Some VW Thing Maintenance
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- The vw thing got some maintenance today. Kinda boring video but i changed fuel lines, fuel filter, and adjusted the front brakes. Plus Troy and his brother in law came and got some firewood. At least i got a little dirty today.
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That engine is made up of parts from several different years and types of Type 1 engines. I would right away get rid of that California smog distributor and find a pure mechanical -009 or -019 Bosch.
That beetle engine has heat exchangers, but no fan shroud ducts to supply them. A Mishmash of parts for sure! Also, get a 34 PICT -1 carburetor from a junkyard. Those smog carbs are horrible...
ik04 I loved a 010 but hard to find, the next best was the 050
That must be an industrial fan shroud with no fresh air outlets , that's unusual.
Pure mechanical advance on a street car is a detriment, not a plus. The mechanical + vacuum solution gives you the advance needed under partial load - like driving around town. Easier to drive, more efficient, better mileage.
I run a German Bosch 034 with my Solex 34PICT3 on a bone stock 1600 and she pushes the bus at 70 all day long @ 190 - 210 oil temp.
That push/pull setup I see he has works just fine if timed to 10 ATDC - the carb and dist. were designed to be a pair.
(it retards the timing at idle IIRC - rudimentary smog attempt but it doesnt hurt anything if set up right)
**Unless you're drag racing or running in SNORE - mechanical + vacuum advance is the better solution **
ik04 ... most Things don't have heater channels in the frame because they used a gas fired heater under the hood. IOW, they didn't come with heat exchangers on the exhaust or the ducts on the fan housing. Obviously the engine here came from another car.
@@Westy73 ... The Thing didn't come with heat from the engine or exchangers on the exhaust so that shroud is normal. What they had instead was a gas fired heater under the hood. Would agree on maintaining the stock carb and dist. A little fine tuning and it will run great.
Hey guys Kevin here from Australia. Great video. Owning a 63 🐞 myself you did good.
But now you've awoken all the other vw nuts to tell you all about your thing. 😁
Anyhoo stay safe and stay well.
✌ Peace
Scott, the fuel filter is designed to fit two different size hoses, you clamped your fuel line to the larger portion, for better fuel flow you should have cut off the smaller end where it changes to the larger portion. If what I said makes sense lol
A metal filter would be safer and easier to change out.
Not sure that wild Thing has enough oomph to need the larger diameter considering the sub-100hp
@@UnionThugg but you cant see how bad the filter looks.
This design is awesome lightning sparky next to fuelly explody. At least now you have two fewer possible sources of conflagration.
Don’t forget to oil the felt pad on the distributor shaft under the rotor.
Keep some wood golf trees around when you're changing fuel lines. They help plug lines that drip or run while changing.
I use to use a #2 philips screwdriver to plug the lines when disconnected
I use old spark plugs.
I always like using shoulder bolts that fit, but whatever you have handy.
Something people don't realize is that being metric the fuel line fittings are 6 mm and they use 1/4 hose which is 6.4 mm so they rely on the hose clip to hold the hose on tight. Good to see you have the right hose.
I remember changing the fuel filter on my '73 super beetle. I also recall how nervous I felt about gasoline dripping in the engine compartment.
Engine fire? No, that's just left over from the siege of Berlin
But it gets great economy - Berlin to Warsaw in a tank!.. :-D
Scott I have a 1965 VW Beatle a daily driver all original 40hp and 6volt sys Keep up the good work
It’s like watching Mustie1
Cut back the safety wire near the Alt wiring. I see a short to ground with that safety wire,
I bought a Beetle that had had an engine fire from the same cause, and I redid the harness, etc and got it running. I remember looking where the hose came off and thinking "this is a really dumb setup!"
Considering the Thing appears to have had a fire in the past...you may want to check your fuel hardline, all the way from the tank, and the grommets where the line enters and exits the frame. When the rubber grommets get old, they let moisture in, and the mild steel fuel line can rust through inside the frame, eventually filling the frame with gasoline when the leaks gets large enough. And the low point where it will leak out again just happens to be the rear grommet - right near the engine. Seen it happen a few times on old Beetles, sadly. Can't tell too well from the video, but that grommet @ 1:27 doesn't look all that tight against the frame.
