloading destiny.
hell nah, but ill consider future Bungie titles.
Not me
But making content is to hard for bungie~~
I'd prob wait for Bungie's next IP. Wouldn't Activision get the money if you buy Destiny 2 right now?
Thought about that, think that anybody that took a stand and did not purchase Forsaken despite it being a good product should still wait, in my opinion. The burden of proof is on them. Let's see what they can do.
The difference is Bungie was in a partnership and Blizzard was acquired and isn’t going anywhere...but down the sterile mobile money hole.
I smell a Bungie Gamelauncher...
BTW, i just realised what happens when you Swap L and G in Laymen Gaming...
Ladies and gentlemen, we got 'em!
I still find it hilarious that Bungie left Microsoft because they felt their creativity was being squandered yet they made another space shooter ... *With ACTIVISION*
Lol
Well in 2010 Activision was a very different company and at the time it definitely was a good move to get destiny off the ground
@@bxnjo I don't know man, even back then people KNEW how bad Activision was considering how quickly they destroyed Guitar Hero and how frequently they were pumping out Call Of Duty. I remember people freaking out when they merged with Blizzard and look where we're at now
I hope Bungie ends up like CDPR. Focused on quality projects with a lot of respect from players. Only time will tell.
I hope Bungie and CDPR joins forces
I was a day 1 Destiny 1 and 2 player. Dropped D2 in December 2017 when it was painfully obvious what was happening. I certainly didn't want it to be that way, playing Bungie games since 2002, but that was too much. If we find out that in fact this new Bungie actually tries to hit the reset button and go back to what made them a great studio a decade ago, I'll probably come back to Destiny. It remains to be seen just how much of the Destiny 2 shitshow was forced upon them by Activision, but I suspect most of it was, and upper management went along with it like a good Vassal Studio.
If Bungie kills Tess Everis, I'll pay up by the end of the day.
Eververse was bungie. Activision didn't do anything development wise other than make the schedule. The reboot in destiny 1? That was a new higher up thinking he was hot shit and could make his story. The Original destiny 1 was written by the same guy that wrote the halo games, he works at Microsoft now. All the shitty patches and ignoring of community complaints was bungie. Former employees have gone as far as to say that bungie thinks their fans are dumb. The masterwork core issue just helps prove that
I too bought D1 and D2 on pre-order. I too bought the season pass. I too dropped D2 only two days after the first DLC. I'm NOT going to pre-order D3, but if it turns around enough I may decide to give it a try.
Fair enough...but D2 is really good right now, despite what people who haven't played since CoO think they know...many people still see the game as it was then without having experienced forsaken...the game is a 100x better now than launch
@@hallowjupiter6305 based on the forums, I don't blame bungie for thinking the majority of the community is dumb...many complaints on things that people who hardly play give...jotuun came out and the same day people are asking for it to be nerfed...it's kind of comical to read the forums once in a while honestly
Now hopefully blizzard pulls out of activition.
Even though I’ve seen dozens of videos of this, I still came here for the memes
Laymen come back in 2019, and Bungie leaves Activision. Coincidence?
Half life 3 confirmed!!!!
Murdurface14 I think not!
I know this isn't a guarantee that Destiny's future will be good but I AM JUST SOO HAPPY RIGHT NOW!!
Again, most of the things you dislike from destiny and destiny 2 derives from Bungie decisions. Not Activision.
Halo>destiny they wont ever do that again.
Cody Rutherford Come on man, true or not let people enjoy the moment yeah?
Cody Rutherford why do you say that? if you take a minute to think about it without blocking logic with your anti-destiny/bungie bias then you can see that the yearly schedule imposed by Activision rushed Bungie to put out unfinished content (in some cases), Activision indirectly stated that it was them who was the cause of the monetization, and both destiny games were rebooted in development, which is especially weird when you consider that d2 was led by a hardcore gamer that used to play WoW, logically concluding that the reboots (at least for d2) most likely had something to do with Activision finding the game too inaccessible for the casual player.
modadalan thank you, you’re spot on
Man, Ralph is not letting that Red Dot Sight go is he? Lmao, mentioned in every video.
Sounds like they just changed beds.
I was hoping you would use that starwars meme
Ryan Korondy its over Activision, i have the high ground now!
The intros are border line genius.
I don't play the game but, YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
You guys won the internet at 13:37. Best meme ever.
I’m sure there will still be a “Destiny 3” but hopefully they call it something like “Destiny Universe” & they just keep adding expansions onto the franchise without keep releasing new games every few years.. Let’s WoW Destiny !
