sp6 i also a craft at level 2 workbench if you want more pen and the components for the craft are also pretty nicely priced i think it roughly comes out to about 400 roubles a shot
Pro tip when price-checking USD or Euro: set the amount to 100 and divide the resulting cost by 100. This removes rounding errors. FMJ match rounds are around 70c a piece.
Have been meaning to try out the VSS and this is all the motivation I need, I like how many different guns have untapped potential even if they aren't considered meta. Definitely a lot of fun experimenting and finding the gun that's right for you.
Seriously, Almost every time I pick up and run a gun I usually ignore, I end up having an absolute blast. The guns are so well balanced this wipe, and having guns like SMGs being actually viable for once is so nice. Last wipe I never would have touched the UMP, but it's a new favorite. Same goes for the RFB, has to be a new favorite of mine
This wipe opened up A LOT of doors to new guns to be “meta” since the rarity of running high end class 5/6 armors and face shields is so high. To me personally far and away one of the most fun wipes but also helps that im not in labs where i assume all the chads are
@@kevinnguyen290 I feel like Lighthouse is the new Chad land outside of Labs. They used to kind of disperse between Reserve, Labs, and Customs. But now all the omega Chads roam Lighthouse lol
My problem is my favorite gun in any game and in real life is the .45 acp Vector and it costs so much to use and have 30 round mags (am low level poor boy)
Before tarkov, I always thought the VSS was a cool af gun. Now that tarkov is around, I get to use one of my top favs on the regular. Definitely a keeper
Hell, the VSS was already one of my favorite guns (as an out of game favorite, not high enough to get it in game yet since I'm new). This is all I needed to know to try and main it.
Hey friend, I would definitely try to stay away from maiming guns, I find it ends up wasting a ton of money. I recommend you more so just make a real effort in using whatever guns you have laying around. Just a thought though! Good luck have fun!
@@wrathaloss6091 oh definitely I was thinking more along the lines of whatever guns you take off players bodies (typically mint) but good call though bro.
Also should mention the 30 rounders can be bartered through prapor 3 for 3 pliers so comes so about 20k each if you get them super cheap or grab them from tool boxes
I never see m80 sold out for me. I can easily get 150 per restock even very far into the restock, this was only a problem at the very beginning of the wipe. Yes, I am currently only running a loud rfb, from this video, I will at least try out the more expensive vss to see how it goes. Thanks for opening my eyes to an option I completely forgot existed.
I agree with this other than the velocity part, it’s a bigger downside than you eluded to. On a 100m zero, 50m is hitting about 6 inches high, that’s considerable enough to miss a headshot. And hitting running targets feels really weird on the VSS. And if you opt for a 25 or 50m zero you still get quite a bit of drop at 100m. There’s also a fair number of gunfights that are over 100
@@thannydevitos2332 Tarkov however doesnt represent real life perfectly and I would agree that the VSS ingame is suited best on maps like interchange where engagements often are below 100m. One real life thing though about the VSS that I thought was funny is that it just states "fully automatic sniper rifle" in the description which makes zero sense. Also just doing a quick google search you will just read this everywhere and no source really seemed to adress the weird naming. Only when digging deeper I understood why the design choice makes sense. But the term "sniper rifle" still isnt really justified
@@pixel_arc8550 Russian military and others define a sniper role differently, but you're right. It's not a sniper rifle, it's not even technically a battle rifle. I guess it's closest role that we recognize is designated marksman rifle but it's very range limited for a DMR. And yeah tarkov isn't a cookie cutter IRL simulator. But my main point was I felt the lack of velocity is a bigger downside than the video explained
I wish this were still true. VSS was my go to when i played the 2020 xmas wipe. Back then sp6 was really easy to craft and later in the wipe spp was the go to for its even higher pen and flesh damage. Now theyve nerfed sp5 and spp into the ground, and sp6 is a pretty expensive craft at like 900/round. Id like to know your thoughts on it in the current state.
Glad I wasn't crazy thinking the VSS was pretty damn good this wipe lol, great content and I can't wait to get more free ones off my enemies after this get's more views. Great video
It's not good this wipe. It's ammo is good, and has been good since they added more ammos. It used to only have sp-5 and sp-6 and the pen was only 36 on sp-6 back then. If you use a gun with semi auto that has even mediocre stats, it will as good as it's ammo. It's why DMRs have always been popular and effective.
