Interesting. I have a katana and a wakizashi that were brought back from WW II and were centuries old even before that war. The katana had been remounted to a wood-lined military sheath, tsuba and grip. The wakizashi was just the plain blade as was another signed katana I got at a gun show in the 1970's. I made a pair of wooden scabbards (shirasaya) that hid the blades very well and were at least as strong and sturdy as their originals. The katana I gave to an army comrade who probably never appreciated what a gem he had. The wakizashi I kept for myself and will unpeg, clean, sharpen and remount it sometime on my Y/T channel. Your $700 katana looks very good in the video and should work well for you. If you do any mat cutting with it, please make some video. I'd like to see how it does.
Your very fortunate to have beautiful pieces of ancient Japanese history in you possession. I have never owned or even held a real katana. If I owned one of the two I would most definitely appreciate it
HIM: Reads the instructions first. Second, plays with the new stand. Third, finally grabs the sword. ME: Grabs the sword first. Second: nah, that's about it, goes back to playing with the sword.
but the instructions clearly stated to never, NEVER pull the sword out by simply pulling scabbard and handle apart, cause it could damage the koiguchi and result in injury. 8 mins later, he did just that haha
The hamon is fine. It’s a pretty standard notare style with a bit of variation and you can see some of the folding pattern along the edge of the hamon. Gets a little close to the edge at points but not bad. However the color is all off, which I expect is because it’s been acid enhanced. And the fittings are all mass-produced. $700 is a bit expensive for what you got, but the blade itself is decent so I’d throw out the rest, send the blade off to a customizer like Fred Lohman, and have it professionally polished and remounted with new furniture.
dont listen to this tool. the full ray saya adds up to 250$ on the price of the sword. so you really at most paid 550 for the sword. and for that price is make it a much better deal. depending on the lamination style if any it could be a much better katana. prob Honsami lamination . Normaly they would use a 1045 folded on the sides and 1095 or if lucky t10 steels core. The habaki sux buy a new one.
looks like Honsanmi most deff. you can see the fold lamination line. unless i am going blind. i bought 7 katanas of Aliexpress ranging from 160 - 760$ that one with the ray says is much nicer then the ones i got, in that aspect.
Oh yeah that ill fittingis shitty stuff is unexceptable. call them and get some money back for that one. prob a bit late now. at this price point you should get a well put together Sword.
When using a katana as a decoration, the handle must be in the left side. This is because in the past, samurais would have the katana's handle pointing at the right so they could draw the katana easier. Now, in this era, you don't actually need to use a katana for it's intended purpose so you have to put the handle pointing to the left side, meaning that you trust the person there and you are not thinking it is suspicious. (sorry for my english, tried to make my best to explain it)
@@tanaka6666666 too bad, back then you were forced to wear your katana on the left side of your waist so your saya wouldn't clash with the other people's when walking, and wearing it on the left basically forced you to draw your katana with your right hand and so on. Samurais were taught to be right handed swordsmen because that is the correct way.
@@aquyvietnam7166 Most are made in china, for a katana made in Japan it would cost probably more then 10 times the price he bought it for. However, with katanas from Japan generally you should get an official certificate and also it would be of very high quality.
A katana is a katana no matter who makes it or where it was made. What's important is how well it's made. This is a very nice swords in every way. . . Thanks for sharing
Lol, ill make you something that looks like a katana, but cut's like a wet turd xD. IMHO it's about the steel, and geometry, both require skill to get right.
You sound like a 3 year old, your entire explanation is redundant and toddler... Yes, a katana is a katana, that's why it is called a KATANA. Also, just like EVERYTHING else in the world, what matters is QUALITY..............! 🤦♂️
Well no…katana is made by certified swordsmith from tamahagane. Its a law in japan and must have government certificate. Otherwise its just weapon looking like katana. Its not just type of sword like other swords…
Yeah, I think $700 is a little LOT over priced for what I see. I also have the type 98 gunto officers sword like yours and I honestly think it a far nicer sword.
@@mikevlassis4232 just because it's made in China does not mean it's inferior. There master swordsmiths there as well in Korea. But this poor Chap purchased a sword from probably a intermediate Smith. Japanese Nahinto swords can be garbage too seen and collected for over 30 years
I read both Japanese and Chinese and here’s what I find interesting about the paper in the beginning of video - the whole paper is written in Japanese except from the part which is sign by the blacksmith. The signature of the blacksmith seems to be a Chinese person. But the whole thing is written in Japanese. This is what I find interesting!
Yeah, then it seems many people are right about this company. These blades are actually made in China, not Japan. The Company is "Zhejiang Zhengs Sword Co., Ltd", they constantly lie on websites among other places that their blades (the blade itself, not everything else) is made in Japan, they are not, which has been pointed out my some. So yeah, this definitely confirmed my suspicions, thanks for the insight!
I’m Japanese. According to this certificate of authenticity, it’s really weird. This is must be made in China, not worth $700… This is a bad quality copy.
@@alvarocampos6727 Tozando in Japandl, unless you r lucky to locate a good forger - but price-wise will be super expensive with perhaps a 6 month waiting time..... best bet is Tozando, and you ll get the quality according to your budget
KAWASHIMA STEEL IS MADE IN VIETNAM, Made of 1095 AISI steel with a general hardening of 60RHC, spigot of 35RHC and a differential hardening on its sides of 55RHC and 45RHC. It is a commercial katana type sword that has the characteristic of being functional. It has original stingray skin and bronze and copper accessories.
