When it comes right down to it, there's zero empirical evidence that life is better than death. We're just making assumptions and running on inertia. No one's actually come back with a first hand report on the subject after all - and no, a few moments of technical brain death doesn't qualify. What kind of basis for judgement would that be? Your first few seconds of independent life after you're a womb-parasite aren't typical of the rest of your life either, especially if some random stranger immediately starts slapping you around to remind you to breathe like an old Warner Brothers cartoon. Plenty of religions claim that if you do what they tell you dying is definitely where you get to the good part, even. Funny how none of their leaders offer to go first and talk about speeding up the queue for everyone else.
I always enjoy how lightsaber stabbings somehow never turn into full-on dismemberings even though dragging a lightsaber through someone's body is super easy, barely an inconvenience.
The funniest part is that it is so ridiculously easy that the famous "super easy, barely an inconvenience" isn't even accurate because there is zero inconvenience. Seriously, just stay in place and do nothing. The other person will dismember themselves while collapsing.
Thank you for calling out the arm-crossing. It really bothered me, too much really, that Ahsoka is standing around all smug like for almost the ENTIRE series!
IKR? It's almost like they didn't realize the reason we all liked Ahsoka in the first place was because she grew up and had character development... but hey, when has a 50 something been cringe for acting like a teen? I mean, Tsunade was 50 something but actively made herself look and act like a drunk 29 year old...
@@SeanTanktopand is also a Sith apprentice who can use his anger to stay alive, and also went batshit insane. Meanwhile the grand inquisitor who is nowhere near as strong as Maul survives being stabbed with literally no consequences. Same with Sabine
Definitely better than the light saber fights in the original trilogy. Those were like toddlers playing power rangers 😂😂. think you're confusing Disney with those😅.
You forgot to mention that after finding Thrawn, Ahsoka doesn't seem to care about him getting away again... It's like she was just needed to check it off the bucket list.
That does kind of make sense, as everyone else was saying she never cared about Thrawn except as an excuse to get to Ezra. Of course that interpretation has its own big issues.
One of the major problems with this show is that most of the main characters don't seem to give a shit about anything so there are no stakes. Ahsoka is nonplussed about Thrawn getting away. Sabine is stabbed by a lightsaber but no big deal. No consequences. She finds Ezra and it's like, "Yo, what up?" If the characters don't care then we're not going to care as an audience.
what really infuriated me was when Ahsoka in the very last episode turns to Sabine and says "You did good". What. The. F***? Its like the characters have reached some kind of awareness of their infinite plot armor and therefore act extra careless and casual with unleashing absolutely massive threats to the galaxy, because in the end it will all work out somehow. Nothing matters, when they are stuck in a story dead end somehow, the bad writers will just spawn random space whales or some other deus ex machina shit. It is all a big cartoon now. I think after Andor S2 I will be done with Star Wars untill they throw out that hack writer Filoni
Fun pitch meeting, but Ryan missed one trick, which is pointing out that Sabine's light sword stabbing was barely an inconvenience, but Morgana's light sword stabbing killed her dead on the spot.
Morgana was double light sword slashed in the belly, much worse than poked in the belly. Then there was the time Maul was cut in half and fell into the core of a planet and got robot legs as a reward.
Morgan was slashed across the abdomen with a lightsaber and another magic sword. Apparently, slashing is immediately lethal, but stabbing is only a mild inconvenience.
@@swimmingmide"poked in the belly" is a funny way of saying being cooked alive at thousands of degrees. Also, Maul shouldve stayed dead, so thats not exactly the good point you think it js.
@@fissilewhistle, lightsabers cauterizes wound they make, so being stab in stomach is just very painful. It wouldn’t be deadly for regular sword if you get treated write away because the only reason you would die is bleeding to death, which doesn’t happen with lightsaber.
Giving no conclusion at all and Sabine go from not being able to use the force to being a expert and throwing someone into a ship.. I enjoyed it enough until that finale.. Dang.
@@colester167 It's sad that Disney has changed the Force from a rare skill that takes time to master and become proficient with into a skill everyone is instantly good at if they just believe in it enough.
That’s a wise decision. There have been literally thousands of better films and TV shows that have been produced over the past century. You’re better off spending your time watching those
I can't believe Ryan kept cutting his hair and growing it back out between filming each side. He must've started this pitch before Ahsoka was even announced! A true visionary. 🤯
"Look people, we've had so much of hand-to-hand and ship-to-ship combat, we really need to shake things up, do something fresh. Any ideas?" "How about.... hand-to-ship combat?" "AWESOME!"
I honestly believe Disney is addicted to hate-baiting people into watching deliberately bad media. It just feels too consistent, their response to pushback is to double down as if the pushback is the point
@@Ghost.uppercut There were many good movies made by Disney in the past. They might even make some in the future. Nobody is saying they never made good movies, just that the general quality of their movies has decreased drastically over the last 5-10 years (the beginning of the badness might go further back, but that's around when it got significant). OG MCU movies started a whole franchise because the first few were so well received. The whole world got interested in comic book characters, something that was once a semi shameful thing to admit liking when speaking with non-nerds. It's sad to see it all go down the drain, but at least we can still watch those golden oldies
I started watching the show.. and thought I would have to watch it through it for continuity.. but then I remembered this channel and now I get the important stuff without the suffering. You're a godsend, sir!
@samblack5313 but boats look up (I decided which ways boats "look") and because of that they..fly or something? Idk I'm waiting for the books to come out
Can we just acknowledge the biggest crime of this show? If you take Ahsoka out of this story, not that much changes. Thrawns robots would have still found the map. They probably would have figured out how to open it. And they would have got him back at which point the Republic would have pulled their heads out of the sand and acknowledged he's returned. The only difference is Ezra who seems like he could have easily stowed away on the ship on the way back and who admittedly is going to give the Republic a heads up that Thrawns' back. Which given their track record, the Republic still won't believe it.. And even if we acknowledge that Ezra coming back is because of Ahsoka's actions, it's more because of Sabine's actions. I cannot believe I predicted this was going to happen when they announced this show two years ago. If a show is named after a specific character in Star Wars, that is now a dead guarantee that the show won't actually be about them
No, the most ridiculous suspension of disbelief moment which exposes the axiom flaw in the premise is how anyone would know there's a map to the location of Thrawn?
The show was unclear on the lesson but I think people are purposefully being dense about this. He’s not telling her it’s better to live, it’s not like she’s choosing to not live. He’s making her fight for her life internally. She’s literally unconscious and drowning. He’s showing her how to survive.
@@king_supreme1102Now tell me was Anakin a force ghost? Was this some kinda dimension between dimensions? Was this some weird time dilation realm? Was it all in her head? Was it worth answering these questions for future projects? Should we care at all since the rest of this show drags on and does nothing but set up stuff for season 2?
@@theLikou1 Ryan and George are the two actors who play the parts of screenwriter and producer guy. They both have several brothers who also play various parts in the Ryanverse. Rumour has it they are from a small village in Canada, very close to a nuclear processing plant. source; Ryanpedia, a full and wholey apocryphal history of Ryan and George.
Yeah it’s totally like those silly moments in those AWFUL animated shows. Oh wait, those shows are good 🤔. It’s almost as if we pick and choose when we like goofy Star Wars and when it’s beneath us, based on whether we’re supposed to like or hate the show.
@@king_supreme1102you can have goofy in starwars but it has to be earned. Starkiller bringing down a star destroyed from orbit was even more far fetched but it came at a climax and had an entire game of buildup
Same as Rey. In Disney Star Wars, all you need to do is believe in yourself. Training and dedication are nothing. This was also true for Obi-Wan. He was rusty at using The Force (strange given that he knew he needed to protect young Luke), but once he believed in himself, it all came flooding back.
Ryan forgot the fact that she showed absolutely no signs of being able to use the Force in her entire original show, despite training in lightsaber combat with her surrogate father that she knew for years. He just somehow never picked up on it lmao.
The fact that someone can survive a lightsaber stabbing is already ridiculous enough, but Disney is going out of its way to make it happen in every single new Star Wars thing and that just leaves me speechless.
Seeing as how Book of Boba Fett didn’t do so well maybe people would like a new Jango Fett series instead? Sure, he was decapitated in Clone Wars, but he was decapitated with LIGHTSABER. How deadly could that really be?
no one questioning this woman that endangered the entire galaxy for one dude she doesn't even break down or hug or say how much she missed is nuts. Gotta be a strong woman. No emotions allowed here, no sir
Also, she sold the galaxy out to the man she believed just killed Ahsoka literally seconds before, doesn't appear to grieve Ahsoka's death in anyway, and only seems mildly pleased at best when Ahsoka isn't dead.
Very glad he called out Sabine betraying the entire galaxy just for a guy. Not a guy with potential like Anakin, just a guy. Who looks like he could be a barista
Let’s not forget that there was another entire series where Sabine was one of the main characters and it was not once hinted that she was Force-Sensitive whatsoever
But don't you remember? The force in Disney wars is with EVERYONE! EVERYBODY can become a jedi if they just wish hard enough to a star (possibly a death star).
She wielded the dark saber, so she had to be at least force sensitive to do… if you believe the Star Wars lore. Let’s face it the force is midichlorians and they’re fickle at best.
@@markloertscher1022 That means nothing. Lots of people have wielded the dark saber in lore and almost none of them were force sensitive. Anyone can pick up and turn on any lightsaber. This is just some more inexplicable Mary Sue Disney bullshit.
Not only was it not hinted but kanen specifically said that she was NOT force sensitive and thus could not train with a lightsaber. The Ahsoka show really has outstanding writing...
I did find it amusing that they had Sabine get impaled by a lightsaber but it didn't seriously impede anything, because that's been pretty much an insta-kill in every other piece of Star Wars media.
@@BJMcKay44 Especially since Maul survived being fucking cut in half. I know people like him for the animated series but come on, bringing him back was awful. If you can survive that, why didn't Qui Gon survive? Why didn't Vader survive a little electric shock from Empy Palps?
People keep forgetting - lightsabers are only dangerous if you have an allergy to them. Just carry antihistamines, works a treat. The bearded actor had a lot of positive comments even from critics - and then he dies in real life. We just can't have nice things, I guess.
My god, how do you keep such a positive sound in your voice while going through all that sarcasm? I'd be rolling on the floor the whole time. I'd never get anything filmed.
There is actually a TV Trope about that. I think it's called "Passing around the idiot ball." But basically it's that the characters can only be as smart as the writers need them to be for the plot.
@@taste_is_sweetThe Idiot Ball is when characters suddenly get stupid (sometimes with good reason!) so the plot can happen. It's a different thing than everybody constantly being a moron because the writers themselves are too stupid to notice. Or think the audience is too stupid to notice and just don't care; dealer's choice.
Love how the impact and threat of a lightsaber has been so lessened that a common cold can keep someone out of action longer now. And while I hated the idea of mitochlorians, I'm starting to think it's better than you can use the force if you just wish really, really hard
Eh, I don't mind lightsaber stabs being survivable since that's actually pretty realistic. A hole through your body isn't nearly as lethal as you'd think as long as your heart doesn't get hit, especially when you don't have to worry about blood loss, and Star Wars medical technology should totally be good enough to fix something like that. As for the midichlorians, they were a minor yet surprisingly vital plot device that everyone misunderstood and overreacted to. Outside of specifically the plot of The Phantom Menace, they're not really important at all.
