At 2:26 it wasn't the double yellow that confused the Tesla. If you look carefully you'll see that a dog was hallucinated and it rendered in the display for less than a second.
@@edhill8568 And I can point to TH-cam FSD reviews from Toronto or San Francisco that have *many* *interventions* . Level 5 Full Autonomy is years away.
@@DerekDavis213 What is your point? Results of FSD vary a lot by where you drive. For me in suburban Boston I haven't had a critical safety disengagement since I got V12 which is almost 2 months. Everyone's experience is different. If I tried driving in Boston every day I'm sure my experience would differ. V12 is amazing though. On my standard test route I had 27 errors with V11. V12 fixed every single one which shocked me. Getting better is all I care about since I use it every day on every drive, at night and in the rain. Way safer for me supervising FSD then driving just on my own.
I can attest that FSD 12.3.6 does not handle merging well. I have had two instances where it did not do anything when a vehicle was merging onto the freeway and I was right next to them in the right most lane. Of course the person on the freeway has the right of way but that is no excuse to let yourself get sideswiped by the car either.
In the UK if we enter a four-way roundabout, we would indicate before entering the roundabout to exit left or right, and take the lane for those. Then we would indicate to leave the roundabout just after the exit before our departure exit. Sorry, sounds more complicated than it is, but I think that was what the car did..
What are you talking about with the roundabouts? It looked like it was in the correct lane in the first one. And in the 2nd; the indicator tells oncoming traffic entering the roundabout that you are turning left, and that they need to give way to you. "It handled the roundabout fine, I'm just complaining" - yeah about the CAR doing the RIGHT thing! You're SUPPOSED to use your indicator when turning on roundabouts.
Turning on your left-hand indicator to take a left at a roundabout is incorrect. Additionally, the first one goes over the white lines, which indicates it is not a turn lane.
Very interesting - quite good but a very scary inaction too. Generally it handled functioning roads well - and road works not so well - to be expected. I don't like the way the speed for 55mph limits defaults to 62-64 mph that seems a basic flaw. Also the complete failure to handle the semi-trucks merge at 6:40 is a possibly fatal flaw.
The auto speed limit beta switch is currently enabled, hence the speed limit is automatically set and shifts around. Personally, I'm not fond of it, but it has been turned on with a warning that the car may exceed the speed limit resulting in a possible ticket. Not moving over for two semi-trucks was a huge problem that needed to be address
Yes, the video at 6:40 is scary! A human driver would see the trucks merging, and give them plenty of space. Human drivers have excellent *situational* *awareness* .
Rumour has it that FSD passed some hurdle last week and is now coming to 'the rest of the world'! Yay! I wonder if I'll be seeing more or less cars in hedges on UK country lanes?
How can it be classed as self driving when you have to intervene ? It will never be at the stage where you can feel safe to have a nap while driving anywhere
Someday, every car would need to be connected to the same network and have full self-driving capability in order to achieve this. One thing fsd can do is drive you all the way to the crash site.
Just a small request, and I dont want you to get offended, but any chance the incidental music could just be a little bit quieter .... just a little .. then we're all good.
It's hard to fit in 2 screens, window view, screen view in a 9:16 aspect ratio on TH-cam. On X you can do a 1:1 aspect ratio so you can stack them. Still trying to figure it out.
Funny how you claim its FSD 12.3.6, while a lot of people know that on highway, it has been using v11.4.9 stack forever now. V12.3.6 only applies to city driving. Thats why, FSD is still pretty dumb on the highways at merging like this. I agree, it sucks at merging on highway. What I'm sure, is that, had you hadnt disengaged, FSD would change to the left lane as well, but at the very last minute that would make the other driver hella mad. Therefore, unless Tesla claims that highway stack is now end to end using the neural net, this will always happen again at merging. One should either manual move to the left or disengage and slow down to yeild to other merging cars
I know that the car uses two single stacks for FSD and autopilot. In fact, I made a video about how the handoff between these two stacks works. Additionally, I discussed how incorrect mapping data can slow down the car on the highway due to a switch between stacks. Therefore, depending on the location where I'm driving, the car technically uses both stacks, both on and off. I hope this becomes end to end
I guess you must be chuffed that CNBC featured you on their Tesla hit piece "Tesla's big gamble: Full Self-Driving in the wild" aired a couple days ago,
When you're driving at 70mph on a highway and another vehicle is not showing any indication of slowing down or moving over, you don't want to take any chances.
