Carry-on 5x8 trailer Modifications!
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- These are the modifications that I did to a basic 5 x 8 foot Utility trailer I bought at the home center. I got most of these ideas/information from others, so I hope this helps someone else.
-deck
-jack
-gear box
-tie downs
-bearings
-spare tire
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Great video! I have the exact trailer from Lowe’s and wanted to do plywood but didn’t know where to start. Also the box on the tongue I wanted to do but had no idea also where to start. Thanks for the ideas!!!
I bought one of these recently, hauled a motorcycle 300 miles, it was shaking so bad I thought a hook would pop loose any moment... Sure enough the last the quarter mile of driving (which is down a pot holed dirt road) I hit a big bump and watched in the rear view mirror as my bike tipped over. Luckily I was going like 2 mph and didn't damage anything (its a dirt bike it falls all the time lol). Definitely adding a deck to the trailer cause that was a terrifying drive home lol. I could see cars staying back from my trailer, probably out of fear lol.
Best spaz and review I have ever seen
Pretty good ideas. Few things I didn't think of. Nice bid on the fittings for the wheels...I wouldn't have done that. Randall would have cause he is so much better, smarter and experienced than I am. Thanks for the input. I'm off to wish I was as good as everyone else who has done, owned and worked with everything I never have. Good look on this one John...Thanks
Great simple video. Have the same exact trailer and going t make these modifications. Thanks.
Nice video, you are a DIY genius.
Thanks for the video, that was helpful!
Some great ideas. I need to mount the spare tire.
Awesome video man. Just got the exact same trailer today! Gonna get the 1×6×8 planks instead for the flooring. Other than that, your ideas are solid! Gonna use mine for light duty hauling, but for the money, this trailer was a steal! Doing these simple mods saves a lot of $$$! Thanks!
Do you think that 1x6x8 will hold up good weight. I have to redo my floor I was thinking 2 x12 x 8
Thanks for the video. I like your ideas.
thanks for the feedback
Hey man this is some awesome stuff to have on my 5x8 I'll be doing this to it now very essential I was looking for a video to give me the best ideas and you was the only one thanks buddy
+Sloppy Hamfingers lol
@Sloppy Hamfingers ....some people just recognize genius easier than others.....
thanks for uploading this! need to buy one and got a good look cuz of ur video :)
I like it thank you so much for sharing. We raptor bed liner sprayed ours for the landscaping business.
That is awesome!
Had to rewire mine already after a month of owning it. I got mine on sale at lowes. Mine holds up. We already hauled motorcycles. A atv and a upright piano with it. Pulls great
Yes, the original wires into the lights are just push connectors. Probably the cheapest they could find. Worth the upgrade.
How much was the sale? I’m contemplating being patient and waiting for a Black Friday sale maybe.
@@kgoutdoorsolutions430 I paid like $800ish and that was with 5% off with lowes card. We still have it. Last thing I towed was a full dresser Harley n it just made it in .
Nicely done.
I've wanted to have a spare tire on the trailer but didn't want to spend the money on one. Your Ubolt idea is genius. I'm going to steal it lol. I just put my 5x8 Carry-on trailer into my workshop so I can remove the 2x lumber I used for the floor (as you know the mesh sucks) and I'll replace with enameled plywood (lighter). I'll fab up some removable sides with 2x or plywood. I'll also weld on tongue supports since its not rigid enough.
..If I had welding gear I would have added tongue supports as well. It needs it.
Great video, very honest. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
I also changed the rear lights to LED's; kept having incandescent bulbs go bad.
I am buying one of these from Trailers Plus in Las Vegas. I think it will be a great size trailer.
You must have had some badass drill bits!
The steel is pretty soft/ mild steel quality.
A basic video is better for someone that's not mechanically inclined. Good job.
What size is the tires....please let'me know
@@adrianrosales9147 ...480 X 12; 5-Hole Spoked Rim; Load Range B tires. These are basic 12 inch trailer tires. Light duty.
Few trolls found their way to this video, with anger in hearts all because they still can't put together a 2 piece lego set. Great video and helpful. I noted the items needed and that you mentioned about bolting tie-downs, you should do follow up video for that (or other mods). I'd like to get trailer (likely 5x9 but 8 should work) so I can load up two motorcycles, which weigh roughly 850-900 combined.
Thanks, I did replace the screws with bolts for the tie downs. Maybe I will make a follow up video.🤔... I would think it could handle two motorcycles easily.
, Yes two motorcyclemotorcycles should be easy to trailer on this.
