4 Types of Workplace Bullies

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  • @-Bloomingtales
    @-Bloomingtales ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Having to deal with all of this bs just so we can pay our bills and have a roof over our heads. It’s so exhausting. I would like to become a recluse so I don’t have to deal with this.

    • @pinkrose4322
      @pinkrose4322 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes!!! I agree with you 100 percent. Just leaving work now and exhausted from this crap. Mentally exhausted.

    • @AlissaSss23
      @AlissaSss23 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Please don't, I'm at home with anxiety and depression because of the harassment at work, I struggle to function, sleep, eat, and now I'm in constant pain too

    • @GILDCoaching
      @GILDCoaching  ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @cjclubseltzer
      @cjclubseltzer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The worst is when you have a high intensity job, so you can’t just quite quit until you find something.

    • @cherrytraveller5915
      @cherrytraveller5915 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Me too

  • @SongofaBeach2012
    @SongofaBeach2012 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    What a joke. A bully will never "correct their behavior" because Bullies (who are far too often Psycopaths, Sociopaths, and Narcissists) are incapable of any genuine inner change. These individuals have no remorse, empathy, honesty and do not live by societal norms as we do. The only way to deal with an office bully is to become non reactive and only respond with monotone non syllabic replies: Yes, No, Please, Thank you or I dont know. Never share personal information because the bully will use this against you in their gossip and smear campaign. The best and most effective way unfortunately to deal with office bullies is to just find another job. It will never stop, get better or change. And eventually these sickos find a way to paint YOU the victim as the bully in the end because their ultimate goal is to eliminate you the threat.

  • @newlife3576
    @newlife3576 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I'm sick of the toxicity and evil at work.

    • @selenem3384
      @selenem3384 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      this BS is even in ALL law firms I worked at...as an Attorney it is a rude awakening to see the worst of people you placed on a pedestal

    • @Cocokimi74
      @Cocokimi74 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Me too😭I just want to tell them shut F your mouth and do your job and go home! But I cannot tell like that😅. I thought that i wished talk them whatever what I wants but it is not worth it. So I just try to not react and response professionally 😅

    • @kristinmeyer489
      @kristinmeyer489 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's EVERYWHERE

  • @determineddi2044
    @determineddi2044 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    My husband was bullied by exclusion at his job when we lived out of state. The people in his department would have events in house and not invite him. One woman who was the major source of the problem (just another co-worker, not a boss) used to have such a terrible attitude, yet they tolerated it! I went in one day to see my husband and she was so darn nasty to me. She didn't know if I was a patient, a doctor, a supervisor from another facility or ? Unfortunately in business world there are so many horrible people you need to deal with.

    • @GILDCoaching
      @GILDCoaching  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So so sorry for the issues he experienced and the treatment you received. It's always good to remember that when someone treats us poorly it is a sign that there's something wrong with them, not us.

  • @missroxanne7123
    @missroxanne7123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Damn they are everywhere! Exhausting.

  • @elizabethmarte6996
    @elizabethmarte6996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I experienced the belittler.

  • @miamilady2278
    @miamilady2278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Im sick of working! Period!

  • @kristinmeyer489
    @kristinmeyer489 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Human resources exists for hiring, firing, and administrative functions, such as payroll. If you expect them to care about your wellbeing, you are in for a very rude awakening.

    • @jessical4403
      @jessical4403 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep, I regretfully learned the hard way, even though the signs were right in front of me. But my claws came out in the end. I was happy about that. 😁

    • @AnthonyManzio
      @AnthonyManzio 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They will fire you since manager are afraid of bullies

  • @1138pratt
    @1138pratt ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Respectfully, none of this works out for the *bullied* at all. The victim will almost ALWAYS be terminated.
    What DOES work?
    1. Leave the company as fast as you can.
    2. The bully... Uhh... Er uh... Has an "accident" outside of work that keeps them for even returning to that workplace ever.

    • @shawnmendrek3544
      @shawnmendrek3544 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ESPECIALLY IF THEY HAVE A POSITION OF POWER or they are liked by staff, it is quite sad. If you hit the person, you might even get arrested for assault, a charge that has serious consequences for your future, probably go to a higher floor in jail as well, wit hthe more serious violent people.