The saya should not be that tight. Imagine in a battle trying to get it out! Also, the ray skin should really completely wrap around the tsuka. It gives it strength as well as beauty. The hamon line is ok, but like others say, it doesn’t look real. The nakago should fit snug, you should not have to persuade it in like you did. It’s going to be super hard to try and take this apart again! Having no signature on the blade rings alarm bells to me. Looks the part nonetheless, would I pay that much for a blade off that site? Probably not. I’m no expert by any means, I merely did a lot of research after purchasing a cheap Chinese knock off as well, I didn’t pay that much though! Took mine apart and redid all of it right down to the blade. Completely rebuilt it, and now I’m proud of it. Took me almost 3 months, but it was worth it. If I were you, I’d try to make things fit a bit better and smoother, it will make it a much better blade in my opinion. Thank you for sharing with us though!
It would ring alarm bells if there WAS a signature on the blade. That would make the sword contraband (belonging to the family of the one whos signature is on the blade).
I like it, but I'm kind of skeptical about the hamon being polished into the blade instead of tempered into it. Being tempered with clay is what makes them so durable, this doesn't look like that happened in my opinion. But with YT's bandwith the video may not show us what you see.
@@TSD972 it’s not too difficult for a forge to produce a uniform hamon. And acid etching can be used to cover up slight deviations. See pretty much all of Hanwei’s commercial offerings compared to the same products with custom polishes.
@@creeper13ization no, it’s not. It’s been enhanced with acid but that’s not what a cosmetic hamon looks like. That’s a genuine hamon with etching over the top, very similar to what CAS Hanwei does
@@creeper13ization I don’t know what to tell you bud, go look at pictures compiled on places like sword forum international and sword buyers guide. Or any one of the literal thousands of examples of authentic hamons versus fake ones. Also, like I said, you can acid etch over a real hamon and that’s what I expect this is.
I would say for 700 I am not overly impressed but it doesn't look terrible. I would have preferred a little easier of a fitment into the saya. I know Habon forge makes some really good katanas and other Japanese swords. They also make some amazingly beautiful Chinese jian swords.
I kind of disagree with you there bro. It does look pretty bad, but starts to look terrible when as you look at it you remember its sticker price of $700. Has many Chinese-signature moves that signify this is coming from the BAD side of HAMMERTOWN, and not a blade from any reputable dealer. Musashi, Munetoshi, Hanwei would have all done better for $500.
Looks like fine piece of industrial product with wonderful hand-made details. Of course,that not original old sword, but nice for personal collection martial arts weapons.
I have been tempted to give Aliexpress a try, but this killed that idea. Gap in the habaki, ill-fitting tsuka, mekugi and saya. Tsuba and fuchi looks like they might rattle. The ito is not alternating. Too much DIY needed for a $700 sword.
this is the best one I bought on Aliexpress compared to others I bought there earlier. I think it's the best katana you can find there. in any case, I haven't seen any better
To see if the sword is what it should be make a video of slashing some bamboo reeds then you'd know if it is worthv of your 700$. If its for display purposes only, nevermind.
Problem with traditional katanas are if you're not a good swordsman and your blade alignment is not good hitting a hard target you will bend the sword and it will remain bent until you bend it back. I prefer spring steel.
I like the saya. It's lacqured samegawa. It's a decent sword and the hamon and the blade is real with a 60 HRC so it's probably a 1090 or T10 steel, except its not made in Japan. The Japanese are not allowed to sell their blades(its their government mandate) online, that's why most of these blades are made in China or other parts of the world. Cut the paper starting from near the Habaki going forward, let the blade cut not forcing it and you'll see how sharp it is next time.
Yep you got Gypped my dude right away when I saw the hamon line I knew the pattern is too perfect a real hamon line goes in all sorts of directions this looks like a wire brush stenciled hamon depending on the steel I think 1060 and up you can make your own hamon line all you need is a forge and some fireplace cement or plaster of Paris works like a champ too..
They can look that even. A lot of the live blades coming out of China have a similar look. What I didn't see were the laminated layers just like the Chinese ones because they aren't folded because the carbon content is already high enough for the properties of steel. Folded blades usually start out in the $3000 dollar range.
Is a litle bit much for a steel katana if it was made of titanium or a special steel aloy or other rare metals .I dont like steel too much because it oxideies a stanless one could be beter if you add manganise or vanidium you make it tough and resistance to oxidation
An Ikea sword that looks like scratched on purpose? Bro, if you have to assemble your sword with a steel that looks like shit... watch a few videos how it's done in Japan and never buy a sword that isn't completely construct by a swords smith
I think it has nothing to do with jealous,... I mean if I would by a swisser Army knife or a knife from Solingen and it cuts through a paper without ripping at the end well than that's not a original Japan katana. I paid for my katana 2700€ when I was in Nagasaki. Just saying
Solo viendo como has puesto la tsuka...se ve que tú de katanas entiendes poco. Madre mía, que brutalidad 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ Además, el papel puede desafilar el Ha.
All your money went into that saya and the box lol Honestly it looks like a decent piece. Maybe a bit pricey but much of that was for the rayskin saya, those are tough to do in general even if they stamp them out like cookies and that polish costs some time/money too. So all in all I'd say a good get. And shit, it a sword, a real functional sword!!!
No it's not painted. It's wrapped, lacquered black, sanded down, then re lacquered with clear finish. Buffalo horn then added to the mouth and end. It would take more time to paint the pattern than to actually do it correctly. That's not paint dude ...
So what is the normal price for a high quality fighting sword? Ive heard that some people spend thousands of dollars for katanas. What would a samurais sword cost today besides the historical value
Although China is know for reproductions of real things and can be a good thing or really bad, I would say this is not too bad. I would personally rather save the money to get an authentic katana handmade from Kyoto, Japan. What you have is a real expensive decoration from china.
the tamahagane steel in the original katanas from japan are not so good, so i don't think so, that a truely japanese katana would be my first choice ...
There are hand forges in China well, and they are good quality. Not the superior quality you get from a hand-forged Japanese blade of course, bit still good. The price will also reflect this as there would be about a €2,000 price tag difference, all depending on the forger and how famous he is in Japan.