I have a identical trailer and I noticed that on many as well as mine the deck rots on the outer edges due to.the water trapped between the wood and metal so I would either waterproof it as much as possible or use pvc decking on the far left and right sides with regular wood in the middle to save on the cost.
Yeah, the wood is an expendable item. I used marine grade plywood, or treated plywood, and it will last a few years outside in the weather.
@@johnsciarra I agree but I plan to enclose it and don't want to be tearing it apart to make repairs in a few years.
Wild guess here, but would tend to think the old "heavier" trailer has a higher load rating. "A" frame tongue, heavier angle iron, etc. are main clues.
Great Video! Thanks for sharing. I just bought a 6'x10' foot trailer and looking for ideas to upgrade it.
Wait a minute!😱 You didn't say that tailgate was dragging you down.....its a mesh tailgate!😂💜💕
Even the mesh tailgate adds a lot of drag at highway speeds.
where did u get the boxes strap from on the tonuge
Just picked up the same trailer from my brother-in-law for $200... need some TLC but it should be just fine
also how long of screws did you get? and where? did you cut an inch and a quarter off each 8" wide board to make fit? for width ?
basic self taping screws from the hardware store. I did not modify the boards to make them fit.. The plywood and the boards just fit by width.
Questions please.
1. Did you pre drill any hole or straight in with them
2. What and where did you find those greasable end caps and what size please and thank you.
I used self tapping screws for the deck boards--no need to predrill. The greasable end caps are available on line, such as amazon.---It is the bearing buddy 42102 , For the hub diameter 1.980
Why not a bar from one side to the other behind the wheels for the hitch to change the tire if it becomes flat.
Did you try to mod the axle or did it bend like that during use ? I just made my 5x8 purchase from Northern Tool
...That is how the axle is when bought. I did not change it, except for adding the grease fittings.
That’s the way they’re made.
They’re supposed to be like that.
Did you get the trailer jack at Lowes I have this same trailer for all of my lawn equipment and l love it it's perfect for me thanks for the video : - )
... got the trailer jack on amazon..
I'm going by this video tonight to do my trailer the mesh is falling through where my wheels set from my mower so I'm going to paint it tonight and cut some of mesh out if not all of it then lay the wood.
don't bother cutting the mesh....just attach the wood, flip the trailer over, and pound the mesh flat. good luck.
Where did you get the metal tie down brackets? I can't find any like that.
tree hugger ..... i’m not sure where they came from, I just had them lying around.
Thanks for the ideas. Where did you get the tire for $30?
Amazon
what tongue jack did you use for this build? thanks for the info
REESE Towpower 74410 Trailer Jack, Heavy-Duty Swivel Mount, 6-Inch Wheel, Chrome, available from amazon or other places for about $35
The plywood is one soild board or two? is it bolted to the underneath metal?
Shane Audet , the plywood is one piece, the side pieces are boards, I bolted The plywood down through the tie down rings to the frame. At first I just used self tapping screws to hold it down. But putting a bolt and nut through the tiedown rings and then the frame was much more secure for the rings and it also held the plywood down as an added benefit. You don’t really need the self tapping screws if you do it this way.
john sciarra I wanted to see this part 😫 😞
Ok seen the whole video and I get it now thankssss! 👍🏿 ❤️
Nice set up, where did you pick up the grease bearing kits for the trailer?
- easily found on amazon.
Corona got him by the boo boo lol
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Does your tailgate still fold in after your mods?
yes. the plywood does not affect the liftgate.
trailer is 5 feet wide why the 4 foot wide plywood and 8" boards? = 4 ft 16" ? and not 6" boards ? did the 8" fit right in no cutting ? seems like would be to wide?
mark zimmerman , www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072ZZZCQG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1, (link) these are about 1 1/2 inch self tapping metal screws. The link above is to Amazon.
The 4 x 8 sheet of plywood did not cover the whole thing, width-wise, so I just added an approximately 6 inch dimensionally wide board on either side. I believe that 8 inch boards are generally not actually 8 inches- they’re nominally less. I think they do sell 5 x 8 sheets of plywood, that would be best. When I bought it at the home Center they let me throw the wood on top to see what fit, this made it easy.
great video..thanks. Where did you get the tool box and what size is it?
it is a plastic ammo box, you can order them online. I just had it sitting around.
@@johnsciarra thanks..do you happen to know what size it is? thanks. Also did you mount it to the tongue bar?
Hey did u remove the chicken cage thingy from the bottom of the trailer befor installing the plywood....?..........I wanna do the same thimg to mine
...don’t remove it. Just leave it in place and place the plywood right over it . You can use self tapping metal screws to drill right into the metal to hold the plywood down.