SparkyMTB Destiny immortal
Yeah... Because we all love games as a service
Dave Carsley I mean the game is essentially an mmo so like it kind of has to be designed as a service. The issue is between whether it becomes a content service or a monetization service
How about Destiny Forever
Free to play to compete with Warframe. I'd play that.
I hope blizzard will be the next to split from them.
Mom and Dad are getting a divorce and this means we get double Christmas presents!
We'll win this war if Blizzard gets the same treatment. An impossible win indeed but never say never.
Activision already consumed it... sorry
It's dead Jim.
You cracked me up and I only got to read the header of the video.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN...
We got 'em.
CUE THE CRAB RAVE MEMES!
ACTIVISION
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IS GONE
As an American citizen I approve of your Dubaya impersonation
I'm happy that you guys are happy. For me it doesn't matter much. I never liked Bungie games.
Now if only Blizzard could/would do the same.
But even then... BUNGIE and Blizzard are probably both broken by now. I'm talking about having the right people working there with healthy visions. Blizzard is excited to make mobile games and Bungie will make games for China. It's all about the money, money, moneyyyy... I doubt that they will do a CD project red.
Yeah agreed.
Don't even compare them, Blizzard is too corrupted to be saves and on the other hand Bungie is not.
@@pracitus Lol, you're an optimistic one.
The alliance has been broken. Proves that with the power of memes, truly anything is possible
"Is it Yong?"
"Shut up, its Activision"
Lmfao I'm dead af 💀💀
As a guy who has been a gamer for the better part of 40 years, some of my lifetime highs came from Destiny 1. I still remember coming home from work, only to get a text from my friends saying "where you at, Guardian?" I'd kiss my wife and kids, grab some leftovers, and then dive into the the Vault of Glass, a strike, or just screw around doing patrols or daily quests. In fact, my first time completing the Vault of Glass is easily in my top 10 gaming moments ever. I was more than pumped for Destiny 2, got it on day 1, and even took a day off from work to really dive in...but within a few weeks, we could all tell that the passion to play was gone, and by October 2017, most of my squad mates shut the game down, and haven't picked it up since. Besides that sense of nostalgia and camaraderie that I miss from time to time, nothing has really made me want to pick the game up since then, either. With this news, I am finally hopeful again. I probably won't pick Destiny up any time soon, but I will definitely start looking forward to whatever the first Activision-free Destiny announcements are. Here's hoping! I would love to join the fight against the darkness one more time.
Can you guys please predict Bioware splitting up with EA now?
Maybe another good developer buying them out then? like CDprojectred? Ah, who am i kidding...but one can dream right?@withouthinkin9
@@MrLiveforlove not gonna happen, its part of the hivemind called EA
Yeah, they'll probably split up..... As soon as EA closes them.
After ANTHEM's release... in a bodybag.
@Jason Moore To be fair, Andromeda was done by a C team if I'm not mistaken. It certainly wasn't the team that made Mass Effects 1 and 2 and Dragon Age: Origins. I know Casey Hudson has returned to the fold but whether his direction will be enough is up for debate.
I would like the old Bioware back, I don't think that's gonna happen though. Especially considering they announced the new DA was gonna focus on SJW nonsense instead of the literal god bent on destroying the world.
Actually this is much like when the innocent gaming development company called Activition broke off of the corrupt Atari after the suits took over Atari, ya they saw how Atari was just pumping out games most unfinished and they wanted to leave with their integrity, apparently thats what they call their door mat.
Steven Dawson sounds like “you die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain.”
Oh god...WHAT WILL THE LAYMEN DO NOW?! OH GOD! NO MORE CONTENT!
I read about this at 4 today, and immediately wondered when we'd get to hear you boys break it down.
Mission accomplished.... love it
I’ve lost interest in the vast majority of ‘modern’ games for a number of reasons. Too expensive, micro transactions and multiplayer focused games. This announcement while good for bungie won’t change the overall trend within the games industry. Games like god of war showed that if you make a good game people buy it, and are chomping at the bit to get the next one. Games like destiny come round and people are grumpy because they know the grind is back. With a thinly veiled hope that it ‘might’ be better than before. I hope for all who like destiny that this improves your game for the future. But I won’t hold my breath.
yeah I fully agree. And the "might" comes with stop thinking Bungie/game companies are your friend and give a shit about you and stop being so easy. Play a little hard to get to. No one respects someone who have no standards, who they can manipulate. I have been playing a lot of older games / smaller games and have even thought about if I want to continue the hobby.
You're the glass half empty kind of guy ehhh? 😄
@@Maniacsurvivor
Tbf, D1 and D2 have not been on a super good journey across the sea.