@@RelativelyBest I'll admit I was speaking mostly in hyperbole. I agree with the stab not being lethal as long as vital organs are avoided and blood loss is managed. I always assumed the lightsaber cauterized the wounds anyway which would cover blood. It's more the regularity of people getting stabbed and just coming back no problem makes me feel the weapon or the user is ineffective. It's a bigger problem that isn't exclusive with Star Wars but it lessens the risk and therefore loses tension. The midochlorians I only took issue with the idea that without them (or without a certain amount, I'm not clear on it) you couldn't be force sensitive at all. What I mean here is I'd rather take the worst case of needing them to have access to the force at all over being so capable of doing the force feats in the Disney era Star Wars with no real training. Again, I just feel it takes something that should be impressive and lowers its value when it feels more like a character just levels up and unlocks full force powers.
@@RelativelyBest Why are people so angry abou midichlorians anyways? Imean, force be energy field spanned by (biologically/carboon based) living beings. Midichlorians be symbiotes that do spanning and connecting to it. Pretty simple, and I thought it fit. Is it that they wanted the force to be more mystical?
@@RelativelyBestyeah no a hole through your stomach is pretty bad news. Not to mention that it was burned through.. that much heat and energy boils the surrounding tissue as well
@@RelativelyBest Are you serious? It's more than "just a hole" it's a freaking shaft of plasma hot enough to melt a 3 foot thick blast door, her insides would have vaporized, her organs would have literally exploded, and even if she could have been saved by some insane medical tech or magical force healing power NO ONE was close enough to administer them. No human being should be able to survive being run through with a light saber, period. And, on a side note, all the bad gal had to do was a flick of the wrist and she would have cut Sabine in half, there was literally no good reason to withdraw the light saber cleanly. The show was just pure stupidity on so many levels and this is only one of probably hundreds of examples.
I love how Ryan has kept this kind of content up for years, without ever having a bad episode despite making 2 videos a week since 2018. The respect I have on this man
2:01 It’s hilarious how this happens in so many movies/shows. That’s like having a professional marksman with a Barrett .50 Cal dangling on a rope ladder attached to a helicopter above and then just swinging him right at an enemy
If you mean from Ahsoka's POV, at least a .50 Cal would be a ranged weapon, so it’s slightly more plausible that she would be a danger to them at range, meaning coming in close would be less likely anyway.
No I mean a guy with a weapon meant for long range warfare who is chilling at the bottom of a rope ladder attached to a helicopter, then the helicopter flies close to the ground toward a guy with a shotgun so that the dude with a sniper rifle sitting on the rope ladder enters point blank range combat with a dude with a shotgun. They’re using the long range marksman on the ladder sort of like a wrecking ball or a ball-and-chain flail.
@@Colinkrauss1that's the worst analogy for anything I have ever seen. It's more like a guys with an assault rifle deciding to try to charge a group of guys with swords to engage them with their bayonets. The whole point of a ranged weapon is that you can hit someone from a range where they can't hit you. It's actually harder to shoot someone from very close range. Especially in an aircraft, which is moving fast too fast relative to the target to hit it when you are close. That scene is contrivance to "ten year old playing with his Star Wars toys" level.
The animated Sabine never would have done that, at least not without a plan. Also, there was no indication of her being force sensitive in Star Wars Rebels, so that was clearly just tacked on in a failed attempt to make her seem cooler and make up for how dumb and covered in plot armor she is now.
Love that line, "all the stormtroopers forget that they're holding guns." It's my favorite quote in this whole pitch meeting. Does it capture anybody else's fancy?
@@khaotika943 Not to mention how they surround Ashoka later, at top of the tower... and while 20 of them are surrounding a single person in a small tower top... none of them spot Sabine, who is right there (she didn't jump after Ezra). Crappy director logic: since the viewers can't see Sabine out of frame, neither can the stormtroopers... But ey, it was totally worth the surprise plot twist of Sabine comming to help Ashoka instead of escaping with Ezra! (Not really...)
Really brings home how fragile life can be. Guy was coherent, articulate and fit enough to where Rosario was saying she kinda had to really defend herself while doing the duel scenes. And then poof, gone. Cherish every moment and value every interaction you can because you never know when life is going to do a rug pull on you.
Producer: "Whats the defining characteristic of Ashoka?" Writer: "She is extremely agile and nimble, her fighting style is all jumps and graceful dancing like moves, maybe the quickest jedi we have ever seen" Producer: "Ok, so ill cast someone for the role that can barely move, someone that looks like a 80 years old lady that just had hip replacement surgery"
I remember there used to be a formula for coming up with a Star Wars name. I don't remember exactly but something to the effect of putting the first 3 letters of your first name together with the last 3 letters of your last name and that would be the first name of your Star Wars character and then you'd like start spinning around in a circle really really fast for 15 seconds. Once you stop, you open your mouth and the first sound you make is the last name of your Star Wars character, I think.
There are some excellent Andor videos here on yt. They explain things one would hardly even notice. Everything in Andor from the dialogue to the stage decor was placed with intention. They have videos showing contrasts of the way characters stand to the placement of objects which are easter eggs for hardcore fans.
Dear Hollywood Writers, if you want your characters to live, don't give them mortal wounds. You think it makes the audience scared for the character but it's the opposite, we see the plot armor and we just laugh at the writing.
Lucas turned the Force into bacteria and then Disney turned hyperdrive into a super powerful weapon and lightsabers into sparkly tickleswords. The mythos and the physics of the Star Wars universe have been broken repeatedly, not for the better.
Disney: Getting impaled by a lightsaber is meaningless. Qui Gon Jin: Am I joke to you? Edit: Oh God, what have I done, I was just trying to make a joke, not start an argument.
He got stabbed through the spine, and the duel with Maul continued for several minutes while he lay dying. Wheras Sabine's wound was though her side, and she got medical attention immediately afterwards.
@@mr.stuffdoer8483Maul survived through pure hate and Darkseid ability you could say, but I do agree it’s s stupid that he did I even like the character. The Disney stabbing are literally a joke and slap in the face.
I love the fact that Sabine and Ezra are surrounded by Stormtroopers. Shin Hatti orders the troopers to kill the two. Ezra then put his hands up and shouts *"Wait, let's talk"* *And the Troopers actually hold their fire!?* Shin Hatti literally has to order them a second time to kill them before they actually start shooting.
My theory is that a lot of the weird decisions, especially in Filoni helmed shows, comes down to his history in the animated Star Wars tv series where there was a little (or a lot) more leeway for silliness and where outsized characters expressions could convey moods far more effectively than live actors. I see a lot of the DNA of Rebels and Clone Wars in the Disney Live Actions shows . . . but what works in a fairly low deaf 22 minute episodic adventure, feels very underwhelming in a prestige streaming series.
@@Bustermachine I can understand that in a cartoon completely, but in a live action setting it makes everyone look stupid. Much like the scene where ahsoka knows that sabine and ezra are in trouble, spots Balen standing all alone, minding his own business. Then jumps down in front of him, starts a small duel, only to tell him that she doesn't have time to deal with him. Ahsoka, if you don't have time to deal with him, why the hell did you go out of your way to fight him when you knew from the start that your friends were in trouble!?
Disney's logic is: All you need to do to be able to use the Force is just to BELIEVE IN YOURSELF, lmao. No training, no the Force sensitivity.... NO. A good affirmation is all you need! 🤣 Apparently, the Force/ Jedi/ Sith are not that special anymore... 😔
I love the fact that this OtHeR gALaXy has literally one planet, that has one tower and a meadow, where Ezra and Thrawn lives. Convenient! Cos if the galaxy was well, galaxy-sized (like one might wrongfully assume), it would’ve been giga hard (and even interesting) to search for the two particular individuals.
I suppose the argument is the space whales always jump between Point A and Point B, so Thrawn and Ashoka are both going to land in Point B, and then she can find him. But the counter-argument is Thrawn has been missing for 10 whole years and has a functional space ship. Why on Tower and Meadow did he and Ezra stay within 100 yards of their drop-off point?
Yeah see the whole 10 years has gone by throws me off. Nobody thought about trying to find a space whale earlier to go find Ezra? Sabine and Hera watched him jump with the space whale, and I forget who brought the whales over with a frequency, but someone should have asked "how did ezra get a space whale to eat thrawn's ship" and figured that out how to find them.
This settup payoff was the only thing left that I cared about in SW. Let's go to a new galaxy with new characters and have a new adventure. Nope. You get gold stormtroopers and zombie stormtroopers and stolen crappier versions of legends characters. If you look at the droves of creative people who are ready to pour out their star wars ideas next to this show its just embarrassing. Actually, I canceled my D+ when I saw how boring they portrayed Thrawn (breathes into paper bag)
@@JacobL228 What was that HORRIBLE line they had? It was something like "You don't get it, Bruce. Women are always angry!!!" If I had actually watched that show and seen that line, I think I would've broken my TV.
Well tbf Sabine was around real jedi for quite some time. She saw them train. She saw them use force abilties. She was even trained by one (yeah yeah Ahsoka was never really a full fledged jedi but she is the last good guy alive and present who recieved training while Jedi Order was still a thing... rip Kanan). Rey on the other hand had literally nothing except stories from Han and she was able to do the mind control trick like it's nothing... or keep a spaceship from flying away - something even Obi Wan couldn't apparently do. Force push/pull are basics comapred to that.
@@Killer4fun If you're around people with red hair, you don't suddenly develop the ability to grow red hair. Being force-sensitive is (or isn't) in your blood; it's not a skill you can develop, especially not through osmosis.
you forgot the part where Thrawn's star destroyer was loaded with the MacGuffin widgets hours before Ahsoka and Friends were anywhere close, but inexplicably chose to wait around and send stormtrooper banta fodder roadblocks rather than just leaving.
Plus they only send like 20 stormtroppers to fight 3 Jedi, then just send 2 Tie fighters, and then after they easily defeat them, he just sends another 20 stormtroppers again. An Empire Battlestar has 10,000 stormtroppers on it and 72 Tie Fighters.
Which I always thought was dumb because Disney decided to turn that scene from episode 4 into a joke throughout the franchise. They were instructed to miss by Vader so they could follow them back to their rebel base, which they did. Obi-Wan even says their aim is very precise. So now every scene they are in is a complete and other joke which offers no threat to the protagonist. Like seriously are you telling me that out of all the storm troopers that have went to go train, don’t know how to shoot? It’s like if the US military was made fun of because everyone is constantly missing despite their training. Your telling me everyone sucks at shooting? Star Wars is a complete joke now.
The fact that everyone assumed Stormtroopers have bad aim is just further evidence that nobody was listening to the dialogue when they watched Star Wars: A New Hope.
@@godofthecripples1237 oh wait, so the starship-surfing and melee combat with other spacecraft was meant to be fan service? I only saw the 3D Clone Wars. Sadly have not watched any Tartakovksy 2D Clone Wars, I assume that's where this happened before?