@@johnsciarra thanks
I had the 5 by 10 look alike trailer. It was pretty flimsy. It had the single beam tow rig. A trailer builder said a v stabilizer setup is much stronger. The trailer seemed to bow from frt. to back
... yeah, it is a light duty model alright. The plywood does a lot to stiffen it up though.
What was the size bearing buddy fit your trailer as I have the exact same trailer by the same company...
It is the bearing buddy 42102 , For the hub diameter 1.980
I have that exact one and I can say for sure it will be a rusted POS after one year...
I have had this one for six years now and it is perfect. Some light surface rust that I have sanded and spayed. Paid $599. one of the best values I have ever had.
Ive had one over a year and it does great. I keep it under the carport with my van and I painted the little chips when I first bought it, added a sheet of plywood and e track strap setup and few other upgrades and i wouldn't trade it for anything. Light and pulls great.
I seriously doubt that, especially if you keep the paint knicks touched-up.
I have the exact trailer. Got it from tractor supply. Could you please tell me what size deck boards I need? And how many? Sorry if I'm being a burden. Great ideas.
It’s said in the video. He used 1 1/2 4x8 and 2 1x8
Rj, how much did you pay at tractor supply if you dont mind me asking
@@ryanragan8899 it was $749.99 or something like that. After taxes it was close to 900 but not quite. It's been a great trailer so far. Would recommend putting deck boards down like shown in this video.
@@rjskum688 awesome thank you!
@@ryanragan8899 anytime man
WHat size Bearing Buddy did you get? And is that a 5x8?
...Bearing Buddy 42102 Chrome Bearing Protector - 1.980" Diameter, Pair
What were the measurements for your deck I see you have three pieces of wood in it on the floor
... it is a 5x8 foot deck. the sheet of plywood is only 4x8 foot....So, I had to add the boards on the sides of the plywood to make up the difference.
What size bearing buddies did you end up using?
Bearing Buddy 3000.091 42102 Chrome Bearing Protector - 1.980" Diameter
Pan head self tappers? Why not carriage bolts? Also, I added some 1,000 pound D-ring tie-downs to the upper rails and front rail to tie my quad down.
The pan head self tapping metal screws are really just to hold down the boards on the side of the plywood. Proper nut and bolts hold down the D-rings, which hold down the plywood.
john sciarra I’m going to do pressure treated 2x6 decking and an axle flip on mine
The self-tapping screws that are shown, will easily rust in treated wood.
Carriage bolts in wood is an exercise in frustration later.....they’ll just spin when you try to remove them one day, and you have no way to hold the head.
Just use tiedown fittings or regular hex bolts to hold the wood down.
it's a misconception that those bearing buddy caps are packing the bearings, which they are not. they're just squirting grease into the cap. I would still take the hubs off and grease and pack the bearings at least once a year
Brendan, this is true, but it uses a spring pressure mechanism to force grease in and keep water out. The grease should go farther than the cap-- And if you hit it with the grease gun once in a while you may be able to keep the thing lubed for the duration. If the axle ever needs work, I would just replace it with proper grease-zerk fitted bearings.
where did you get the gear box?
Rodney Fry , it is a standard ammo box. Available on Amazon if you need or Walmart probably.
@@johnsciarra how many an what type of screws did u use for the box?
I used a "U" bolt around the trailer tongue and up into the box. The bolts are inside the box. Your basic U bolt found at the hardware store.
Can anyone HELP please?
What is the meaning of *size 4-80-8* written on a small, one axis tire? And can it be safely replace by a 4-8-12? Considering physical fit is right?
....Usually the first number is the width/aspect ration (4 inches) and the second number is the wheel diameter (8.0 inches). It is hard to say what you have, it could be 4.8 inches wide/aspect ratio for a 8 inch wheel, most likely. That is a pretty common trailer tire. Most important is to determine the wheel or rim diameter-- so get a ruler and measure that. From that point, you can compare apples to apples. Most 8 inch tires will fit on most 8 inch rims. The tire in this video is a 12 inch rim, so any 12 inch trailer tire will be close. Again this trailer takes very common tires: 480-12 (480 aspect ratio, 12 inch wheel). Hope this helps.
@@johnsciarra Thanks a lot John for your detail and rapid reply. You have one more subscriber and a thumbs up.
Here is the link to my trailer's tire (Original) that I need to replace:
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Here is the name and brand of it:
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I want to replace this with a Harbor Fright 4-80-12
LINK:
www.harborfreight.com/480-12in-tire-with-4-lug-rim-load-b-64236.html
I see that my original tire had more (Thicker) tire material compare to this narrower one.
Will it work? Is it safe and Better choice?
