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0:00 Intro
1:45 Rotational Goals
3:32 Void Eruption Single Target
5:52 Dark Ascension Single Target
7:18 Void Eruption AoE
9:41 Closing Thoughts
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We're lucky to have you. Not all specs have dedicated players creating content, take hero talents demonstrations for example. Thank you, Publik.
At 2 min you do what EVERY SINGLE DPS guide should do dude. Explain the basics! I tried to recently get into vengeance DH and every rotation video just assumed everyone knew the basics, even the videos for “beginners.” Thanks so much for your videos, they are truly top tier.
Appreciate the comment and I'm so glad it was helpful!
Typical TH-cam Warcraft content "If you are new to the game, just starting out as an alt or coming back after 10 years, this guide is perfect. To start off with, if you remember the season 2 set with patch 4, it had similar traits from the set from BC...and since this is probably the build you've used over the past 2 seasons, there are some changes on how the procs spread"....so they reference things you would have zero clue about. Those never get a like
As a new shadow priest I’ve found this extremely helpful. Thank you so much. I’ve subbed and I’m looking through all of your content. Keep the videos coming!
Glad it was helpful!
I am also new shadowpriest its kinda hard but thanks his videos i can improve little by little
Yeah, I’d be interested in a dungeon walk through for spriest like quazii does for tanks.
Mate, thank you very much for these. I have been playing SPriest for 2 weeks (Been a lock and boomy for 10 years and wanted a change) and you have been invaluable to my experience. Appreciate your work mate. :D
These latest videos are exactly what ive been looking for! Thanks and great work!
Glad you like them!
Ive been waiting for this one!
This was so helpful homie, picked up Spriest cause it’s been years since I’ve played it and tbh the simple explanations from all your vids just make the spec way easier to follow than it kinda appears on paper
Dude this was so insanely helpful! Thank you! Youre doing God's work brother.
Definitely looking forward to a what to do in advance thing, first time playing shadow priest and im finding myself walking towards the next pack hoping the tank trips or something so I have a minute to look at what ive got ready and how im going to use everything when the pull begins.
Sick breakdown. Thanks for taking the time.
Glad it was helpful!
Healer main since 2007, switched to BM hunter this xpac as a "starter DPS" and got decent with her, and now trying spriest for the last few days. This has been the best guide I've found so far! Just hit 70 and getting in the swing of things, noticing what I'm doing wrong and where I need to improve. Thank you so much for making such an informative guide!! This was PERFECT and I feel like I learned more about spriest in ~10 minutes than I have in 2-3 days! Subbing for more later =D
Amazing guide, thanks!
Finally back to playing Shadow again after a long break away, Your guides have been critical in my success in relearning the spec! Thank you for all you do in keeping shadow alive!
Glad I could help!
Really appreciate your videos. They helped me out so much. Thanks!!!!
Best intro
I love your Ui
Great guide thank you. Learned a lot. Still working through it but wanted to know how you get that segmented circle around your cursor. Is that a wa or addon?
That is a weak aura! There are a ton of them on wago: wago.io/search/imports/wow/df-weakaura?q=cursor
Thanks for video! About Spell Activation Overlay, do you use any addons or wago?
I use my weak aura sets which are in the description. Let me know if you have any questions
Love the content.
Care to share ur addons, especially the name plates and health bar UI.
Thanks!
Plater Nameplates: wago.io/mO6BO5dHG
ShadowedUnitFrames profile (mostly updated): pastebin.com/wcU6pAj0
LMK if youd like anything else or have questions
@@Publikwow Thanks!
Thank you for guide, appreciate it. One quick question tho, do we have to sacrifice/ignore critical spells such as mind blast or void torrent to sustain DP uptime ?
You shouldn’t need to when playing normally
Don't judge me I do a little dance at the into music
same, it's called Journey by Tokyo machine if you wanna listen more.
Nice video
Thanks!
@@Publikwow what is higher In priority the last 1 or 2 ticks of void torrent or getting in one more void bolt? I often find myself in the situation to either clip torrent or lose a bolt ( might be because I’m not using torrent at the right times)
You probably should be using torrent much earlier. You never want to cancel it early
Hey man, quick question.
at 5:18 you cast void torrent but plague expires during the cast. Would that be considered a mistake because we lost mastery mid cast, or is it okay because the void torrent had snapshotted its damage and is still considering the target as "triple dotted" ?
Also on a side note for videos like these (which are great, not complaining !) it would be a nice addition to have the details plugin showing the cast log so we can see what you're actually casting more easily. It's not always easy to figure out when you're doing a few instants in a row or spell queuing an instant between two casts, stuff like that :p
As long as it’s up for a few seconds that’s still okay to send torrent. It doesn’t snapshot but you kind of have to split the difference on the benefit to at least get the cast off. Also I am running the details integration, it’s right above my webcam frame :)
@@Publikwow Okay noted !Thanks for the reply.