I love how so many people pick a gun, show how good it is and how well it works. The 'meta' is slowly becoming less and less relevant, and yet all these optional are not 'the same gun'. They all have their own characteristics in terms of how they shoot, and how you keep them sustainable. So many guns I'm inspired to use. Not enough time to master any of them. But great to see so many people finding theirs Truly. :)
Meta follows to basic principals. The first and obvious one of the two is effectiveness. People are going to naturally use things that better then any other thing, but when the line of good things is all very close as in the devs of whatever game have done an actual good job at balancing things out you start to get for lack of a better title, shifting meta. Then the second principle applies. Which is, countering meta. In this case, EFT doesn't have to much counter meta going on except for using ammo that pens whatever is the most common armor you will see. For this wipe, any ammo that is getting through level 4 is solid or meta ammo. For EFT countering meta actually comes down to economics. If balance stays where its at you will see more meta shifts around ease of access and affordability. With very strong ammo being really hard to get it and solid ammo being limited in supply and high in price otherwise. People are going to keep shifting what they use around what is being overlooked. So as long as you stay a step ahead or a step behind you can use good guns with good ammo with high accessibility and affordable pricing.
@@demon3203 I do agree. Put simply there will always be a better. But the meta is getting wider with keeping a variety of play styles in mind. What I like as where things seem to be going, is we will all gravitate to our favorites, and play in the way we want to play, and it will work. We will all play the game a litter differently, and it will work. Unlike before where the meta was just auto laser beems. Boring.
Spawned with this as Scav on Lighthouse and clapped a PMC, nearly clapped his body too but only had 10rd mags. I love it. Fell in love with it in Metro 2033
VSS is a beast. I got one for some task and since it quirky I thought I'd use it for once. From my experience any round drops people in 2 well landed shots, the armour just can't take it, it goes to low durability on 1st shot while also damaging the player and 2nd shot destroys armour and the thorax; you get kills "by accident" with it. Lvl5 is a bit more tricky but korund being most popular lvl5 with 45 durability at max should be maybe 3-4 shots, you'd have to do the math. One gripe I have with it is the fact that the fucking mounting rail for the foregrip costs more than the gun itself and 30 rounders are very expensive (though 20 rounders do the job). Just be prepared to use it as a more capable smg, bullets are so fucking slow that you can fall asleep while waiting for them to hit, leading is hard but stationary targets are fine. Also VSS has a bit less recoil.
Buy the val, toz handguard so u can get lasers and grip on it, if find one cheap or buy the val rotor buffer tube, so u can add AR stock on it. Pab or SP6 ammo... two shot anything in the game.
As someone who has mained several variations of the VSS since I was able to, I appreciate this video. It's honestly the swiss army knife of affordable guns.
vss is my favourite gun in the game, been rocking the same one since level 15, Nice weird ambient music, made me feel like I was supposed to be doing yoga
I've been landing shots but struggling to win fights even with m80 and 7.62 ps, I had no idea 9x39 ammo was so filthy. I just sold the quest reward vss I got from prapor but I got the cash to buy more so I'll give it a shot.
I prefer UMP45 as my budget gun, but not supressed, just switch the barrel and put the Vector45 compensator on there for like 5k and you are good to go. No optic, no foregrip, no device (maybe a flashlight for night raids). This makes UMP a lot cheaper. VSS is good though, but getting one in good condition is pricy and I rather just run a VPO-306 with AP-M ammo that will destroy people. Ultimately what is a "budget gun" depends entirely on what one's budget is. The best bang for buck I know is a stock SKS with PS. for a 25k kit and you have a reasonable chance against everything except the thickest of chads. No rig, armor, helmet, or backpack required. As Pestily says: "If you get good with an SKS, you will never be poor."