Looks like it's a pretty blade, is it from japan or somewhere else? How about the tempered/hamon lines?is it real as well?or sand blasted?..thanks anyway for this video
I hate to be that guy again, but you kind of got ripped off. The poor fit of both the Tsuka and saya tells allot, and both present saftey issues. The Ito looks haphazardly done with cheap material, the habaki doesnt fit the blade, the Nakago is really rough which is also worrisome tell about the quality of the blade tempering. Absolutely no care was taken into the manufactering of this sword-like-object, even as a display piece it is poor and grossly overpriced. The only thing I can't be sure of is the authenticity of the hamon, as I would need to see it how it changes in the light up close, but considering how haphazardly every other part of this sword-like-object was put together and the overdone polish, I'd question its authenticity. I know my words probably don't mean much to you, but I really wish you promoting these shady sellers and unaccountable forges. Not only are you supporting bad buisness, your endangering your viewers who do not know how to identify a poorly made sword, and could seriously injure themselves or anyone around if the blade fails. Anyone who watches this guys videos, if you are new to katana and want to buy your first sword, do not purchase from aliexpress. Hanwei, Huawei, Dynasty Forge, Iron TIger Forge, Musha, Ronin Katana, Hanabira, Yomikuni, hell I dont like them but even Jkoo/Sinosword. These are all reputable forges with quality blades that are all highly praised and peer reviewed with in the Sword community. Most of them have their own websites but can also be found on renown sword dealers like Kult of Athena.
Yea the mekugi was unnecessary or maybe it was there to avoid slipping of poor handle wrap,bad fitting are the main problems and hamon line does have a different color but it had some kind of a weird rythm which may could be made by machines and not hand but the worst thing is the price jesus christ 700 bucks? Damn we sound so geek😂
Apparently i cant open the website for Kult of Athena. Thx for mentioning this. I thought Ronin katana is good since alot of ppl said it is. Just wondering what abt Paul Chen, Swords of the Northshire and True Katana? Are they good quality?
@@uniqnjun1078 First off, Ronin is a very good supplier, if you see something you like, you wont be dissapointed. The Only complaint Ive heard from their Dojo Pro models is the kurigata tends to be really cheap, but overall is not that important. I'd Avoid Swords of Northshire. They have a very mixed reputation among community, most higher level practictioners disavow them, however they're abit biased too. The only reason to go through SN is if you want color options, If you do decide to commission from them, I recommend keeping your blade specs as simple as possible, to keep error margins low. I would also recommend Jkoo/Sino sword, they offer a similar product quality to SN, but a little bit cheaper.
Also, Personally I'm not a fan of Hanwei, but allot people swear by them, both collectors and practioners who actually train in a dojo and compete in tournaments. Allot of people actually buy them just for the blades alone and spend several hundred dollars having them refitted professionally by craftsman. If you want to try a hanwei blade, I recomend the Practical Plus Katana XL It has a very unique blade geometry and is coveted by many.
I’m skeptical of the claim of it being “traditionally made.” A real Katana requires 7 different professional craftsmen/artisans to manufacture 1 unit, and that is the tradition to this very day. 1. The Blade Manufacturer (Tosho) 2. Wood Worker (handle, sheath, etc. (Saya Shi) 3. The Fittings (Tosogu Shi) 4. The Habaki (Habaki Shi) 5. The Wrapping (Tsukamaki Shi) 6. The Blade Polisher (Togi Shi) 7. The Lacquerer (Nuri Shi) With China’s booming mass production economy, I doubt they’re taking that much time for each unit they’re sending out.
Publius2k4 I assume what they mean by that is that the sword was forged rather than ground out of a piece of steel. I don't think they would have gone as far as to use tamahagane and bothered folding the billet and forge welding it. It would be much simpler for them to use bar stock of 10** series steel and forge it into shape. It's not like anyone could tell the difference anyway, and a hamon is easy enough to get with differential hardening.
I think this is chinese imitation unfortunately. I live in tokyo but i won't find such a cheap cost katana of real. If it's real,It must be at least 5000 USdollars…
What? U wanna come rob me? Would you really do it?, for two pieces of shit watches from Turkey and Bosnia, if you are a burglar by profession, then I suggest you change your line of business cause you don’t have a fucn clue what is worth stealing
What? U wanna come rob me? Would you really do it?, for two pieces of shit watches from Turkey and Bosnia, if you are a burglar by profession, then I suggest you change your line of business cause you don’t have a fucn clue what is worth stealing
Does anyone know where you can buy katanas made in Japan for about 5k? I know that the mastercrafted katanas do not go for that cheap, but is there a middle thing between USD 500 of China katanas and the 30k+ Japanese made ones?
Sadly, that piece is very overpriced for the quality you got. The transitions are bulky, the Polish on the blade is not great, I could be wrong that appears to be zinc on the guard; which I have had experiences with those breaking. You would be much better spending that kind of money from Brands such as Huawei, Hanwei, or Dragon King. I hope you enjoy your purchase, but if you were to make another I'd recommend looking elsewhere.
@Bro Brah thaisuki has unique designs but have issues they should not for the price category. If you pay that much, i would recommend motohara or citadel.
@Bro Brah loose ito (wrap), sloppy transitions, i would recommend getting a quote from motohara first. Most customers love them, if they are too expensive citadel is a great alternative. For other issues with thaisuki you should check Matthew Jensen's review of them.
Just because it authenticly comes from Japan won't make it more durable or stronger than a modern chinese made one. I can assure you of that. Modern steel is way better than any steel on an old real katana from Japan.
most of the katanas in the market are manufactured in china, even th good ones; if you want to buy a nihonto from japan from a master swordsmith it'll cost you more than 12 to 20k euros.