Easy test is to disconnect tank and engine, then seal the ends and see if it will hold a vacuum or pressure. I reckon it's worth a look for peace of mind. And its an easy fix if the pipe is on the way out - just switch to an external fuel line running down along the sill, where it can dry out any time it gets splashed. :-)
That aromatic cedar wood is great for fire wood, but it smells so good, we call it Crack for Carpenters, lol!
I find a bit/ thin smear of petroleum jelly (Vaseline) great for slipping hoses on. It's quite harmless to rubber, fuel and oil. Good for plastic fittings because it cuts down friction, less likely to break it..
never want a engine fire, bad bad. love that vw, so cool.
Get a set of met wrenches, fits SAE and metric. Had a set for 35 years and best investment I ever made. Takes a little getting use to since they go on lose but I have never had on break or slip.
What are met wrenches?
Hey Scott when are you gonna be putting the turbos on the bus can't wait You have a wonderful family we enjoy watching you and your lovely wife and we also watch your son's videos he is quite an accomplished young man I tell you up I know you're proud of him I would be to James T North Carolina
He said he can't afford it now because of the economy etc
Scott,I worked on VW and Porsche air cooled for many years.i have !3) be busses. My (73) type 2 I repowered with a 1972 porche 911 6 cyl with mechanical fuel injection. it was a time consuming and expensive project.on the thing we always put the fuel filter between the fuel pump and the carb. The vacuum advance also is a vacuum retard. The distributor also had centrifugal advance.thd felt under the rotor needs a drop of oil . If turning the rotor back and forth doesn't happen the distributor will need to be completely disassembled and feed up. If the advance retard diaphragm is bad just replace the distributor with a total centrifugal advance distributor
Always use Bosch points, condenser , spark plugs and coil. Your coil is upside down and should be repositioned correctly. Also check the fan shroud where the coil mounts as I have seen the nut fixtures pull through and the coil will Fall and cause serious issues. It badly needs a valve adjustment your engine is noisey. Pull the rocker arms off and look at the adjustment screws and the valve tops for pitting.
Maybe you can find a vw diesel engine and replace that gas burner. However there is a lot you can do to improve your power and torque on that engine. Dual carb setups are available that are more reliable than that monster. A baja distributor and wires, headers and high flow exhaust. You can do a lot with that rig. Enjoyed this video👍
I hear that because of the modern alcohol gas we've got today that air cooled engines need to be running a little on the rich side.
Eddie 1967 watch Mustie1’s channel he’s restored several and seems to be a very popular mechanic for the NH/VT owners
You should install a 3-cylinder Kubota in that thing!
Brake bleeder valve has a rubber cap on it. Perfect for keeping fuel from leaking at the frame.
i dont like the cloth braided fuel hoses , you cant see when the rubber starts to crack underneath , once you see the fuelline turn darker due to the leaking fuel it is often to late....
I second that, had it fail 3 times, then got Gates line and no more problems.
The Thing looks really clean underneath, no rust. By the way that vacuum advance hose looked pretty flimsy. YOU NEED to replace that too...
With the German line you won’t need hose clamps. Work on these for years for a friend who was actually a factory trained VW guy and have never seen German line fall off. Get the fuel line away from the intake pre heater pipe.
Has that engine ever been over heated? I thought I noticed a head pop in a video, might be just how the camera picked up a sound.
After working on buses VWThing should be a piece of cake.