@@Vastad No, it's not a direct callback to anything, just in the same vein as the sort of stunts you'd see Anakin attempting in TCW or the Ghost Crew in Rebels. It's very similar to some events in the ladder, actually.
That's not Star Wars; it's Disney's bastardization of Star Wars. As long as there are infallible black, gay, or female characters, the writing quality doesn't matter to them.
Ryan skipped an entire set of characters and ‘plot’ (about General Hera) while correctly explaining all the main beats. So at least episode’s worth of stuff that added nothing
@@CaptainLuckyLuke I don't watch the show, but I've seen images from The Last Of Us -- specifically of Anna Torv (who is a beautiful woman) wearing no beauty makeup and definitely looking like someone would in a post-apocalyptic world.
I love the small break at 1:53 After all the ridiculous shit ryan has had to describe through the years Ahsoka fighting ships in space with her lightsaber takes the cake
The funny part is that "Tibia" is waaay more of a Star Wars-y name than Shin. Never forget that "Elan Sleazebaggano" is still official star wars canon.
The problem is that it isn’t an Ahsoka show. It’s a rebels sequel masquerading as an Ahsoka show. This show should have been animated. There is no doubt.
@@Rocket1377 Which might have resulted in a much better finished product. In animation, the writers are forced to streamline dialogue due to animation budget constraints.
I thought the same thing the whole show. I could imagine every frame as a cartoon, which is not a good thing for live action. Whereas, it's impossible to imagine Andor as anything but dramatic live action. Filoni is a good cartoon writer but you can't use the same cartoon logic and direction in live action.
It still would've sucked because the character writing was just bad. Ahsoka has no personality at all, Sabine is a moron who gets bested all the time, Ezra is a putz who wasn't worth it. Even Thrawn feels a bit like an idiot. This show didn't even come close to its potential.
As a big fan of SW Rebels, it didn't feel like a Rebels sequel. Also the writing wasn't of the same caliber that Rebels was, was very, 'watered down', almost like it wasn't really written by the same people who wrote Rebels (I know who has the credits; still it just felt 'off'). Hated that the main Mandalorian character is a pre-Jedi all of a sudden, she was such a badass Mando and actually had a good story arc about being a Mandalorian throughout the Rebels series. Also that other characters were missing was jaring (again, as a Rebels fan here). Such a big build up over years to see them find Ezra, and the result was luke warm and not Luke Skywalker (sorry, couldn't resist).
I'm sure someone has mentioned it, but the character Sabine is an established rebel/Mandalorian character from the show SW: Rebels. Not once in that show is she shown to be even remotely Force sensitive. But the Ahsoka show just retconned her entire character because... only if you're a Jedi you're interesting I guess (I say this as someone who loves the Jedi). I mean, the Ahsoka show also broke some very important lore and established canon by making Sabine, for no good or logical reason, a Jedi, but go off I guess. The Ahsoka show really said, "If you just *believe hard enough* you too can become Force sensitive!"
I stopped watching the series, apart from being boring, mainly because I saw that was going to be the case, and it basically destroys all the Star Wars canon. Another "Star Wars show" to the trash can of content I don't consider canon cause it mess with everything previously stated.
Somehow, the two best characters in this show are Ahsoka, who just stands around and smirks, and Baylan, who just stands around and says ambiguous things.
@@shok24199That's because they say almost nothing throughout the entire season. They avoid cheesy lines by simply having none, lol. Still, I agree. I do think they're the best characters in the series and decent characters overall.
I had an issue with this too but at least they address it in the show by mentioning many times that Sabine is the least force sensitive jedi ever, and ahsoka takes her on because they're both untraditional Jedis blabla and even Ezra when he finds out about ahsoka taking Sabine on as an apprentice is like oh... Why? Not saying it makes sense but at least they don't just totally ignore it and go yep she was always jedi
Did you forget that Sabine Wren was a trained Mandalorian versed in basic Mando combat, an explosives expert, an expert marksman, a super talented engineer that no one could copy, a talented repair technician that is able to repair anything like ship engines and weapons, is able to defeat Clone Wars veteran Mandalorian soldiers like Gar Saxon in 1v1 combat, attended in the Imperial Academy, was a fantastic Tie fighter pilot, designed a super weapon (without any help) that baffles other Imperial/Rebel/Mandalorian Engineers, was a famous Bounty Hunter throughout the Galaxy and had other Bounty Hunters owe her favors, is able to wield a lightsaber without the force and fight Jedi 1v1, comes from a famous Mandalorian family (which is basically Royalty) and was a well known Galactic Artist because of her famous art......all before the age of 14 years old! And now she's a Jedi and Force sensitive. Even surviving getting stabbed by a Lightsaber. 😂
Yeah, they turned a cool character into one that's good at everything and has no flaws. Now she's just a boring Mary-Sue character that doesn't need to rely on anyone, which was what Rebels was all about: a group of powerful, yet flawed people learning to rely on each other, but who needs character growth when you have plot armor?
@@queencerseilannister3519I don't think Mary Sue is nearly enough at this point. Girl got more credentials then basically every surviving mandalorian combined and she's still a teenager
Between Sabine in Ahsoka and Reva in Obi Wan, it seems lightsaber wounds really aren't that dangerous. I think if I were using one I'd make a point of slicing sideways after an attack so it was more than just a puncture wound. Just be safe, you know.
It makes sense if the lightsaber does not hit any organs. If it doesn't hit anything vital, you've just got a hole in you, and it's been instantly cauterized because of the lightsaber
If we were being realistic, based on what a lightsaber is shown to do to a blast door, the human body would violently erupt around the entire region of the impaling due to the intense heat reacting with the moisture of the body. It would be catastrophic.
I love how lightsabers cutting capacities can shift from killing someone with one stab, them not killing, them it has trouble to cut a metal door and suddenly it rips off a ships wing in the space like butter
"That Thrawn guy is supposed to be really smart. But writing smart characters is hard, so I just made him good at finding silver linings when his plans fail instead, and hopefully that will make it look like he's a strategic genius."
*Ezra:* Hey so how did you find me anyways must've been very much an inconvenience for you all *Sabine:* gonna need you to hop all the way off my back about it *Ezra:* oh okay lemme just get offa that thing.
Start of series: Sabine can't move a coffee cup with force and Huyang droid states she not really gifted with midichlorians to chose her for Jedi training. End of Series: Sabine uses lightsaber to deflect intense blaster fire and flings Ezra a few hundred feet through the air using the force. So Strong! So Brave!
To be fair, 2/3 of that jump was Ezra doing a force jump with Sabine pushing him the rest of the way. Still seems like too much for someone who just unlocked their Force abilities.
4:22 Okay to be fair, she didn't actually *decide* to land next to Baylan. Baylan saw her ship as it was coming in and intercepted her. And the reason she didn't just land in the middle of the fight is because Huyang refused to do so because it was against mission protocol.
Thanks for clearing up the plot of Ahsoka for me. I literally had no idea where the story was supposed to be going. And now you have explained it was headed down the toilet…
What is there not to understand? They were going to get Ezra and Thrawn. And they dd. And that's pretty much it. They did the thing. It was obviously a bad idea, but nobody cares, because they had a brief happy moment.
@@MartijnVos My confusion lies in why they called this show Ahsoka. It was about everyone else BUT Ahsoka. Which to me leaves the show without focus or direction. Find Thrawn. Find Ezra. Train Sabine. Jump in a starfish and see where it goes. Its just nuts. If the show was gonna be 24 episodes, then yeah, maybe do all that stuff, but there was no way they were gonna pull all this together cohesively in 8 episodes. Its all over the place. At least thats how it was for me.
As soon as I saw them skip over Ezra’s feelings about his sacrifice being wasted and the non-lethal lightsaber to the gut, then lightsabers can take out a stormtrooper with a mild glancing blow, I knew the pitch meeting would be brutal.
It became such a joke. They hack and slack, and all that does now is surface cuts. that scene in the tower when those 2 troppers got force pulled left and right of her, she clearly cuts them in half - if this wasnt a kids show. but then, sliced troopers not very useful as zombies! same with the end fights vs the witch, 2 saber through the belly, she should have been cut like Darth Maul ...
I binged all of Rebels before watching this show, and I actually really liked it. So when I came into this new show and it turned out to be a Rebels sequel fanfic, I didn't actually mind all that much. I can't imagine being a fan of Ahsoka (the character) right now, though, especially one who hasn't seen Rebels. Probably a lot like being a Boba Fett fan, except at least she's only been around a for decade or so. Fett fans had half a century of buildup before getting _their_ hopes slowly run over by rainbow vespas.
"Actually it's gonna be super easy, barely an inconvenience" is slowly starting to become my favorite phrase after binging a lot of these pitch meetings
This is like a show generated by stormtroopers shooting at plot points at the firing range, with the best plot points about 300 feet away, which no stormtrooper can hit.
Ryan really hits my expectation on this pitch meeting better than my expectation and the result I got from watching the actual show. During the show I was like "yeah this part will be on pitch meeting" and it did!
The "Ahsoka jumps out of the ship and meets Baylan" part is so ridiculously silly to me. I mean what happened there? Did Ahsoka specifically jump out where she sensed Baylan to be? If so: why, if she had no intention of defeating him? Did he sense her and seek her out? If so, why did Ahsoka jump out this far away from her friends who are in danger? Was it just a coincidence? Aside from how ridiculous the odds of that happening are, again, why would she jump out of the ship this far away from her friends? Even with it being left vague, I can't think of a single scenario where this makes a lick of sense.
Maybe she landed there to steal Baylan's howler. If she would have landed near her friends, Baylan could have gotten there fast with his howler. So, she landed near Baylan, had Huyang distract him, so she could take his howler, preventing him from interfering. I know Baylan said he wouldn't help Shin, but maybe he would only go after Ahsoka and not interfere with the rest.
@@hvandijken5905 And how would she have even known that he had a Howler? Or that Baylan was there and alone? Sabine had to specifically open her mind and reach out to be sensed by Ahsoka and the Witches. Baylan definitely did not.
@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel You are asking good questions, I agree it's left way too vague, but I like coming up with explanations. I was thinking, maybe after a dangerous battle, force users get a special connection and can sense eachother more easily, they are drawn to one another. For example how Kenobi keeps running into Maul or how easily Anakin finds Ventress when Ahsoka is on trial. If that's the case, then scratch my previous take. Then it's just that they're drawn to one another and from there on she just wings it and steals the howler because she feels she's wasting time having a hard time fighting Baylan while her friends need her. edit: I'm now also thinking of how this could make sense with Vader and Luke sensing eachother's presence after their first fight. I always thought it was because of the family ties, but then why can't Vader sense Leia?
It's because Disney Star Wars' actual problem is not 'wokeness', or what not, it's the fact that it's powered almost purely by callbacks. Almost everything about Disney Star Wars is founded in sapping meaning from previous Star Wars installments. Much as the Disney Live Action remakes are built on sapping meaning from the animated classics. Everything about Ahsoka is about waving the payoff in everyone's face, and then bum rushing for that pay off through a series of big shiny action set pieces.