I have to give them credit for taking such a risk with 700.00. I would say you lucked out here. The fittings are very nice especially the tsuba. The tsuka-ito knots look pretty uniformed. The hamon thanks to the close up looks legitimate to me. There's different ways a hamon is achieved fake ones being wire-brushed with a template or acid etched. At first from a distance it looked wire-brushed and polished but the close up looking at the lines above to me it looks like it was truly clay tempered. Plus it's nice that it comes with the box which is just your standard silk and foam but still nice to have as well as the silk sword bag even the stand was a nice touch with a flawless black lacquer finish also a nice quality touch using velvet on the bottom of the stand pieces. Expensive but I would say you got a good sword.
I came in terribly hard and I am sorry. I am sure you can enjoy your katana as is! :) I suggest you check this out: www.reddit.com/r/KatanaSwords/comments/jcoz9o/which_company_should_you_buyor_not_buy_from/? I got a SBG T10 custom katana and am happy. I also got an "expensive" Lyuesword and was disappointed. Cheers!
@@VeImir as far as i know the products of Aliexpress are all from china, maybe he came from china but whoever sold from there ordered from japan, or, left the kanji writing to become more traditional with a japanese sword.
I have a swiss watch in the mail right now coming straight from china my guy. Also, you've got some nerve handling a cheap replica with satin gloves on.
Well i am amazed with the title of the video " real katana from china".
😂😂😂
"A real katana from China?"
U know there are nothing real in china 😂
Good one 🤣.
Atleast it's better than anything Indian made
@@touchmesama2590 yes indians doesn't waste time copying others. We design our own.
Interesting. I have a katana and a wakizashi that were brought back from WW II and were centuries old even before that war. The katana had been remounted to a wood-lined military sheath, tsuba and grip. The wakizashi was just the plain blade as was another signed katana I got at a gun show in the 1970's. I made a pair of wooden scabbards (shirasaya) that hid the blades very well and were at least as strong and sturdy as their originals. The katana I gave to an army comrade who probably never appreciated what a gem he had. The wakizashi I kept for myself and will unpeg, clean, sharpen and remount it sometime on my Y/T channel. Your $700 katana looks very good in the video and should work well for you. If you do any mat cutting with it, please make some video. I'd like to see how it does.
thanks for the comment.
yeah, I'm planning to make a decent test of this katana to find out if it's as bad as many have posted here or not
Can I buy one I'm 5 foot yall
@@stanleyjames9485 no
Your very fortunate to have beautiful pieces of ancient Japanese history in you possession. I have never owned or even held a real katana. If I owned one of the two I would most definitely appreciate it
Funny how u used "brought back" instead of looted, pillaged, stolen, etc.
HIM: Reads the instructions first. Second, plays with the new stand. Third, finally grabs the sword.
ME: Grabs the sword first. Second: nah, that's about it, goes back to playing with the sword.
but the instructions clearly stated to never, NEVER pull the sword out by simply pulling scabbard and handle apart, cause it could damage the koiguchi and result in injury. 8 mins later, he did just that haha
The hamon is fine. It’s a pretty standard notare style with a bit of variation and you can see some of the folding pattern along the edge of the hamon. Gets a little close to the edge at points but not bad. However the color is all off, which I expect is because it’s been acid enhanced. And the fittings are all mass-produced. $700 is a bit expensive for what you got, but the blade itself is decent so I’d throw out the rest, send the blade off to a customizer like Fred Lohman, and have it professionally polished and remounted with new furniture.
dont listen to this tool. the full ray saya adds up to 250$ on the price of the sword. so you really at most paid 550 for the sword. and for that price is make it a much better deal. depending on the lamination style if any it could be a much better katana. prob Honsami lamination . Normaly they would use a 1045 folded on the sides and 1095 or if lucky t10 steels core. The habaki sux buy a new one.
looks like Honsanmi most deff. you can see the fold lamination line. unless i am going blind. i bought 7 katanas of Aliexpress ranging from 160 - 760$ that one with the ray says is much nicer then the ones i got, in that aspect.
Oh yeah that ill fittingis shitty stuff is unexceptable. call them and get some money back for that one. prob a bit late now. at this price point you should get a well put together Sword.
your a gay
The blade isn't worth it cut your losses
It's BEAUTIFUL! The Hamon is perfect!
When using a katana as a decoration, the handle must be in the left side. This is because in the past, samurais would have the katana's handle pointing at the right so they could draw the katana easier. Now, in this era, you don't actually need to use a katana for it's intended purpose so you have to put the handle pointing to the left side, meaning that you trust the person there and you are not thinking it is suspicious. (sorry for my english, tried to make my best to explain it)
But what happens if your are lefty?
@@tanaka6666666 too bad, back then you were forced to wear your katana on the left side of your waist so your saya wouldn't clash with the other people's when walking, and wearing it on the left basically forced you to draw your katana with your right hand and so on. Samurais were taught to be right handed swordsmen because that is the correct way.
Another reason is for the signs in the tang to be seen. Especially if a katana is viewed without the handle.
your a gaya
or or ORRRR he can jus place it however he wants cuz it’s his katana also… nobody is using a katana for war so it doesn’t rlly matter
So a 200 dollar katana with 500 dollar display box and sword stand and skin ray Scabbarb Right?
Made in china??
@@aquyvietnam7166 Most are made in china, for a katana made in Japan it would cost probably more then 10 times the price he bought it for. However, with katanas from Japan generally you should get an official certificate and also it would be of very high quality.
A katana is a katana no matter who makes it or where it was made. What's important is how well it's made. This is a very nice swords in every way. . . Thanks for sharing
Lol, ill make you something that looks like a katana, but cut's like a wet turd xD. IMHO it's about the steel, and geometry, both require skill to get right.