And sorry about the details integration haha I don't know how I missed it, I'm used to the full lines version ! Sorry about that !
In an aoe aituation, would you recommend switching targets for DP or just spam it on prio? I feel likenhaving multiple DP dots rolling would he more damage overall, no? TIA
Good question. When using distorted reality spreading is a gain for overall damage. But if you are using minds eye that talent is for maximizing prio on one target.
Hey man, I'm using your Weakaura Pack and love it. Just wondering, how did you get your defensive CD's/Trinket to show at the sides? Are they part of the package?
Im currently working on a bit of a refactor of the aura packs and hoping to fully launch them for 11.0. The preview version is up for Shadow here if you want to try it:
- Main Pack: github.com/seanpeters86/weakauras/blob/main/grid/shadow-priest-11.txt
- Generics Set: github.com/seanpeters86/weakauras/blob/main/grid/generics.txt
@@Publikwow Thanks bro! Love your videos 😄
I'm curious about how holy nova and divine star fit into the rotation, are they just there as filler for movement or when there is nothing else to press or are they worth pressing over mind flay when everything else is on cd?
We do not press Holy Nova or Divine Star in the rotation.
We take Holy Nova to path into the 3% magic defensive node, and we use Divine Star only in pre-pull to build up Insanity.
Hey, Publik, thanks for the video, new subscriber here. I was wondering if we need to switch target to cast DP if the target already had DP ? Thanks for your answer, have a good day :)
If you are using Distorted Reality you should spread Devouring Plague and cast it on a new target each time you get enough Insanity for more overall damage. If you are using Mind's Eye you should funnel your Devouring Plagues onto a single priority enemy.
@@Publikwow thanks à lot !
I have a question about spell priority, not sure if this is covered in this video..
During Void Eruption with Deathspeaker built, how do you prioritize the following:
Void Bolt, Mind Blast (casted), Mind Blast (instant), Shadow Word Death (with and without season 3 tier pieces)?
Hard to answer in TH-cam comments but there prio list is here: www.icy-veins.com/wow/shadow-priest-pve-dps-rotation-cooldowns-abilities
Question: Devouring plague does it make any sense to keep it up to more targets? Or just one ? So when my insanity is almost full to cast it on another and just keep two popping? or is it better just to focus on one insanity and maintain other dots and spell on other mobs?
When you run Mind's Eye you want to funnel it onto the priority target. If you are running Distorted Reality you can spread it for more overall
thanks publik. are we SwDing off cooldown? in the aoe clip i saw deathspeaker up and it wasnt being cast or is that just the execute light up?
You basically only use SWD if you have a deathspeaker proc or you are in execute. And even in those cases you only slot it in above normal fillers except for things like movement or sniping a low health mob for death and madness
@@Publikwow oh that makes sense. thanks for clarifyin
I have not had a SP since like Cataclysim... so I think this gonna be where I need to be. Had to make a new account, and rolled my SP. She only 36 right now but this where I think im gonna need to be lol.
Nice! Welcome to the Void
Do you continue to save insanity to maintain uptime during the season 4 4 piece proc, or then spam DP to get more spirits out?
Only if its the end of the pull to prepare for the next one if its really deadly
Do you spam shadow word death on cooldown as high priority on procs? Sorry wasn't sure I'm new
Good question, if you have procs of Deathspeaker you just use it over normal casts of Mind Spike/Mind Flay, not a very high priority with the season 4 set bonus.
You've probably answered this somewhere, but do you clip regular mind flay or so you finish the cast every time?
Normal mind flay you clip ASAP yes, Mind Flay Insanity you aim to always full channel.
@@Publikwow thank you! Also, if I don't have any tier at all which build should I be using? S3 or S4?
I'm super new to Spriest and I am having trouble doing damage in packs that involve much more that 8 targets, like say 16 targets or even in boss phases like RLP Melidrussa whelps or in AA the big pull before the boss and Overgrown Ancient adds. What do I do in these high target count situations? It feels like I fall behind a lot in damage compared to other classes here because shadow crash doesn't get everything.
what I do is, I have a mob combat counter so i know how many mobs were in combat with. then if it shows 8 or under then i just shadowcrash and will get everything. If for example it says 14 mobs in combat with. I know that SC will hit 8, so I would have to VT 6 targets before shadow crashing.
On top of that you have to know which mobs are gonna die fast and not worth VT'ing. so if the mobs will be up for atleast 20s then id say its worth VTing, but if theyre just gonna die, youll just have to accept that other dpsers will pad off that pack.
So most of these are a case by case basis, here are a few notes:
- On fights like RLP Melidrussa you just save Shadow Crash and simply are content with the 8 that it hits, and ignoring the rest to tunnel into the boss. Manually DoTing each add that doesnt get hit by Shadow Crash isnt worth, especially during cooldowns.
- 16 target pulls are tricky, and rely on you being able to pull _with_ the tank using the aggro drop from Fade to cast Vampiric Touch's on as many mobs as you can while grouping, so that once they are grouped Shadow Crash can finish the remaining 8 mobs. In massive pulls that are grouped up quickly this becomes extremely challenging, and if you are rushed just manually DoT 4 of them, plus Shadow Crash to get 12 dots out. At that point you then full send cooldowns. As you run out of high priority spells to press (i.e. just left with things like raw Mind Flay/Mind Spike you can then DoT mobs you missed).
Shadow Priest doesnt need to have everything DoTed to do good damage, you just need _most_ of the big pull and particularly the priority target mobs.
Hope this was helpful
@Publikwow Yeah I think I understand a lot more now how the class works and these needs help with pulls that are gathered pretty fast and some bosses. I've been doing a lot more keys today to get a better feel of the class. Most of the time it really feels like just most things and the single target the prio and redot other things when necessary.
Hi, could you tell me how you pop power infusion on ally? Is there a macro you use?
Yes I use the macro in my guide: www.icy-veins.com/wow/shadow-priest-pve-dps-macros-addons
I know you've prolly been asked this before. But, I just discovered you. What frames addon are you using? I really like the look of them.
I am using Shadowed Unit Frames! Exported my profile here: wago.io/uZhyFRASY
@@Publikwow Thank you very much
Bro what is that form of the thing from the beyond that appears as an aura around you at this moment in the video 5:43
That is Neltharion's Call to Suffering trinket that drops from the Aberrus raid! It is a great trinket for Shadow this tier, with a great visual :)
When playing with mine flay, should you ever cancel your channel in or out of void form to mind blast, devo plague etc., or should you always let the mind flay cast finish?
Always clip flay if vb mb or swd are back. Dp only if you're going to drop it
what about mind flay: insanity?@@rwcannon
You always clip normal mind flay for something more important. Usually not worth to ever clip mind flay insanity but in really high pull AoE you could after a few ticks.
I downloaded you castbar, and mine doesn't change colour when i use "Mind Flay: Insanity". What can i do to get the exact same castbar as in this video @publik?
Here is that one, was kind of a WIP so didnt upload it to the normal one yet: wago.io/puQJli7zT
Is there any benefit to spreading devouring plague on a second target or just keeping it on one?
When you use distorted reality it is more overall damage to spread, yes. If you are using minds eye you funnel onto one target for increased priority target damage.
@@Publikwow Thanks for the response! Great guide videos!
What's better single target, mind flay void eruption build or dark ascension mind spike?
Depends on your exact gear setup, both builds are very competitive. For movement scenarios voidform is typically the default suggestion but if you can afford to turret with good gear dark ascension can end up being slightly better.
when do you cast shadow word death? on st and aoe scenarios
Only if you have a deathspeaker proc or the target is in execute range. And the priority is only above normal fillers
How much damage would you lose if you go for Distorted Reality? It would make upkeep way easier and I believe math-wise it's fairly close. Unless I'm missing something.
It makes upkeep easier in single target, but the spreading playstyle can be more complex in dungeon scenarios. This page has some info on that: www.icy-veins.com/wow/shadow-priest-pve-dps-mythic-plus-tips
TLDR: for single target with void eruption Distorted Reality is 2% worse, 8% increase on AoE if you spread devouring plague, and 16% loss in priority target damage in aoe.
Is there an Icy Veins guide for Season 3 for those of us that don't have our 4pc S4 yet, and are still working with our S3 4pc? I keep landing on S4 guide...
If you are looking for the rotation guide for season 3 just use the checkboxes on this page: www.icy-veins.com/wow/shadow-priest-pve-dps-rotation-cooldowns-abilities
You can just select/deselect the talents/etc that you are running and the page will dynamically update with all the info you need. Be sure to select "Season 3 Set Bonus" and turn off "Season 4 Set Bonus".
@@Publikwow You're awesome, thank you!!
What are those party frames called? Those look so good
Those are shadowed unit frames!
@@Publikwow thanks for the reply, you the man 🫡
How important is it to spread DP in AoE assuming youre running the talent that extends the duration to 12 seconds?
It’s pretty important, it’s about a 3-4% dps loss to take it but not spread vs. what you would be doing. Take that for what it is 🤷♂️
@@Publikwow think i won’t take it then- would there be other talent changes along with that?