    • @shawnmendrek3544
      @shawnmendrek3544 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I seen my old bully a couple times and I know where he goes to workout, but he is not worth it. Most times they won't try to bully outside of work, they know they are safe at work doing whatever without consequences from the job

    • @philsaspiezone
      @philsaspiezone ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also they are cowards. Yes the law may protect the coward

    • @cherrytraveller5915
      @cherrytraveller5915 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The bullied girl at my work ended her life to get away from the boss. The boss faced no consequences of what she did. I don’t know how she looks at herself in the mirror every day seeing as she is responsible for someone’s death. Even worse the girl was autistic. It takes a truly awful person to bully an autistic person

    • @selenem3384
      @selenem3384 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@cherrytraveller5915narcissistic bosses ruin many lives and careers😢😢😢😢😢 and they don't care at all...but karma is a b!tch

  • @beneaththesurface5327
    @beneaththesurface5327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I usually explode and put them in their place in front of everyone… i am lucky no one has fired me yet and i always win so far, so i become the bully’s bully

    • @margenone1488
      @margenone1488 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That doesn't work when management is protecting them.

  • @treemanzoneskullyajan711
    @treemanzoneskullyajan711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Those poor narcissistic middle managers have worked hard all their lives so they can do some cool bullying, and now this do gooder is trying to deprive them of their birth right! Damn you!

  • @natatattful
    @natatattful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Three words: “Per our conversation…” for all documentation and emails.

    • @margenone1488
      @margenone1488 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That doesn't work either. That's good for the lawyer.

    • @AnthonyManzio
      @AnthonyManzio 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@margenone1488 true 100%

  • @hannalee3827
    @hannalee3827 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Bulllies at Workplace
    1.Screamer: feel like walking on eggshell with these people: Don't react to them, stand on your ground
    2.Schemer: Lie, make up stories, gossip behind your back: Don't participate, work ethically & honorably, document them & report to HR right away
    3.Freezer: They try to freeze you out with their authority, play favors with it: Be Kind, be professional & document your interactions, involve other people as a team
    4.Belittler: Tiny comments, Gossip or talk behind your back to make you feel small: As "is this my truth?" think their comment as a gift- you decide take it or not.

    • @selenem3384
      @selenem3384 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bullies attack you to mess up your energy system - my throat chakra and solar plexus are so messed up for working in law firms

  • @gregoryforrest8970
    @gregoryforrest8970 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    For screamers as far as colleagues go I get my phone out turn on my movie camera, and start recording the screamers. Had this situation from a workplace person.
    I work with Philippinos and this nationality love to gossip, so avoiding any of them is difficult, but I have decided if they don't want to speak English while I am present, I leave I will go to another area, mostly they won't include me in the conversation as they prefer to speak Taglago instead of English. I am ok with that I understand that some people feel more comfortable speaking their own languages, but I know it's mostly done to shun people that they don't want to include in the conversation. I just remove myself and go read a book. I generally don't want to engage in gossip however easier said than done in the workplace.

  • @mosaicowlstudios
    @mosaicowlstudios ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For anyone in here who is feeling hopeless, it is possible. However, it takes a LONG time. It is a very long game. I'm taking on a workplace bully, I started this effort over six months ago, and I don't believe it will be resolved until late this year. It very well might take a whole year when it's said and done. Currently, there is an official investigation happening on this person's bullying behavior, it was escalated past the mediation phase (this is very good, most complaints get stopped in the mediation phase at our job because then there is a claim that "we worked it out, we can get along, we will get along"). Not this time. The bully doesn't get that opportunity for the complaint to be stopped in the mediation phase. The investigator is interviewing multiple people, mostly the bully's victims. They are all ready to stand up and speak the truth. I do not see how the bully will get out of this. I expect that they will be asked to leave when the investigation is concluded. We'll see. But, the important note here is that this takes TIME. It may take several, several months. My own crusade against the bully at my job will probably take a year all-in-all.

    • @AnthonyManzio
      @AnthonyManzio 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nothing will happen only get suspended and do it all over again.

  • @shashankkulkarni993
    @shashankkulkarni993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Inscured jelaousy a d GREDDY people creates such nasty working environments.
    I am experience in my current job as well.
    Workplace bullying crrates lot of unwanted issues in life stress and healh issues in life.

    • @selenem3384
      @selenem3384 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yes I used to have a very strong throat chakra, workplace bullying and a toxic work cultured messed it up for me...also my digestive system has developed several problems - bullies and psychopaths attack your solar plexus system where your personal power lies. Being stuck in a job you hate and that makes you miserable can seriously and negatively effect your seat of personal power.