You sound like a 3 year old, your entire explanation is redundant and toddler...
Yes, a katana is a katana, that's why it is called a KATANA. Also, just like EVERYTHING else in the world, what matters is QUALITY..............! 🤦♂️
Then blade is sharp but unsheathing it is difficult and if a person pulls too hard one can risk slicing off fingers in the process
Well no…katana is made by certified swordsmith from tamahagane. Its a law in japan and must have government certificate. Otherwise its just weapon looking like katana. Its not just type of sword like other swords…
I'm curious how the balance is on the sword. Would it be possible to do any durability testing / hardness testing to compare against the claims?
This is perfect for chopin down my weed plants at the end of the summer
Qwest lon E very thing. LOL it would make short work of the long weeds and exercise your sword arm at the same time ! 😁
😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Qwest ion: hahahaha! Noice!
That's what Hana Katana's are for
Destroy you brain with weed good choice
Relaxing end vibes!!!
Love it
Lol thinking some thing
Yeah, I think $700 is a little LOT over priced for what I see. I also have the type 98 gunto officers sword like yours and I honestly think it a far nicer sword.
How can you properly price these anyway? I mean who is even using swords except just for display and roleplaying?
Agree.
I have the m98 and I totally agree I was VERY surprised in the quality for a $200 gunto!
$700 for a Chinese sword is a rip off I got my real Japanese nco for $700 online and it cuts like crazy still
@@mikevlassis4232 just because it's made in China does not mean it's inferior. There master swordsmiths there as well in Korea. But this poor Chap purchased a sword from probably a intermediate Smith. Japanese Nahinto swords can be garbage too seen and collected for over 30 years
I read both Japanese and Chinese and here’s what I find interesting about the paper in the beginning of video - the whole paper is written in Japanese except from the part which is sign by the blacksmith. The signature of the blacksmith seems to be a Chinese person. But the whole thing is written in Japanese. This is what I find interesting!
Yeah, then it seems many people are right about this company. These blades are actually made in China, not Japan. The Company is "Zhejiang Zhengs Sword Co., Ltd", they constantly lie on websites among other places that their blades (the blade itself, not everything else) is made in Japan, they are not, which has been pointed out my some. So yeah, this definitely confirmed my suspicions, thanks for the insight!
Since the title said ''katana from china'' I knew already what was coming to... No words needed
I’m Japanese. According to this certificate of authenticity, it’s really weird.
This is must be made in China, not worth $700…
This is a bad quality copy.
Where can i buy a real japanese katana?
@@alvarocampos6727 tozando 😉
@@alvarocampos6727 Tozando in Japandl, unless you r lucky to locate a good forger - but price-wise will be super expensive with perhaps a 6 month waiting time..... best bet is Tozando, and you ll get the quality according to your budget
@@cyzam
京都の東山堂は居合刀は扱っているけれど、真剣は扱っていないよ
それでも$700で日本製ハンドメイドの居合刀が手に入るから、この動画の刀よりは余程満足度は高いはず
せっかく海外に日本刀好きな人が居てくれるのに中国人って本当酷い事するな
KAWASHIMA STEEL IS MADE IN VIETNAM, Made of 1095 AISI steel with a general hardening of 60RHC, spigot of 35RHC and a differential hardening on its sides of 55RHC and 45RHC. It is a commercial katana type sword that has the characteristic of being functional. It has original stingray skin and bronze and copper accessories.
The saya should not be that tight. Imagine in a battle trying to get it out! Also, the ray skin should really completely wrap around the tsuka. It gives it strength as well as beauty. The hamon line is ok, but like others say, it doesn’t look real. The nakago should fit snug, you should not have to persuade it in like you did. It’s going to be super hard to try and take this apart again! Having no signature on the blade rings alarm bells to me.
Looks the part nonetheless, would I pay that much for a blade off that site? Probably not. I’m no expert by any means, I merely did a lot of research after purchasing a cheap Chinese knock off as well, I didn’t pay that much though! Took mine apart and redid all of it right down to the blade. Completely rebuilt it, and now I’m proud of it. Took me almost 3 months, but it was worth it.
If I were you, I’d try to make things fit a bit better and smoother, it will make it a much better blade in my opinion.
Thank you for sharing with us though!
Good points! That saya is REALLY tight, the habaki barely enter...
$700 is not a lot of money. Looks like they want you to do some work in assembly but that snug fit is asking too much of certain people
Have you try Albion swords?
It would ring alarm bells if there WAS a signature on the blade. That would make the sword contraband (belonging to the family of the one whos signature is on the blade).
I like it, but I'm kind of skeptical about the hamon being polished into the blade instead of tempered into it. Being tempered with clay is what makes them so durable, this doesn't look like that happened in my opinion. But with YT's bandwith the video may not show us what you see.
That is a genuine hamon . . . It’s clearly been etched with acid to increase the contrast with the rest of the bevel but that’s a real hamon.
@@tommyharshaw9431 you think it's a genuine hamon I'm not sure it looks too uniform
@@TSD972 it’s not too difficult for a forge to produce a uniform hamon. And acid etching can be used to cover up slight deviations. See pretty much all of Hanwei’s commercial offerings compared to the same products with custom polishes.
I would ask about hardness of this katana against steel
Did the tape leave marks on the blade that was difficult to remove?
Nice looking blade, but I do not think it's worth $700.00.
Which knife did u use to cut the box...??
That hamon line is spot on mate!
It's an acid edge not a real temper line
@@creeper13ization no, it’s not. It’s been enhanced with acid but that’s not what a cosmetic hamon looks like. That’s a genuine hamon with etching over the top, very similar to what CAS Hanwei does
@@tommyharshaw9431 go by one and see
@@creeper13ization I don’t know what to tell you bud, go look at pictures compiled on places like sword forum international and sword buyers guide. Or any one of the literal thousands of examples of authentic hamons versus fake ones. Also, like I said, you can acid etch over a real hamon and that’s what I expect this is.