Okay take the factory chirping bird exhaust system and throw it in the trash and get a monza big bore 4 tip muffler you'll thank me later. your coil is upside down its oil filled and cooled if theres any air inside the coil it'll cause heat issues and cause premature death, not to mention water can pool on top and cause corrosion. Me personally i would chunk.the intake and the carb for a set of webers. For a few bucks that engine could give you so much more
Had some running issues with one of them engine one time that had the rope covered fuel lines, as it was running I began feeling & pressing the hose, as I got about half way down the hose mashing on it a squirt of gas came out, I had found a PIN size hole evidently under or through the layers of the hose, and it was NEW, I replaced with the same and had no running issues, the HOLE was NOT visible to the naked eye.
Spider zipping across the CV boot at 16:29 :) Wonder if he's a local, or if he's been living on the Thing since Indiana....
Dont say that he will panic 😉😃
Have you thought of converting the thing's front breaks to disk...The one thing I hated about old VWs was the stinking breaks!!
Maybe you should try brakes then.
Did you like the heater?
We don need no stinking breaks!!!!
@@jimjonrs3932 who Is don?
It must be nice working on something every part doesn't weigh 75 lbs.
Yes very nice
If I am remembering correctly from my 70 type 1 there is a pair of holes for the metal fuel line to come through the fan shroud. Also I kept my aftermarket inline fuel filter under the fuel tank as my fuel pump had a fuel screen built in.
We used a golf tee to stop gas while working on fuel system. Can install a petcock inline ahead of fuel filter for subsequent filter changes.
if you put it on bracket on the air fan in the back of the motor it easy to replace and it up were you can see it
Hey Scott, get yourself a 1/4 and 5/16 long nut drivers makes it a LOT easier to do those hose clamps.
It aways amazed me how hard those old Volkswagens' are to work on and they need a lot of constant work.
NebukedNezzer
... Constant work? Yeah, a 50 year old vehicle probably needs more attention but back in the day (and if you knew what you were doing) they really only needed oil changes between major services. If you kept the valves properly adjusted and never threw a fan belt (overheating) you could get 100k miles out of an engine. OTOH, most people failed to do that because they just didn't understand how to do things correctly.
My view on my VW things in the 1970s was there was no poimt in worrying about any problem as long as you could get a girl in it and it would proceed down the road!
All other issues, broken exhausts, fuel leaks, cracked twisted frame with water in it, faulty brakes, corroded headlight reflectors, bald tyres, faulty accelerater pedals, non functioning fuel gauges, dirty idle jets, worn front ends etc etc etc were just part of the VW experience.
I think twin 2bbl Solex’s would be great on your Thing!
Or maybe a 2.5 l Type 4. Lots of options.
Yes, on the type 4 you can get bigger cylinder kits up to 2.5 l. Not stock, but quite common in the aftermarket
Finally! We are back at least a little to motors, grease and fuel spills. Building a bus grease monkeys habitat would not be complete without a 40 foot steel container and a vintage motor to fix up!
He said sprocket and that made think of “Sprockets” from Saturday night live . Anyone remember that one ?
I was thinking more of Spacely Sprockets from _The Jetsons_ .
Hello Dieter.
Velcome to shprakets! Now is ze time on shprakets vhen we dance!
i was just about to post that this is easier with the dizzy cap off as you were pulling it off....
Just another afternoon turning wrenches in the container!
"these are the only metric tools I own" I have not heard that line in 20 years...: )
My adjustable wrench also does both ;)
True. Most of my tools are metric, but I have owned mostly foreign cars and motorcycles.
I had a 10mm adjustable once. Would you believe, I lost it? :-P
Don Moore Yep i had hondas growing up.i think i got metric tools for Christmas....Sooooo. long ago. 😂
I am amazed at how you fit into tiny places. I wish I could wrench while standing on my head...
in your list of tools, you should have had a fire extinguisher.... 99.9 percent of the time you won't need it, but when you, you really do. especially in your location. Been there, done that.
I had a fire extinguisher in my hand when kelly started it
@@BusGreaseMonkey years ago, I was working on a '72 toyota corolla... I didn't have a fire extinguisher, ended up using dirt 🙂
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ingenious how the fuel system on the air cooled vw is designed in such a way that you can't spill diesel on your face, isn't it?