  • @thepowerofoneisinfinite237
    @thepowerofoneisinfinite237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for talking about this topic, it is very useful to help those in need of it!

  • @SkyBlue-he6kc
    @SkyBlue-he6kc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What about those that don’t greet you but the room goes silent when you walk in, they give you all the tasks they don’t want to do and so forth.
    Their laughter echoes in mind when I walk away.
    Work is such a tense and horrible place to be because of this behaviour.

  • @mgphyothant
    @mgphyothant ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Unfortunately it’s all depends on the background. If the bullies are out numbered to the victim, there is nothing you can do. The worst type of bullies are what they call bruisers at work environment. They are roaming around in group and always looking for the opportunities to harass the loner. The have very bad attitude like “You will have to take it when other bullied on you, so go around and screw as much as you could.” Unfortunately, some victims become bullies after talking those for a while. Unless management recognized and control these issues there is nothing you could.

    • @Tinymini17
      @Tinymini17 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly

    • @CB19087
      @CB19087 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's whats happening to me. I'm their target because i refused to be their target! It's pretty pathetic really, 50yrs plus men bullying a woman because she won't take her place at the bottom of the pile. Cowards the lot of them and they can F right off if they think they're going to win 😅

    • @AnthonyManzio
      @AnthonyManzio 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Managers are afraid of bullies because they will end bullying him to get fired.

  • @shawnmendrek3544
    @shawnmendrek3544 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    An other time at a job, I noticed big people love to pick on smaller people, height wise, size, strength, yet people love them. It blows myh mind. Followers, won't stand up for what is right.

    • @shawnmendrek3544
      @shawnmendrek3544 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @jessicaras4540 After looking up the context for the verses, you actually used them correctly, respect.

    • @selenem3384
      @selenem3384 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      a covert narcisssist will attack you covertly - pretending to talk about a customer in a condescending way but indirectly letting you know that is what they think of you and not the client. Sick f***ks.

  • @angel31941
    @angel31941 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very insightful video thank you for sharing it's nice to know how to handle a situation in a healthy way without getting angry or frustrated with people like this who have low emotional intelligence. Really enjoyed this video and would like to see more

  • @mn-ru4li
    @mn-ru4li 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Regarding the last comment on the "belittler" archetype, while i don't disagree with your feedback, it's important to realise that this behaviour is still bullying, and in most jurisdictions, illegal. Therefore, keep written and verbal records and account keeping. You will need this to build your case to HR / court. Having objective records is the way to 100% prove this person is a bully

  • @melaniematthews5359
    @melaniematthews5359 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful. Thank you so much.

  • @beverleyjohnson5419
    @beverleyjohnson5419 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Didn't find this helpful. When everyone is against you, and you have no support. It's hard

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  • @redcherryblossomgrowing9901
    @redcherryblossomgrowing9901 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My workplace bullies are grown up with chaos. So, they don't feel comfortable with peace when there is no drama. However, they always stimulate something in order to create drama, that makes them feel better.

  • @gregarioustumours2397
    @gregarioustumours2397 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My boss is the belittler. Probably going to quit if can't transfer. Makes my already stressful job more so.

  • @smithaday9225
    @smithaday9225 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Not like HR will help..first type of bullying comes from HR

  • @AmaLoveGoddessTV
    @AmaLoveGoddessTV หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve started to see that acting like nothing bothers you or that you don’t see anything makes them stop because they can’t get a reaction out of you. Also avoid answering personal questions about your private life don’t go out to lunch with them or be buddy buddy with them during break time. Remain detached.

  • @rayalvarez7247
    @rayalvarez7247 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At work, I tend to over-help. I know I really shouldn't, but it makes time go faster. People tend to take advantage and it's ok to a point. I'm hardly soft or a pushover, btw. We can throw hands.

  • @RangerJ602
    @RangerJ602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Write everything done in a recap or journal. Date and time

  • @Darci3333
    @Darci3333 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The real bullies are the ones in positions of power...

  • @michellebeatty7619
    @michellebeatty7619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm dealing with the screamer and freezer.

    • @magentarose6659
      @magentarose6659 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry to hear that, hope it's better now? I have the freezer and the belittler.