Also Strangely enough (And please excuse my noviceness (First timer in this), the selling manager told me I need to take the receipt of purchase to DMV and register with them as it is part of a trailer!! Is this true and anytime you buy a tire for a trailer, you need to register it with DMV? Or she only wanted to make endless long DMV lines, even longer?!
Thanks again for the reply.
Don’t know what she’s talking about with the DMV.
@@johnsciarra Yes. Doesn't make sense at all. Never thought a tire should be registered! And DMV is so crowded here that unless I have to, I don't want to even get close to them.
Do you know the size of the bearing Buddie s for your 5x8 trailer
Bearing Protector - 1.980" Diameter, Pair
What size baring caps did you use?
Bearing Buddy 3000.091 42102 Chrome Bearing Protector - 1.980" Diameter
rust reformer. keep up on it and it should last a long,long time! wipe down with wd-40, etc,!!!
Where did you get the spare tire from??
Online - Amazon
Lowe’s and Tractor Supply have them.
I think with Lowe’s, you have to order it online.
Now to build a camper like the ones you would slide onto a pickup! only have the bottom be 4'-10" x 8' or even a bit longer with the tailgate taken off, instead of 4'x8' std floor of a truck camper.
What psi on tire's recommended?
It really depends on the load you’re carrying, for a smoother ride you can bring the tires down to 30. If you’re carrying a heavy load, you might need to add more air.
Check into concrete form release plywood. It’s marine grade with plastic coating on both sides. Have used it on truck flat beds. Pallets slide on easy but you have to walk more carefully when wet. Will last a long time. Purchase from concrete contractor supply.
That is a super specialty product, but a great idea for a trailer bed.
Lowe's cheap special
can the trailer be wrapped with auto vinyl?
I don't think so.
Tires can do 1000 or more. I’ve really abused mine over the year
You just need to rust proof your frame you do with automatic transmission fluid 12 oz 4 oz of PB Blaster or WD40 and 1 oz of Dawn dish soap put in spray bottle and spray your trailer that's what everyone uses in the United States for rust proofing you're welcome
How did this trailer hold up?
still going strong in 2023
How much was that heavy duty trailer at 1:45?
I sold it used for just under $1000.
If u put axle under springs then u cant keep bow up un less u cut off hangers and weld them back on....
..is that your real name???? Anyways, I am sure someone could find a way to mount the axle. In the video I was just saying, that the axle crown was mounted correctly from the factory. Part of my thorough review. :-)
Do u know why they put a crown in it?
it helps handle the load better
Yea its for weight
The flooring I know you use pressure treated wood but you should coat the boards with used engine oil. Gives it a golden brown colour and the boards or plywood will never rot out. Also works on anything wood that is outside in the elements.
.. that’s an interesting technique, I’ve never heard of it.
Did you mean diesel fuel / used motor oil mix.?
Use under coat spray.
I have a 5x8 wooden trailer.Im wondering is it a way i can tow a small mini car.Turning it into a tow dolly having rear wheels of the trailer and the two front wheels secure on the trailer ???
I don't think this is strong enough for that. Maybe if you just used the axle and did a lot of welding.....
Hell no.
if you want to protect that wood even more... google " poor man's fibreglass " . just a thought. do both sides.
..yes, PMF, is a great option, as it is, I bet it will be a close race between the frame rusting and the wood rotting, lol...
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Where'd you get the $30 spare? I can't find one for that price.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01AF4IKQQ/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
here is a link for $40. it includes amazon prime. you can usually get it for less without the prime. Walmart and Homedepot have it for less that $30 in the stores that carry it.
Thanks man. My old trailer had 4 lug wheels, so I can't use the spare from there. Haven't been able to find any 12 x 4.80 rim/wheel below $40 so far, but I'll have a look in Walmart next time I'm in one that sells tires.
Do I need to register and license plate this trailer
Patrick Christensen , in Florida all the trailers have to have a license plate. It’s very easy just take the title to the tag agency pay some money, and you get the license plate. I know in some other states trailers don’t require tags. I guess you just have to check on the Internet what’s specific to your location.
Example: In TN, if the trailer is being towed within the state by a TN tagged vehicle, it doesn't need tags. Applies to utility trailers used for non-commercial enterprise. If towed out of state, tags are required. AZ requires tags but they are for the lifetime of the utility trailer. Other states want registration every year - money to be made.
@@danburch9989 You can get a Maine trailer license by mail. Good in any state, and no inspection required.
That’s funny.
Obviously, it depends on where you live.
Check the laws in your state, man.
Most places, you do have to register.