I guess, but you're missing out on one thing: Consistency. the only thing that is consistent about the VSS (itself) is that its constantly coming half-broken, which can result in many weapon malfunctions, all of the 9x39 bullets are very effective, but single tapping a subsonic round with a travel time of an airsoft BB, it'll be inconsistent at killing anything at any range above 20+ meters. Plus the availability of the sights that you can throw on it is very limited, In my opinion, the UMP is hot dog water, I don't know why people like it so much, the VSS is a good stepping stone, but its better to have variety with what you want to use, where you want to use it. The points made about the VSS are very valid though, the SP-5 round is very good and its a good budget weapon. But if you want anything versatile, Just run a 7.62 Ak TLDR: All points made are valid, but threre are holes in the argument that the VSS should be used up to level 30
theyve pulled back a little on the durability jamming. got one 60 durability for 39k off flea, well worth especially when you go single fire which you do fine with
set the durability to 90 on the filter then sit there and refresh constantly. regularly get ones for 60-100k also the val is 100-120k at full durability consistently and easier to snag. you can also get them for as low as 50-60k. i sniped 2-3 today at 92-98 durability for 50-60k which is an absolute steal.
This video reminds me of this wipe trying to use an aks-74u for punisher and getting destroyed before I turned auto-fire off and started slapping people with it. Looks fun.
Ahhhhhh a gun thats as fast as high ergo as an smg but can be used semi auto like a dmr its perfectt. The price is the only thing that iirks me but damned this gun is good. I picked it up from a dead player in factory and I instantly fell in love.
A Val I stole off of Sanitar's dead body singlehandedly saved my life in a 1v2 while I was starving, dehydrated, limping, trembling, tunnel visioning, etc, with only a single magazine of SPP. It's honestly an absolute killer at close range.
I'ma give the vss a try, I haven't used it in forever and for what you get and the price it's hard to beat. And because I don't really like rfb's and the ump felt lacking I think that this will be my perfect gun. And for how underrated it is it prob has a higher chance of getting it back in insurance. Keep up with the good vids!
This is a good breakdown. I love undiscovered gems of guns in game, since popularity prices out builds, meaning that for us rats, the meta has to shift
Indeed, and this wipe is so good for us rats since full on mega chads are so rare with the bans on exfils, slicks, and other top tier gear. I feel like anyone can kill anybody if you play it right and put the right shots onto people, for the most part at least since there are still mega chads that have unlocked maxed traders very fast
Please help: Can't seem to find a VSS with acceptable durability on the fleamarket. What would be the minimum durability the gun should have consider buying? Thanks!
I'm having a very weird bug where I can't find the VSS on the flea marktet. Like the gun literally just doesn't show up when I type it in the search bar. It isn't under marksman rifles either
I'm currently lvl 32 and running Front Sight MP7 (FMJ SX or Subsonic) and VSS (SP5) a majority of raids. Both guns are around 40K base and absolutely rip in compared to 100K + guns with overly expensive ammo.
What the hell am I suppoused to do with all of that ACP AP I crafted now? Seriously though it's not worth to get the VSS imho. The only way you can get full durability one is barters and the one that comes out the cheapest is Ratchet Wrench + Cyclon Battery (130~150k depending on the state of the market, currently out of stock btw) which is ridiculous in comparison to the UMP which you can get for 7 damascus knives that go for 3~6k each so 30k on average + 50k supressor from PK which Comes out to around 80k. Not to mention that mounting optics on the VSS is a joke. This gun would be good if BSG added a better barter or a direct cash option for a VSS cause every other option than those two mentioned barters is a scav gun so good luck shooting with that 10.0 moa.
There's no argument about the performance of the rounds, but I'd say comparing stats and lining up .45 FMJ and 9x39 SP5 is a pretty bad way to actually contrast these two weapons' strengths. Sure, if you have to hit 6 FMJ to the armor to kill, you'd be dead long before you broke through the armor, but you're also probably not shooting for the chest plate with a round like that on a gun that's so easily controllable out of the box: if you're 6 hits deep and haven't already hit the head/face shot, there's the real issue with the situation. Overall though, I think I agree with the VSS being stronger than a suppressed UMP when considering use as a proper rifle and not a weakspot/flesh-focused smg. The UMP's suppressor is a little too pricey to be a good deal. I had a blast with the VSS last wipe, but the cost of magazines kind of turned me off of it as a "budget" gun (i was using it mainly for spraying sp5). How bad is it to run one of the low-durability scav VSS's?