  • @banana9106
    @banana9106 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Sorry, this is not useful. People who bully usually get a little coterie around them to bully their target and nothing that you can do other than disappear will make it stop. I know this to my cost. I was fired from my job and not satisfied with that, one of my bullies phoned my home phone and falsely made out that I had been having a workplace affair. Broke up my marriage too.

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    • @CB19087
      @CB19087 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow, that's absolutely despicable behaviour. Although if your partner was that flaky, I'd say you were better off without them. I hope you are doing okay now 💓

    • @selenem3384
      @selenem3384 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      your coworkers need to know very little about you - they don't need to know who your spouse is, they don't need to know anything about you outside of work

  • @GPrince816
    @GPrince816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    How is asking your self "Is this my truth" a way to deal with "The Belittler" at work? You knowing that the info the bully is implying is not true is not necessarily enough to make them stop throwing passive comments at you. How about asking your self the following instead "What outcome does the belittler bully want to achieve by throwing a passive aggressive comment your way? "
    Do they want to see you get upset?
    Do they want you to report their comment your supervisor, so that it escalates to a meeting where they
    a) find some way to make it seem like you took what they said out of context
    b) justify their comment to you and make it seem like all was harmless so you look like a petty complainer
    Do they want you to second guess the quality of your work
    Do they want you to take directives from them so that they create a false sense of power higherarchy when you are actually on the same level and same pay grade?
    Once you figure out what they want you ask your self one more question, "How do I find a way to not give them the outcome that they want? They are not my supervisor."
    It would be most helpful if instructions were spelled out past asking yourself "Is this my truth?" What next? Knowing that the bilittler's comment is not your truth is not quite enough. There needs to be action steps paired with that.

  • @hangonaminute
    @hangonaminute ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Unfortunately, this advice MIGHT work if the bully is a co-worker, that is, roughly in the same position of power as you. It does not work if the bully is a supervisor or manager. The research shows that institutions will stand behind the manager. The bullied worker is forced out. If the worker sues, they relive the trauma of their experience as well as foot the bill of a slow and expensive legal process (the manager, in the meantime, is funded by the organisation). Plus, the bullied worker loses reputationally in the market-place. Workplace bullying is insidious behavior that, at its heart, is an abuse of power. With all due respect to the coach here, it cannot be solved by individual wits or resilience.

    • @RoslynGream
      @RoslynGream 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i agree is the bully is a supervisor or manager the bullied worker is forced out. Also as you said the bullied worker loses reputationally in the market place. This happened to me.

  • @jeffknowlton5200
    @jeffknowlton5200 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is it bullying if let's say you have a misunderstanding with someone and you don't handle it well?

  • @imherwerdio6852
    @imherwerdio6852 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What would somebody who comes near you purposefully singing loudly and/or obnoxiously because they know you hate it count as? Which category I mean? Plus, this person tends to gossip, seems like they want to be the center of attention, and tends to want work done for them sooner than others. This is in a food service context.

  • @dreams82ahg
    @dreams82ahg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Screamer:not react ...stand let people know you want to hear respect only...
    Schemer :no gossips ...type record be positive..keep digital record
    Freezer
    Control and prefer other differently. .. verbal and digital record ...I have requested this and you say that not available... cc to managers ..they like singular situations
    Belittlers ..

  • @Rasheens-Story
    @Rasheens-Story 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That’s literally how I intend to handle these people. It’s pathetic that they think a little remark under their breath is supposed to get us all riled up, like no honey I assume you are referring to yourself 😂 it’s very ridiculous though that grown folks really act like this in the work place. You’d think after a person reaches a certain age they’d know how to conduct themselves but no they genuinely believe they are still in high school

  • @shawnmendrek3544
    @shawnmendrek3544 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Let me start out by saying HR does not care. I been harrased, sexually assaulted at work(long story) by a guy once and multiple women, also bullies, they never cared. However this current job presents a new third bullet, different from the other 2 at other jobs, this one showed change, the bully at my current job aka my leader, he always likes to harass and try to make my day hell. So I went and prayed to Jesus for taking care of the battle for me, so today I went in, the bully has a 100% different demeanor with me, we laughed a bit and talked and he gave me a compliment for the first time.
    God is good. I experienced bullies a lot in my younger days until I punched them or slammed their head into something. Older later in life, the bullies were at places where I made money, so I tried the professional route of telling HR/boss and even told people, they all laughed and said oh he is just joking that is how he jokes. The world is a weird place.
    it seems if you are a man, being harrased or touched by women, HR thinks you are joking, if you are a woman, you get the red carpet. Just my experience.