@Bustermachine Really this. It’s not just Disney, either, it’s all the major production companies with the “Let’s try to make this happen again, it clearly makes money” while pointing at something that worked 30, 20, even 5 years ago. To much risk aversion, too much nostalgia fishing, too many callbacks, too little freedom to fail. And to be clear, a lot of this (my perspective at least) comes from the producer levels focusing on bottom line and red/black ink overriding or negatively shaping the other levels where the creativity is happening. Not exclusively, but “Think of the shareholders” is what’s driving quality down.
@@jlighter1 I think this comes from the disaster that was "Treasure Planet", despite being a masterpiece of a movie, it was ahead of its time. Now Disney is like "Nah, lets keep it safe". Just look at Wish to see that statement in motion.
2:27 "She learns is better to live than to die, She didn't already know that? Apparently not." This is GOLD!!
"People die if they are killed!"
When it comes right down to it, there's zero empirical evidence that life is better than death. We're just making assumptions and running on inertia. No one's actually come back with a first hand report on the subject after all - and no, a few moments of technical brain death doesn't qualify. What kind of basis for judgement would that be? Your first few seconds of independent life after you're a womb-parasite aren't typical of the rest of your life either, especially if some random stranger immediately starts slapping you around to remind you to breathe like an old Warner Brothers cartoon.
Plenty of religions claim that if you do what they tell you dying is definitely where you get to the good part, even. Funny how none of their leaders offer to go first and talk about speeding up the queue for everyone else.
Yep! Sums up how I felt after that event. I was like... what did she overcome exactly? Her master being evil I guess?
@@Alec0124 Her habit of calling her Master silly nicknames?
Sums up Marvel, Star Wars and all of the CW shows: People learning lessons they 1000% already learned
I always enjoy how lightsaber stabbings somehow never turn into full-on dismemberings even though dragging a lightsaber through someone's body is super easy, barely an inconvenience.
The funniest part is that it is so ridiculously easy that the famous "super easy, barely an inconvenience" isn't even accurate because there is zero inconvenience. Seriously, just stay in place and do nothing. The other person will dismember themselves while collapsing.
Ratings. Disney in reality is not going to release an R rated show or movie. Especially for a franchise like star wars which has broad appeal.
@@VanceydressBurning people, beheading, and child murder got PG-13.
full-on dismemberings are tight!
getting stabbed with a light saber would cause a person to explode...it's hot enough to melt through blast shields.
The entire thing is pure gold.
Perfect one
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Unlike ahsoka... AMIRITE?
Amezing❤❤
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The dedication of Ryan for cutting and regrowing his hair between each line is impressive.
😂😂.
As a bald guy I can only ask: 'is it possible to learn this power?'
Not from a bald guy...
His hair works like a Play-Doh kit.
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I like how Ryan seemed to legitimately have trouble keeping a straight face while describing Ahsoka fight ships.
They are testing how much stupid they can get away with
@RepentandbelieveinJesusChrist5yea whatever😂
I mean that's something she's done since the Clone Wars.
@@karakillgrave8105 I never saw it.
@@jeffgoode9865 It's a great piece of extant Star Wars cannon.
Long live Producer Guy and Writer Guy, who are of course two distinct people
you can see both have differnt hairstyles
I have a bad face recognition skills so I really thought these were 2 different people for a while😂
It's Ryan and George
Proving that is super easy, barely an inconvenience.
I mean, of course they are. Why would you even say that?
Thank you for calling out the arm-crossing.
It really bothered me, too much really, that Ahsoka is standing around all smug like for almost the ENTIRE series!
And she honestly had nothing to be smug about. That's just how she was in The Clone Wars, so they copied that for nostalgia's sake.
@@JacobL228in the beginning of Clone Wars to.
She really was like that in the cartoon but maybe you leave it out because yeah I don't know because it's a freaking CARTOON!
@@ShizawnSanders No, it's because she was a kid then, and most kids act like that. Acting the same as an adult is just dumb.
IKR? It's almost like they didn't realize the reason we all liked Ahsoka in the first place was because she grew up and had character development... but hey, when has a 50 something been cringe for acting like a teen? I mean, Tsunade was 50 something but actively made herself look and act like a drunk 29 year old...
"Tickled by a lightsaber" is the best way to describe a lightsaber fight made by Disney
Maul was cut in half
Qui gon in force ghost heaven like 🙄😢
What, it's only several-thousand-degree plasma flash frying your internal organs, and from that angle also your spinal cord. Walk it off you pussy.
@@SeanTanktopand is also a Sith apprentice who can use his anger to stay alive, and also went batshit insane.
Meanwhile the grand inquisitor who is nowhere near as strong as Maul survives being stabbed with literally no consequences. Same with Sabine
Definitely better than the light saber fights in the original trilogy. Those were like toddlers playing power rangers 😂😂. think you're confusing Disney with those😅.
You forgot to mention that after finding Thrawn, Ahsoka doesn't seem to care about him getting away again... It's like she was just needed to check it off the bucket list.
That does kind of make sense, as everyone else was saying she never cared about Thrawn except as an excuse to get to Ezra.
Of course that interpretation has its own big issues.
One of the major problems with this show is that most of the main characters don't seem to give a shit about anything so there are no stakes. Ahsoka is nonplussed about Thrawn getting away. Sabine is stabbed by a lightsaber but no big deal. No consequences. She finds Ezra and it's like, "Yo, what up?" If the characters don't care then we're not going to care as an audience.
@@KevinBrian Yea, the lack of urgency was really off putting.
@@TalesofStories Seriously. If the characters don't seem to care that much, why should we?
what really infuriated me was when Ahsoka in the very last episode turns to Sabine and says "You did good". What. The. F***? Its like the characters have reached some kind of awareness of their infinite plot armor and therefore act extra careless and casual with unleashing absolutely massive threats to the galaxy, because in the end it will all work out somehow. Nothing matters, when they are stuck in a story dead end somehow, the bad writers will just spawn random space whales or some other deus ex machina shit. It is all a big cartoon now. I think after Andor S2 I will be done with Star Wars untill they throw out that hack writer Filoni
Fun pitch meeting, but Ryan missed one trick, which is pointing out that Sabine's light sword stabbing was barely an inconvenience, but Morgana's light sword stabbing killed her dead on the spot.
This occurred to me too. Maybe she was wearing plot armour.
Morgana was double light sword slashed in the belly, much worse than poked in the belly. Then there was the time Maul was cut in half and fell into the core of a planet and got robot legs as a reward.
Morgan was slashed across the abdomen with a lightsaber and another magic sword. Apparently, slashing is immediately lethal, but stabbing is only a mild inconvenience.
@@swimmingmide"poked in the belly" is a funny way of saying being cooked alive at thousands of degrees.
Also, Maul shouldve stayed dead, so thats not exactly the good point you think it js.
@@fissilewhistle, lightsabers cauterizes wound they make, so being stab in stomach is just very painful. It wouldn’t be deadly for regular sword if you get treated write away because the only reason you would die is bleeding to death, which doesn’t happen with lightsaber.
I love how Ryan can destroy a show by simply describing what happens.
The writing destroyed the show
I don't. It makes me really sad actually.
@@dlb3890 Yeah... D. Baloney didn't need Ryan's help destroying this show. As Obi-Wan said, "You have done that yourself, Baloney."
Giving no conclusion at all and Sabine go from not being able to use the force to being a expert and throwing someone into a ship.. I enjoyed it enough until that finale.. Dang.
@@colester167 It's sad that Disney has changed the Force from a rare skill that takes time to master and become proficient with into a skill everyone is instantly good at if they just believe in it enough.
I love the almost-laugh when describing Ahsoka getting out of the ship to swipe at the pew-pews.
😂
Yeah...a point so dumb even Ryan can't help but break character just describing what happens...
I’ve yet to see any Marvel or Star Wars shows, but I have seen every pitch meeting, so I feel up to date.
😳wow really, that's cool
That’s a wise decision. There have been literally thousands of better films and TV shows that have been produced over the past century. You’re better off spending your time watching those
Same here
Id give Andor a watch id say its worth it but yeah the rest isnt much
@@gregbors8364Only recently. Before Disney acquired Marvel and Star Wars (especially Star Wars), they where peak cinema. Andor is excellent though.
I can't believe Ryan kept cutting his hair and growing it back out between filming each side. He must've started this pitch before Ahsoka was even announced! A true visionary. 🤯
'Work harder not smarter'. Lol
I couldn't not see that!
I swear, I suggested this idea in his comments on a recent video!
@@ChickenOfMajesty"Well okay then!"
? They’re 2 different people
Suprised he didn't talk about the crab people having 3x more screentime than both the main villains combined in the finale
I dubbed them the E-Rocks... after a buddy of mine said it was the series ewok wanna bees...
They needed to focus on the merchandise.
Crab people, crab people.
To quote: Merch!
Probably cuz that is not true
When he said "who's this Tibia person that attacked Sabine" XD had me on the floor😂
I do not get that joke at skl
@@hunterscott-thomas1510Tibia is a bone on your leg. Like shin (the girls name)
@@hunterscott-thomas1510 Tibia is the shin bone's proper name. Shin is the characters name.
1:50 Even scriptwriter guy can't help but laugh at how ridiculous it was for Ahsoka to get out of the ship.
@@esuomi When in clone wars did somebody get out of their ship and cut a fighter in half while making a cartwheel in outer space?
@@esuominot Sequel trilogy
"Look people, we've had so much of hand-to-hand and ship-to-ship combat, we really need to shake things up, do something fresh. Any ideas?"
"How about.... hand-to-ship combat?"
"AWESOME!"
@@esuomijust cause it was in a cartoon doesn't mean it will translate to live action,it looked very stupid and comical
@@DrMcFly28😂😂😂
Watching the pitch meeting instead of the actual show is tight!!!
It sure is!
This 👆- 100% of this!
He covered the whole season in 6 minutes
Does anyone watch those series anymore aside from the people who do video about them?
I think he actually crammed more story in than the season did :x.
Hands down. Disneys whole strategy is solely done to provide enough content for years of pitch meetings to come.
I appreciate that
zzz
this show is hands down more entertaining than anything out of Disney Star Wars!
I honestly believe Disney is addicted to hate-baiting people into watching deliberately bad media. It just feels too consistent, their response to pushback is to double down as if the pushback is the point
except the OG MCU movies which were amazing
@@Ghost.uppercut There were many good movies made by Disney in the past. They might even make some in the future. Nobody is saying they never made good movies, just that the general quality of their movies has decreased drastically over the last 5-10 years (the beginning of the badness might go further back, but that's around when it got significant).
OG MCU movies started a whole franchise because the first few were so well received. The whole world got interested in comic book characters, something that was once a semi shameful thing to admit liking when speaking with non-nerds.
It's sad to see it all go down the drain, but at least we can still watch those golden oldies
I started watching the show.. and thought I would have to watch it through it for continuity.. but then I remembered this channel and now I get the important stuff without the suffering. You're a godsend, sir!
Between Ryan George and The Critical Drinker I have been saved from wasting a lot of time watching pure trash. :)
“It’s better to live, than to die.”