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sp6 i also a craft at level 2 workbench if you want more pen and the components for the craft are also pretty nicely priced i think it roughly comes out to about 400 roubles a shot
yep you can also buy it at prap 3, about the same stats as 762 bp, everyone's favourite bullet last wipe and last wipe it was easy to get 5/6 armour
adds 20% recoil..
@@TheAirak did you watch the video?
@@taeyeoff what do you think of as-val compared to the vss
@@grigss3027 same gun buy it
Pro tip when price-checking USD or Euro: set the amount to 100 and divide the resulting cost by 100. This removes rounding errors. FMJ match rounds are around 70c a piece.
Have been meaning to try out the VSS and this is all the motivation I need, I like how many different guns have untapped potential even if they aren't considered meta. Definitely a lot of fun experimenting and finding the gun that's right for you.
Seriously, Almost every time I pick up and run a gun I usually ignore, I end up having an absolute blast. The guns are so well balanced this wipe, and having guns like SMGs being actually viable for once is so nice. Last wipe I never would have touched the UMP, but it's a new favorite. Same goes for the RFB, has to be a new favorite of mine
This wipe opened up A LOT of doors to new guns to be “meta” since the rarity of running high end class 5/6 armors and face shields is so high. To me personally far and away one of the most fun wipes but also helps that im not in labs where i assume all the chads are
@@kevinnguyen290 I feel like Lighthouse is the new Chad land outside of Labs. They used to kind of disperse between Reserve, Labs, and Customs. But now all the omega Chads roam Lighthouse lol
@@mpkp2011 yeah for sure the guaranteed decent loot from the rogues def attracts a lot of people
My problem is my favorite gun in any game and in real life is the .45 acp Vector and it costs so much to use and have 30 round mags (am low level poor boy)
Before tarkov, I always thought the VSS was a cool af gun. Now that tarkov is around, I get to use one of my top favs on the regular. Definitely a keeper
Hell, the VSS was already one of my favorite guns (as an out of game favorite, not high enough to get it in game yet since I'm new). This is all I needed to know to try and main it.
Hey friend, I would definitely try to stay away from maiming guns, I find it ends up wasting a ton of money. I recommend you more so just make a real effort in using whatever guns you have laying around. Just a thought though! Good luck have fun!
@@daddylopz3100 Don't forget to tell him that the durability of the gun affects both accuracy and likely hood of gun Jams*
@@wrathaloss6091 oh definitely I was thinking more along the lines of whatever guns you take off players bodies (typically mint) but good call though bro.
Scavs spawn with the VSS all the time
Also should mention the 30 rounders can be bartered through prapor 3 for 3 pliers so comes so about 20k each if you get them super cheap or grab them from tool boxes
appreciate the videos. I came back after being away for almost 2 yrs and you have helped me remember and learn so much. thank you.
I never see m80 sold out for me. I can easily get 150 per restock even very far into the restock, this was only a problem at the very beginning of the wipe. Yes, I am currently only running a loud rfb, from this video, I will at least try out the more expensive vss to see how it goes. Thanks for opening my eyes to an option I completely forgot existed.
I’m pretty sure they removed the limit per restock like they did with the factory plan map
@@larssmith6780 oh thad do it lol
@@SynchroFPS which I love because I use DMRs whenever I have the opportunity
as other commenter stated, the amount was increased the amount you could buy decreased. it regularly sold out the first week of wipe.
Great vid! For a guys whos just starting out you have really well made videos and are at pro level imo. I really appreciate the chapters too!
I agree with this other than the velocity part, it’s a bigger downside than you eluded to. On a 100m zero, 50m is hitting about 6 inches high, that’s considerable enough to miss a headshot. And hitting running targets feels really weird on the VSS. And if you opt for a 25 or 50m zero you still get quite a bit of drop at 100m. There’s also a fair number of gunfights that are over 100
It's not meant to fight at that range. Neither is the UMP.
@@sean9267 and that’s where you are very wrong. The VSS was designed as a special operations marksman rifle to be used up to 300m for stealthy shots
@@thannydevitos2332 Tarkov however doesnt represent real life perfectly and I would agree that the VSS ingame is suited best on maps like interchange where engagements often are below 100m.