Where's the review part? Does it cut bamboo mats? Does it keep it's edge? How tight is the handle wrapped? How heavy is it? ..........
That looks like the same booklet that came with my Shinwa years ago. What manufacturer is this by?
The certificate of authenticity said it was the Kawashima Steel “H” series
@@RespectThePep
川島steelなんて会社は日本には存在しないですね😩
There is no such Kawashima steel in Japan.
@@hirot988 I’m aware.
Same case my shinwa came in, i didn't get a booklet just a certificate of authenticity
Looks nice what Kind of steel is it 1095 carbon steel folded or what
I would say for 700 I am not overly impressed but it doesn't look terrible. I would have preferred a little easier of a fitment into the saya. I know Habon forge makes some really good katanas and other Japanese swords. They also make some amazingly beautiful Chinese jian swords.
I kind of disagree with you there bro. It does look pretty bad, but starts to look terrible when as you look at it you remember its sticker price of $700. Has many Chinese-signature moves that signify this is coming from the BAD side of HAMMERTOWN, and not a blade from any reputable dealer. Musashi, Munetoshi, Hanwei would have all done better for $500.
Looks like fine piece of industrial product with wonderful hand-made details. Of course,that not original old sword, but nice for personal collection martial arts weapons.
I have been tempted to give Aliexpress a try, but this killed that idea. Gap in the habaki, ill-fitting tsuka, mekugi and saya. Tsuba and fuchi looks like they might rattle. The ito is not alternating. Too much DIY needed for a $700 sword.
this is the best one I bought on Aliexpress compared to others I bought there earlier. I think it's the best katana you can find there. in any case, I haven't seen any better
To see if the sword is what it should be make a video of slashing some bamboo reeds then you'd know if it is worthv of your 700$. If its for display purposes only, nevermind.
@@ExtremeGamingHD3D hi
.....if you think is too much work.....then pay US$5000,00 for a real hand made katana.....
@@cesarvial Why do that when you can get a Ronin Dojo Pro for $300? If I want a DIY project I’ll get a Musha for $100.
You sure have a beautiful katana that has an exquisite hamon. I'm happy for you. It's really money well spent.
my friend and me loves the hamon, and the type of blade are beautiful too
edit: I don't speak English too much, sorry for the mistakes
"My friend and I love the hamon, and we agree that this type of blade is beautiful as well."
Good job though, you got your point across. 👍
Hey! Excuse my curiosity, but what is the blade width in centimeters next to the habaki and next to the kissaki? Do you know what her steel is?
Wow..., What a wonferful sword..!
Congratulations..!
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Problem with traditional katanas are if you're not a good swordsman and your blade alignment is not good hitting a hard target you will bend the sword and it will remain bent until you bend it back. I prefer spring steel.
gay steel.
SERIOUS QUESTION, How much for the Tsuba? If you would sell it please reply I'll pay for it and shipping.
Полагаю, когда японские кузнецы смотрят как автор данного видео собирает катану, плачут кровавыми слезами и пьют "Корвалол". Печально.
enjoyed the way you presented the unboxing of your sword.
I like the saya. It's lacqured samegawa. It's a decent sword and the hamon and the blade is real with a 60 HRC so it's probably a 1090 or T10 steel, except its not made in Japan. The Japanese are not allowed to sell their blades(its their government mandate) online, that's why most of these blades are made in China or other parts of the world. Cut the paper starting from near the Habaki going forward, let the blade cut not forcing it and you'll see how sharp it is next time.
Did you deliver in India.
Such a beautiful sword! Looks like putting it together is a bit of a hassle tho
Charm for some, hassle for buyers
Donde la compraste?
Yep you got Gypped my dude right away when I saw the hamon line I knew the pattern is too perfect a real hamon line goes in all sorts of directions this looks like a wire brush stenciled hamon depending on the steel I think 1060 and up you can make your own hamon line all you need is a forge and some fireplace cement or plaster of Paris works like a champ too..
They can look that even. A lot of the live blades coming out of China have a similar look. What I didn't see were the laminated layers just like the Chinese ones because they aren't folded because the carbon content is already high enough for the properties of steel. Folded blades usually start out in the $3000 dollar range.
Is a litle bit much for a steel katana if it was made of titanium or a special steel aloy or other rare metals .I dont like steel too much because it oxideies a stanless one could be beter if you add manganise or vanidium you make it tough and resistance to oxidation
That's a real sword by all practical and esthetical means it's the word, the whole blade may need polishing to bring out the shine and sharpness.
An Ikea sword that looks like scratched on purpose? Bro, if you have to assemble your sword with a steel that looks like shit... watch a few videos how it's done in Japan and never buy a sword that isn't completely construct by a swords smith
Could you take relaxing ends style any more
So much negativity and jealousy in the comments,your sword is amazing bro enjoy it! I gave you a like and I subscribed😎
I think it has nothing to do with jealous,... I mean if I would by a swisser Army knife or a knife from Solingen and it cuts through a paper without ripping at the end well than that's not a original Japan katana. I paid for my katana 2700€ when I was in Nagasaki. Just saying
Can it be sold to Hong Kong
Positive Thoughts, now you ready for the Walking Dead.
It's made from china, durability 1/10 to the genuine one.
Solo viendo como has puesto la tsuka...se ve que tú de katanas entiendes poco. Madre mía, que brutalidad 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Además, el papel puede desafilar el Ha.
"Real katana from China"
Impossible.
I got a ninjato same brand for $126 made of 1060 the blade is decent enough, if you will replace the cosmetics it would be more decent.