Is the peak Disney writing we need
A stone looks down, and sinks…. or something
Honestly in 2023 maybe that's not a bad thing to remind people of 😂
@samblack5313 but boats look up (I decided which ways boats "look") and because of that they..fly or something? Idk I'm waiting for the books to come out
"Somehow .... Sabine survived"
I see it as an insult to the fans, they are saying "no matter how bad we make this franchise you will still watch it"
“What else?”
“Not much.”
Sums it up perfectly right there.
Ahsoka has been the most pointless and disappointing character in the live action universe. That's why she doesn't have an arc in her own TV show
"Tibia lady" had me laughing a lot harder than it probably should have.
It's the simple things.
I don't get it 😕
Her name is Shin. Tibia is a leg bone
@@Warriorcats64my eyes rolled back into my skull by the end of your comment. Well done.
I was going to give some love to Tibia/Shin too.
I can't believe Writer Guy never mentioned the fact that Tibia Lady did not blink once in the whole series
Can we just acknowledge the biggest crime of this show? If you take Ahsoka out of this story, not that much changes. Thrawns robots would have still found the map. They probably would have figured out how to open it. And they would have got him back at which point the Republic would have pulled their heads out of the sand and acknowledged he's returned. The only difference is Ezra who seems like he could have easily stowed away on the ship on the way back and who admittedly is going to give the Republic a heads up that Thrawns' back. Which given their track record, the Republic still won't believe it.. And even if we acknowledge that Ezra coming back is because of Ahsoka's actions, it's more because of Sabine's actions.
I cannot believe I predicted this was going to happen when they announced this show two years ago. If a show is named after a specific character in Star Wars, that is now a dead guarantee that the show won't actually be about them
I never thought about that...yeah, the whole thing really didn't need to happen
What if... they made a show called 'Disney'? Could that erase that disgrace to the entertainment industry, that hydra studio has become?
No, the most ridiculous suspension of disbelief moment which exposes the axiom flaw in the premise is how anyone would know there's a map to the location of Thrawn?
I think the greater sin nobody talks about is how they stole the weird ball map thing from Treasure Planet, the underrated better story.
Yet another show/movie where I’m far more hyped for the pitch meeting than the actual show/movie
At this point I am not even consider to watch the show. I just turn to the Pitch Meeting and, voila, another garbage show avoided.
To true
@@emorsiWatching pitch meeting instead of the actual show is tight.
‘She learns it’s better to live than to die.’
‘Did she not know that?’ 😂
"Apparently not"
To be fair, how can you know, until you've tried both?
The show was unclear on the lesson but I think people are purposefully being dense about this. He’s not telling her it’s better to live, it’s not like she’s choosing to not live. He’s making her fight for her life internally. She’s literally unconscious and drowning. He’s showing her how to survive.
@@king_supreme1102Now tell me was Anakin a force ghost? Was this some kinda dimension between dimensions? Was this some weird time dilation realm? Was it all in her head? Was it worth answering these questions for future projects? Should we care at all since the rest of this show drags on and does nothing but set up stuff for season 2?
Can we just appreciate Ryan getting a haircut after recording Screenwriter Guy's lines and before recording Producer Guy's lines.
Who is Ryan? These are two different people.
I was JUST going to say, that is commitment lol.
Lol I noticed that too😊
Buzzing the hair on the side of your head is TIGHT!
@@theLikou1 Ryan and George are the two actors who play the parts of screenwriter and producer guy. They both have several brothers who also play various parts in the Ryanverse. Rumour has it they are from a small village in Canada, very close to a nuclear processing plant. source; Ryanpedia, a full and wholey apocryphal history of Ryan and George.
'Bad guys love having secret maps that lead to them.' LMAO
Nobody talking about how the entire ball map thing is ripped off from Treasure Planet?
You could totally hear Ryan laughing when he describes how Ahsoka fights ships in space.
I loved it!! It was like when people break on SNL!! Sometimes funnier than the joke 😂😂😂😂
ok
Yeah it’s totally like those silly moments in those AWFUL animated shows. Oh wait, those shows are good 🤔. It’s almost as if we pick and choose when we like goofy Star Wars and when it’s beneath us, based on whether we’re supposed to like or hate the show.
@@king_supreme1102you can have goofy in starwars but it has to be earned. Starkiller bringing down a star destroyed from orbit was even more far fetched but it came at a climax and had an entire game of buildup
@@lordilluminati5836 I think you’re confusing goofy with unbelievable. You don’t really earn goofy, it’s either part of the tone or it isn’t.
“She is just immediately that good at using the force?”
“Yes.”
“Well okay then!” 😁
Perfectly sums up that moment.
Reminds me of someone else😮 Rey Skywalker 🤯
Well since Rey nothing surprises me anymore.
Same as Rey. In Disney Star Wars, all you need to do is believe in yourself. Training and dedication are nothing. This was also true for Obi-Wan. He was rusty at using The Force (strange given that he knew he needed to protect young Luke), but once he believed in himself, it all came flooding back.
@@fredrickgarrettsr2632*Rey Palpatine, she usurped the sky walker name after kissing the last one left alive.
Ryan forgot the fact that she showed absolutely no signs of being able to use the Force in her entire original show, despite training in lightsaber combat with her surrogate father that she knew for years. He just somehow never picked up on it lmao.
The fact that someone can survive a lightsaber stabbing is already ridiculous enough, but Disney is going out of its way to make it happen in every single new Star Wars thing and that just leaves me speechless.
Seeing as how Book of Boba Fett didn’t do so well maybe people would like a new Jango Fett series instead? Sure, he was decapitated in Clone Wars, but he was decapitated with LIGHTSABER. How deadly could that really be?
@@VoidMaid They gonna say he actually survived getting his head chop off and bring him back XD
@@VoidMaidHe was decapitated in "Attack of the Clones"
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t that movie specifically covering the clone wars!?
Why does Disney insist on proving again and again to me that cancelling my subscription to their platform was the best choice I made last year?
And now with Acolyte
They ruined the Star Wars franchise
That Shin/Tibia joke was way funnier than it had any right to be. Well done.
I chuckled 😊
Oh human anatomy is tight!
I was surprised I never made the connection until he said it
The "zombie stormtroopers being more terrible than regular terrible stormtrooper" line had me dying.
They're more like a roadblock. Lol!!
They really were
@doofus0123 more like a speed bump really
Haha
@RepentandbelieveinJesusChrist5 no
no one questioning this woman that endangered the entire galaxy for one dude she doesn't even break down or hug or say how much she missed is nuts. Gotta be a strong woman. No emotions allowed here, no sir
Strong women bury their emotions like real men 👍🏻
Yep. She lived in Ezra's old home and liked to play recordings of him giving the impression that she was in love with him but nope.
Also, she sold the galaxy out to the man she believed just killed Ahsoka literally seconds before, doesn't appear to grieve Ahsoka's death in anyway, and only seems mildly pleased at best when Ahsoka isn't dead.
@@christopherhahn8247pretty sure he was a minor when she knew him. Besides, everyone knows Ahsoka is with Lux, and that I’m not hard coping
And don't forget all the crossed arms.
Very glad he called out Sabine betraying the entire galaxy just for a guy. Not a guy with potential like Anakin, just a guy. Who looks like he could be a barista
Yeah. Not even like a lover like someting (even then it whould be ridiculous) just a friend thats it.
@@draw2death421Well, she did love Ezra, just not that way.
@@king_supreme1102You wouldn't know that watching this show
Do they even like each other? I couldn't tell🤷♂️
In the end of the Rebels Ezra asked Sabine to find him
Let’s not forget that there was another entire series where Sabine was one of the main characters and it was not once hinted that she was Force-Sensitive whatsoever
But don't you remember? The force in Disney wars is with EVERYONE! EVERYBODY can become a jedi if they just wish hard enough to a star (possibly a death star).
@@tranquilthoughts7233 And the women are twice as powerful, because the Force is female.
She wielded the dark saber, so she had to be at least force sensitive to do… if you believe the Star Wars lore. Let’s face it the force is midichlorians and they’re fickle at best.
@@markloertscher1022 That means nothing. Lots of people have wielded the dark saber in lore and almost none of them were force sensitive. Anyone can pick up and turn on any lightsaber. This is just some more inexplicable Mary Sue Disney bullshit.
Not only was it not hinted but kanen specifically said that she was NOT force sensitive and thus could not train with a lightsaber.
The Ahsoka show really has outstanding writing...
I did find it amusing that they had Sabine get impaled by a lightsaber but it didn't seriously impede anything, because that's been pretty much an insta-kill in every other piece of Star Wars media.
Except Reva.
Yeah totally, like what can you find in the abdomen of anyone? Organs? Ooh please
Justice for Qui Gon Ginn! He should have gotten up after Darth Maul tickled him too!
Yeah, Disney is in a bit of a pickle. They can't reconcile selling lethal laser swords to six year olds at their theme parks.
@@BJMcKay44 Especially since Maul survived being fucking cut in half. I know people like him for the animated series but come on, bringing him back was awful. If you can survive that, why didn't Qui Gon survive? Why didn't Vader survive a little electric shock from Empy Palps?
1:55 I like that he holds off laughter at Ahsoka fighting spaceships with laser swords
I actually rewound that several times because it was so hilarious
Yeah he actually giggles a little bit
Makes it even more funny
He was thinking, "I'm not making this up guys. A multi-billion dollar enterainment company really did this."
Only time I’ve ever heard him almost break character. Impressive. Especially because of how ridiculous these are.
People keep forgetting - lightsabers are only dangerous if you have an allergy to them. Just carry antihistamines, works a treat.
The bearded actor had a lot of positive comments even from critics - and then he dies in real life. We just can't have nice things, I guess.
*Sabine gets impaled by a lightsaber*
_Sabine: 'Tis but a flesh wound!_
I want Ryan to keep producing this stuff forever. It really cheers me up after a hard day at work. He's comedy gold.
This was less of a pitch meeting and more of a summary. Way too accurate 😂
Thats what these pitch meetings always are 🤨
@@whwhywhywhywhywhywhy I know but this one was super spot on
it was brutal from start to finish hahaha
They always are a summary that point all the silly and nonsensical plot points of a show/movie, are you new? 😂
@@user-mz2ne4yh2t no I’m not, I just really liked this one above all.
My god, how do you keep such a positive sound in your voice while going through all that sarcasm? I'd be rolling on the floor the whole time. I'd never get anything filmed.
The Ashoka show is a perfect example of; "Characters are only as smart as the person writing them."
There is actually a TV Trope about that. I think it's called "Passing around the idiot ball." But basically it's that the characters can only be as smart as the writers need them to be for the plot.
Aptly demonstrated by the way Tyrion Lannister became less clever when GoT got past the books and into unchartered territory.
@@RictusHolloweye Tyrion and Varys turning into complete idiots was so tragic and painful to watch.
@@taste_is_sweetThe Idiot Ball is when characters suddenly get stupid (sometimes with good reason!) so the plot can happen. It's a different thing than everybody constantly being a moron because the writers themselves are too stupid to notice. Or think the audience is too stupid to notice and just don't care; dealer's choice.
To be fair Thrawn was well written as smart in this show, in a way that was as good as the books.
Love how the impact and threat of a lightsaber has been so lessened that a common cold can keep someone out of action longer now. And while I hated the idea of mitochlorians, I'm starting to think it's better than you can use the force if you just wish really, really hard
Eh, I don't mind lightsaber stabs being survivable since that's actually pretty realistic. A hole through your body isn't nearly as lethal as you'd think as long as your heart doesn't get hit, especially when you don't have to worry about blood loss, and Star Wars medical technology should totally be good enough to fix something like that.
As for the midichlorians, they were a minor yet surprisingly vital plot device that everyone misunderstood and overreacted to. Outside of specifically the plot of The Phantom Menace, they're not really important at all.
@@RelativelyBest I'll admit I was speaking mostly in hyperbole.
I agree with the stab not being lethal as long as vital organs are avoided and blood loss is managed. I always assumed the lightsaber cauterized the wounds anyway which would cover blood. It's more the regularity of people getting stabbed and just coming back no problem makes me feel the weapon or the user is ineffective. It's a bigger problem that isn't exclusive with Star Wars but it lessens the risk and therefore loses tension.
The midochlorians I only took issue with the idea that without them (or without a certain amount, I'm not clear on it) you couldn't be force sensitive at all. What I mean here is I'd rather take the worst case of needing them to have access to the force at all over being so capable of doing the force feats in the Disney era Star Wars with no real training. Again, I just feel it takes something that should be impressive and lowers its value when it feels more like a character just levels up and unlocks full force powers.
@@RelativelyBest Why are people so angry abou midichlorians anyways? Imean, force be energy field spanned by (biologically/carboon based) living beings. Midichlorians be symbiotes that do spanning and connecting to it. Pretty simple, and I thought it fit. Is it that they wanted the force to be more mystical?
@@RelativelyBestyeah no a hole through your stomach is pretty bad news. Not to mention that it was burned through.. that much heat and energy boils the surrounding tissue as well
@@RelativelyBest Are you serious? It's more than "just a hole" it's a freaking shaft of plasma hot enough to melt a 3 foot thick blast door, her insides would have vaporized, her organs would have literally exploded, and even if she could have been saved by some insane medical tech or magical force healing power NO ONE was close enough to administer them. No human being should be able to survive being run through with a light saber, period. And, on a side note, all the bad gal had to do was a flick of the wrist and she would have cut Sabine in half, there was literally no good reason to withdraw the light saber cleanly. The show was just pure stupidity on so many levels and this is only one of probably hundreds of examples.
I love how Ryan has kept this kind of content up for years, without ever having a bad episode despite making 2 videos a week since 2018. The respect I have on this man
Well Disney just keeps on giving.
“for this man”
One of the few channels where every video is really good............
2:01
It’s hilarious how this happens in so many movies/shows.
That’s like having a professional marksman with a Barrett .50 Cal dangling on a rope ladder attached to a helicopter above and then just swinging him right at an enemy
If you mean from Ahsoka's POV, at least a .50 Cal would be a ranged weapon, so it’s slightly more plausible that she would be a danger to them at range, meaning coming in close would be less likely anyway.
No I mean a guy with a weapon meant for long range warfare who is chilling at the bottom of a rope ladder attached to a helicopter, then the helicopter flies close to the ground toward a guy with a shotgun so that the dude with a sniper rifle sitting on the rope ladder enters point blank range combat with a dude with a shotgun.
They’re using the long range marksman on the ladder sort of like a wrecking ball or a ball-and-chain flail.
@@Colinkrauss1that's the worst analogy for anything I have ever seen. It's more like a guys with an assault rifle deciding to try to charge a group of guys with swords to engage them with their bayonets. The whole point of a ranged weapon is that you can hit someone from a range where they can't hit you. It's actually harder to shoot someone from very close range. Especially in an aircraft, which is moving fast too fast relative to the target to hit it when you are close. That scene is contrivance to "ten year old playing with his Star Wars toys" level.
@@justforever96 you have been blessed with a life full of nothing but incredible analogies if this is the worst you’ve ever heard
"and nobody calling her out on that" I didn't understand how nobody told how selfish she was, so many people will die because of her decision
Women are above consequences in Disney content.
Even the fans and critics of the show, no one seems to mention the fact she sold out her galaxy for some D she probably never got anyway
They were clearly too stunned by her bravery to hold her accountable. It's a woman's wet dream
I wanted thrawn back so it's automatically fine
The animated Sabine never would have done that, at least not without a plan. Also, there was no indication of her being force sensitive in Star Wars Rebels, so that was clearly just tacked on in a failed attempt to make her seem cooler and make up for how dumb and covered in plot armor she is now.
Love that line, "all the stormtroopers forget that they're holding guns." It's my favorite quote in this whole pitch meeting. Does it capture anybody else's fancy?
So they went full CW?
"We're an army carrying guns fighting one person with a stick. Let's drop our guns and fight within stick distance."
@@thatHARVguy Even worse. During the final showdown between Ahsoka and Morgan, the troopers just stopped fighting altogether to watch the duel.
Plus before Ahsoka shows up they're ordered to shoot them but one of the people who they're going to shoot says "No!" so they don't.
@@khaotika943 Not to mention how they surround Ashoka later, at top of the tower... and while 20 of them are surrounding a single person in a small tower top... none of them spot Sabine, who is right there (she didn't jump after Ezra). Crappy director logic: since the viewers can't see Sabine out of frame, neither can the stormtroopers...
But ey, it was totally worth the surprise plot twist of Sabine comming to help Ashoka instead of escaping with Ezra! (Not really...)
Kinda sums up Disney Star Wars villains
I was so sad when I heard Ray Stevenson died. I loved his role in the show Rome, and he was also fantastic in Vikings.
He was also one of the best Villains on Dexter too.
@LucasLeCompteMusic yes he was - I forgot about that until I read your comment. It's been awhile since I watched Dexter
He was great as Blackbeard in Black Sails, too. And a decent villain in Dexter. He'll be missed.
@@Emanon...was he a villain in the reg Dexter show or when they brought it back? I stopped watched dexter and black sails before Ray I guess
Really brings home how fragile life can be. Guy was coherent, articulate and fit enough to where Rosario was saying she kinda had to really defend herself while doing the duel scenes.
And then poof, gone.
Cherish every moment and value every interaction you can because you never know when life is going to do a rug pull on you.
Producer: "Whats the defining characteristic of Ashoka?"
Writer: "She is extremely agile and nimble, her fighting style is all jumps and graceful dancing like moves, maybe the quickest jedi we have ever seen"
Producer: "Ok, so ill cast someone for the role that can barely move, someone that looks like a 80 years old lady that just had hip replacement surgery"
I honestly think for these Disney shows Ryan could do literally the same pitch over and over and it would fit for almost all of the shows
Are you sure you're being honest?
That's why Andor is the only good thing left in Star Wars.
@@Boeing-777-X Andor was well written but omg it is boring
@@quinnadam3024 Boring for empty minds, perhaps. I find it better than all the previous 11 movies.
@@Boeing-777-X so all of them?
That tibia shin joke was perfectly executed lol
Care to explain? I didn't get it.
@@christopherhahn8247 The tibia is the bone in the front of the leg right below the knee. It's also commonly known as the shinbone.
This joke had legs to stand on.
@@thatHARVguy Dad, is that you?
@@thatHARVguy😂
"Who is this Tibia person?" One of Ryan's funniest lines in quite a while!
Yeah I didn't understand that joke or the part where he says bathes alone when screenwriter guy says Asoka
@@Eastie0 Ahsoka aounds like a soak a, as in, I'm having a soak in the bath.
@@Eastie0 - The tibia is the shin bone.
I remember there used to be a formula for coming up with a Star Wars name. I don't remember exactly but something to the effect of putting the first 3 letters of your first name together with the last 3 letters of your last name and that would be the first name of your Star Wars character and then you'd like start spinning around in a circle really really fast for 15 seconds. Once you stop, you open your mouth and the first sound you make is the last name of your Star Wars character, I think.
@@charlestonjew7587sounds about right 😄
I wish there was one of these for Andor, just like a mostly-positive pitch meeting
There are some excellent Andor videos here on yt. They explain things one would hardly even notice. Everything in Andor from the dialogue to the stage decor was placed with intention. They have videos showing contrasts of the way characters stand to the placement of objects which are easter eggs for hardcore fans.
Just imagine Producer Guy's rapidly escalating depression...
Not cliche enough
It's well thought and not a mind numbing action filler show
Tickled by a lightsaber is a brilliant way to describe just how far such a sacred, mystical weapon has fallen
Yeah, the only thing they're good for now is to use as helicopters.
Dear Hollywood Writers, if you want your characters to live, don't give them mortal wounds. You think it makes the audience scared for the character but it's the opposite, we see the plot armor and we just laugh at the writing.
Lucas turned the Force into bacteria and then Disney turned hyperdrive into a super powerful weapon and lightsabers into sparkly tickleswords. The mythos and the physics of the Star Wars universe have been broken repeatedly, not for the better.
Legit the least dangerous thing in star wars now
@@metheus108
Lucas didn't turn the force into bacteria
Disney: Getting impaled by a lightsaber is meaningless.
Qui Gon Jin: Am I joke to you?
Edit: Oh God, what have I done, I was just trying to make a joke, not start an argument.
He got stabbed through the spine, and the duel with Maul continued for several minutes while he lay dying. Wheras Sabine's wound was though her side, and she got medical attention immediately afterwards.
Maul literally got cut in half, grew robot legs, and teleported halfway across the galaxy, and you all fucking loved it
@@mr.stuffdoer8483 Not really. It was part of a dumb cartoon IMO.
@@mr.stuffdoer8483Maul survived through pure hate and Darkseid ability you could say, but I do agree it’s s stupid that he did I even like the character. The Disney stabbing are literally a joke and slap in the face.
Plus if stabbings were so non-fatal, people wouldn't stab and pull back the blade. They'd move it sideways to cut the person in half.
Stopping in the middle of work to watch a new episode of pitch meetings is TIGHT!
I love the fact that Sabine and Ezra are surrounded by Stormtroopers.
Shin Hatti orders the troopers to kill the two.
Ezra then put his hands up and shouts *"Wait, let's talk"*
*And the Troopers actually hold their fire!?*
Shin Hatti literally has to order them a second time to kill them before they actually start shooting.
My theory is that a lot of the weird decisions, especially in Filoni helmed shows, comes down to his history in the animated Star Wars tv series where there was a little (or a lot) more leeway for silliness and where outsized characters expressions could convey moods far more effectively than live actors.
I see a lot of the DNA of Rebels and Clone Wars in the Disney Live Actions shows . . . but what works in a fairly low deaf 22 minute episodic adventure, feels very underwhelming in a prestige streaming series.
@@Bustermachine I can understand that in a cartoon completely, but in a live action setting it makes everyone look stupid.
Much like the scene where ahsoka knows that sabine and ezra are in trouble, spots Balen standing all alone, minding his own business.
Then jumps down in front of him, starts a small duel, only to tell him that she doesn't have time to deal with him.
Ahsoka, if you don't have time to deal with him, why the hell did you go out of your way to fight him when you knew from the start that your friends were in trouble!?
“She’s just immediately that good at using the Force?”
“YES.” 😂
She must have Rey genes.
Well, the force IS female after all.
Didn’t you know ? The more we progress in this industrial churning out of content the easier it is to learn Force powers !!
It’s obviously sexist against women if we make them struggle to obtain something
Disney's logic is: All you need to do to be able to use the Force is just to BELIEVE IN YOURSELF, lmao. No training, no the Force sensitivity.... NO. A good affirmation is all you need! 🤣
Apparently, the Force/ Jedi/ Sith are not that special anymore... 😔
“And then she realizes its a good thing to be alive and now dresses in light clothes instead of dark clothes”
Oh doing a gandalf is TIGHT!
She probably knew she was going to this desolate place with this big black tower and these big statues.
I love the fact that this OtHeR gALaXy has literally one planet, that has one tower and a meadow, where Ezra and Thrawn lives.
Convenient! Cos if the galaxy was well, galaxy-sized (like one might wrongfully assume), it would’ve been giga hard (and even interesting) to search for the two particular individuals.
I suppose the argument is the space whales always jump between Point A and Point B, so Thrawn and Ashoka are both going to land in Point B, and then she can find him. But the counter-argument is Thrawn has been missing for 10 whole years and has a functional space ship. Why on Tower and Meadow did he and Ezra stay within 100 yards of their drop-off point?
Thrawn didn't stay there. The Mothers had to call for him.@@elonweintraub9758
@@elonweintraub9758 coz that's where the witches lived & they were helping him to get back to the original galaxy :)
Yeah see the whole 10 years has gone by throws me off. Nobody thought about trying to find a space whale earlier to go find Ezra? Sabine and Hera watched him jump with the space whale, and I forget who brought the whales over with a frequency, but someone should have asked "how did ezra get a space whale to eat thrawn's ship" and figured that out how to find them.
This settup payoff was the only thing left that I cared about in SW. Let's go to a new galaxy with new characters and have a new adventure.
Nope. You get gold stormtroopers and zombie stormtroopers and stolen crappier versions of legends characters. If you look at the droves of creative people who are ready to pour out their star wars ideas next to this show its just embarrassing. Actually, I canceled my D+ when I saw how boring they portrayed Thrawn (breathes into paper bag)
Didn't address the fact you need to watch the animated series for anything to make sense or have emotional impact.
So watch it.
I saw Clone Wars and still care ZERO about Ahsoka. She was one of the weakest elements of Clone Wars.
"She's just immediately THAT good at using the force?"
"Yes."
That, right there, is the shortest summary of Episodes 7, 8, & 9 that I've ever seen.
They did that with She-Hulk, too. If you're a woman in a Disney show or movie and you get a superpower, you're immediately an expert at using it.
@@JacobL228 What was that HORRIBLE line they had? It was something like "You don't get it, Bruce. Women are always angry!!!" If I had actually watched that show and seen that line, I think I would've broken my TV.
Well tbf Sabine was around real jedi for quite some time. She saw them train. She saw them use force abilties. She was even trained by one (yeah yeah Ahsoka was never really a full fledged jedi but she is the last good guy alive and present who recieved training while Jedi Order was still a thing... rip Kanan). Rey on the other hand had literally nothing except stories from Han and she was able to do the mind control trick like it's nothing... or keep a spaceship from flying away - something even Obi Wan couldn't apparently do. Force push/pull are basics comapred to that.
@@Killer4fun Rule #1 of cinema: Show don't tell.
@@Killer4fun If you're around people with red hair, you don't suddenly develop the ability to grow red hair. Being force-sensitive is (or isn't) in your blood; it's not a skill you can develop, especially not through osmosis.
Stopping with what your doing and watching Pitch meetings instead is tight!
Yeah,yeah,yeah
Waouw woauw waouw ....waouw
Actually it's super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Like literally!!
O'rly ?
you forgot the part where Thrawn's star destroyer was loaded with the MacGuffin widgets hours before Ahsoka and Friends were anywhere close, but inexplicably chose to wait around and send stormtrooper banta fodder roadblocks rather than just leaving.
After literally saying they could just leave them and they aren't worth the resources minutes prior!
“Sir, should we prepare to load the cargo well in advance just in case we need to leave quickly?“… Thrawn: “Nah “
Poor Mitth'raw'nuruodo, such downfall compared to the books :)
Plus they only send like 20 stormtroppers to fight 3 Jedi, then just send 2 Tie fighters, and then after they easily defeat them, he just sends another 20 stormtroppers again. An Empire Battlestar has 10,000 stormtroppers on it and 72 Tie Fighters.
@@Borg14 well, the empire is known for being stingy. They only sent five AT-AT’s to destroy the entire rebel base. 🤷♂️
Qui Gon must be really mad that everyone keeps surviving light saber stabs so easily now.
Pitch meetings are so on target, unlike stormtroopers.
yeah most of the remaining clone storm trooppers died on the death star. They actually knew how to miss on purpose.
Except when they’re blaster fire happens of screen
I see what you did there
Which I always thought was dumb because Disney decided to turn that scene from episode 4 into a joke throughout the franchise. They were instructed to miss by Vader so they could follow them back to their rebel base, which they did. Obi-Wan even says their aim is very precise. So now every scene they are in is a complete and other joke which offers no threat to the protagonist.
Like seriously are you telling me that out of all the storm troopers that have went to go train, don’t know how to shoot?
It’s like if the US military was made fun of because everyone is constantly missing despite their training. Your telling me everyone sucks at shooting? Star Wars is a complete joke now.
The fact that everyone assumed Stormtroopers have bad aim is just further evidence that nobody was listening to the dialogue when they watched Star Wars: A New Hope.
He actually laughs when describing her fighting space ships with her lightsabers. The absolute state of Star Wars writing lol
Nah, that moment was great. Straight out of The Clone Wars (or Rebels). Unfortunately, the show didn't also get the cartoons' good writing.
well, if that was 'cartoon good' writing... I'll have to pass on those as well.@@godofthecripples1237
@@godofthecripples1237 oh wait, so the starship-surfing and melee combat with other spacecraft was meant to be fan service? I only saw the 3D Clone Wars. Sadly have not watched any Tartakovksy 2D Clone Wars, I assume that's where this happened before?
@@Vastad No, it's not a direct callback to anything, just in the same vein as the sort of stunts you'd see Anakin attempting in TCW or the Ghost Crew in Rebels. It's very similar to some events in the ladder, actually.
That's not Star Wars; it's Disney's bastardization of Star Wars. As long as there are infallible black, gay, or female characters, the writing quality doesn't matter to them.
I always feel like I binge watched the entire show after these.... and missed absolutely nothing.
With the "quality" of modern shows, particularly Disney owned endeavors...you're not missing anything. At all. Whatsoever.
You missed all the long pauses and scenes that changed absolutely nothing in the show.
Ryan skipped an entire set of characters and ‘plot’ (about General Hera) while correctly explaining all the main beats. So at least episode’s worth of stuff that added nothing
He forgot to mention that the life forms in an entirely separate galaxy are also bilaterally symmetrical humanoids/quadrupeds
@@professorhazard but more than that: the atmosphere is freaking breathable for our heroes. (but thats star wars in general i guess)
"Stopping a fart is tight"
Lol, one of the best usage of the catchphrase! 😂
He literally said that line just as I laid eyes on your comment
Spooky eh 😂
"Is that not bad?"
"Not anymore, no. That's meaningless. She's up and at 'em in the next episode."
I especially like the part when Ahsoka crosses her arms in the middle of the battle for the castle ..that was tight.
There was a real missed opportunity on how Sabine basically has permanent makeup on the entire show.
Thought i was the only one who found that off but just figured, space make up
“The darkside of the force is a pathway to many makeup products some would consider to be unnatural.”
- Sabine probably (idk)
@@CaptainLuckyLuke you aren't wrong, but Sabine's is egregious. She was kept captive on a ship for days and still her eyeshadow on.
@@politicalpolarbear fan service maybe
@@CaptainLuckyLuke I don't watch the show, but I've seen images from The Last Of Us -- specifically of Anna Torv (who is a beautiful woman) wearing no beauty makeup and definitely looking like someone would in a post-apocalyptic world.
I love the small break at 1:53 After all the ridiculous shit ryan has had to describe through the years Ahsoka fighting ships in space with her lightsaber takes the cake
Someone really did watch Rise of Skywalker & thought they'd give the 'scavenger hunt to a deadly dictator' story mechanic another go, didn't they?
At least the map wasn't made hundreds if not thousands of years before the thing it led to this time.
Filoni unfortunately loves that movie considering he literally had a character say, "The Emperor's dead." and another go, "Or so I heard."
The tibia joke... phenomenally delivered and delightfully clever! I just wanted to make sure that got the credit it was do 😂
lol 'it was do'
The funny part is that "Tibia" is waaay more of a Star Wars-y name than Shin.
Never forget that "Elan Sleazebaggano" is still official star wars canon.
The problem is that it isn’t an Ahsoka show. It’s a rebels sequel masquerading as an Ahsoka show. This show should have been animated. There is no doubt.
Yes, or called it something else. Ahsoka really wasn't the focus of the story, it was all about Sabine, Thrawn, and Ezra.
@@Rocket1377 Which might have resulted in a much better finished product. In animation, the writers are forced to streamline dialogue due to animation budget constraints.
I thought the same thing the whole show. I could imagine every frame as a cartoon, which is not a good thing for live action. Whereas, it's impossible to imagine Andor as anything but dramatic live action. Filoni is a good cartoon writer but you can't use the same cartoon logic and direction in live action.
It still would've sucked because the character writing was just bad. Ahsoka has no personality at all, Sabine is a moron who gets bested all the time, Ezra is a putz who wasn't worth it. Even Thrawn feels a bit like an idiot. This show didn't even come close to its potential.
As a big fan of SW Rebels, it didn't feel like a Rebels sequel. Also the writing wasn't of the same caliber that Rebels was, was very, 'watered down', almost like it wasn't really written by the same people who wrote Rebels (I know who has the credits; still it just felt 'off').
Hated that the main Mandalorian character is a pre-Jedi all of a sudden, she was such a badass Mando and actually had a good story arc about being a Mandalorian throughout the Rebels series.
Also that other characters were missing was jaring (again, as a Rebels fan here).
Such a big build up over years to see them find Ezra, and the result was luke warm and not Luke Skywalker (sorry, couldn't resist).
They wrote Ashoka like a damn cameo in her own show. You should be able to recognize snips in this adaptation.
I'm sure someone has mentioned it, but the character Sabine is an established rebel/Mandalorian character from the show SW: Rebels. Not once in that show is she shown to be even remotely Force sensitive. But the Ahsoka show just retconned her entire character because... only if you're a Jedi you're interesting I guess (I say this as someone who loves the Jedi). I mean, the Ahsoka show also broke some very important lore and established canon by making Sabine, for no good or logical reason, a Jedi, but go off I guess.
The Ahsoka show really said, "If you just *believe hard enough* you too can become Force sensitive!"
I stopped watching the series, apart from being boring, mainly because I saw that was going to be the case, and it basically destroys all the Star Wars canon.
Another "Star Wars show" to the trash can of content I don't consider canon cause it mess with everything previously stated.
Every living thing has always been force sensitive
Somehow, the two best characters in this show are Ahsoka, who just stands around and smirks, and Baylan, who just stands around and says ambiguous things.
@@shok24199That's because they say almost nothing throughout the entire season. They avoid cheesy lines by simply having none, lol. Still, I agree. I do think they're the best characters in the series and decent characters overall.
I had an issue with this too but at least they address it in the show by mentioning many times that Sabine is the least force sensitive jedi ever, and ahsoka takes her on because they're both untraditional Jedis blabla and even Ezra when he finds out about ahsoka taking Sabine on as an apprentice is like oh... Why? Not saying it makes sense but at least they don't just totally ignore it and go yep she was always jedi
Did you forget that Sabine Wren was a trained Mandalorian versed in basic Mando combat, an explosives expert, an expert marksman, a super talented engineer that no one could copy, a talented repair technician that is able to repair anything like ship engines and weapons, is able to defeat Clone Wars veteran Mandalorian soldiers like Gar Saxon in 1v1 combat, attended in the Imperial Academy, was a fantastic Tie fighter pilot, designed a super weapon (without any help) that baffles other Imperial/Rebel/Mandalorian Engineers, was a famous Bounty Hunter throughout the Galaxy and had other Bounty Hunters owe her favors, is able to wield a lightsaber without the force and fight Jedi 1v1, comes from a famous Mandalorian family (which is basically Royalty) and was a well known Galactic Artist because of her famous art......all before the age of 14 years old! And now she's a Jedi and Force sensitive. Even surviving getting stabbed by a Lightsaber. 😂
Well yeah she's got a vagina so all that's a given...
So basically a MarySue 😂
Late bloomer.
Yeah, they turned a cool character into one that's good at everything and has no flaws. Now she's just a boring Mary-Sue character that doesn't need to rely on anyone, which was what Rebels was all about: a group of powerful, yet flawed people learning to rely on each other, but who needs character growth when you have plot armor?
@@queencerseilannister3519I don't think Mary Sue is nearly enough at this point.
Girl got more credentials then basically every surviving mandalorian combined and she's still a teenager
Between Sabine in Ahsoka and Reva in Obi Wan, it seems lightsaber wounds really aren't that dangerous. I think if I were using one I'd make a point of slicing sideways after an attack so it was more than just a puncture wound. Just be safe, you know.
BackTa Life tanks!!!! Yayyyyyy as if an employees kid came up with it lol
It makes sense if the lightsaber does not hit any organs. If it doesn't hit anything vital, you've just got a hole in you, and it's been instantly cauterized because of the lightsaber
If we were being realistic, based on what a lightsaber is shown to do to a blast door, the human body would violently erupt around the entire region of the impaling due to the intense heat reacting with the moisture of the body. It would be catastrophic.
If Darth Maul could survive being cut in half I guess all bets are off.
I'd make a nice smiley face in the victim's body 😊
I love how lightsabers cutting capacities can shift from killing someone with one stab, them not killing, them it has trouble to cut a metal door and suddenly it rips off a ships wing in the space like butter
"That Thrawn guy is supposed to be really smart. But writing smart characters is hard, so I just made him good at finding silver linings when his plans fail instead, and hopefully that will make it look like he's a strategic genius."
*Ezra:* Hey so how did you find me anyways must've been very much an inconvenience for you all
*Sabine:* gonna need you to hop all the way off my back about it
*Ezra:* oh okay lemme just get offa that thing.
underrated comment
Ezra: How the hell did you came here ?
Sabine: I just did
Ezra: Alright then
Start of series: Sabine can't move a coffee cup with force and Huyang droid states she not really gifted with midichlorians to chose her for Jedi training.
End of Series: Sabine uses lightsaber to deflect intense blaster fire and flings Ezra a few hundred feet through the air using the force.
So Strong! So Brave!
To be fair, 2/3 of that jump was Ezra doing a force jump with Sabine pushing him the rest of the way. Still seems like too much for someone who just unlocked their Force abilities.
@@nathangarratt9091 Dude...no. You can clearly see when he starts going up. It's a BIG leap up. That's not Ezra doing 2/3 of the work.
Can people even slowly start with no sensitivity to the force to being able to use it?
"No." - George Lucas
"Yes." - Disney
@@nathangarratt90912/3? Did you see how big that gap was?
4:22 Okay to be fair, she didn't actually *decide* to land next to Baylan. Baylan saw her ship as it was coming in and intercepted her. And the reason she didn't just land in the middle of the fight is because Huyang refused to do so because it was against mission protocol.
Thanks for clearing up the plot of Ahsoka for me. I literally had no idea where the story was supposed to be going. And now you have explained it was headed down the toilet…
What is there not to understand? They were going to get Ezra and Thrawn. And they dd. And that's pretty much it. They did the thing. It was obviously a bad idea, but nobody cares, because they had a brief happy moment.
@@MartijnVos My confusion lies in why they called this show Ahsoka. It was about everyone else BUT Ahsoka. Which to me leaves the show without focus or direction. Find Thrawn. Find Ezra. Train Sabine. Jump in a starfish and see where it goes. Its just nuts. If the show was gonna be 24 episodes, then yeah, maybe do all that stuff, but there was no way they were gonna pull all this together cohesively in 8 episodes. Its all over the place. At least thats how it was for me.
A "plop" is a VERY accurate description of Disney+ content.
like Anything George Lucas made after Return of the Jedi was great. (None of it was).
As soon as I saw them skip over Ezra’s feelings about his sacrifice being wasted and the non-lethal lightsaber to the gut, then lightsabers can take out a stormtrooper with a mild glancing blow, I knew the pitch meeting would be brutal.
It became such a joke.
They hack and slack, and all that does now is surface cuts.
that scene in the tower when those 2 troppers got force pulled left and right of her, she clearly cuts them in half - if this wasnt a kids show.
but then, sliced troopers not very useful as zombies!
same with the end fights vs the witch, 2 saber through the belly, she should have been cut like Darth Maul ...
morgan gets mildy sliced = dies instantly. Stormstroopers getting sliced = dies instantly.
Sabine getting impaled = is FINE
I binged all of Rebels before watching this show, and I actually really liked it. So when I came into this new show and it turned out to be a Rebels sequel fanfic, I didn't actually mind all that much.
I can't imagine being a fan of Ahsoka (the character) right now, though, especially one who hasn't seen Rebels. Probably a lot like being a Boba Fett fan, except at least she's only been around a for decade or so. Fett fans had half a century of buildup before getting _their_ hopes slowly run over by rainbow vespas.
"Actually it's gonna be super easy, barely an inconvenience" is slowly starting to become my favorite phrase after binging a lot of these pitch meetings
I have the shirt and I've had a couple people recognize the quote!
I use the quote often, to the dismay of my family.
Well ya gotta make sure you're doing the head tilt!@@shawndixon4536
I use it enough that it annoys my wife 😂
Nah that’s never gonna catch on.
This is like a show generated by stormtroopers shooting at plot points at the firing range, with the best plot points about 300 feet away, which no stormtrooper can hit.
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@@unefleurdelalune8767 more like 30 feet
Ryan really hits my expectation on this pitch meeting better than my expectation and the result I got from watching the actual show. During the show I was like "yeah this part will be on pitch meeting" and it did!
Only when I watch your videos do I wish I could super like something. I keep rewinding to watch parts over and over again.
The "Ahsoka jumps out of the ship and meets Baylan" part is so ridiculously silly to me.
I mean what happened there?
Did Ahsoka specifically jump out where she sensed Baylan to be? If so: why, if she had no intention of defeating him?
Did he sense her and seek her out? If so, why did Ahsoka jump out this far away from her friends who are in danger?
Was it just a coincidence? Aside from how ridiculous the odds of that happening are, again, why would she jump out of the ship this far away from her friends?
Even with it being left vague, I can't think of a single scenario where this makes a lick of sense.
It was because it was a horribly written story....
And she stole his ride. Not that she needed it. (she was just in a ship)
Typical Jedi move.
Maybe she landed there to steal Baylan's howler. If she would have landed near her friends, Baylan could have gotten there fast with his howler. So, she landed near Baylan, had Huyang distract him, so she could take his howler, preventing him from interfering.
I know Baylan said he wouldn't help Shin, but maybe he would only go after Ahsoka and not interfere with the rest.
@@hvandijken5905 And how would she have even known that he had a Howler?
Or that Baylan was there and alone? Sabine had to specifically open her mind and reach out to be sensed by Ahsoka and the Witches. Baylan definitely did not.
@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel You are asking good questions, I agree it's left way too vague, but I like coming up with explanations.
I was thinking, maybe after a dangerous battle, force users get a special connection and can sense eachother more easily, they are drawn to one another.
For example how Kenobi keeps running into Maul or how easily Anakin finds Ventress when Ahsoka is on trial.
If that's the case, then scratch my previous take. Then it's just that they're drawn to one another and from there on she just wings it and steals the howler because she feels she's wasting time having a hard time fighting Baylan while her friends need her.
edit: I'm now also thinking of how this could make sense with Vader and Luke sensing eachother's presence after their first fight. I always thought it was because of the family ties, but then why can't Vader sense Leia?
3:11 was kindof explained we saw Thrawn and Ezra get taken together by Purgils and we’re told many times in the show they cycle the same routes.
The entire thing is pure gold and long live producer guy and writers guy, who are of course two distinct people
you just combined 2 comments didn’t you, you scallywag
What an odd thing to say?
barely an inconvenience
I love how you speedrun the whole series until Ezra happens, because nothing happens until he shows up.
It's because Disney Star Wars' actual problem is not 'wokeness', or what not, it's the fact that it's powered almost purely by callbacks. Almost everything about Disney Star Wars is founded in sapping meaning from previous Star Wars installments. Much as the Disney Live Action remakes are built on sapping meaning from the animated classics. Everything about Ahsoka is about waving the payoff in everyone's face, and then bum rushing for that pay off through a series of big shiny action set pieces.
@Bustermachine Really this. It’s not just Disney, either, it’s all the major production companies with the “Let’s try to make this happen again, it clearly makes money” while pointing at something that worked 30, 20, even 5 years ago. To much risk aversion, too much nostalgia fishing, too many callbacks, too little freedom to fail. And to be clear, a lot of this (my perspective at least) comes from the producer levels focusing on bottom line and red/black ink overriding or negatively shaping the other levels where the creativity is happening. Not exclusively, but “Think of the shareholders” is what’s driving quality down.
@@jlighter1 I think this comes from the disaster that was "Treasure Planet", despite being a masterpiece of a movie, it was ahead of its time. Now Disney is like "Nah, lets keep it safe". Just look at Wish to see that statement in motion.
@@Bustermachine I figured its problem was corporate overhead making everything they make gray sludge.