One real life thing though about the VSS that I thought was funny is that it just states "fully automatic sniper rifle" in the description which makes zero sense. Also just doing a quick google search you will just read this everywhere and no source really seemed to adress the weird naming. Only when digging deeper I understood why the design choice makes sense. But the term "sniper rifle" still isnt really justified
@@pixel_arc8550 Russian military and others define a sniper role differently, but you're right. It's not a sniper rifle, it's not even technically a battle rifle. I guess it's closest role that we recognize is designated marksman rifle but it's very range limited for a DMR. And yeah tarkov isn't a cookie cutter IRL simulator. But my main point was I felt the lack of velocity is a bigger downside than the video explained
It’s cool, stealthy, iconic, packed with punch.
But it’s definitely not the ONLY weapon you should be using.
Well completing shooter born in heaven with this thing would be a nightmare - but yeah its a beautiful gun and it's quite the badass!!
*They should also add the assault version by that I mean the ASM*
@@1337CaptainHadock i really did try to snipe with this gun... It's such a nightmare to use even at 80m
@@XxHorseshoeXx Yeah especially with the new ballistics
it is
watching this video in tarkov .13, 2023, is a trip lmao! Still like the VSS/VAL with SPP, even if the pen values have been nerfed!
I wish this were still true. VSS was my go to when i played the 2020 xmas wipe. Back then sp6 was really easy to craft and later in the wipe spp was the go to for its even higher pen and flesh damage. Now theyve nerfed sp5 and spp into the ground, and sp6 is a pretty expensive craft at like 900/round. Id like to know your thoughts on it in the current state.
shredded chads with it in 2021 and first half of 2022. sad it got nerfed
Dude you weren't lying this thing shreds
Very good vid, and the calming music worked super well for no apparent reason.
Glad I wasn't crazy thinking the VSS was pretty damn good this wipe lol, great content and I can't wait to get more free ones off my enemies after this get's more views. Great video
was it ever not good?
It's not good this wipe. It's ammo is good, and has been good since they added more ammos. It used to only have sp-5 and sp-6 and the pen was only 36 on sp-6 back then. If you use a gun with semi auto that has even mediocre stats, it will as good as it's ammo. It's why DMRs have always been popular and effective.
it's always been good, used to be THE best since it had basically no recoil
@@engillcool21 pre val nerf it was outclassed by m4s and hks. now its better than both.
The atmosphere of this video, the way you present all the facts and the background music... man that could be a EVE Online Video :D
i love it btw ;)
I love how so many people pick a gun, show how good it is and how well it works. The 'meta' is slowly becoming less and less relevant, and yet all these optional are not 'the same gun'. They all have their own characteristics in terms of how they shoot, and how you keep them sustainable. So many guns I'm inspired to use. Not enough time to master any of them. But great to see so many people finding theirs Truly. :)
Meta follows to basic principals. The first and obvious one of the two is effectiveness. People are going to naturally use things that better then any other thing, but when the line of good things is all very close as in the devs of whatever game have done an actual good job at balancing things out you start to get for lack of a better title, shifting meta. Then the second principle applies. Which is, countering meta. In this case, EFT doesn't have to much counter meta going on except for using ammo that pens whatever is the most common armor you will see. For this wipe, any ammo that is getting through level 4 is solid or meta ammo. For EFT countering meta actually comes down to economics. If balance stays where its at you will see more meta shifts around ease of access and affordability. With very strong ammo being really hard to get it and solid ammo being limited in supply and high in price otherwise. People are going to keep shifting what they use around what is being overlooked. So as long as you stay a step ahead or a step behind you can use good guns with good ammo with high accessibility and affordable pricing.
@@demon3203 I do agree. Put simply there will always be a better. But the meta is getting wider with keeping a variety of play styles in mind. What I like as where things seem to be going, is we will all gravitate to our favorites, and play in the way we want to play, and it will work. We will all play the game a litter differently, and it will work. Unlike before where the meta was just auto laser beems. Boring.
Discovered your channel recently, and instantly subscribed, your videos are God tier dude.