Without activision, Bungie may not have a higher up pulling the string but that also means less funding for Bungie, in which in case you do not remember, Bungie has been making the decisions behind many of the game's development, the game's quality.
I'm not being pessimistic on this subject nor am I being optimistic. There's more bad record than good throughout Destiny's history. I'll see good when there is good.
So for now, I'm only waiting. I have no hopes nor expectations. If Bungie succeeds, good, if not, then tough.
Lol go look at a Kingdom Hearts trailer (1-29 I believe is release) and people are actually crying in the comments about how beautiful and how long it's been. You wont see that shit from destiny not anytime soon anyways. Granted the audience is also probably a bit different lol.
@@HibiscusOrchid The fact alone that they're not bound by contract to push out dlc and new games on a regular basis anymore, is a big plus in my book. Good development needs a lot of time.
I'm glad Bungie survived having cancer.
Now BlIzzard have to liberate themeselfs!
Holy shit, is this... is this what happiness feels like? I’d forgotten how good it feels.
That "Going-To-Mobile-Last-Words-Meme" had me legt laughing out loud. wel done !!
This might be the beginning of something great
David Pérez
Or...
Greatn't
@@romdog1818 you had to ruin it huh? Negativity much?
Bungie. Please just stay independent. Don't just do what you did when parting from Microsoft and get in bed with some other stifling publisher. You are big enough to do what you want. You said when leaving Microsoft that's what you wanted. Now please stick to it!!
Agreed, I never understood why they went to Activison in the first place. I remember them saying they left Microsoft b/c they wanted creative freedom. Then they went to one of the worst companies. Good on them. The industry needs more independent studios like CDPR, digital extremes, & unknow worlds (they made subnautica) Many more great ones out their just some I could think of.
Idk man.. I'm sure that EA is typing up an enticing offer as we speak.
@@BoleDaPole Fine print, wording and various laws (and lack thereof) are great beginnings of a scam for developers. Hopefully, they have learned their lesson.
I know right? I would have thought that they knew better than to trust triple A companies
Both CFO's fleeing, CEO's fleeing, Bungie leaving, employees leaving Activision/Blizzard. Good times. I don't like Bungie but I definitely like the bad luck Activision is having. My hope is the people who made Blizzard will make a new company and learn from the past.
youre a bitter guy huh?
You know that's what happened with Activision way back when they were created right?
I've got a theory, Bungie made a bet with Activision about making "Forsaken" the way they want, and if it did well. Then they would get to split from them and even though Activision was trying to deny that it did pretty good (and rated better than any Activision-approved dlc), it was enough to allow them to split off from Activision. After all, something like this doesn't just happen overnight. I'm going to guess that any future DLC's that Bungie comes out for Destiny 2 will be MUCH better than any before, maybe even better than Forsaken! (I bet the puzzle for the forge was Activision's idea though.) I'm happy as anyone that Bungie has split off from Activision and if others in Activision's control see Bungie make a successful run after the split, it just might inspire other companies to do the same! (Looking at Blizzard, perhaps?)
You can tell how pumped the guys are by the sheer volume of memery going on in this video. Love it.
Developing and publishing by your self means the only person that can hold them back is themselves. Bungie changed when they left Microsoft, Many left to other studios like 343, rockstar ext..Many stayed and made destiny, Bungie now make their own path. The ball is in their court to see how they will monetize. I hope they end up changing the gaming landscape as they did when they first created halo. Good luck bungie.
The one dislike is Activision.
Yeah right who tf is disliking this video?
J Robinson anyone who think Bungie is the devil and become frothing maniacs at the mere suggestion that Activision had anything to do with Destiny’s woes because everything wrong with the franchise MUST be laid at the feet of Bungie.
@@darthsonic4135 Do those people actually exist? Gods save them from their own cognitive dissonance...
J Robinson Dude they’re in the comments making a mess right now!
*Puts Bungie and Halo into a room*
Make up for lost times NOW!
Good luck to bungie.
Halo is part of Microsoft, so nope
XD :)
Halo Bungie is long gone sorry to say
Even though I knew that joke was coming, I still laughed at "Any last words?"
Lmao back in 2019 we looked at this with such optimism
Love your guys show. Anything bad for Activision is good for gaming. Props on SU as well. Have a great day!
Dice please, it's your turn
I always love myself a good prequel meme. Well done.
This was a very well said, well researched video for a channel that doesnt normally focus on this game. Kudos, boys
That Cayde Mobile 6 Clip made me cry while laughing! WELL FUCKING DONE!
