How to repair a Vintage Fender Deluxe reverb tube guitar amp Noise Smoke D-Lab
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- Here's my newest repair. This one needed the works. New Filter Capacitors, resistors, diagnostics, etc. After replacing all obvious components, it sprang to life. I was happy to see the beautiful scope sine wave. This amp will be ready to serve another 40 years. Hope you enjoy. I love these old relics
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He's an amp tech, a comedian, AND a lush! ;-) Seriously, Terry - you are the MAN!
All hail D Lab,Uncle Doug and Brad the Guitologist.
Hal Pecher
All my favorite amp guys.😉👍
Don’t forget mr Carlson lol
@@BillMcGirr My favorites as well!
I learned more from D-lab & Uncle Doug than I did from my electronics classes.
Terry, I worked for a music store in the 90's and our rule was all used tube amps got new caps before they went on the sales floor. Very few ever came back with complaints.
3 videos on vintage equipment in a row is like having Christmas. Keep on the good work, Terry. I wouldn't mind seeing repair videos for all the amps you have laying around.
I'll keep them coming man. Took the day off to kick out repairs.
These are so fun to watch.
Awesome Job Terry .......Guitar tube amps is the stuff
Good work Terry. You changed out exactly what I have changed out on my Fender amps. Bring on more vids.
I commented on the Vibroverb, so ditto! Love ya Terry! Keep em' comin'! Thankz
Enjoy your videos Sir. Your simple explanations I'm sure are a big help for a beginner.
That is my amp! Thanks Terry! Can't wait to get it back!
It was a fun project. Hope the Vibroverb serves you well.
Another home run. I'm glad to hear that you have a big pile of amps to repair. More videos for us :o)
These are great videos!
Love this guy! Thanks for the video!
look forward to more amp videos
Very nice Terry. I had one of those (and a SF Princeton Rev) until last October. Both were temporarily in my bro's barn up in Northern California and the barn burned down. Big bummer; I owned both of those amps since the 80's and one had an Altec 417 and the other a JBL D120 speaker. Both AB763 amps. After the fire I looked at them and there was nothing to salvage. The tubes had melted and collapsed in on themselves from the vacuum.
I've got a 72 twin reverb that's started to blow fuses...using 3amp sloblow for years ,now it's time to give it a look thru....
It doesn't matter if they are vintage amps or old Grundig stereo receivers, before applying any power to gear that has been sitting forever, shotgun all of the caps for safety's sake! Black Beauties are some of the most notorious caps ever produced.
Love these videos, Cheers! It's time for a glass of vino!
de SVØXBH/9
looks good
Nice!
I love the deluxe reverb. The blackface Deluxe Reverb is one of my most favorite amps of all. It just needs a master volume and it would be perfect. LOL
I agree. The BlackFace Deluxe that I had was also sweet. I was 17 when I bought it and it needed repairs. So I learned how to repair!
Great vid. Thanks for your time. I get some Fender amps through the shop that have the waxy perf board and this also seems to be the source of many intriguing noises. Do you have any advice on how to deal with this? I have taken to "baking" the affected areas with a heat gun to drive the acidified wax away from the HV terminals with some success. I insert a new layer of insulating material between the the top and base boards too. This can make a big difference. It is very humid here in UK and this is a recurring fault. Such a pain as the noise is akin to actual component failure, (eg: cap breakdown). Apologies if you have covered this in a previous vid. Dave.
You have made more sense in this amp repair to me than any other demonstration I've viewed so far. I have five twins ,one super , four champs, two pro reverbs, two bass
mans with cabinets and a deluxe reverb. I need work done on most of them.
Cool deal man, Let me know if I can be of more assistance. Have fun with the projects. TD
Hi Terry! It's nice to see those USAF soldering skills at work! I do the 1 ohm cathode resistors, too! I use the military type when I can get them. Question: What is the plate voltage? I'm curious about the plate dissipation.
Vino time in CA is 3PM!
Holy crap! You can do stained glass with that soldering iron!
That is my Dad's Ungar. He used it to solder slot car brass chassis. Very fond memories for me.
nice.
Hey Terry, new subscriber here thanks to the guitologist also your videos are like crack to a junkie hahahaha love them.
Those ceramic disc caps that were attached to the tubes, why were they cut off on one end and how come you removed them.
Great job. Terry! your always a hoot to watch . liking tube theihter too , but why not camouflage the coat hanger a little. hee,hee
I’ve got one of these, it’s a 79.