This is all I have been using even before I checked out this video so this just confirmed where I was at this wipe. Thank you
I really like the music you got going on, really space/aquatic vibe I rarely hear
thx, just droped 3 guys on reserve just like you teached, i've aways hated using the ump and never had considered using the vss
happy to see the old legendary gun find it's propose again
RIP SP-5 level 2 Prapor
Just found you today and already love the vids, keep ‘em coming
Right on man thanks for the Video really enjoyed it ! and being a new player I'll be trying out these guns and ammo.
Spawned with this as Scav on Lighthouse and clapped a PMC, nearly clapped his body too but only had 10rd mags. I love it. Fell in love with it in Metro 2033
Nearly clapped his body??? You freaky bro
Thanks for existing man. Keep up the good work!
VSS is a beast. I got one for some task and since it quirky I thought I'd use it for once. From my experience any round drops people in 2 well landed shots, the armour just can't take it, it goes to low durability on 1st shot while also damaging the player and 2nd shot destroys armour and the thorax; you get kills "by accident" with it. Lvl5 is a bit more tricky but korund being most popular lvl5 with 45 durability at max should be maybe 3-4 shots, you'd have to do the math. One gripe I have with it is the fact that the fucking mounting rail for the foregrip costs more than the gun itself and 30 rounders are very expensive (though 20 rounders do the job). Just be prepared to use it as a more capable smg, bullets are so fucking slow that you can fall asleep while waiting for them to hit, leading is hard but stationary targets are fine. Also VSS has a bit less recoil.
Love buying broken VSS’s for mega cheap and running it with SP-5. Very good for cqb since accuracy doesn’t matter as much
You Sir, are a BEAST. You need real brains to work this out. My hat off to you sir.
Buy the val, toz handguard so u can get lasers and grip on it, if find one cheap or buy the val rotor buffer tube, so u can add AR stock on it. Pab or SP6 ammo... two shot anything in the game.
i mean the rotor buffer tube is easy to get, just do the milk barter
@@gabe3282 yeah almost forgot bagging trade mech lvl2
also the sp-5 round can easily be the most underrated round, you can make 300 of them for 40-60k and sometimes 20
As someone who has mained several variations of the VSS since I was able to, I appreciate this video.
It's honestly the swiss army knife of affordable guns.
Not affordable anymore lmao. Its a ton on the flea now that people realized its good
@@dankosanchez5135 the 20k increase isn't THAT bad. Luckily I'm stocked to the britches with a bunch of VSS kits.
Loved the video. What's the song on the background btw?
vss is my favourite gun in the game, been rocking the same one since level 15, Nice weird ambient music, made me feel like I was supposed to be doing yoga
I honestly never thought of like that. Very informative 👏
Oh
Thanks recommended
I did like this video, I guess it’s always good to see them again
I agree for when you can choose a weapon... so frequently at that level you are running guns for quests specifically that it doesn't really matter.
As a new player who is now level 12, I should thank you for awesome guide.
Unfortunately vss prices have gone through the roof, you can buy a val though. They're pretty much the same gun.
I've been landing shots but struggling to win fights even with m80 and 7.62 ps, I had no idea 9x39 ammo was so filthy. I just sold the quest reward vss I got from prapor but I got the cash to buy more so I'll give it a shot.
val is cheaper atm
Good stuff!
Since you just started with youtube (more or less who knows) I will sub to you.
Good quality content this channel should have more subs wtf
Awesome video bro!! Love your chilled commentary style. Subbed
Love the video man! helped me out a ton!
VSS and VAL were all the rage a few years ago. Now that top tier armor is less common, I can see how using them in semi-auto would be effective again.
broo i knew i was onto something!! ty for the validation
I prefer UMP45 as my budget gun, but not supressed, just switch the barrel and put the Vector45 compensator on there for like 5k and you are good to go. No optic, no foregrip, no device (maybe a flashlight for night raids). This makes UMP a lot cheaper.
VSS is good though, but getting one in good condition is pricy and I rather just run a VPO-306 with AP-M ammo that will destroy people.
Ultimately what is a "budget gun" depends entirely on what one's budget is. The best bang for buck I know is a stock SKS with PS. for a 25k kit and you have a reasonable chance against everything except the thickest of chads. No rig, armor, helmet, or backpack required. As Pestily says: "If you get good with an SKS, you will never be poor."