Thought you would have put that new filter somewhere you could see it not underneath.
SCOTT THE FUEL FILTER YOU TOLD ABOUT, INSTALLING IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. DOES THE INSTALLATION COMPARE TO THE INSTALLATION ON A MOTORCYCLE?
22:08 the end of that safety wire looks to close for comfort to the other wires close by, I'd cut them shorter.
No 1/4" ratchet extensions for those fuel line clamps??
It's all so TINY! 🤣
"Wheeler Dealers" did a VW Thing (Series 12, episode 7) and a front disc brake conversion was among the work carried out. The kit had to come from Germany and it was not cheap. Is it just me or is the fuel line from the pump to the carb uncomfortably close to the coil?
Number 1 manufacturing rule when this "thing" was built: it's ran fine when it came out of the factory its your fault it caught on fire
That fan belt looks pretty loose.....!
tie a rag around your wrists to keep the gasoline from running into your armpits!! safety 1st!! 👍👍👍
Looks like a mish-mash of parts thrown together, what a mess!
Hi Scott, could you do a video on pointing out the different engine components on a 671?
How did the pad come out after you removed the forms?
Every time a friend of mine gets an air cooled VW I tell him/her to check the fuel line and change it if it's at all hardened.
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... why wait till the fuel line is hard? It's already 50 years old so just change it. $5 well spent as insurance!
@@rupe53 It's probably been replaced more than once by now. If it's not like new, change it.
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I see you have bug heater boxes on your thing's exhaust. as i don't see on the frame forks is the little stubs that come out as that connects to the heater control cables to the right lever on the handbrake originally the left lever be the rear footwell or defrost on late model bugs. or else the previous owner might of put in a beetle engine after the fire. as the later model 1974 thing had the beetle heat exchanger or heater boxes. as the rear tin is different and the beetle fan housing has the air ducts that feed the heater boxes. as 1971 and later 1600cc dual port engines has the doghouse oil cooler fan housings as earlier single port engines from the 1200cc, to the 1600cc single port motors has a regular fan housing as the housings 1963-1970 has the ducts and heater boxes the heater boxes on the 1975-1979 beetles are different as well as the exhaust system as they were fuel injected as these heater boxesyou got on went up to 1974.
73 thing didn’t have any engine heat so there are no cables or chase duct for the engine connection. Just the espar gas heater in the frunk
i see the original engine must of caught fire i seen a slot hole in the center of the bumper as that was for a hand crank to start the engine with as you need a special crankshaft pulley bolt as i seen the Things had them. the Beetle they had the gas heater as an option the Espar or the Stewart Warner Southwind heaters. the Thing it was closely related to the original WWll Vw as then it was called the Kubelwagen had the vw air-cooled motor was only a 25hp 1131cc which ran up to 1953. as the Kubelwagen its the KDF era which went from 1938-1945 the windshield on the Kubel folds down like the thing. the vw air-cooled engines in late 1953 the displacement went up to 1192cc which is 36 hp it went to July of 1960 on the bug as the 25 hp 1131cc and the 36 hp 1192cc the generator stand is casted in the right engine case half. then the engine in 1959 went to 40 hp 1192cc or 1200cc used on the bus then on the bug and Ghia went to 1962 on the bus and to 1965 on the beetle and Ghia as 1966 the bug and Ghia in the us got the one year only 50 hp 1300cc with the 69mm stroke the beetles and Ghias from 1967-1969 the bus from 1962-1967 had the 53 hp 1493cc 1500 single port the bug and ghia in 1970 the bus from 1967-1970 had the 1600cc single port the bus 1971 and the bug 1971-1979 Ghia 1971-1974 and thing 1973-1974 have the 1600cc dual port the 1975-1979 bugs 1600 dual ports the left case half has no provision for a mechanical fuel pump as the engines used a Bosch air flow controlled fuel injection system with a distributor like yours combination of centrifugal and a vaccum advance and retard. as people changed the fuel injection on them back to a carburetor on 1975 and later bugs the problem is they have to run an electric fuel pump designed for the carburetors the 34 pict-3 or a H30/31 pict carburetor with adapter
@@derekobidowski3301 .. The EFI system you speak of in the later bugs is the Bosch L-Jetronic, which is almost identical to what Datsun / Nissan used on their 2.4 ltr 6 cyls in the late 70s.