Video title: Tesla FSD 12.3.6 not perfect People that had problems with 12.3.4 and 12.3.5 were hoping that 12.3.6 would be a *huge* improvement. Oh well.
At 2:26 it wasn't the double yellow that confused the Tesla. If you look carefully you'll see that a dog was hallucinated and it rendered in the display for less than a second.
I didn't notice that, great catch. Gotta watch out for those invisible pets.
Dog was funny, but visualization seems to be disconnected from driving FSD. It is more likely AI thought that black patch was some kind of pothole.
Fsd has no trouble in empty roads...you need to test it out in downtown with tons of rush hour traffic
You speak the truth.
I will be testing it out this week in the Twin Cities. Videos will be posted this weekend.
The are several FSD video driving in New York City including Manhattan. Good to watch and surprisingly FSD did reasonably well.
@@edhill8568 And I can point to TH-cam FSD reviews from Toronto or San Francisco that have *many* *interventions* .
Level 5 Full Autonomy is years away.
@@DerekDavis213 What is your point? Results of FSD vary a lot by where you drive. For me in suburban Boston I haven't had a critical safety disengagement since I got V12 which is almost 2 months. Everyone's experience is different. If I tried driving in Boston every day I'm sure my experience would differ. V12 is amazing though. On my standard test route I had 27 errors with V11. V12 fixed every single one which shocked me. Getting better is all I care about since I use it every day on every drive, at night and in the rain. Way safer for me supervising FSD then driving just on my own.
I can attest that FSD 12.3.6 does not handle merging well. I have had two instances where it did not do anything when a vehicle was merging onto the freeway and I was right next to them in the right most lane. Of course the person on the freeway has the right of way but that is no excuse to let yourself get sideswiped by the car either.
It's important to note that we're still using the 11 stack for highways, and the handoff from 12 to 11 needs improvement.
you still need to use blinkers in a roundabout. If you're turning left (270 degrees) you need to indicate
I’m not really sure what the laws are in my state, but the Tesla does not always indicate when driving in roundabouts.
In the UK if we enter a four-way roundabout, we would indicate before entering the roundabout to exit left or right, and take the lane for those. Then we would indicate to leave the roundabout just after the exit before our departure exit. Sorry, sounds more complicated than it is, but I think that was what the car did..
Most roundabout in the US we just drive into them with no signal. The Car does the indicator about 50% of the time.
That’s pretty standard.
UK roundabouts are strange though. They have a load of lanes and you have to change lanes in the roundabout
What are you talking about with the roundabouts? It looked like it was in the correct lane in the first one.
And in the 2nd; the indicator tells oncoming traffic entering the roundabout that you are turning left, and that they need to give way to you.
"It handled the roundabout fine, I'm just complaining" - yeah about the CAR doing the RIGHT thing! You're SUPPOSED to use your indicator when turning on roundabouts.
Turning on your left-hand indicator to take a left at a roundabout is incorrect. Additionally, the first one goes over the white lines, which indicates it is not a turn lane.
Very interesting - quite good but a very scary inaction too. Generally it handled functioning roads well - and road works not so well - to be expected.
I don't like the way the speed for 55mph limits defaults to 62-64 mph that seems a basic flaw. Also the complete failure to handle the semi-trucks merge at 6:40 is a possibly fatal flaw.
The auto speed limit beta switch is currently enabled, hence the speed limit is automatically set and shifts around. Personally, I'm not fond of it, but it has been turned on with a warning that the car may exceed the speed limit resulting in a possible ticket. Not moving over for two semi-trucks was a huge problem that needed to be address
Yes, the video at 6:40 is scary! A human driver would see the trucks merging, and give them plenty of space. Human drivers have excellent *situational* *awareness* .
