I have an interesting question. I have an upcoming trip to Vegas where i'll be staying 2 nights at Wynn and 2 nights at Palazzo both on comp offers. This is only my first ever offer used at the V/P and my third at Wynncore. My budgeted bankroll won't be enough to support both players clubs, but it is enough for one. Should I focus almost all my action on one, and 'burn' the other or do my best to satisfy both while staying on budget? I like both properties equally so I have no strong preference.
This is an excellent question @stevenlowe9807 -- There is NO perfect answer, but things to consider are "what is your future looking like? How many trips are you planning for 2025?" My "simple" answer is that since this is your first offer/trip at V/P you have to concentrate there - the marketing algo is "hot for you now." Also, consider the fact that (overall, broad stroke) V/P is going to "kick-off" better marketing offers than Wynn for similar action. For sure, you do NOT want to burn a first offer, if you desire to potentially come back. Strategically, some will say the way to "win" (or shall we say 'Wynn') is to burn offers. It's an interesting conversation, since if you can get a trip or two out of "strong play," and then "barely" play at the next two (trips), you are putting very little bankroll at risk. But, this needs to be a deeper conversation, also, are you AP or really just a recreational player looking for the best experiences, comp rooms etc. etc. Most are recreational players and NOT AP. Once again, a great conversation. So, if you go about this strategy, and "play harder and stronger" at V/P, you absolutely should NOT burn Wynn. I mean, if you desire to ever get future offers. Also, offers at Wynn are "conditional comp," which means they "say" (I have NEVER heard of it happening) that you need to play to your "level" or they can charge you for the stay. Once again, I've never heard of this happening, instead the "biggest fear" is getting "Marketing Restricted," which means even if you PLAY HARD in the future, you might not get offers. So, make sure you give Wynn some action. How much? Hard to say, but an easy metric would be (at least) 25% of the tier you did last trip. So, if you earned 2k Wynn Rewards Tier Points last trip, I would say you should at least play 500 tier points. Important: Algorithms change, policies change. The advice I give is based on (mostly) my personal experience and some friends. Very little with Casino Loyalty is a "guarantee," further there can be a lot of variation for larger players, slot dominant players, how many times you have played and the level you have been comp'ed. For Wynn, keep it safe, just do the play on ONE casino day. The easiest way to do that is on day two (2), from 7am to like 11PM. Then you don't have to worry about any "casino day" wonkiness.
Oh, that's a "fun story." From Caesars Rewards Seven Stars Companion. They made a very kind expection for me. Not exactly sure why, but I "guess" I got lucky! ~michael
This is super interesting, since everyone I know (including myself) get 3 comp night marketing offers (from Wynn and Encore Las Vegas) -- but (I believe) my Boston (Encore Boston Harbor) offers are indeed 2 nights. ~michael
Setting aside table game earning (tier points) is "horrible" at most properties, I earn around 300/tier an hour at baccarat for approximately $200/avg. ~michael
@@parman6262 I would give the counter-point that Wynn is very protective of their product for COMP. I just went to a (big) conference at Resorts World, I would argue that Convention Business is huge for them. Wynn skews towards "higher end" consistent play (and tier earning). One thing you'll love about Resorts World is that the drink/cocktail service in high limit is stellar. One of the best, if not the BEST.
@@TravelZorkmy table game ratings and tier earnings always seem above average. Especially craps. Maybe because I’m so charming and lovable? Or I tip and kiss butt really well? I’m hoping it’s the former 😂😂😂
I have an interesting question. I have an upcoming trip to Vegas where i'll be staying 2 nights at Wynn and 2 nights at Palazzo both on comp offers. This is only my first ever offer used at the V/P and my third at Wynncore. My budgeted bankroll won't be enough to support both players clubs, but it is enough for one. Should I focus almost all my action on one, and 'burn' the other or do my best to satisfy both while staying on budget? I like both properties equally so I have no strong preference.
This is an excellent question @stevenlowe9807 -- There is NO perfect answer, but things to consider are "what is your future looking like? How many trips are you planning for 2025?" My "simple" answer is that since this is your first offer/trip at V/P you have to concentrate there - the marketing algo is "hot for you now." Also, consider the fact that (overall, broad stroke) V/P is going to "kick-off" better marketing offers than Wynn for similar action. For sure, you do NOT want to burn a first offer, if you desire to potentially come back.
Strategically, some will say the way to "win" (or shall we say 'Wynn') is to burn offers. It's an interesting conversation, since if you can get a trip or two out of "strong play," and then "barely" play at the next two (trips), you are putting very little bankroll at risk. But, this needs to be a deeper conversation, also, are you AP or really just a recreational player looking for the best experiences, comp rooms etc. etc. Most are recreational players and NOT AP. Once again, a great conversation.
So, if you go about this strategy, and "play harder and stronger" at V/P, you absolutely should NOT burn Wynn. I mean, if you desire to ever get future offers. Also, offers at Wynn are "conditional comp," which means they "say" (I have NEVER heard of it happening) that you need to play to your "level" or they can charge you for the stay. Once again, I've never heard of this happening, instead the "biggest fear" is getting "Marketing Restricted," which means even if you PLAY HARD in the future, you might not get offers. So, make sure you give Wynn some action. How much? Hard to say, but an easy metric would be (at least) 25% of the tier you did last trip. So, if you earned 2k Wynn Rewards Tier Points last trip, I would say you should at least play 500 tier points.
Important: Algorithms change, policies change. The advice I give is based on (mostly) my personal experience and some friends. Very little with Casino Loyalty is a "guarantee," further there can be a lot of variation for larger players, slot dominant players, how many times you have played and the level you have been comp'ed. For Wynn, keep it safe, just do the play on ONE casino day. The easiest way to do that is on day two (2), from 7am to like 11PM. Then you don't have to worry about any "casino day" wonkiness.
HEY CONGRATS!!!!
Thank you! ~michael
What did you match to black from?
Oh, that's a "fun story." From Caesars Rewards Seven Stars Companion. They made a very kind expection for me. Not exactly sure why, but I "guess" I got lucky! ~michael
I've never seen a 3 night offer at Wynn, only 2 nights.
This is super interesting, since everyone I know (including myself) get 3 comp night marketing offers (from Wynn and Encore Las Vegas) -- but (I believe) my Boston (Encore Boston Harbor) offers are indeed 2 nights. ~michael
I get 3 night comp from wynn multiple times a yr, i go 3-4 times a yr, ive even gotten a 4 nighter once back after covid…..
Wynn table game ratings is awful.
Setting aside table game earning (tier points) is "horrible" at most properties, I earn around 300/tier an hour at baccarat for approximately $200/avg. ~michael
It seems the Wynn is more into conventions than the 80,000 tier points player. We are trying Resorts World next trip.
@@parman6262 I would give the counter-point that Wynn is very protective of their product for COMP. I just went to a (big) conference at Resorts World, I would argue that Convention Business is huge for them. Wynn skews towards "higher end" consistent play (and tier earning). One thing you'll love about Resorts World is that the drink/cocktail service in high limit is stellar. One of the best, if not the BEST.
@@TravelZorkmy table game ratings and tier earnings always seem above average. Especially craps. Maybe because I’m so charming and lovable? Or I tip and kiss butt really well? I’m hoping it’s the former 😂😂😂
@@GamblerTrey well, have you perfected your bougie-southern-charm factor yet? 🥰 You'll need that for Wynn Las Vegas. ~michael