I would have put fuel filter in the same place so you can easily look at it.rather than struggle underneath.
As a '73 Thing owner you are now "The Thing Grease Monkey". 50 Likes and 100 shares. Thanks Scott...I needed this very bad...I'm working on the song right now.
Doesn’t have a great ring to it does it... watch out for that greasy thing
On a different note , I came across a 40's ? Fitzjohn bus that's been stripped out. Engine at front. Any comments?
Cool car 🙂
If you ever have concerns about your vw motor or are unsure of something check out mustie1s channel he has all sorts of vws.
deathklock333 I think they should do a crossover episode
Doug works alone... But there is definitely room for someone like Scott in the air cooled video business.
Big project.
i say no to modern braided hose ...cant see it perishing and cracking until its too late , buy the best stuff you can
steveo3002
... pretty sure that tag said it was German hose for the VW. That's the CORRECT stuff to use and never needs clamps.
that is not a metric screwdriver
Nice 👍
Getting rid of the NON- Braded rubber fuel hose is about the best thing you can do. doesnt take long for the fuel to deteriorate it, next thing you know, it's Bbq sauce.👍
the factory braided hose was very reliable, until alcohol made it's way into the fuel supply....
@@marzsit9833 Yes definitely, alcohol fudges everything up. If IAM not mistaking, the factory hose was "Aramid" Braded or something like that.
let Mustie1 help you with that lol
Why would you put the fuel filter in an area where you cannot see it? Just asking.
I think the answer to that is in the introduction!
I heard fire..but as another person found out on another channel did not know what was causing the fire. And yep had a fire in an Australian Ford GT 351 because of fuel filter. But hey thats not in 'merica.
Isn't that a kattenvagen from ww2 or based on.... the Germans answer to the Willis jeep I believe
Hello Scott. Your Thing has a Type 1 engine. I had a 72 VW super beetle in the early 80's. I was broke then and had to work on my beetle to get to work. I used the John Muir VW maint manual for idiots: www.users.on.net/~agonza/dev/How%20to%20Keep%20Your%20VW%20Alive%20OCR%20done.pdf. John Muir was a good mech and he had a since of humor. Read his book, you'll learn about your type 1 and have a good laugh!.
SCOTT, EVER THINK ABOUT A WATER COOLED BUS Diesel engine IN YOUR THING... ITS BEEN DONE
Probably cost more than the car
13:46 Doesn't that filter have an arrow to show you how to install it?
Ok don’t make this the flaming thing in the container vid.🤣🤣😂
In the closet 😉
Also this car was Hitlers answer to the Jeep. And you need to read the real manual.. which reads.. Car wont start... " get out and smoke a joint". "then go wiggle that red wire there". hahahh
i had a hard starter ,turns out it was the condenser
Only when it’s hot? Starts fine cold
And it’s only hard if you wait more than 5 min when hot. You can turn it off hit and it starts perfect up to about 5 min after that window of about 5 min it’s a 20 seconds of turning over to start.
@@BusGreaseMonkey ya thats wired,try putting a little fuel right in the carb when it wont start,also that condenser worth a try.still hard to start after changing fuel stuff?
All the old girls need some attention.. hehe.. I got some... let me sit under her for a bit... ill figure it out... hahahahahah
sick your self when you got hit by that gas lol
Needs more fweem.
I kept shouting at the tv take the cap off like ur new garage
You can change one letter and have a whole other channel! Bug Grease Monkey!
Too funny
Not even period correct parts! Someone was drunk placing these parts together!
Every air cooled. When shut of back fires. Not shure it ignition
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bad job under the car // no good