All your money went into that saya and the box lol
Honestly it looks like a decent piece. Maybe a bit pricey but much of that was for the rayskin saya, those are tough to do in general even if they stamp them out like cookies and that polish costs some time/money too. So all in all I'd say a good get. And shit, it a sword, a real functional sword!!!
Funny thing is, that saya isn't actually rayskin, it's just wood with a rayskin pattern painted on it.
No it's not painted. It's wrapped, lacquered black, sanded down, then re lacquered with clear finish. Buffalo horn then added to the mouth and end. It would take more time to paint the pattern than to actually do it correctly. That's not paint dude ...
So what is the normal price for a high quality fighting sword? Ive heard that some people spend thousands of dollars for katanas. What would a samurais sword cost today besides the historical value
Thousands
Although China is know for reproductions of real things and can be a good thing or really bad, I would say this is not too bad. I would personally rather save the money to get an authentic katana handmade from Kyoto, Japan. What you have is a real expensive decoration from china.
the tamahagane steel in the original katanas from japan are not so good, so i don't think so, that a truely japanese katana would be my first choice ...
You are like relaxing end (a youtuber as well) but incognito
If this katana is from China it can't be real 😂
There are forges in China that use Japanese steel and forge in the traditional Japanese method. So still a real katana.
There are hand forges in China well, and they are good quality. Not the superior quality you get from a hand-forged Japanese blade of course, bit still good. The price will also reflect this as there would be about a €2,000 price tag difference, all depending on the forger and how famous he is in Japan.
@@StoneCircleExotics It's a replica. Using the same technique doesn't make it genuine.
@@StoneCircleExotics No
Only trash is made in China.
can you tell if the steel is real and hardned .?
Damn, Gaming has escalated...
I don’t think he does it for gaming :)
Looks like it's a pretty blade, is it from japan or somewhere else? How about the tempered/hamon lines?is it real as well?or sand blasted?..thanks anyway for this video
Chinese made
I hate to be that guy again, but you kind of got ripped off. The poor fit of both the Tsuka and saya tells allot, and both present saftey issues. The Ito looks haphazardly done with cheap material, the habaki doesnt fit the blade, the Nakago is really rough which is also worrisome tell about the quality of the blade tempering. Absolutely no care was taken into the manufactering of this sword-like-object, even as a display piece it is poor and grossly overpriced. The only thing I can't be sure of is the authenticity of the hamon, as I would need to see it how it changes in the light up close, but considering how haphazardly every other part of this sword-like-object was put together and the overdone polish, I'd question its authenticity. I know my words probably don't mean much to you, but I really wish you promoting these shady sellers and unaccountable forges. Not only are you supporting bad buisness, your endangering your viewers who do not know how to identify a poorly made sword, and could seriously injure themselves or anyone around if the blade fails. Anyone who watches this guys videos, if you are new to katana and want to buy your first sword, do not purchase from aliexpress. Hanwei, Huawei, Dynasty Forge, Iron TIger Forge, Musha, Ronin Katana, Hanabira, Yomikuni, hell I dont like them but even Jkoo/Sinosword. These are all reputable forges with quality blades that are all highly praised and peer reviewed with in the Sword community. Most of them have their own websites but can also be found on renown sword dealers like Kult of Athena.
Yea the mekugi was unnecessary or maybe it was there to avoid slipping of poor handle wrap,bad fitting are the main problems and hamon line does have a different color but it had some kind of a weird rythm which may could be made by machines and not hand but the worst thing is the price jesus christ 700 bucks?
Damn we sound so geek😂
Apparently i cant open the website for Kult of Athena. Thx for mentioning this. I thought Ronin katana is good since alot of ppl said it is. Just wondering what abt Paul Chen, Swords of the Northshire and True Katana? Are they good quality?
@@uniqnjun1078
First off, Ronin is a very good supplier, if you see something you like, you wont be dissapointed. The Only complaint Ive heard from their Dojo Pro models is the kurigata tends to be really cheap, but overall is not that important. I'd Avoid Swords of Northshire. They have a very mixed reputation among community, most higher level practictioners disavow them, however they're abit biased too. The only reason to go through SN is if you want color options, If you do decide to commission from them, I recommend keeping your blade specs as simple as possible, to keep error margins low.
I would also recommend Jkoo/Sino sword, they offer a similar product quality to SN, but a little bit cheaper.
Also, Personally I'm not a fan of Hanwei, but allot people swear by them, both collectors and practioners who actually train in a dojo and compete in tournaments. Allot of people actually buy them just for the blades alone and spend several hundred dollars having them refitted professionally by craftsman. If you want to try a hanwei blade, I recomend the Practical Plus Katana XL It has a very unique blade geometry and is coveted by many.
@@notsans9995 ahh alright. Thank u so much! Will keep this in mind
Não estou achando a loja pra comprar no Aliexpress, alguém me ajuda?
Tenho muita vontade de comprar uma espada de samurai
That actually looks good, surprisingly
I’m skeptical of the claim of it being “traditionally made.” A real Katana requires 7 different professional craftsmen/artisans to manufacture 1 unit, and that is the tradition to this very day.
1. The Blade Manufacturer (Tosho)
2. Wood Worker (handle, sheath, etc. (Saya Shi)
3. The Fittings (Tosogu Shi)
4. The Habaki (Habaki Shi)
5. The Wrapping (Tsukamaki Shi)
6. The Blade Polisher (Togi Shi)
7. The Lacquerer (Nuri Shi)
With China’s booming mass production economy, I doubt they’re taking that much time for each unit they’re sending out.
Publius2k4 I assume what they mean by that is that the sword was forged rather than ground out of a piece of steel. I don't think they would have gone as far as to use tamahagane and bothered folding the billet and forge welding it. It would be much simpler for them to use bar stock of 10** series steel and forge it into shape. It's not like anyone could tell the difference anyway, and a hamon is easy enough to get with differential hardening.