It’s got all new caps.
The amp sounds fantastic! But....
The bass is a bit fuzzy when pushing the amp and the treble is a bit ice pick like.
Cant turn the treble past 2 and the bass past 4
Any ideas?
Hi MrTerry. Do you work only with audio equipaments? Regards from SP Brazil.
I also repair Ham Radio equipment
Nice, i am electronic technician too, but never worked with ham radios. I love your channel and your patience to teach this wonderful profession. Thanks.
Burgoseletronica I
Thanks Terry!! Hey, what became of the speaker noise?
That screen resistor must have been screaming just before it broke in two !! :-) :-) It couldn't stand the feeling of the power supply cap leaking and some of the old leaky coupling caps electrically leaking. :-) :-) Terry have a good day !!! John A Bellas KC2UVN
Terry! You got out ol’ snozzeramus without the sound track! I am SO disappointed! :-)
hi... love your vids. dealing with an '16 reissue dlx rev .. makes garble noise aft bout 15 min.got new JJ's before it hit my bench. appears on both channels. looks pristine ...nothing acts up when tapped both parts and tubes. do you have insights on this pcb series? going to test section by section the old fashion way . are the stock polyester coupling caps in the PI problematic /or PI plate resistors?
I understand that the SNOZZERAMUS Ungar soldering iron is getting its own movies.
They're called The Ungar Games... (I'm sorry; couldn't resist [wink!] the bad pun).
what is the B+ form the ma setting for the 6V6's ??i am into a lot of 6V6 rigs.
I just wondered what you charge for amp repairs? Is it an hourly rate plus parts? Or, by the number of units? Piece work.
Hi Terry, very late to the party here, but I have a question. At 1.39 you show the bases of the 6V6s. What is the story with the two little ceramic disc cap from pin 5 to ground? They've been disconnected but I can see the remains of a lead on pin 5 that seems to match. I note you removed them, but do you know what they were about? Earthing out high frequencies on the control grid? Whaaaa?
i did not catch what B+ was to base the 30-35ma bias setting. the reissue i have on bench is at 406 B+= 24ma@70%
So what is the proper ma value for this amp? I have been told it is between 22 and 28. Thank you
Why were the bypass cap leads clipped off...?
do you think you could check out my 65 reverb ? It was humming, & it started smoking could’ve been the dust or a bad tube
hey uncle doug, my amp is picking up a high rf frequency i think its from a nearby cell tower and it picks up around 4000hz, do u have any tips for this kind of issue???
Hey bro. I have a hot rod deluxe DeVille 3. I changed power tubes. Changed rectifier tube. Other pre amps are quite. It keeps blowing a fuse. What u think it could be? Resistor??
Terry would it ever be worth connecting two meters across both 6V6's at the same time to see if they are flowing the same current? Love your lessons - you're preparing me to work on my January 1965 Blackface Deluxe Reverb with a bit more confidence!
great vid!!! did you try the Columbia crest merlot yet?
Hey there D-Lab -- quick question. I just talked to my local fender repair guy; I need to replace my power tubes and my vibrato channel preamp tube in my DRV reissue. It was made in 2006. I bought it 2011, and the vibrato channel preamp tube needs to be replaced, as does the phase inverter tube (he recommended that as well) and the two power tubes. Just to be sure if you can tell me, the phase inverter tube is the one on the far left, just next to the power tubes, correct? As well, the the tech repairmen said that the amy is factory biased and shouldn't need to be rebiased if I put a matched pair of power tubes in. Can you confirm? He said I could bring it in if I wanted to, but it's not necessary with the reissue amps these days. I can't seem to find any schematics ore tube layouts for this amp, version AB763. Someone at the factor forgot to put on the amp the production date as well; had to call Fender to find out when it was made.
How will I know i the amp needs rebiasing? Will I hear anything? And do certain tube brands produce different tones? I'd like a little fatter tone, rather than a more trebly one, which seems to be what it's putting out, or maybe it's just me. I was just going to put in some JJ's. Got one preamp in my Blues Deluxe and it sounds fine to me.
Love your videos; fun to watch, and the wine must be good as well. Cabernet or Merlot? :-)
A good wine...
Is Rioja or Ribera Duero...?
Did you post finished product?
What value bias cap did you use, I'm struggling to find an 80/75v. Did you use an alternative?
great video, my question on 1966 fender deluxe reverb amp all original do you really need to change a two plug to a three prong plug
Only if you value your life!