Damnit it's 11pm and I gotta get up early tomorrow, but this comes first
Laymen uploading at 2:31am for me. Gonna have some Lemon Gaymen dreams tonight bois.
Hopefully the community's reaction will affirm Bungie's choice.
"Activision merger was so successful, that we want to end it now."
Lol corporate nicey nice talk
This sounds like way too much hope. What will happen if bungie stays borked ? I don’t think this will end up the way you think it will. It just means they will have no one to blame but themselves down the road. Time will tell.
I don’t care wat anyone says destiny 1 was some of the most fun I’ve ever had and I made sooo many friends and memories and while d2 was horrible, ever since forsaken me and my friends have been heavily enjoying ourselves
Blizzard should buy themselves out of Activision and form Bungieblizzard entertainment with Bungie and just start throwing out great games while Activision COD sales are plummeting. I wouldn’t care what Bungieblizzard makes, I’ll buy it. That would restore my faith in humanity.
Destiny immortal for mobile.......................
Well Blizzard would have to buy themselves out from Activision Blizzard. Activision and Blizzards parent company. And that won’t be happening
It annoys me how so many people forgot that bungie was just as much, if not more, responsible for the shitty decisions with Destiny as Activision was. Activision only had an expectation for content drops and considering the size of bungie it shouldn't have been unreasonable. Bungie has so much work to do with their toolset because they at a rumored 1000 strong, can't produce content at the same rate as a studio a quarter of their size. I hope bungie can now, with no strict content release schedule, take a step back and address the major shortcomings of their in house engine and content creation tools. Only once those issues are remedied, can bungie truly go back to being a great developer.
Yes but Bungie was probably pressured to make these bad decisions
Ptolemaic Thought well said
Activision didn't, not make sandbox changes and half baked, incomplete DLC, Bungie did that. I am not giving Bungie any more money until they show me something that wows me and the Season Pass, and locking out the paying season pass holders from paid content behind a puzzle isn't wowing me.....
Bungie has always had trouble getting projects done in given time. It's pure miracle of how good games Halo trilogy was. They had to cut content a lot and do compromises to meet the deadline.
Dude fucking thank you like I'm pretty fucking sure these dudes covered the story of bungie asking Activision executives if they could abuse the in game store lol
*Blizzard stares solemnly out of the attic shutters as Activision sees Bungie out of the front door.*
Kept waiting for some Tom Petty "Now I'm freeeeeee!".....y'all missed a good one, fellas
Free bird as well!
Come on Blizzard you can do it
they can't they are literally property of activision, they bought them and all their games
I'd like to remind you guys that all of the changes made to Destiny 2 that ruined the game were mostly, if not entirely, on Bungie. Perhaps it was the Activision culture seeping in, but that doesn't change the fact that Bungie pulled the trigger on it and ran off an enormous portion of Destiny's playerbase, myself included.
I hope they make better decisions in the future, but as for Destiny; that franchise is dead to me. It hurts a lot to be fleeced out of $100 and I won't go back to let them do it again.
100 % agree, always dissapointed when people are so short sighted.
@@Korakan8 people are easily appeased. It's what these companies count on. Guys like Stirling and Yong have been doing a lot to combat it, but the laymen don't always help matters; what with the hype and all.
Still love you guys Gaymon!!
First thing that bungie has to do is throw the fucking engine out and burn it with napalm. With activision they always had the stress of deadlines and could never fix destinys biggest issue. How anyone is still willing to work on a life support game with an engine that is hold together with glue and tape blows my mind.
Edit: “life service“ but given all the leaked storys about the engine “life support“ seems to be a better way to describe the whole situation around the problems that come from the engine
Yeah, everyone is so fast to blame Activision but its Bungie who is the captain of the ship. Bungie going off on its own may or may not be a bad thing. Also, as the brothers said, Bungie is happy with the game. If that is true, then Bungie has some serious issues at corporate. When you have people like Luke Smith and Deej making outlandish comments "Throw money at the screen" and "Awesome loot!" which equaled two blues and a token, you can't blame Activision, that was all Bungie.
100% correct. However many would say the compromises they made that fucked us were in response to pressure from Activision with the annualized schedule.
next i hope is blizzard's turn to exit the dumpster fire which is Activision. I'll buy the next bungie game just to support their move. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
"Unsuscribe fro skillup" hahaha that was excelent! I laughed my ass off
10 Aussie bucks they sign a 10 year contract with EA.
Lots of skepticism in these comments but I feel like that's because none of them actually remember what bungie was like before activision and are naturally cynical of the gaming industry. To that I say calm down and have faith, bungie was THE OG best studio, beyond Insomniac and naughty dog even in their best days. They literally were the sole reason the OG Xbox was successful.