I guess, but you're missing out on one thing: Consistency. the only thing that is consistent about the VSS (itself) is that its constantly coming half-broken, which can result in many weapon malfunctions, all of the 9x39 bullets are very effective, but single tapping a subsonic round with a travel time of an airsoft BB, it'll be inconsistent at killing anything at any range above 20+ meters. Plus the availability of the sights that you can throw on it is very limited, In my opinion, the UMP is hot dog water, I don't know why people like it so much, the VSS is a good stepping stone, but its better to have variety with what you want to use, where you want to use it. The points made about the VSS are very valid though, the SP-5 round is very good and its a good budget weapon. But if you want anything versatile, Just run a 7.62 Ak
TLDR: All points made are valid, but threre are holes in the argument that the VSS should be used up to level 30
You made good points , I might give it a try
i enjoy single shots this wipe anyways. awesome thanks for the vid meng
Its a good gun but way too expensive at ~150k roubles on the flea market. Unless you opt for a 50 durability one that jams every few seconds
theyve pulled back a little on the durability jamming. got one 60 durability for 39k off flea, well worth especially when you go single fire which you do fine with
I agree with RFB seems like a better deal now. Think the secret is out
set the durability to 90 on the filter then sit there and refresh constantly. regularly get ones for 60-100k
also the val is 100-120k at full durability consistently and easier to snag. you can also get them for as low as 50-60k. i sniped 2-3 today at 92-98 durability for 50-60k which is an absolute steal.
This music was peaceful af, great video
I love the vss, great video!
This video reminds me of this wipe trying to use an aks-74u for punisher and getting destroyed before I turned auto-fire off and started slapping people with it.
Looks fun.
Would’ve loved to see the actual build of the gun
I explained the build, bone stock vss or val with an okp7 optic. You can't get any other attachments at trader levels 2
@@taeyeoff visually but thank you, GREAT video, and i will be stealing you build
dope take on a less used gun, idk why we called the okp a clean sight though. lmaoo nice vid
Okp is sick
i love the video, are you able to increase the volume on your mic though?
I think i've heard people say that you cant compare recoil stats of different guns, same stats give very different results.
this is true, the stats are dependent on the gun and shouldn't be compared with other guns
Rpm plays a big role
Nice vid bro, keep ‘em comin
now, that's an underrated channel!
Nice video man love the ambient music
Ahhhhhh a gun thats as fast as high ergo as an smg but can be used semi auto like a dmr its perfectt.
The price is the only thing that iirks me but damned this gun is good.
I picked it up from a dead player in factory and I instantly fell in love.
ump's on fmj main poteential is shooting at naked pmc or his legs because fmj have a good dmg, thats why you can fast die from it
no matter what they do to my vss i will never stop loving it
A Val I stole off of Sanitar's dead body singlehandedly saved my life in a 1v2 while I was starving, dehydrated, limping, trembling, tunnel visioning, etc, with only a single magazine of SPP.
It's honestly an absolute killer at close range.
bro imma need the song u used for this vid its so good
M80 isn't sold out nearly as much as it was earlier in the wipe. It is my go to for my Hunter that I use with this same sight.
vepr huntr 😹😹👎👎👎👎
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Really liked this one, calm and infomative. Thumbs up on this one!
this gun is a secret sauce to success for sure
i think the vss is better if youre going for torso shots, but I like the ump because you can just laser people in the face. Same with most smgs
short, informative, and you even had examples ingame...nice video man appreciate the info
This is an amazingly made video and inspires me to learn more about editing and keep it going
Rly good video, the details etc. earned a sub
the vss never comes back in insurance tho and its 100k without atachments the ump is fully modded 90k
i tried it and its very very good at mediume range and it's almost completly silent. Thanks!
I don’t buy UMP, i trade for 7 knives, and it is one of best weapon, just AIM at head
Love the VSS hadn’t tried it this wipe gonna now tho. Thanks for the info!
I'ma give the vss a try, I haven't used it in forever and for what you get and the price it's hard to beat. And because I don't really like rfb's and the ump felt lacking I think that this will be my perfect gun. And for how underrated it is it prob has a higher chance of getting it back in insurance. Keep up with the good vids!
This video was so chill until the end
Came here expecting a few show off fights, but I leave convinced. I’m about to hit lvl 2 traders I’m going to give the val a solid try.
Run the val instead vss really expensive atm. They're basically the same gun
Nice guide! I would like to see more highlights or gameplay. Keep up the good job!
This is a good breakdown. I love undiscovered gems of guns in game, since popularity prices out builds, meaning that for us rats, the meta has to shift
Indeed, and this wipe is so good for us rats since full on mega chads are so rare with the bans on exfils, slicks, and other top tier gear. I feel like anyone can kill anybody if you play it right and put the right shots onto people, for the most part at least since there are still mega chads that have unlocked maxed traders very fast
9x39 replaced 556 at one point. its far from new unless youre new
awesome video, only thing I have to say is that you sounded pretty quiet. I'm pretty sure it's not something on my end but keep up the good videos!
should be fixed, check my settings video and lmk if the audio is good thanks
problem with vss and val is tho the dropp on all the ammo, makes it useless at long ranges even now with the new wipe ammo changes..
I have always loved the vss and am happy to hear you do too man, great gun great ammo
Please help: Can't seem to find a VSS with acceptable durability on the fleamarket. What would be the minimum durability the gun should have consider buying? Thanks!
Buy a val read the desc
Thanks for the quick answer and great video bro👍
Why is it that he can get shot a couple times and survive but my enemies i run into manage to always one tap me in the thorax or head?
The ump is literally a point and click adventure game this wipe
How do you like the vss now after ammo and gun changes? Is it still worth using?
Dude, What is your post fx settings? Looks good!
I'm having a very weird bug where I can't find the VSS on the flea marktet. Like the gun literally just doesn't show up when I type it in the search bar. It isn't under marksman rifles either
Try typing val
nice video man, keep it up, easy sub.
I'm currently lvl 32 and running Front Sight MP7 (FMJ SX or Subsonic) and VSS (SP5) a majority of raids. Both guns are around 40K base and absolutely rip in compared to 100K + guns with overly expensive ammo.
yes, running this is only good up to traders level 3
front sight mp7 still a thing? wanted to try it
@@fireengie8488 oh yeah dude. KAC Micro folding sight, x400 flashlight, Subsonic rounds for the lower recoil - thing melts.
What the hell am I suppoused to do with all of that ACP AP I crafted now?
Seriously though it's not worth to get the VSS imho. The only way you can get full durability one is barters and the one that comes out the cheapest is Ratchet Wrench + Cyclon Battery (130~150k depending on the state of the market, currently out of stock btw) which is ridiculous in comparison to the UMP which you can get for 7 damascus knives that go for 3~6k each so 30k on average + 50k supressor from PK which Comes out to around 80k. Not to mention that mounting optics on the VSS is a joke. This gun would be good if BSG added a better barter or a direct cash option for a VSS cause every other option than those two mentioned barters is a scav gun so good luck shooting with that 10.0 moa.
Bro LMMFAO did you see the guys recoil with the ak lol
I agree 100%. I've always loved 9x39 caliber it hits so hard!
Keep in mind. Not sure if this barter is new this wipe. You can trade mechanic a milk for a rotor grip. idk why i still see it 100k on flee
There's no argument about the performance of the rounds, but I'd say comparing stats and lining up .45 FMJ and 9x39 SP5 is a pretty bad way to actually contrast these two weapons' strengths. Sure, if you have to hit 6 FMJ to the armor to kill, you'd be dead long before you broke through the armor, but you're also probably not shooting for the chest plate with a round like that on a gun that's so easily controllable out of the box: if you're 6 hits deep and haven't already hit the head/face shot, there's the real issue with the situation. Overall though, I think I agree with the VSS being stronger than a suppressed UMP when considering use as a proper rifle and not a weakspot/flesh-focused smg. The UMP's suppressor is a little too pricey to be a good deal. I had a blast with the VSS last wipe, but the cost of magazines kind of turned me off of it as a "budget" gun (i was using it mainly for spraying sp5). How bad is it to run one of the low-durability scav VSS's?