A Really Tight Curve And New Points! (For The Field Railway)
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- How to make railway points the complicated way : - ) But I got there in the end. Paddling through the mud didn't help either and I'm sure I've lost at least one spanner for ever...
This is all for the charcoal-making plan - setting up the infrastructure is going to take a while yet, but once it's in place things should get much quicker..
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I like the railway drill press!
Right! Make On!
Excellent idea put to work! "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world." - Archimedes a/k/a Tim! 😜
So clever wasn't it!
me too! I've often had to drill sideways into somthing but I can't put much strength behind it because it is at an awkward angle.
Thanks, Ben. Very basic compared to your projects but satisfying none-the-less : - )
This channel is like hidden gem of TH-cam.
Love the creative railway engineering ON A BUDGET you guys are doing!
This is possibly one of the best series on the telly! I am learning and I can't even feel it. What a trickster! Railways are a funny thing, they have been around in the modern form for over 150 years, with points and signals. Brunel had a line running with points switching 2 gauges at a time, 3 rails! It was all figured out on paper. But the big guns can't do it anymore. No new lines and all the old little ones taken up. However, nowadays a champion in a garden can lay more track singlehandedly than CIE! What a world! Excellent! Maybe Prodigious is a better word for it! With a capital P!
I remember seeing catch plates at points when I was a kid, and thinking they looked cool, but having no idea what they did. Thanks, Tim.
Many other TH-camrs would have mad an hour long episode out of this project, but your content is always to the point. No rambling, no timelaps, no annoying music, thank you, keep up the good work 👍
You couldn't have said it better! Tim and Sandra rock!
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Exactly, no annoying music, trains and rails have their own lovely music.That is all we need to hear I guess....and the good explanation, and mud and fixes.
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"In order to improve my railway I first have to expand my railway"
Love it!
Now that you've added the catch rail it's begining to sound like a piece of mainline track with that hissing scrape sound as the flange gets side loaded.
I'm lovin' this ride on the quagmire express!
You have a voice I could listen to all day.
Thanks Tim, it's more difficult and time consuming than I thought, but your knowlege and tinkering always gets you through in the end, and that's why your videos are so interesting to watch!
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TH-cam suggested you as "Model Railway" Content. This is so much cooler than a model railway. Can't wait for more!
You sure do have the mud. I am glad that you were able to make a new switch. I know the feeling of when you go to fix one thing more problem come up. You stuck to it and got the job done. You are so creative. 😀😀😀
I am trying to catch up on all your videos and enjoying all of them. I cannot stop myself smiling while I watch them.😀👍
Possibly my favourite video on TH-cam. I would love build something like this.
They take more time & material but these new points look so much better.
You're rapidly becoming one of my favourite channels. This is all thoroughly ingenious, and I'm loving your approach to problems. It's extremely heartening to see. The new point looks excellent and I look forward to more.
Found this by accident. Easy to understand without being condescending or arrogant. And the problem solving, such as the drill press, were inspired. Love it. Good luck with the build. And the mud.
All the makeshift tools Tim makes are great, I like that mindset.
very talented!
There is quite a large gap in the frog that the wheels have to ride over. You could put a small, moveable piece of rail in that gap for a butter smooth ride.
I love how you make something daunting, like building a railway network, seem accessible for an average guy.
I really like the new switch. You probably could mess with the frog some more to get it to work smoothly. Don't forget the levers and locking mechanisms for both switches, as they might vibrate out of position when your rolling multiple cars across them.
A bit late for now, but you may want to get a pipe bending press in case you have to make any more curved sections of angle iron. My dad has one (I really don't know why, to be honest), so I know they're not that expensive. And they work just like a bottle jack, so you don't need any special setups in the shop. You could even use it in that muddy field. Maybe something for the future.
Locking mechanism would be a weight on the lever traditionally
@@the_retag Usually it's just a pin or some keyed mechanism that releases when a lever on the handle is squeezed or depressed before moving the handle to throw the switch.
@@jackielinde7568 yeah, that also works. I was mostly talking about german switches that simply have a big weight on the lever just below where you grip it at the top, still fairly easy to move on the hinge, but the weight that has to be moved and lifted keeps the lever from passing the highest point in the middle on its own. Also once you have passed that point the swith basically falls into place. Added bonus is no extra moving parts
Those bending tools would be called scrolling spanners or scroll forks
We mostly call them bending forks in the North American blacksmithing community. There are plenty of names for that type of tool though, all are perfectly valid.
I've always been confused by points and switches but the way you built them has helped my understanding a bit, nice job
gotta love how the man is just unbending steel with 4 bolts and two pipes. amazing
Shims, straps, jigs and clamps, you sure know how to extend the reach of your two hands!
I think this looks much better than the other point. Ok, more material is needed but the wagon drive smother over the points. I hope you build more of this points for the rest of the route.
I keep watching Tim and Sandra because I keep learning things that I would never come across in real life. :)
Greetings from Shropshire. A brilliant set of new points, you are a genius. I love the "low budget ethos", far more interesting when you make it all yourself, rather than just installing bought in rails, wheels etc..
Working in all that mud would wage a psychological warfare on me. Good job overcoming it, and making a really fun, and completely functional RR Tim!
I love the creative solutions like the sideways drill machine and the bendy bars! I'm learning a lot from you. Thank you!
Absolutely fantastic. I was transfixed and could not stop watching. WELL DONE MATE
Glad you enjoyed it : - )
New tool: called a bending fork in blacksmith shops in the US. We use them a lot for both hot- and cold-bending. Great videos!
A tractor could not be going through all that mud. This is brilliant!
At 6:30, you literally have the ANVIL CHORUS, as the hammer strikes the steel. And it changes pitch to higher notes!!, so get that sampled on a hard drive, and you can mix up a great tune!!!!!
i can forsee an old ride on mower becoming an engine possibly.. erm maybe... lol .... i love this Tim...Thank you very much ;)
I like the drill squeezing thing; I might steal that idea. Those tools you made are called “bending forks”. The plural of “radius” is “radii”. Nice work.
Wow. So satisfying to see it work in the end. Well done 🌟 seeing all this mud makes a railway seem the only way to get along with it.
It’s so good that you recovered.
Not recovered yet, Silvia - but getting there : - )
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 all the best for you 🌈
And the last comment you said was, "and we're going to build......
My whole family watching all said in unison.... A DIGGER! 🤣 🤣 🤣
Your ingenuity never ceases to impress me, Tim. I like to think that I have a mechanically inclined brain/thought process, but yours is on another level. I love watching your projects whenever they are posted.
Ha! Thanks!
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 How did the Wheels derailed on the Switch Tracks?
First recipe vlog that I have seen, to build your own railway.
That looks like looks like a really good job there Tim. It’s also a fantastic example of why they used mini locos in the ww1 with all the mud
Imagine trying to drag a cart through that
Yes, exactly - a lot of light rail development happened in the First World War. Some still relevant today.
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 Just had real relevance with the upcoming remembrance day, watching your paddling around in that mud
I must think you for the inspiration. I live on a very steep hill ending in water. It is low bank, but it's about 5 ft so it is very difficult to lift boats in and out of the water. Your videos gave me a great idea, I've built a ladder frame out of 2 and 1/2 in pipe that I managed to get from the scrap yard. I took an old boat trailer and removed the tires from the rims. The rims are a perfect fit on the pipe. It has worked out fantastically! I had to anchor a large winch, but I now have rails that split into three, with three separate trailers that live on their own line undercover. When I want to swap which boats are afloat, I just winch the trailer up the track to its parking spot, and roll the other trailer onto the track. I was very stuck on the transitions prior to your video on the same subject. I was able to cut slashes in the pipe when there is a switch, allowing the rim to pass through the slash and onto the separate track. I've lived here quite a long time, and have seen many neighbors attempt various approaches to boat launching. We have very strict laws about what you can put in the water, no concrete. This is now easily the best design on the lagoon. Several neighbors have stopped by to ask how it works, I've been referring them to your videos. I think several of them are going to make a start over the winter. Thought you might like to know that you are inspiring and informing a small island community in the Puget sound. Love the videos!
Excellent! Any videos, Jean-Paul?
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 no sorry. I have a neuromuscular disorder, you would not be able to watch without throwing up.
I'm a volunteer at the railway maintenance department of a standard gauge heritage railway and this is more or less the same way how we build the railway track there. We just use bigger tools and heavier rails and sleepers. Nice video.
Thanks, Floris.
The simple guardrail is so deceptively elegant in practice.
You are a true metalworking artist! That new point looks superb, even if it was more of a faff than the single blade point.
And as for the new tools, especially the drill squashing machine, pure genius!
I use similar bars to that to bend rebar for concrete, amongst other things. We call them hickey bars
Very impressive. That looks like a lot of work, but the kind of work that a person might half-way enjoy.
Bravo!
In the rebar world to bend rebar we call that tool a "hicky" or "hicky bar"
Wow! I do my own points for model railways but this takes it to the whole new level.
Your just so clever. Nothing is beyond you!! 🤩
Thank you for humoring us train nerds with a more conventional Switch, Tim! Always a pleasure to watch =)
The first one was legit, look at some of the slate & mine switches
Things are really comming along well. Great work! :)
I quite like the simplicity of the wheel catch to fix the derailing!
A fab watch, such ingenious solutions. I am drawn to Elon Musk's comment: "One of the biggest mistakes smart engineers make is optimizing a thing that should not exists." But you obviously love it and its a delight to watch. Thanks for sharing!
Ah man, I am in awe of your handiwork!
What fun you have 😊
I will be watching for more.
Amazing. You make it look easy, even though I'm sure it was hours in the shop, drilling holes and fabricating your own tools. Simply amazing!
What a lovely little project! I, at one point, want to do things like this. It all ways seems so fun.
Your straighten tool is just like the tool I used make on jobs to bend wire with, but my handles are of course much shorter. and I weld the bolts to the pipe instead of drilling holes thru the pipe. Been about 10 years since I made one but you definite brought back some old memories here!
Tim is rebooting the industrial Revolution!
This is awesome. I think you should probably stick with the single rail switch for the long stretch of tracks. If you ever have any short turns pop up again, you should probably use the more complex design. You are doing an amazing job and you are doing real working railways justice. I can't wait to see you build a new rail car design.
Wonderful. The first car I made for my railroad was a gondola car precisely because I knew that I would be moving ballast. Still waiting on the second car.
I love watching these.
A friend asked... 'are you going to put a railway in your garden now?' Then realised, I already have one !
The second tool you made to bend the rail back reminded me of a blacksmith's bending fork, but handheld instead of in a hardy hole on the anvil.
Your turnout frog is very similar to streetcar (tram) frogs. They are designed so the car wheels roll through the frog on their flanges to reduce noise and wear. You may want to add a guard rail to the straight side of the turnout, too. When cars are pushed instead of pulled, they will tend to skew at an angle between the rails and can derail on the frog when entering the turnout points-first.
I suppose he could add another rail on the straight, but really the only check rail he needs should be the one on the curve. There’s old army footage where they blew out sections of rail to see how much it took to derail, and the train kept going through some really big gaps
@@andrewreynolds4949 He could also build a self-guarded frog, as is common in American railroad use and eliminate guard rails entirely. However, that might take some advanced engineering to accomplish with simple angle iron shapes.
THIS GUY IS REBUILDING THE GREAT WESTERN RAILWAY ONE PEACE AT A TIME
Love your videos. Thanks for posting this too. Have a nice day now.
Great job, Tim. Good grief, what a muddy mess. I would suggest you put a keeper rail on the straight side as well, just to prevent a derail if you should happen to push one of the cars unevenly through the points.
I doubt he really needs a check rail on the straight, it’s a small enough gap that it doesn’t look to be making a difference
Finally an appropriate use of the TH-cam algorithm! This is great stuff! New subscriber right here!👍
Welcome aboard!
The gadget used to bend rails is called a CROWE. and from it we get the term Crowe bar now meaning any long steel bar
. I used these things as a fettler on the NSW railways as a young bloke just out of school. 1960 seems a long time ago............
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I was wondering how you could bend flat bar steel that much! This helped me, thanks!
These points are absolutely great! If you ever build a loco, you might want to convert old points and build new ones in this style only. Straight curves are really bumpy and poor.
Iam enjoying your projects mixed with humour and common sense. Cheers 🇨🇦
Thank you, James!
Hey Tim,
I just had a couple of ideas for your future locomotive I wanted to share :)
The simplest you could do would be a flat waggon with an engine mounted on it and some sprockets & chain to drive the wheel shafts with.
But another idea would be to find an old ride-on lawnmower or garden tractor and convert it to run on the rails.
And if you go for a gasoline engine, you could convert it to run on wood-gas and build a wood-chip gassifier to fuel the engine, that would then give you free fuel for the locomotive.
I'm also looking forward to see the ballast hopper cart you are planning. Will it have chutes to allow the ballast to both go down the centre of the track and to the sides aswell, or only one of the two?
I bet he could make it work with just an old push mower
@@andrewreynolds4949 perhaps, although I think the engine would be too weak. Especially when it has to move the chip cars around.
@@Gin-toki If a full train of three 1-ton wet chip wagons is about the heaviest it needs to pull, A free secondhand push mower engine can get up to around the same power as the stationary engine, so I think it would be good enough for most everything on this railway
That flat "drill press" you made to drill into the rail is a bomb idea sir. I hope you dont mind if i borrow that idea for my work. Haha
pain in the ass to make the curved turnout for sure, but in the end, i think its very impressive and well worth the effort. That curve will be a point of bragging for years to come!! Great job!! Impressed here in Alabama USA!!
4m25s How come the dragging-through-the-mud did not erase your wax/chalk marks? I was waiting to hear you curse (grin); 9:00 I love the authentic railway sounds of wagons on the move, but there again, this IS an authentic railway; 10:40 "Now I could just use this ..." heralds, as usual, another nail-biting cliff-hanger. Tim. You are a perfect story-teller. Now, I'll just watch one more video, and then I really MUST get back to work. Another wonderful video, as usual. You make me hunger for being outside in mud, in my wellies, ...
Cheers; Chris
I had it the right way up!
I think that’s brilliant Tim, I can appreciate that these points are a lot of extra work but aesthetically pleasing compared to single blade. How about building a “rocker shovel loader” to load your ballast onto your ballast wagon? That would be really cool!!
Yes it would!
It’s amazing that you do this stuff
You sound like a Thomas and Friends narrator and I love it
great demonstration of point fundimentals
Looking forward to see what you come up with in doing a ballast wagon. Great video by the way. Safe travels
8:34 this is one of the things that I feared about with these cheap rails.
I still can't believe that it was possible.
Yes, I'm a little surprised at how well it's all working too : - )
Tim your perseverance has perseverance.
Moving stone……my first thought was a conveyor system powered by your hit n miss engine.
So that generates another thought….
Could the HnM engine drive a cable pulley spool system to pull the carts along the track and back…..instead of a locomotive engine???
I have a long bendy route planned across the fields, so unfortunately a cable pulley system wouldn't work.
Also, it's not a hit and miss engine - it's a diesel so it can't be - I'm learning a lot about all this stuff and usually I'm only half a step ahead of you : - )
Hi, there! That's a very cool thing, the backyard railroad! Now, when I see how muddy is the soil this becomes absolutely clear that you one can do nothing when it's rainy. And only the railroad helps. Good luck to you and your road!
WOW...Excellent Video! Thumbs Up!!!
I'm exited about the next wagon :)
The track tweaking tool is generally referred to as an "F" bar.
One can see how it's called that. "F" ☺
Thanks, Robert. That makes sense.
Love the horizontal drill contraption! Amazing how you find solutions to obstacles, ingenious! Great filming considering the mud
I don't know why am I watching this video, but I love it
I am waiting for the engine to be made soon. I am thinking about making a small set up like yours, to move garden supplies and lumber around my backyard. I am 71yrs old and not get younger! It will stop me from carrying heavy loads. i will make a small electric engine to move a flat cart, a bin cart and a cart with some seats for children/old people. The track will go from my driveway gate, pass my work shed, to my walkway gate on the other side of my house, with a side track for cart storage. I will have storage bins along the track, for composting and covered storage racks for lumber. I might make turn tables on each end of the main line to turn the engine around, (for fun).
Go for it Louis : - )
Fantastic build Tim
Thank you Craig : - )
Fantastic as ever. Well done. The drilling jig is genius.
I saw a comment on a cable drawn system, and in spite of your bendy route rollers could in theory be used, here in California old logging railroads used cable drawn inclines which used all kinds of methods to ensure the cable didn't destroy key infrastructure or itself, that mixed with some trolley car schematics that are popping up into my brain it could be really interesting while impractical and probably over engineered. I think the primary issue with such a plan would be switches if cost was nowhere to be found. Hopefully this provides some inspiration on top of what is already a captivating project. Love the stuff and I'll comment again if I can figure out a cost effective overhead electric system, lol.
Just as amazing as the big lines,all in the backgarden, homemade, like back when it started
What are you going to name your railway? I suggest TMSL. 'Tim's Mud Skipper Line.' I think I may have spent a bit of time laying some of your stone prior to laying the sleepers for easier working conditions. But then I'm just a keyboard observer. Get cracking Tim! I'm waiting for the next video. Great stuff.
Amazing from Japan👍🇯🇵
wish i lived next-door to you big thumbs up keep up the good work
The curves is getting better, great job sir.
Always a thought provoking time - and a good laugh. Tim, you’re a genius!! Les
I’m only adding words here for your TH-cam $$: loved it, amazing.