  • @healthy_midlife
    @healthy_midlife หลายเดือนก่อน

    what should I do with the records of "freezer"?.....?

  • @Eri-Wi-
    @Eri-Wi- ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, bully's doesn't want to get into trouble.

  • @really5453
    @really5453 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't know what the point of dividing them into types is. Maybe a better way to understand workplace bullying is to study narcissism and realize that they will do any tactic they can to gain control. Which is exactly my experience.

  • @margenone1488
    @margenone1488 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    None of these tips work. Most of the time, management terminates the victim. Yet, I don't understand how these non‐effective trainings help. Other then charging the company for them.
    I've been physically assaulted by a staff member without provication, it was so bad that she sent me to the hospital.
    The job gave her a slap on the wrist and I was transferred out to bubba land a 2 hours plus commute. It was hell.
    While, Companies and government offices allow and accept these behaviors, it will never STOP!
    Give me a job working from home anytime.

  • @CodyWright-pq3eq
    @CodyWright-pq3eq 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm a screamer for sure. I don't scream at anyone, just around them. Scream and cuss. I've got a short temper and can't help it. When I get frustrated I scream.

  • @shashankkulkarni993
    @shashankkulkarni993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ok thanks for information.
    @ workplace bullying
    nasty behavior at work place creates
    Unwanted stress . Absolutely created lot of issues in my job's life
    Experiencing lot of unwanted hedache.
    fear of such brainstroke
    Heart issues due to nasty sarcastic work place physcopaths

  • @joeycooper6223
    @joeycooper6223 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have two jobs, One is my job!! the other job is how to deal with asshole coworkers !! I don't get paid enuff

  • @IsaVei-r8v
    @IsaVei-r8v หลายเดือนก่อน

    They lie abut me, what can i do?

  • @healthy_midlife
    @healthy_midlife หลายเดือนก่อน

    what if the belittler is right ex: I can't draft engineering as a receptionist, it's true, I would have no clue

  • @lucindanonhebel5329
    @lucindanonhebel5329 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The advice on how to deal with "the freezer" is excellent, but I hope they don't ignore the email! If so, I guess you escalate the request.

  • @Rayman1971
    @Rayman1971 ปีที่แล้ว

    They give you static, you give them grief,
    they give you grief, you give them hostility,
    they give you hostility, you empty the frreakin' silos!!!!

  • @gbbologna5357
    @gbbologna5357 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am dealing with a screamer and a belittler

  • @healthy_midlife
    @healthy_midlife หลายเดือนก่อน

    boss would question why I typed minutes, if he did not ask me to do so

  • @divafaria1227
    @divafaria1227 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happen to me bullying horrible fell down.

  • @tammyortega4646
    @tammyortega4646 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't gossip

  • @Video-ls7gy
    @Video-ls7gy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2 min. she STILL not started 😢

  • @ddreas
    @ddreas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how to stop being bullied: stop being stupid and become a normal person for once

  • @deeannawindsor6319
    @deeannawindsor6319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Feel pity on the workplace bullies.As for them they need to get help by attending church regularly accept the Lord Jesus as their lord and savior in their mind and heart and soul. Pray for God to forgive them.Revenge is Gods job not yours

    • @chiron_uncoded5912
      @chiron_uncoded5912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No feel empathy for the victim. God helps those who help themselves and never requires anyone to willfully suffer. Self defense is not a sin. Lying about it would be but if your truly being mistreated telling the supervisor and getting them fired, calling the police or calling a lawyer for a lawsuit is absolutely just and they deserve exactly whatever happens. Ash to ash and dust to dust for their career. Bury them and let God be the judge of them.

    • @realmsabovetheclouds3619
      @realmsabovetheclouds3619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My bully boss does go to church. Two people have said he has a church face and another face. Like Jekyll and Hyde! I dont go to that church anymore!

  • @sheeshashoo6661
    @sheeshashoo6661 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dont take people personally, as long as u get money and they dont harm you keep going to work and meet people there, but if they start harming you, then run away asap

    • @rodneysmith3719
      @rodneysmith3719 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Do you think harming is just physical alone, are you serious.

  • @OK-wb1dy
    @OK-wb1dy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน