I really enjoyed this video! I remember standing on the platforms at Ogden in July 1963. I was eleven years old, and we were passing through on the UP City of Los Angeles. We met the City of San Francisco at Ogden, and both trains were so heavy with cars they split the combined train into Sleeping Car and Chair Car sections. We stood on the platforms and watched the shuffling of cars. The Sleeping Car section departed with the Dome Diner and the Dome Lounge, and our Chair Car section followed ten minutes behind, with two Dome Coaches and, of all things, a full-length Milwaukee Road "Super Dome" that served as the Lounge Car. Thanks for the history lesson, as well as the revived memories!
I just came across this video. Very fun to watch! Back in the 1960’s when I was a boy we took the California Zephyr from Oakland to Chicago to visit my grandfather, so I guess I went through this station at some point. A couple years later we took the Santa Fe Super Chief route (City of San Francisco I think) so that went more parallel to Route 66.
Yes you almost made it to the Grand Canyon when you were riding in the super chief. And the zephyr cane through salt lake dissing Ogden by about 35 miles. Came in on the rio grand and headed west on the old WP across the salt flats.
Grew up on the east bench, would ride my bike to the 24th street viaduct to watch the cars couple and depart. I have sooooo much love for the old yard. That was in the 60's.😂😍🤓
Thanks for the informative videos, this oldster likes what you're doing, I wish that I could join in your adventures in railroading. I wish that I could have witnessed those turbine locomotives in action. Next to steam they've got to be the most interesting to see and hear in action. I can just imagine hearing the high pitched whistle of those turbine blades as that power was applied. The power to weight ratio of turbine engines is massive and it's too bad that these locos were so temperamental. Your nostalgic likes are just like mine, the dirty, gritty old days, semaphores, catwalks and all.
Thanks!! I knew karyn was the one when I saw she had a piston in her living room. Me too. Sort of a rat Fink thing. Anyway Rat Fink brought us together and model trains keep it working.
Such a rich history of railroading. Your miss adventures as a youth were fun as well. Now you kids got me watered-up for the show. Seeing the Old Rio Grande on Ogden UT. The layout was similar to the S.P. Yards in So. San Francisco. My Dad would take us, my brother and I, up on the Guadeloupe Hwy. (where the big ending of the car chase in Bullet, occurred.) Pop would get us up high enough so we could look down at the yards. First time I saw a Cab Forward and the big E units was from that spot. Now, you can fact check me and know by 1963-4 the Big Boys had been scrapped. Not so as we saw one on a siding not far from the roundhouse. Can't wait for next week. Greg and Jeanne
Hi! They were pulled out of service in 59. They were held in reserve for years before that. Not sure when each was scrapped but I think at least one was before they were pulled in 59. But as I found out even after. Being pulled from service in 1970 they are still around in 71 stored in the Ogden roundhouse. 2 were still in salt lake until about 1990. And 27 is still there in Ogden. So where were the 8 surviving big boys in the 60s? I watched as 833 was shoved into pioneer park back in about 1970. And moved to Ogden in about 1990. And it was operational in 1970 when it was stuck in the park. And where was it before that? In service only 11 years before. It’s easy to loose “track” of the time line. Not only were Big Boys around they were serviceable. .
Nice video! Those yards remind me of the old Nashville, Chattanooga and Saint Louis headquartered in Nashville. It had its back shop, roundhouse and inbound track on a strip of land west of town in what is today Midtown. Ironically the outbound tracks were in Nashville proper under the gaze of their corporate headquarters. They merged with the Louisville and Nashville in 1956 and the inbound yard and roundhouse caught fire in the 1970s. Now its a techno park for Microsoft and such.
I loved the historic photos and looking at the old rail yards. These industrial places have a certain beauty that it hard to explain. Perhaps the romance of a bygone era. Beautiful video. Thanks for sharing.
FYI. The Layton station was a restaurant for many years until the Front Runner came along. That restaurant moved out and it sat empty for a couple of years. The current restaurant has been there for a few years now. The south end of Layton where the station is has been neglected for many years. It was hoped that the Front Runner would bring business into that part of town. Maybe someday...
Keep watching!! Some fun stuff coming on Fridays 2 spun off if this. Browning and the Lucin cut off. Also the studio of Charlie Chaplin now the muppets studio. And a vanishing airplane factory
Nice video I loved the history of the yards at Ogden with the meeting of the three railroads. I have to agree the turbines are amazing engines and I love watching the old videos of the turbines at work on Sherman Hill. It's too bad that the fuel became too expensive and of the two that are left neither had a turbine engine left in them. I would love to see one run in real life.
That would be amazing. It could be done, the turbines survive and are being taken out of service. But they were not unique to these locomotives. But at gallons per minute to fire one...
I lived in Ventura for 10 years. Well Ojai. And I took that train many times. Your right it’s beautiful. All the way from Santa Barbara to San Diego. The line north (west) from Santa Barbara is also amazing but Amtrak doesn’t go there anymore
I ended up missing the Hostlers show in Ogden this year. I had planned on taking my parents down on Saturday morning, but ended up with my daughter in the hospital Friday night with Appendicitis. But we're already planning on catching the Evanston show later this year. It would be fun to bump into the two of you at one of these. Now I just have to figure out how to catch a view of the 4014 as it comes in May. Oh, the depot in Logan is a restaurant now as well, Cafe Sabor. Pretty good food there.
I was going to attend to view Wasatch N Scale Model Railroaders. One of the astronomy club guys, Mr Goodman, displays at this event. Sorry I missed a good one, Nate. Dumb, dumb, dumb, I stayed home and watched cooking shows. All in preparation for a new induction cooker. Thank you, Dale and Kathryn for giving me a view of what I missed...at some point in the future. I wanted to go to the train show. Next week.
always good to see the history of this line the shops in Salt Lake, Grant Interlocking, The Old Depot, Union Station, and The Yards of North Ogden amazing stuff.
Incredible video. Love the old photos and history of the railroad in Utah. You provide so much information, your vids need to viewed twice to grasp everything!! Glad you got to take a train to take a train to take a train to the train museum!
We look forward to it every year. And the train ride. I used to ride the train to Saltair resort on the great Salt Lake. Reminds me of that. And I get to share it with Karyn. And all of you. That’s the best part.
Here in Fort Wayne, Indiana, an American Legion post had one of those French Boxcars on display outside of their property for years. The American Legion moved away to new quarters years ago, and I don't know whatever happened to the boxcar.
A few have been junked. But if the 49 I think about 43 are around. This one was in “Memory Grove” in Salt Lake City until it was almost destroyed by an EF 3 tornado in about 99. Then it was rebuilt and brought to Ogden.
hey guys! love the video and most of all I learn so much i may be 55 but like y'all I'm one of the biggest kids and Fan's of the Union Pacific history take care and keep screwing around 😉
Gunny! I love the Union Pacific and it’s amazing history. Not a lot of people think about what happened after they drove to Golden Spike and just how those two railroads manage to interchange with each other for a brief period of time moving all of the goods of the West Coast to the East Coast. This was quite a place
Wow I knew about the Southern Pacific Causeway across the lake I know you peas tearing that up right now I'm not exactly sure if they're even running trains over the causeway anymore but I've never seen it the map of where the original Promontory Summit line went to I just knew of the causeway you're showing so much awesome railroad history in my state stuff I never seen before thank you so much I graciously appreciate this video all these things in the past I've never seen but they're awesome thank you so much peace out have a great day
Austin Glines the causeway is still used. UP has maintained it and it carries the larger part of the traffic west, while traffic to So Cal goes to Salt Lake and south.
Yes they’ve been ripping up the old wood trestle for decades. But the causeway right next to that is in good shape and still use daily. For what it’s worth we’re off in southern Utah right now looking for some of the salvaged redwood from the trestle.
Hi Guys: Another wonderful adventure that you're sharing with us. Also, love the way you both have the same Tees. Nice. Great history lesson -- loved the old photos and the "hand pointer" to location your described points of interest. Thanks for sharing. - Dean from cold Minnesota
Hope it’s warm and up there. It’s really warming up here which is why it’s now flooding. Not flooding badly but it has created this amazing waterfall out in the desert. So of course we climbed in the car and headed out to see it. It’s quite amazing not a train but incredible
WOW again to my favourite Sunday Evening programme - as your videos are so brilliant ans give me often a good inspiration to run my operational sessions on my US layout, wich in fact is based on the pc programme called trainz. But believe it or not, i have basically every train running here, which are displayed on your films. Anyway, looking forward to part 2 and keep up the good work. Gereetings from Hilden/Düsseldorf - Germany - Ulli
I’ve seen That program around. Looks like fun! Surprisingly large number of people doing that. I have a hard time figuring out what to model as I look it all. Undaunted I just try to model everything
I am going to keep this simple, Wow!!!..I loved this video, seeing all of that vintage railroad stuff sitting in the yards just makes me want to go out and find some of that stuff hiding here on the East Coast. Thanks for a great video.
Merci box car. (thank you boxcar). Most survive. Each af the 48 states got one as did Hawaii which was not a state at the time but they wanted one there because that’s where America entered WW 2.
It’s a really fun episode. Need to hurry back to Salt Lake and finish it too! We found out there was a waterfall flowing out in the desert because the snow was melting so we had to go see
I just love your videos. You feel like family we haven't met yet. Looking forward to part II. Hit us up if you're ever in San Francisco.They're a couple years out from electrifying the SF/San Jose route. They're using FPH40's and BMP36"s right now. They're is also a UP branch line with some GP-38 and 40's. On Thursday & Friday you can usually catch Mainline 6 axle units picking up the week's load and dropping empties. Caltrain also operates two SW1500 switchers. Have a fantastic week.
Thanks for the history of the Ogden train yards. While I'm not as sentamental as you are, I do like to here about the history of areas and how they have changed over the years. Karyn's train set is way cool. Looks like it's in a match box. It's the tinyest one I've ever seen.
Are you making plans for the NMRA Convention this July in SLC? Check on their web sight for updates as plans are being made for several Railroad tours along with trips to Promontory SUMMIT!
I am feeling a little disappointed with myself for NOT knowing there was soooo much to see in UTAH. I hope I will be able to capture a good lot of it on the Brief stay in May! Hope I will get to meet you guys. I will be in Salt Lake on the 4th of May. I will send through a few more pickies by email soon. Cheerio Adrian
Enjoyed your history of the Salt Lake Intermodal Hub--I've spent more time than I care to think about, much of it after dark and in the winter, waiting for the FrontRunner or Amtrak there. Also, if you're looking for a longer train trip, I recommend the Southwest Chief between Albuquerque and La Junta, Colorado, while the semaphores and searchlight signals are still in active use. (I realize this trip is a bit out of the way from Salt Lake City, but still, it's worth it!)
@@ToyManTelevision I love your videos, and one of my favorite part, is your choice in soundtracks. If i havent subscribed then i am sure to do it now! Keep up the great content.
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I was at a train swap meet on Saturday. They were giving away free copies of old magazines. I picked up several copies of Railroad Model Craftsman. One of them was an a review written by Don Mitchell of Steve Strebel's layout. What a HOOT!
Wow that is so awesome that you're showing me the history of the 4th South yard I've gone railfanning there and their grad Tower all my life I never knew what it looked like in the past I'm a huge Rio Grande fan I love Rio Grande it's in very awesome railroad I wish it still existed I had no idea that's what that area look like back in the day thank you for showing me those photographs I graciously appreciate it after all the railroad mergers where S P & W P & D & R G W are all a part of Union Pacific now I never knew what it look like when there was all that interchange action back in the day it is so awesome to see that thank you so much peace out have a great day
Did you notice the Rio Grande Heritage diesel for a split second outside the window of the light rail train? Had no idea it was out there and when I was looking at video for just a half a second you see it in the window
The Ogden Roundhouse i believe was lost due to neglect and heavy snow storms. And after the roof collapse during the winter I think there was a fire in the following spring or fall due to lightning. They scraped the roundhouse about 2 years after the fire after mergers and the state being fed up with the eye sore.
Since Karyn loves N scale so much why don't you guys stop by the Wasatch N scale layout at the National Train Show in July and we'll let her run a train or two around. I guess we can let Dale run one also :)
Back in the day in 1997 I actually got on the Amtrak at the Rio Grande train station when I was a kid I want to see my great grandma in Washington State it's back when they still have the Amtrak going over Donner Pass I got to go over Donner Pass on the Amtrak and it was amazing and that's where I got on the train is the Rio Grande train station it's such a shame and pathetic that Utah made it to where none of the awesome railroad stations that still exist have any tracks are any ways to get on a train I think that was a bad move on their part it's sad to see that Utah Salt Lake City doesn't have an awesome historical prominent railway station that still operates thank you for the video peace out have a great day
It’s nice that both of the original station survive and are being well taken care of. It’s a darn shame you don’t want to use this train stations or even have track going to them.
Great video! I'm looking forward to part two. Love the history, the old photos, and how you tie it all seemlessly together. Edit; I loved Karyns train set! It was cool, no matter the size, big or small. 😁
Have fun guys, in Albuquerque we have one of the last ATSF steam locomotive shops still standing and stable. Are there any more operational turbines still?
Nope. Two of the turbines survive the one here in Ogden and one at the Illinois railway museum in Chicago. The prime movers were removed from all of the turbines and sold to South America to using power plants. Two of them used to be stored on the team track in Salt Lake City as they never got sold. All long gone now. Ralph Govhnour who modeled the UP not sure if you seen that show, modeled those two prime movers under a tarp in his HO scale locomotive shop! And he’s got one on the ground outside the Andrew shop as though it’s being worked on.
As a Flatlander living in Kansas, Im jealous of all the view you have in the Rocky Mountains. I, for someone who loves using trains, trams, and other locomotives as public transportation, love that you get to use them as such. Also, did your parents, maybe your dad, work in the railroads when you were younger?
Nope. I had a Uncle at penn Central and he got me into some grand places. But for some reason I’ve always loved trains. My aunt did live on the east side of the UP yard in Salt Lake City and her mother lived on the west side of the yard. So we crossed the many tracks. And I loved to see them switch the yards.
you should of had a overhead pic of what it looks like NOW! there are about 4 missing Merci boxcars! the stuffs I like to look for at train shows is Tyco!
The Big Blow's would be better if the diesel engine itself were actually contributional. On the one coal turbine that existed, the ALCO PA-1's engine actually contributed to the 5000 something ponies.
Absolutely! At some point in time we are going to do it out there. No idea win. We just make things up as we go along, whatever strikes your fancy we go do. But that’s high on the list
Wow! I never knew all that about the ogden yard! Incredible, I do have a friend that works at the UTA shops and I can get you in there if you would like
Brian Kelleher this looks like a MofW materials yard now. There has been no sign of turntable, pit, roundhouse, or,shop for years. When I was there in the early 80's it was already long gone. The old SP table location can be identified, but the table is got and the pit filled.
As always that poor little guy is complicated. Adam Panellus is been featured on the channel here a few times as considered taking the project over and hiring a locomotive builder in Las Vegas to simply finish it. Tender is all damn cab is all done but major problems with the frame side roads in boiler
@@ToyManTelevision Was wondering. I was involved in the restoration of TVRR #1 in Fairbanks Alaska and it took us 10 years to raise the money and do the work. Hadn't been any news on 223 in a long time and was curious.
We are just coming back from looking at a spontaneous waterfall that formed from melting snow on the Utah Arizona border in the red rocks. So much for dry!
Yes. I strongly suspect they were internal politics in the group that wanted to tear the building down won. But it was going to be very expensive to restore. So even though the project was approved one day they just started tearing it down
Man, thats another huge piece of history lost. Shame that they tore it down, had some intetesting forms of utilitarianism and industrial architecture! I think a couple of months ago Union Pacific tore down the last parts of the Southern Pacific's Diesel and Car Shops, which itself dated to the 1870s and used to service the steam engines in the Oakland Yard too.
Love that locomotive. Well turbines. Not just 26. It’s just that it’s one of two left in the world. I’ve seen many. But never saw one running. Too bad! But I did see many of them before they were scrapped.
That was really awesome, however if they don't start hitting the rust and fixing some of those engines up. the rust is gonna have it that those engines are not around anymore. they really need to start doing some repair and upkeep on them. as it will be a shame if they have to send them to a scrap yard as they are beyond repair.
Really. So few involved anymore and little money. Looks like a junk yard. And I only showed the good stuff! They have more stashed somewhere else. Even worse.
Hi! Wasatch. Also spelled Wahatch. . The Paiute name of the mountains. Utah means “mountain top”. Pronounced wa sach. We did a show on the old tracks and water tower on the UP at the ghost town of Wahatch. It’s the summit of the UP line up Weber and Echo canyons. Just below Evanston. The plan was to build the helper engine shops there but the winter wind caused them to abandon it and build at Evanston instead.
I really enjoyed this video! I remember standing on the platforms at Ogden in July 1963. I was eleven years old, and we were passing through on the UP City of Los Angeles. We met the City of San Francisco at Ogden, and both trains were so heavy with cars they split the combined train into Sleeping Car and Chair Car sections. We stood on the platforms and watched the shuffling of cars. The Sleeping Car section departed with the Dome Diner and the Dome Lounge, and our Chair Car section followed ten minutes behind, with two Dome Coaches and, of all things, a full-length Milwaukee Road "Super Dome" that served as the Lounge Car. Thanks for the history lesson, as well as the revived memories!
Great memories. Shame so many are lost and forgotten. But the great memories are Precious
I just came across this video. Very fun to watch! Back in the 1960’s when I was a boy we took the California Zephyr from Oakland to Chicago to visit my grandfather, so I guess I went through this station at some point. A couple years later we took the Santa Fe Super Chief route (City of San Francisco I think) so that went more parallel to Route 66.
Yes you almost made it to the Grand Canyon when you were riding in the super chief. And the zephyr cane through salt lake dissing Ogden by about 35 miles. Came in on the rio grand and headed west on the old WP across the salt flats.
Grew up on the east bench, would ride my bike to the 24th street viaduct to watch the cars couple and depart. I have sooooo much love for the old yard. That was in the 60's.😂😍🤓
I started at Weber state in 71. And headed for the roundhouse. However I had been there before
Another fun video. In 1980 I visited a Ogden and was amazed by the railroad activity I encountered there.
It was a busy place. Still is but nothing like it was.
Thanks for the informative videos, this oldster likes what you're doing, I wish that I could join in your adventures in railroading. I wish that I could have witnessed those turbine locomotives in action. Next to steam they've got to be the most interesting to see and hear in action. I can just imagine hearing the high pitched whistle of those turbine blades as that power was applied. The power to weight ratio of turbine engines is massive and it's too bad that these locos were so temperamental. Your nostalgic likes are just like mine, the dirty, gritty old days, semaphores, catwalks and all.
Sad none of the turbines still run. And only 2 survivors. The film on these is amazing. But they burned several gallons of oil per minute. So geeeez.
@@ToyManTelevision , Turbines will suck up some fuel, but at that time fuel was dirt cheap. It was a great engineering study even if it had its flaws.
As a married couple involved in this hobby, you guys are just tooo kool!.
Thanks!! I knew karyn was the one when I saw she had a piston in her living room. Me too. Sort of a rat Fink thing. Anyway Rat Fink brought us together and model trains keep it working.
Such a rich history of railroading. Your miss adventures as a youth were fun as well. Now you kids got me watered-up for the show. Seeing the Old Rio Grande on Ogden UT. The layout was similar to the S.P. Yards in So. San Francisco. My Dad would take us, my brother and I, up on the Guadeloupe Hwy. (where the big ending of the car chase in Bullet, occurred.) Pop would get us up high enough so we could look down at the yards. First time I saw a Cab Forward and the big E units was from that spot. Now, you can fact check me and know by 1963-4 the Big Boys had been scrapped. Not so as we saw one on a siding not far from the roundhouse. Can't wait for next week. Greg and Jeanne
Hi! They were pulled out of service in 59. They were held in reserve for years before that. Not sure when each was scrapped but I think at least one was before they were pulled in 59. But as I found out even after. Being pulled from service in 1970 they are still around in 71 stored in the Ogden roundhouse. 2 were still in salt lake until about 1990. And 27 is still there in Ogden. So where were the 8 surviving big boys in the 60s? I watched as 833 was shoved into pioneer park back in about 1970. And moved to Ogden in about 1990. And it was operational in 1970 when it was stuck in the park. And where was it before that? In service only 11 years before. It’s easy to loose “track” of the time line. Not only were Big Boys around they were serviceable. .
Nice video! Those yards remind me of the old Nashville, Chattanooga and Saint Louis headquartered in Nashville. It had its back shop, roundhouse and inbound track on a strip of land west of town in what is today Midtown. Ironically the outbound tracks were in Nashville proper under the gaze of their corporate headquarters. They merged with the Louisville and Nashville in 1956 and the inbound yard and roundhouse caught fire in the 1970s. Now its a techno park for Microsoft and such.
So few roundhouses left. Some great ones. But even visiting the place where they were.
I loved the historic photos and looking at the old rail yards. These industrial places have a certain beauty that it hard to explain. Perhaps the romance of a bygone era. Beautiful video. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks. Really love getting back to this time and place. I lived there in 1971. Then I moved to Paris. Hum... weird juxtaposition there.
Love the old photos and all the info, you kid's rock.
Thanks. Now the rest of the story
FYI. The Layton station was a restaurant for many years until the Front Runner came along. That restaurant moved out and it sat empty for a couple of years. The current restaurant has been there for a few years now. The south end of Layton where the station is has been neglected for many years. It was hoped that the Front Runner would bring business into that part of town. Maybe someday...
Wanted to eat there then it was closed. Now back in a big way. Hate to see the road so close. But still it’s cool.
Nice seeing Toy Man again!
Keep watching!! Some fun stuff coming on Fridays 2 spun off if this. Browning and the Lucin cut off. Also the studio of Charlie Chaplin now the muppets studio. And a vanishing airplane factory
Nice video I loved the history of the yards at Ogden with the meeting of the three railroads. I have to agree the turbines are amazing engines and I love watching the old videos of the turbines at work on Sherman Hill. It's too bad that the fuel became too expensive and of the two that are left neither had a turbine engine left in them. I would love to see one run in real life.
That would be amazing. It could be done, the turbines survive and are being taken out of service. But they were not unique to these locomotives. But at gallons per minute to fire one...
If you’re going to go to California again, you should go on Amtrak between Ventura and Santa Barbara because it is all alongside the Pacific Ocean!
I lived in Ventura for 10 years. Well Ojai. And I took that train many times. Your right it’s beautiful. All the way from Santa Barbara to San Diego. The line north (west) from Santa Barbara is also amazing but Amtrak doesn’t go there anymore
Cool I been to Ogden Utah back in August 2022 the Utah State railroad museum was pretty fun
It’s a really good museum! They’re making some big changes up there and I sure hope they don’t screw up the museum
I ended up missing the Hostlers show in Ogden this year. I had planned on taking my parents down on Saturday morning, but ended up with my daughter in the hospital Friday night with Appendicitis. But we're already planning on catching the Evanston show later this year. It would be fun to bump into the two of you at one of these. Now I just have to figure out how to catch a view of the 4014 as it comes in May.
Oh, the depot in Logan is a restaurant now as well, Cafe Sabor. Pretty good food there.
The Hostlers shows are the best. Sounds like a quick trip to Logan!
Great old photos! Thanks, Dale! Love Karyn's mini train set!
That is one nifty “cute” train set. 1/600 scale. We are looking at a 1/1000 scale that runs!!!
Awesome, great history, thank you for sharing !!!!!
Thanks for watching
I was going to attend to view Wasatch N Scale Model Railroaders. One of the astronomy club guys, Mr Goodman, displays at this event. Sorry I missed a good one, Nate. Dumb, dumb, dumb, I stayed home and watched cooking shows. All in preparation for a new induction cooker.
Thank you, Dale and Kathryn for giving me a view of what I missed...at some point in the future.
I wanted to go to the train show. Next week.
Well don’t miss the upcoming NMRA show!! That’s a must see. Set the DVR if need be.
always good to see the history of this line the shops in Salt Lake, Grant Interlocking, The Old Depot, Union Station, and The Yards of North Ogden amazing stuff.
I loved both parts guys!! Great info and products and Hiawathas!- Joey
Great train show every year. But this year was great!!!
Cabeese! I like it. Strasburg Pa area has a Cabeese hotel,you can sleep on them overnight. Stayed there as a kid, well still one,lol.
Never done that. Seen it but not sure how comfortable it is. Bet we do it
At some point
Incredible video. Love the old photos and history of the railroad in Utah. You provide so much information, your vids need to viewed twice to grasp everything!! Glad you got to take a train to take a train to take a train to the train museum!
We look forward to it every year. And the train ride. I used to ride the train to Saltair resort on the great Salt Lake. Reminds me of that. And I get to share it with Karyn. And all of you. That’s the best part.
Thanks guys! Missed seeing you ( there were so many people) great job on the history, brings back so many memories.
We talked to sooo many people. But the show is like 40,000 square feet in 5 big rooms.
Here in Fort Wayne, Indiana, an American Legion post had one of those French Boxcars on display outside of their property for years. The American Legion moved away to new quarters years ago, and I don't know whatever happened to the boxcar.
A few have been junked. But if the 49 I think about 43 are around. This one was in “Memory Grove” in Salt Lake City until it was almost destroyed by an EF 3 tornado in about 99. Then it was rebuilt and brought to Ogden.
hey guys! love the video and most of all I learn so much i may be 55 but like y'all I'm one of the biggest kids and Fan's of the Union Pacific history take care and keep screwing around 😉
Gunny! I love the Union Pacific and it’s amazing history. Not a lot of people think about what happened after they drove to Golden Spike and just how those two railroads manage to interchange with each other for a brief period of time moving all of the goods of the West Coast to the East Coast. This was quite a place
if I had grown up seeing what you saw growing up, I'd a never would have went home!
Wow I knew about the Southern Pacific Causeway across the lake I know you peas tearing that up right now I'm not exactly sure if they're even running trains over the causeway anymore but I've never seen it the map of where the original Promontory Summit line went to I just knew of the causeway you're showing so much awesome railroad history in my state stuff I never seen before thank you so much I graciously appreciate this video all these things in the past I've never seen but they're awesome thank you so much peace out have a great day
Austin Glines the causeway is still used. UP has maintained it and it carries the larger part of the traffic west, while traffic to So Cal goes to Salt Lake and south.
Yes they’ve been ripping up the old wood trestle for decades. But the causeway right next to that is in good shape and still use daily. For what it’s worth we’re off in southern Utah right now looking for some of the salvaged redwood from the trestle.
That also was the EIMCO bldg. Used to p/up for Roadway there
My friend’s dad worked there. Crazy founders!
Hi Guys: Another wonderful adventure that you're sharing with us. Also, love the way you both have the same Tees. Nice. Great history lesson -- loved the old photos and the "hand pointer" to location your described points of interest. Thanks for sharing. - Dean from cold Minnesota
Hope it’s warm and up there. It’s really warming up here which is why it’s now flooding. Not flooding badly but it has created this amazing waterfall out in the desert. So of course we climbed in the car and headed out to see it. It’s quite amazing not a train but incredible
What great historical photos you include in this video! Dale and Karyn have too much fun! . . . Almost. ;-)
Off looking at a random waterfall right now. Flooding has created an amazing waterfall. The good part of flooding
WOW again to my favourite Sunday Evening programme - as your videos are so brilliant ans give me often a good inspiration to run my operational sessions on my US layout, wich in fact is based on the pc programme called trainz. But believe it or not, i have basically every train running here, which are displayed on your films. Anyway, looking forward to part 2 and keep up the good work. Gereetings from Hilden/Düsseldorf - Germany - Ulli
I’ve seen That program around. Looks like fun! Surprisingly large number of people doing that. I have a hard time figuring out what to model as I look it all. Undaunted I just try to model everything
If you are interested, i send you a few usefull links :-)
AWESOME photos THANK you guys for sharing. Karyn love the mini train set!
Love the little train set. Karyn says it cute. Yup. Cute.
Every body ready for the big boy I am great video
Soon. So close to firing the boiler
Such great information and stories you share. Thank you!
Thanks for watching
Such great videos, so informational so well done. Now I want to go. Thanks for all you do
Thanks. This is our favorite train show. And the Evanston show which not at all surprisingly is also put on by the hostlers. .
I am going to keep this simple, Wow!!!..I loved this video, seeing all of that vintage railroad stuff sitting in the yards just makes me want to go out and find some of that stuff hiding here on the East Coast. Thanks for a great video.
Love the old photos. Having been there it’s even better. Amazing to see and great memories. I can hear and smell it. Time travel in the mind...
Thanks, folks, for yet another GREAT vid combining rail history west with a great train show! I love it! a
My wife and I did the NYC to Bakersfield CA non stop on the train, 5 days. It was amazing!
Neat train set.
Normally I don’t use the “cute” word but in this case it fits.
The one in Arizona is covered and in really good shape. (Post WWII - French Boxcar - Yes, it is what ever you called it.)
Merci box car. (thank you boxcar). Most survive. Each af the 48 states got one as did Hawaii which was not a state at the time but they wanted one there because that’s where America entered WW 2.
Nice bit of excellent history Dale. Great video as always. .
Welcome to the UP, where even the cranes have tenders.
Great video folks, throughly enjoyed as usual.
Looking forward to part 2 next week 👍👍👍😎😎😎
It’s a really fun episode. Need to hurry back to Salt Lake and finish it too! We found out there was a waterfall flowing out in the desert because the snow was melting so we had to go see
I just love your videos. You feel like family we haven't met yet. Looking forward to part II. Hit us up if you're ever in San Francisco.They're a couple years out from electrifying the SF/San Jose route. They're using FPH40's and BMP36"s right now. They're is also a UP branch line with some GP-38 and 40's. On Thursday & Friday you can usually catch Mainline 6 axle units picking up the week's load and dropping empties. Caltrain also operates two SW1500 switchers. Have a fantastic week.
Very good show as always
We’re coming up that way for the Narrowgauge convention. No plans beyond that just to come to Sacramento for the narrow gauge convention.
Great video guys, one of your best. Love how you make history so fascinating, I will be watching this many more times.
Thanks for watching. Love telling these stories
Thanks for the history of the Ogden train yards. While I'm not as sentamental as you are, I do like to here about the history of areas and how they have changed over the years. Karyn's train set is way cool. Looks like it's in a match box. It's the tinyest one I've ever seen.
Yup. 1/600 scale! We are looking into a 1/1000 scale that runs!!!!
8:12 oddly enough, there’s the UP’s Rio Grande heritage unit.
It flashes by for a split second!
good eye.
Are you making plans for the NMRA Convention this July in SLC? Check on their web sight for updates as plans are being made for several Railroad tours along with trips to Promontory SUMMIT!
Yes!! Big plans! Much happing.
Great video, I particularly enjoyed the historical photos.
Awesome video guys! Thumbs up! Greetings from Poland :)
Hi! Hope things are well there. Flooding here. The good part of that is an amazing waterfall has appeared for now. So we took off to go see it.
I am feeling a little disappointed with myself for NOT knowing there was soooo much to see in UTAH. I hope I will be able to capture a good lot of it on the Brief stay in May! Hope I will get to meet you guys. I will be in Salt Lake on the 4th of May. I will send through a few more pickies by email soon. Cheerio Adrian
Big party! Not much left. But great to see where it was even if it’s gone.
That's great historical information. Maybe someday you can pack up the car and drive to other cities and make a video on their railroad history?
Not as often as we like but we do get out there. This summer is filling up fast. Really want to get to Pennsylvania
God I love they video I hope you never stop making them please keep them coming they always make my day
Be sure to watch tomorrow’s show on Nevada Northern 81 and it’s really good
I watched that whole thing through and it was good.
Thanks for watching we had a lot of fun doing it
wow...answered my question! thats cool!
Always try. Sometimes even get the answer right! Well now and then.
Enjoyed your history of the Salt Lake Intermodal Hub--I've spent more time than I care to think about, much of it after dark and in the winter, waiting for the FrontRunner or Amtrak there.
Also, if you're looking for a longer train trip, I recommend the Southwest Chief between Albuquerque and La Junta, Colorado, while the semaphores and searchlight signals are still in active use. (I realize this trip is a bit out of the way from Salt Lake City, but still, it's worth it!)
Hum. Sound good. Love to see the signaling
20:48 "No DCC... Deal with it" priceless
We look at that lady’s great stuff next Sunday. Geeeeezzzz. She has a D and RGW ditcher......
@@ToyManTelevision I love your videos, and one of my favorite part, is your choice in soundtracks. If i havent subscribed then i am sure to do it now! Keep up the great content.
AWESOME GOOD VIDEO VERY INTERESTING AND INFORMATIVE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME HAVE A GOOD DAY BE SAFE AND CAREFUL YOU BOTH JIM KAMMERER OF PHILADELPHIA PA THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SCREWING AROUND TIME SHARED. 😁👍👍👍👍
one of the renescans cars from franc is sitting up in the green bay museum
Most survive. Most states have one. Somewhere
Happy St. Patrick's Day Toy Man Television.
I was at a train swap meet on Saturday. They were giving away free copies of old magazines. I picked up several copies of Railroad Model Craftsman. One of them was an a review written by Don Mitchell of Steve Strebel's layout. What a HOOT!
@eclemensen It was September 1991
Wow that is so awesome that you're showing me the history of the 4th South yard I've gone railfanning there and their grad Tower all my life I never knew what it looked like in the past I'm a huge Rio Grande fan I love Rio Grande it's in very awesome railroad I wish it still existed I had no idea that's what that area look like back in the day thank you for showing me those photographs I graciously appreciate it after all the railroad mergers where S P & W P & D & R G W are all a part of Union Pacific now I never knew what it look like when there was all that interchange action back in the day it is so awesome to see that thank you so much peace out have a great day
Did you notice the Rio Grande Heritage diesel for a split second outside the window of the light rail train? Had no idea it was out there and when I was looking at video for just a half a second you see it in the window
The Ogden Roundhouse i believe was lost due to neglect and heavy snow storms. And after the roof collapse during the winter I think there was a fire in the following spring or fall due to lightning. They scraped the roundhouse about 2 years after the fire after mergers and the state being fed up with the eye sore.
Yeah it looks like fire damage. No doubt arson after how does a structure without electricity catch fire and burn up? Maybe I'm wrong too.
Interesting but the part of the building left standing is all steel. So even the archways and somethings were blocked out of ironwork.
Since Karyn loves N scale so much why don't you guys stop by the Wasatch N scale layout at the National Train Show in July and we'll let her run a train or two around. I guess we can let Dale run one also :)
Plan!!!! We usually say hi to Bob and Karin. Put some water in that river!!! And yup see you there.
Back in the day in 1997 I actually got on the Amtrak at the Rio Grande train station when I was a kid I want to see my great grandma in Washington State it's back when they still have the Amtrak going over Donner Pass I got to go over Donner Pass on the Amtrak and it was amazing and that's where I got on the train is the Rio Grande train station it's such a shame and pathetic that Utah made it to where none of the awesome railroad stations that still exist have any tracks are any ways to get on a train I think that was a bad move on their part it's sad to see that Utah Salt Lake City doesn't have an awesome historical prominent railway station that still operates thank you for the video peace out have a great day
It’s nice that both of the original station survive and are being well taken care of. It’s a darn shame you don’t want to use this train stations or even have track going to them.
Love your video's keep it up 👍
Great video! I'm looking forward to part two.
Love the history, the old photos, and how you tie it all seemlessly together.
Edit; I loved Karyns train set! It was cool, no matter the size, big or small. 😁
Love the little train set!! We are looking at a smaller one 1/1000 scale that runs!!!
Love it!
Thanks. Now the rest of the story
Have you ever thought of getting a drone? You could get some cool footage with that and film places that are off limit to foot traffic.
Yes. We were talking about that today. Saw a guy with one yesterday
A friend has a Mavic. Seems like a good one.
Thanks
Thanks for watching
Have fun guys, in Albuquerque we have one of the last ATSF steam locomotive shops still standing and stable. Are there any more operational turbines still?
Nope. Two of the turbines survive the one here in Ogden and one at the Illinois railway museum in Chicago. The prime movers were removed from all of the turbines and sold to South America to using power plants. Two of them used to be stored on the team track in Salt Lake City as they never got sold. All long gone now. Ralph Govhnour who modeled the UP not sure if you seen that show, modeled those two prime movers under a tarp in his HO scale locomotive shop! And he’s got one on the ground outside the Andrew shop as though it’s being worked on.
As a Flatlander living in Kansas, Im jealous of all the view you have in the Rocky Mountains.
I, for someone who loves using trains, trams, and other locomotives as public transportation, love that you get to use them as such.
Also, did your parents, maybe your dad, work in the railroads when you were younger?
Nope. I had a
Uncle at penn Central and he got me into some grand places. But for some reason I’ve always loved trains. My aunt did live on the east side of the UP yard in Salt Lake City and her mother lived on the west side of the yard. So we crossed the many tracks. And I loved to see them switch the yards.
I'm looking into getting an HO scale Big Boy for my birthday this year
Coolest. The Rivarossi?
you should of had a overhead pic of what it looks like NOW!
there are about 4 missing Merci boxcars!
the stuffs I like to look for at train shows is Tyco!
Like to fly a drone but UP is not keen on it.
noooo Well always Google Earth alt least
I've actually seen the other 8500 GTEL, it's in Union Illinois.
The Big Blow's would be better if the diesel engine itself were actually contributional. On the one coal turbine that existed, the ALCO PA-1's engine actually contributed to the 5000 something ponies.
Toy Man next month is the return of 844 and soon the big boy will whistle he is back
Yup!!!! 4014 is so close to firing.
Have you any plans for the Henry Ford museum? Talk about a guy that like to screw around! Great video by the way.
Absolutely! At some point in time we are going to do it out there. No idea win. We just make things up as we go along, whatever strikes your fancy we go do. But that’s high on the list
Wow! I never knew all that about the ogden yard! Incredible, I do have a friend that works at the UTA shops and I can get you in there if you would like
Really love to do that. All 3 shops but mostly the old UP and the old Rio Grande shop.
@@ToyManTelevision Yeah you pick a date and I'll make sure it's alright with my friend and we will line it up for you guys
Are you guys planning on going to Pennsylvania? If so, when?
Will Rumbold Sometime soon! So much of interest! I am hoping for the Blob Fest.. Royersford and Phoenixville. Perhaps even Pottstown!
195 Woohoo, Woohoo.
Grand day.
That railroad car instead of being called boxcars here in America they called them vans in all of Europe
Wasn’t sure. Know it’s not boxcar but didn’t know what. Van. Perfect
@@ToyManTelevision yes and Europe is called new van another cool fact also in Europe they called her cabooses break van
Wait, the FrontRunner bridge over the Ogden yard goes right by the Old UP roundhouse, doesn't it?
True, the UP roundhouse was there, but it was removed 40 years ago or more.
@@ronbelnap8370 Isn't the turntable still there, though? The whole thing looks like a junkyard around it.
Brian Kelleher this looks like a MofW materials yard now. There has been no sign of turntable, pit, roundhouse, or,shop for years. When I was there in the early 80's it was already long gone. The old SP table location can be identified, but the table is got and the pit filled.
Yes it’s a salvage yard now
i don't know you two in Utah, we just moved here almost 3 years :)
Hi. Yup. Salt Lake City. When we are in town. Right now in cedar city.
speaking of Ogden any progress on 223? Last news I can find dates back to 2010.
As always that poor little guy is complicated. Adam Panellus is been featured on the channel here a few times as considered taking the project over and hiring a locomotive builder in Las Vegas to simply finish it. Tender is all damn cab is all done but major problems with the frame side roads in boiler
@@ToyManTelevision Was wondering. I was involved in the restoration of TVRR #1 in Fairbanks Alaska and it took us 10 years to raise the money and do the work. Hadn't been any news on 223 in a long time and was curious.
Unfortunately all of the round house East wall and the Steam shop has been torn down. ☹️
Yup. A real loss.
Kinda makes you realize how much of the railroading history that has disappeared. Real sad.
Some surviving stuff out there. Even in the midsts of all this loss.
When you coming back to orygon
Not sure. Soon we hope.
In the future the 611 class j will be at Strasburg railroad for the reunion of the 475 steam engine.
Jonathan Coleman Your a big lier
@@trainboi right now the 475 is in for the 1,472 day inspection.
Hum. Play nice. Not sure this is about.
Um i wonder what doll house scale is? Mybe D gauge
Dry old senior citizens
We are just coming back from looking at a spontaneous waterfall that formed from melting snow on the Utah Arizona border in the red rocks. So much for dry!
I forgot. The article was written in 1991.
That was a great article. They sent in a photographer. I told them I could.. naw. They had a guy.
You'll laugh, I painted a little Klingon Battlecruiser, Faded Olive Drab, I'm hoping to do a diorama of the Cajon Pass Summet, SP Train Order Station.
You need to add a huge snow drift in the winter.
833 FEF3 the same class as 844 I believe 829 was the lastFEF2
I’ve always been told that one is an FEF2. Not sure on those.
Didnt they tear the shops down after the bus plan fell through?
Yes. I strongly suspect they were internal politics in the group that wanted to tear the building down won. But it was going to be very expensive to restore. So even though the project was approved one day they just started tearing it down
Man, thats another huge piece of history lost. Shame that they tore it down, had some intetesting forms of utilitarianism and industrial architecture! I think a couple of months ago Union Pacific tore down the last parts of the Southern Pacific's Diesel and Car Shops, which itself dated to the 1870s and used to service the steam engines in the Oakland Yard too.
My icon's X-26
Love that locomotive. Well turbines. Not just 26. It’s just that it’s one of two left in the world. I’ve seen many. But never saw one running. Too bad! But I did see many of them before they were scrapped.
That was really awesome, however if they don't start hitting the rust and fixing some of those engines up. the rust is gonna have it that those engines are not around anymore. they really need to start doing some repair and upkeep on them. as it will be a shame if they have to send them to a scrap yard as they are beyond repair.
Really. So few involved anymore and little money. Looks like a junk yard. And I only showed the good stuff! They have more stashed somewhere else. Even worse.
i listened over and over can you please spell the word for what the Bigboy was to be called sometimes it sounds like a D sometimes a T
Hi! Wasatch. Also spelled Wahatch. . The Paiute name of the mountains. Utah means “mountain top”. Pronounced wa sach. We did a show on the old tracks and water tower on the UP at the ghost town of Wahatch. It’s the summit of the UP line up Weber and Echo canyons. Just below Evanston. The plan was to build the helper engine shops there but the winter wind caused them to abandon it and build at Evanston instead.
Hay toy man how is your screwing around doing
We are heading back from the desert where melting snow created an amazing waterfall
where is the shops area?
The salt lake shops are at 2nd south and 500 to 600 west.
Hi! :) zach bowlen here, sent you an email last week following my post about the cable cars. Not sure if my Phone sent it haha thnx- Z
Don’t recall seeing it. But I get like 100 emails a day. Junk ads and stuff. So I miss stuff. Cable cars! Hum.