At around 1:40 of the video, I saw caps soldered from ground to the Grid? And later in the video, they are not there? Did someone install caps and you removed them?
Those are snubbing caps. Fender installed them on silverface amps to prevent parasitic oscillations due to sloppy lead dress in the silverface era. They kill some of the high frequencies. Many amps are fine without them, so if the amp isn't affected by parasitic oscillation, they can be removed. The amp will sound a little better without them.
Fender Princeton
Personally, I like to douse my smoking 'Verbs with chardonnay
Stay away from the hard stuff. Bacardi 151 or Ever clear are not recommended.
Terry,
The current shunts make a lot of sense. Why doesn't Fender use them from the factory? Just curious.
No idea man, I rely on them. Could be the added costs
Hi, terry I'm no expert but did I see a ceramic disc capacitor with only one connection at around 2min 15 seconds in or am I dreaming?love all your vids.My early 1960s AC 30 hums pretty well. Cheers Rob from England....
Not unless I'm dreaming too!
What is the wattage value of the 1 ohm shunt resistors? I may have missed that in a previous vid or am I a bit off base. Thanks Doc Terry!
100watts should do, lol.
ohm's law...
1 amp, at -1 volt, 1ohm, 1 watt? one is the loneliest number...
2watts should do, only under 50mils.
Were are you from I had mine worked on and it hums a bit and makes noises at time I would like to maybe call you and you could give me some advice it's a 68 model
haaaa!!!! not the wine again!!!
Hi Terry! I wonder if you could help me out. I own a fender deluxe Reverb reissue, and something went wrong with its Reverb. The Reverb function keeps going on and off on its own. I already took it to a technician that exchanged all the valves, but that didn’t solve the problem. According to the guy, the tank, caps, cables, filters are all fine. Do you have any idea what might be causing that? Every time the Reverb fails, the amp starts sounding badly... floppy... please, show me the light!! Best regards
Osvaldo, from Brazil!
Hello, sounds like bad solder connections on the circuit board. Not a tube issue
D-lab Electronics Any thought where should I tell the technician to start looking? He has my amp for over a week and still haven’t found the problem!
The circuit board will require inspection under a well lighted magnifying glass. Concentrate on high power components/pot mounting/ribbon cables/square high wattage resistors, etc. Items that heat/cool accelerate the cracked solder issue.
D-lab Electronics ok! I will try that! Thank you so much for your attention!
One question, but first sorry for my English because I am Croatian. I have read many literature about guitar amps and many advise that the input jack, potentiometer metal part and speaker jack should be isolated from the chassis, but on almost every factory amplifier the metal part of all the jacks and the potentiometers are attached directly to the chassis. I worked the amplifiers with isolated metal parts and directly connected to the chassis and I did not have any noise in either case. What is the truth? However, I would like to work by the rules. Greetings from Croatia (Europe)!
Hello, I always use direct mounted Jacks and pots. To reduce noise/hum, use an aluminum chassis
Thank you for the quick response. I've never had noise problems since I used mostly plastic jacks and pots. But now that I know I can mount directly I will use a lot better metal.
I like to watch your videos because I learn a lot and as an older musician I prefer tube amplifiers. I especially like the old Fender amplifiers 5-15W but with the European EL84 and ECC83. Greetings!
You shunt be biased!
TERRY! put out electricity fire with WINE? hmmm, alkeehol to put out a fire. If you drink enough wine, I guess that makes sense. lol
What ever it takes man!
I would piss on it first, before I'd waste a drop of perfectly good alcohol. And in the end, piss is just the part of the alcohol that our bodies deemed no longer necessary.
note to self...
don't make peepee on high volrage!
Your wife sounds like mine.
120 hz humm
ian forster It's 120vAc at 60hz here in the U.S. 220 to 240vAc at 50hz in Europe and the U.K.
Anyway the frequency is what can be heard causing the humming.
What is your day job?
I work Aerospace/electronics Tech
32mv seems awful high for 6V6......
That setting was simply to show the bias would set (Range). If you watched the previous Vibroverb video, you will see that I could not dial in the bias. Turned out that the 6L6 tubes had issues. The final current will be adjusted when I finish the project.
robrobinette.com/Tube_Bias_Calculator.htm
Here's a good source for tube bias setting
So you missed work to go on a "Fender Bender"...LOL
More like, Avoided work
If you got a wife, you got a day job…jus’ sayin’