Rumour has it that FSD passed some hurdle last week and is now coming to 'the rest of the world'! Yay! I wonder if I'll be seeing more or less cars in hedges on UK country lanes?
It would be interesting to see, but since I'm pretty US-focused, I don't know what the rest of the world looks like for FSD.
How can it be classed as self driving when you have to intervene ? It will never be at the stage where you can feel safe to have a nap while driving anywhere
Someday, every car would need to be connected to the same network and have full self-driving capability in order to achieve this. One thing fsd can do is drive you all the way to the crash site.
Also these videos are always filmed when there is virtually no other cars on the road & it’s a clear bright day lol
It's hard to go out at night and record when you have kids. Lol. This summer in planning on driving more and less highways.
Just a small request, and I dont want you to get offended, but any chance the incidental music could just be a little bit quieter .... just a little .. then we're all good.
I'm not good at creating the music. Do you think it would be better if I removed the music completely?
I recommend showing the full-screen to include the bottom of the screen.
It's hard to fit in 2 screens, window view, screen view in a 9:16 aspect ratio on TH-cam. On X you can do a 1:1 aspect ratio so you can stack them. Still trying to figure it out.
As someone interested in FSD and not just seeing the road, I was fine with this setup
Funny how you claim its FSD 12.3.6, while a lot of people know that on highway, it has been using v11.4.9 stack forever now. V12.3.6 only applies to city driving.
Thats why, FSD is still pretty dumb on the highways at merging like this. I agree, it sucks at merging on highway. What I'm sure, is that, had you hadnt disengaged, FSD would change to the left lane as well, but at the very last minute that would make the other driver hella mad.
Therefore, unless Tesla claims that highway stack is now end to end using the neural net, this will always happen again at merging. One should either manual move to the left or disengage and slow down to yeild to other merging cars
I know that the car uses two single stacks for FSD and autopilot. In fact, I made a video about how the handoff between these two stacks works. Additionally, I discussed how incorrect mapping data can slow down the car on the highway due to a switch between stacks. Therefore, depending on the location where I'm driving, the car technically uses both stacks, both on and off. I hope this becomes end to end
I guess you must be chuffed that CNBC featured you on their Tesla hit piece "Tesla's big gamble: Full Self-Driving in the wild" aired a couple days ago,
?? I don’t watch the news.
@@FSDdriverI don’t blame you.
Tesla hit piece? You mean that CNBC told the truth about FSD? It is still a basic Level 2 system that makes mistakes?
Trucks were very far when you dissengaged. Not sure how come you think it was not going to slow down. I bet there was no danger you just over reacted.
When you're driving at 70mph on a highway and another vehicle is not showing any indication of slowing down or moving over, you don't want to take any chances.
Video title: Tesla FSD 12.3.6 not perfect
People that had problems with 12.3.4 and 12.3.5 were hoping that 12.3.6 would be a *huge* improvement. Oh well.
12.4 will be the big improvement because it’s a retrained system
@@zachb1706 And if 12.4 still makes mistakes on a *challenging* drive, then what will people say?
@@DerekDavis213 I think 12.4 will still make mistakes. But it’ll be much improved and on the path towards a self driving system.
@@zachb1706 12.4 will be *much* *improved* over 12.3.6 ? Let's watch and hope for the best.
@@zachb1706 It will be interesting to watch the 12.4 reviews, coming soon .
FSD is all the rage with fascists.
It's rule number 2, just after socialised healthcare
@@nicosmind3 LMAO, fascists love having their healthcare tied to their employer so they lose it when Elmo fires them.
I'm not sure how we ended up here, but I'm going to stick to driving.
If you made the video 16:9 you wouldn't need to squeeze the video
4k dash cam, 1080p screen recording.both 16:9 so what one you wanna see more screen or drive?