Five or six years and then dispose? Don't sell it short! I had one of those trailers for 20 years. I'd rust-treat and repaint each spring, maybe every other year. I sold it because I wanted something different. I painted my current Carry-On trailer with Herculiner. Herculiner lasts MUCH longer than spray paint. It's five years old now and cannot see why it won't last 20 years, like the previous model. I'm on the Virginia coast; so, I'm familiar with battling rust. Nice job with the mods! I especially like your tongue box. I may do something similar. I've kept my "strap box" in my car for years. Have a look at my trailer mods at th-cam.com/video/gDvo3jwrZno/w-d-xo.html, if you're interested. Take Care!
Yes, I think if you keep up on the paint/rust conversion/herculiner it will last. I was just saying if you leave it alone outside, it will turn to rust in a few years- and structurally this thing is not over built.
@@johnsciarra - You're right about the structure. It's adequate for its rated job, but nothing more. Thanks for the response and keep up the good work!
Now come modify my 5x8
..be there Sunday!
Your gonna regret the plywood flooring. I used decking Lumber. Its virtually made for being outdoors and with a good stain job every 5 years its now been on my trailer for 22 years.
Bolt it down with carriage bolts at both ends and every cross member.
The eye hooks are useful but again your gonna regret mounting them where you did.
You'll realize this when your wanting to slide a piece of plywood over the rails or something heavy and bulky.
Not to mention my little trailer also doubles as an outside work bench just by angling a piece of plywood over the rails. If your lucky maybe you can use the holes you drilled in your rails as your tie down points but im really against drilling holes in the rails. ( just looks weird to me).
Your box is ok, I just hope you didn't drill holes through the trailer tounge to mount it. (Holes invite rust ) and if you drilled all the way through the tounge, well you weakened the integrity of tounge strength.
So for all you young men out there reading this I hope I've given you a different perspective on how some of these things are really not as good as they seem to be.
Porch decking, no holes drilled in the tounge, nothing protruding up from the rails. Plywood is a waste of time and money. Don't drill holes in the tounge ( not sure he did but just saying) .
Thanks for the comments, I agree with everything you say.
I did the plywood as a example of a low budget/ light weight solution. For the equipment box I did not drill through the tongue, but used a U-bolt to secure it. The same kind I used to secure the spare tire.
As for the ring bolts/eyelet bolts that I attached to the rails, I have found these very handy when securing loads with ratchet straps or bungee cords. They are an easy place to hook onto and they don’t allow the ratchet strap to slide around. If you have to secure a load with five or six ratchet straps/bungees, the eyelets become very handy. Ratchet straps should not be secured around angle iron unto itself as it will abraid the strap, and ruin it.🙂
@@johnsciarra you can buy some D hooks at Harbor freight and bolt them through your floor. Very inexpensive, quite small and out of the way . Just mount them around the edges of the trailer . You'll find it a lot more handy
I used thinner plywood, but stiff. Used u bolts to secure to under rails. Left sides open and used exterior house paint on wood. 11 years old, it needs repainted, but has hauled alot including a hot tub that rode on the side rails.
@@johnt5222 you can stain plywood or use outdoor paint on it but if you lay it down flat, like on a trailer and poke holes in it to use U Bolts to hold it in place (which would start rotting out in 2 years if not sooner) and the sun beating down on it for 11 years you better call the Guinness book of world records unless you kept it in a garage and didn't use it.
Thin plywood ? smh
Maybe you mean 1/4 inch
Can't hear a word you're saying
Better get some hearing aids! :)
Try "D-Rings" Not Strap Things...
...d-rings, strap things, some things.....
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What a nerd. 63k all bought
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Thats bullshit - yeah ok 4x8 treated plywood -But The 1x8 treated wood - BULLSHIT it thick for the 4x8 plywood for one thing And also you have to use a 1x6 Not treated and Not a 1x8 for the side.-----For a 5x8 trailer.....
Mr. About horses, I am just showing you what fit on this trailer, and what was easiest. The side planks were 8 footers, but I think they were 6 inches wide, not one foot. I used what was available at the home center on that day, and tried boards until I found ones that fit. A single sheet of plywood would be best if you could find it in that size.
Who pulled your string Ablut Horses. The man has wonderful ideas. Crawl back In your hole and don't come out till you have something descent to say. You fucking asshole.
@@johnsciarra
After thinking about it a little bit, I guess one thing you could do is run the plywood sideways, and cut to length.
That said, there’s nothing wrong with the way you did it.
What kind of bullshit comment is that?
Who gives a shit if the boards on the sides are slightly thicker?
What the hell difference does that make?
It’s a utility trailer, for God’s sake.
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Spaz?