Nope! No changes to the rest of it
Is it a thing to cancel mindflay insanity for void bolt?
Ideally no you’d like to full channel. But in mass AoE you could if it’s halfway through
I’m a bit late to the party, but if I have 100+ insanity in a AoE pack, should I spread d plague or keep maintaining uptime on my main target?
If you play with Minds Eye you just funnel onto the priority target, but if you play with Distorted Reality you can spread
@@Publikwow thanks 🙏🏻
I really cannot stop from hitting SW: D from last season. Lol
Sameeeeeeeee
You mentioned that you want to have at least 24 insanity before the boss pull, but doesn't insanity get reset when pulling a raid boss?
Great question, Insanity does not _fully_ get reset, it just gets reset down to 25. So you are free to generate up to that amount.
@@Publikwow Hmm.. that's interesting. During Aberrus last night, I had over 100 insanity, and it suddenly went down to like 18. I'm wondering if that's a bug, or if I'm just doing something wrong.
Well anyway, thanks for the clarification ;-)
What could happen is at 100 if you hit devouring plague as the first action it can queue that insanity cost down. But 25 is the base it should go down to
Why you not using your Shadow Word: Death even its flashing? And what about M+ Dark Assension rotation?
You only press shadow word: death when the target is below 20% or you have a deathspeaker proc in builds without inescapable torment. And this action is very low priority, only above normal fillers. Didn’t get a chance to show the DA AoE rotation on a video but the guide goes over that in depth www.icy-veins.com/wow/shadow-priest-pve-dps-rotation-cooldowns-abilities
im doing same rotation and at 490 ilvl and only able to do 130k dps single target with void build. not really sure what to do here. i saw you were doing 220k plus and thats a massive difference between my 130k. might be cause of my stats lol i have 36% crit, 32% haste and 7% mastery and 14% vers
Hm yeah that mastery is criminally low
@@Publikwow yea thats what i was thinking.
Howdy Publik, when you say full send DP I assume you mean use all the casts, yes?
Basically at that point it means if you have the Insanity to use on it, go ahead and use it regardless of how long is left on the DoT. Normally we wait to cast Devouring Plague until the DoT is about to expire OR we are about to cap on Insanity.
@@Publikwow Yeah thats what I thought you meant sir. Honestly I'm not watching my dots closely enough to know when it will expire, I'm just dotting and moving. Your advice is making me a decent shadow priest. Thank you so much for the answer.
How difficult is this spec to pick up?
The basics are easy and there is plenty in the spec to master! Would suggest starting here: www.icy-veins.com/wow/shadow-priest-pve-dps-easy-mode
Sad we lose some instant cast spells for movement, happy we dont have to use shadow word pain anymore 🎉
Just for movement!
What about shadow word: death?
You basically ignore it unless you have a deathspeaker proc (if talented) or you are in execute above your normal fillers. Nice for movement as well
Yeah, I'm abit surprised it wasn't mentioned at all. Not sure if should be casted on CD on low HP targets or its lower priority than Mind Blast.
It’s something you hardly press in this season so I just didn’t mention it. In hindsight definitely should have covered it more since it is the big change going to season 4 tier
idk what im doin wrong, i cant breech 200k DPS on the dummy with sims sitting on 264k, i literally got nothin to press most of the time
Part of that could be gear, keep in mind sims by default assume full buffs. Make sure are use the Target Dummy sim.
Man, I am in the same boat. Have you been able to figure out what you were doing wrong?
@@coudas80 just gear and old habits
I swear im doing this stuff, but only doing like 200k on big aoe pulls, I can't tell what I am doing wrong
Could partially be a gear or lack or tier set bonus issue
@@Publikwow How relevant is Dark Ascension in AOE?
Fuck what you talkin how’s that guy next to you pulling off all those apparitions so fast?!!?!
In AoE if you get lucky with procs of tormented spirits it can really pop off :)
Just dying to know a shadow crash macro without mousing over and just casts at the target
That is not possible
show us ur Plater nameplates 😢
Here is my Plater Profile! wago.io/mO6BO5dHG
SP is to OP atm
SP always was OP, Every season, lol
@@Talj_wowno no it's not lol
@@aaronfisher7513
Bro stfu 😂😂 don’t take copium. Check the ladder. Each comp has one sp that tops the dps by far
Help me
Press buttons. Profit
Por tu culpa todos los sp hacen el mismo daño que el tanke
jesus , this is so sleeper compared to legion shadow priest. How did they allow this to happen?
Too many spells 😭
Yeah but we are lucky to have a grandmaster like publik
@@ferhatdikmen1556 I mean I understand the spec just fine but I just don't like how many spells there are