700bucks and they wrap the handle with shoelace?
I think this is chinese imitation unfortunately.
I live in tokyo but i won't find such a cheap cost katana of real.
If it's real,It must be at least 5000 USdollars…
Try a bamboo strike. If you press the correct buttons then you earn more resolve.
I have a real Patek Philippe turbilion from Turkey and a real Audemars Piqued from Bosnia.
You know what I mean?
What? U wanna come rob me?
Would you really do it?, for two pieces of shit watches from Turkey and Bosnia, if you are a burglar by profession, then I suggest you change your line of business cause you don’t have a fucn clue what is worth stealing
What? U wanna come rob me?
Would you really do it?, for two pieces of shit watches from Turkey and Bosnia, if you are a burglar by profession, then I suggest you change your line of business cause you don’t have a fucn clue what is worth stealing
Idk what went on here but let's just say it was sticky situation that escalated quickly . . . 🤔
Very nice, why no signature? and are you happy with the Quality for the money?
coz it's fake sword.
Japanese sword made in China.
Muito linda ❤🍫💎
Does anyone know where you can buy katanas made in Japan for about 5k? I know that the mastercrafted katanas do not go for that cheap, but is there a middle thing between USD 500 of China katanas and the 30k+ Japanese made ones?
If someone answers you, I am also curious.
@@AyoJayArr nothing yet :(
Little late but there a channel called “let’s ask shogo” where he has some videos of where you can buy them in Japan
Sadly, that piece is very overpriced for the quality you got. The transitions are bulky, the Polish on the blade is not great, I could be wrong that appears to be zinc on the guard; which I have had experiences with those breaking. You would be much better spending that kind of money from Brands such as Huawei, Hanwei, or Dragon King. I hope you enjoy your purchase, but if you were to make another I'd recommend looking elsewhere.
@Bro Brah thaisuki has unique designs but have issues they should not for the price category. If you pay that much, i would recommend motohara or citadel.
@Bro Brah loose ito (wrap), sloppy transitions, i would recommend getting a quote from motohara first. Most customers love them, if they are too expensive citadel is a great alternative. For other issues with thaisuki you should check Matthew Jensen's review of them.
Really beautiful! I like it!
Tested the swords sharpness on a piece of paper before realizing it was the guarantee !! 😁 kidding 😁
Como puedo hacer quiero comprar Una Katana un contacto para comunicarme con ustedes.
Just because its from China doesn't make it a real katana. Buy a Japanese sword.
Just because it authenticly comes from Japan won't make it more durable or stronger than a modern chinese made one. I can assure you of that. Modern steel is way better than any steel on an old real katana from Japan.
This guy is the "yang" of the channel relaxing end.
日本で使わない漢字を使っている。
どこの国の製品?
こんな事するのはもちろん中国人
Is the music you play from Ghost of Tsushima
Made in China should be a clue that it's not a real katana
most of the katanas in the market are manufactured in china, even th good ones; if you want to buy a nihonto from japan from a master swordsmith it'll cost you more than 12 to 20k euros.
@@katana24
$700で中国製の偽物の刀を買うくらいなら、京都東山堂の日本製ハンドメイドの居合刀を買った方がよっぽど満足が得られると思うよ
Hey bro I have need $700 price blade. How can I get it. I am from Bangladesh.
爆笑🤣
I have to give them credit for taking such a risk with 700.00. I would say you lucked out here. The fittings are very nice especially the tsuba. The tsuka-ito knots look pretty uniformed. The hamon thanks to the close up looks legitimate to me. There's different ways a hamon is achieved fake ones being wire-brushed with a template or acid etched. At first from a distance it looked wire-brushed and polished but the close up looking at the lines above to me it looks like it was truly clay tempered. Plus it's nice that it comes with the box which is just your standard silk and foam but still nice to have as well as the silk sword bag even the stand was a nice touch with a flawless black lacquer finish also a nice quality touch using velvet on the bottom of the stand pieces. Expensive but I would say you got a good sword.
Looks terribly bad for the price.
seriously?
Yes, seriously. Check out Matthew Jensen's yt channel. He does sword reviews.
I came in terribly hard and I am sorry. I am sure you can enjoy your katana as is! :)
I suggest you check this out: www.reddit.com/r/KatanaSwords/comments/jcoz9o/which_company_should_you_buyor_not_buy_from/?
I got a SBG T10 custom katana and am happy. I also got an "expensive" Lyuesword and was disappointed. Cheers!
@@atarigonzo6928 thank you
Is it worth of 700? Have you tested it?
Katanas aren't actually from China there from Japan
this one he bought from china. Japan is just the country of origin.
@@lordhunterluasuperior905 you sure cause the writing on it is Japanese.
@@VeImir as far as i know the products of Aliexpress are all from china, maybe he came from china but whoever sold from there ordered from japan, or, left the kanji writing to become more traditional with a japanese sword.
@@lordhunterluasuperior905 kanji and hiragana.
@@lordhunterluasuperior905 maybe but a katana is a Japanese sword not Chinese.
I like how you risk damaging the box by very crudely cutting it with a dull knife.
the hamon pattern is beautiful
Finally, katana from china
Livraison pour la France ?
Guide me how can I buy
What type steel?
I have a swiss watch in the mail right now coming straight from china my guy. Also, you've got some nerve handling a cheap replica with satin gloves on.
Sir I also want to buy this one how can I buy this one IAM from India Karnataka state hassan district
I have serious doubt about edge retention on anything made in China.
The paper was the test reports on the blade metal. 60 Rockwell C scale is very hard a tough. Good stuff here.
How sharpe is it......really?
Dimanah beli ny
Ita a gorgeous piece. I would love to buy one, but i want an authentic katana not some cheap knockoff. I'll sure like some advice as to where to look.