Bro they were successful because of halo right? Guess what happened nine years ago the writer and music composer left or were fired from bungie and now work 343 on halo. Bungie is not as it once was take off your nostalgia glasses and realize this. They started losing all previous reputation from the second the first destiny was released from what it was supposed to be to what we got.
Yes the divorce is final.No child support but wait got to get the DNA results first.DOH!
Activision... you... are... NOT THE FATHER!!!
watch activision/blizzard pull destiny from battle.net and lock everyone out of their progression lol.
@@jedimastertitaniumdickmana2939 you're
No, Blizzard confirmed that D2 will still be on Battle.net.
@@jedimastertitaniumdickmana2939 *Nazi
Could this mean destiny could release on steam now ?
@@jedimastertitaniumdickmana2939 weird flex but ok
Here's the thing, this is exciting news, but it's way to early to tell how this is going to turn out. As an independent developer, I would hope and would think Bungie could fix things, but we just don't know. What will happen to Destiny? Will it be fixed? And what does "fixing" it entail, other than getting rid of/massively changing the Eververse entail? For me, Destiny died because I'm bad and it constantly made me feel bad. I was forcing myself to play Destiny every day so I would get better, and I never got better, and I was getting depressed, and playing it was becoming a chore, so I decided to say, fine, I'll just play when there are story updates. So I purchased Forsaken (through the year pass thing), and the story was alright, I mourned Cayde-6 but thought killing him was a good idea for the story, I just also think the story wasn't precisely told well. Either way, when I learned that further updates wouldn't have story, it just kinda shut down any willingness I had to turn the game on when future updates come out, because the grind just isn't enough anymore considering the grind always comes with an incredible amount of internal frustration at the fact that I'm literally the most useless piece of shit on the planet. I've got the finger dexterity of a block of cement and the thought processing speed of a potato chip.
I'm not at all blaming Bungie for that, that's just my lot in life, but all the same that is MY personal feelings on why Destiny died for me. Raids are fun....when you are in a group that works well, is led by people who know what is going on, and ISN'T shitting on you for making mistakes. But that's also not Bungie, that's just how some players are just rude as fuck, but also I understand their frustration, because I am really fucking retarded for some reason.
To me it was never about Eververse. I know the gaming community has a bone to pick with "micro"transactions and such (however the hell 10 or 20 dollars can be called a microtransaction is beyond me), but I don't think those are particularly "bad". I don't like it when things are forced behind the paywall, but if people are willing to pay money for aesthetics or things that enhance their feel for the game, they should be allowed to. I just don't like loot boxes, at all, ever. In app purchases/microtransactions are fine, as long as there is choice involved, and not some garbage shoot tier randomization system that forces you to waste your money until you feel like you "have to keep going now since you already started" until you get the item you wanted. I've fallen down that rabbit hole before and it sucks. So, no loot boxes, hopefully if Eververse is changed we won't have any more loot box bullshittery, and if it does have loot boxes, then it shouldn't be purchaseable with any kind of currency that can be in any way obtainable with real life money. Make loot box purchases based purely on in game currency and that's a bit better, as long as drop percents aren't shit tier to enforce inhumanly long grind times (as long as items aren't temporary, and items aren't found both in that AND the money shop then nobody should complain that the company is just forcing people to want to spend money). Idk, I think there are ways to go about these things just fine, we just need people who aren't desperate to make quick money off of inflated prices of virtual nothingness and loot box gambling addictions. You can crucify me for this, I already know the fact that I don't think IAPs/MTXs are the devil kind of differentiates me from a lot of the people I've seen comment on this type of things over the last year or two.
Anyway, news is good, I'm hoping for good things, but I doubt Destiny can be "fixed" for me, nor would I want it to be. I'm just one retarded person, and not everyone can be pleased, so despite how much I wanted to like Destiny, and despite how I fucking purchase all the Destiny merch I see when I go to Game Stop (why, why do I DO THIS!?), I'm fine accepting that I'm just part of the crowd that can't be pleased. I'm just not good enough at video games to enjoy them, so I'll stick with JRPGs where no skill whatsoever is involved and I can get all the story I want.
Well the Blizzard thing may be an actuality. If the merger included stipulations that say if Activision does certain things in the partnership that poorly reflect on the entity as a whole, they could break away pretty clearly cut. Never seen the contract and have no idea how deep the Activision tendrils have sunk, but it is possible. I am hoping for it. They are literally killing Blizzard slowly just to gobble up IP into their greedy catalog it seems.