As someone who will be getting his Prius Prime soon I appreciate these videos. Nice to know that you can heat up the interior in EV only and the gas engine only starts when turning on the defrost.
Appreciate that you actually put in effort to test certain functions in your videos! Did you by any chance notice very noisy (heatpump) fans at some point? I read some complaints here and there.
if you set the climate control to auto, outside air, and ac off it keeps the windows from fogging and reduces energy usage as the heat pump only has to heat the cabin instead of both cooling and heating the air.
Good video Jared. I’ve noticed that once the engine comes on it seems to take a long time before the car returns to EV mode (ie engine off). I’ve ended up cycling power to the car to force it back into electric only. Find that Toyota doesn’t really tell you too much about this.
You are correct. And it’s annoying. LOL. I think they do that to warm up the engine. Ive done the same thing though, I don’t know how many times I’ve turned it off then on to reset it back to EV. Thanks for watching. We do appreciate it
So there are two things with that. First you can remote start while plugged in, but….it will not charge or flow current to the battery. I had to go and try all of this before sending you this message. It warmed up in about 3 minutes. But it definitely stopped charging when I started it remotely.
@@grabagearcolorado That's exactly what I was looking for thank you so much. My trip to work is 30 miles, so I'll still have plenty of range leftover, then I can charge at work for free. I just wanted to be sure I won't be getting into a freezing cold car over the winter. I'm glad to hear it warms up inside in 3 minutes. This car keeps impressing me and I don't even have it yet!
@@the_salty_captain on Monday the hyper mile video comes out. And I hope you watch it. It is absolutely amazing. Honestly I want you to send me another message with your guess on hyper mile MPG. I’ll give you a hint….. better than EPA says. 😂
@@grabagearcolorado well being that I've extensively researched these vehicles (especially the xse premium, since thats the one I'm getting). EPA says 39mi EV range for the XSE and up and 44mi for the SE. There's a video somewhere of the SE outperforming by about 8 miles. I'm going to say about the same for the XSE premium. Being conservative, lets say 45 miles EV range / 52 mpg HV mode / and Auto HV/EV mode somewhere low 70's?? ** No spoilers - I'm subscribed and waiting for your update. Keep it up with this great technical content! Everyone else is just blurting out the same regurgitated stats. You are actually providing real-world data!
--of course my auto HV/EV mode estimate is assuming it isn't forced into HV mode due to depleted battery, windshield defrost, extreme ambient temps... etc
Sorry I didn’t see you reply. Lvl 1 takes ALOT longer but does work for most ppl. Plug in when you get home and it’s ready by morning. Lvl 2 would be half or 1/3 the time. Hope that helps. Again sorry for the late response
@@grabagearcolorado Besides being faster, using 220 is more economical. On 120 the battery cooling/heater has to run for 10 or so hours. On the higher voltage those devices only have to operate for 1/2 (or so), the time.
Winter driving lets say at -40 (using a extreme it does get that cold where i am ) if you leave driving in pure electric does the gass engine start to warm up itself or does it just turn on cold in the middle of your drive? (Can you force the car to drive in pure electric at that temp, traveling back and forth to work about 8km and it would be awesome if i could do the drive both ways on electric) but if it does just start in the middle of the drive that would be Terrible for the engine. (I have the prius c where e enging is the only form of heat so it allways has to be warned up) i want to upgrade to the plug in prius but its hard finding any info?
Thanks for the comment. So here in Colorado it gets pretty cold, all winter I noticed that I “start” the car in EV mode every day. If the temp is below 30 degrees the engine will start after I start driving. It will stay running for about 4-5 minutes. Overall I have used 1/10 of the tank of gas in the last 4 months. And I drive it every single day, about 15 miles. So not too bad. Now I can’t “force” it to not start the engine. It does what I wants lol. I put it in EV mode but it still starts, it starts and uses EV mode until the engine is warm. Then turns off. So no work load on the engine. It just idles while warming up and EV mode is active. I hope that helps
@@grabagearcolorado We collected our 2024 Prime five weeks ago (after a 21 month wait !), and so far we are impressed with it. It's our third Prius but first plug-in. What appealed to us most with the new Prime is the EV only range. We are now retired so our daily travel is much lower than it was with the first two cars. When I'm driving the car it returns an 80km EV range, that's 50 miles. My wife has more of a lead foot so she gets less on a charge, maybe 50km. The heat pump is a major draw so even a low temperature setting and a low fan speed makes the range drop far more quickly. And, depending on both fan speed and temperature settings, the engine will start even in full EV mode. Our aim with this car was to reduce fuel consumption as much as possible. Even though our province is an oil producing region we pay among the highest fuel prices in NA. As of this morning a US gallon costs $7.26 (that's $1.919 per litre times 3.78 litres in a US gallon). So, reducing gas consumption is a priority for us. Our hydro rate is at .1325 Kwh. That means we can charge the car from empty for $1.72 CAD. Less than a third the cost for gas for 80km. Keep in mind, it's still early spring here and daytime temperatures hover around 5 to 6 c (42~44 F). The range will increase as summer takes over. Also, our winters in this part of the country are milder than Colorado (it seldom drops below -6 or 7 c), so our winter range will still make using the EV mode sensible.
As someone who will be getting his Prius Prime soon I appreciate these videos. Nice to know that you can heat up the interior in EV only and the gas engine only starts when turning on the defrost.
Thanks. We have more information coming out soon. Thanks for watching
Appreciate that you actually put in effort to test certain functions in your videos! Did you by any chance notice very noisy (heatpump) fans at some point? I read some complaints here and there.
I did not hear it. I will definitely check this morning when I take my kid to school.
if you set the climate control to auto, outside air, and ac off it keeps the windows from fogging and reduces energy usage as the heat pump only has to heat the cabin instead of both cooling and heating the air.
I’ll have to try it
Good video Jared. I’ve noticed that once the engine comes on it seems to take a long time before the car returns to EV mode (ie engine off). I’ve ended up cycling power to the car to force it back into electric only. Find that Toyota doesn’t really tell you too much about this.
You are correct. And it’s annoying. LOL. I think they do that to warm up the engine. Ive done the same thing though, I don’t know how many times I’ve turned it off then on to reset it back to EV. Thanks for watching. We do appreciate it
Good to know. Thanks. I usually have it set to 77 or lower. 80 is too hot.
Agreed
I'll be getting mine soon. Can you remote start it while its plugged in and how long does it take to warm up in that situation?
So there are two things with that. First you can remote start while plugged in, but….it will not charge or flow current to the battery. I had to go and try all of this before sending you this message. It warmed up in about 3 minutes. But it definitely stopped charging when I started it remotely.
@@grabagearcolorado That's exactly what I was looking for thank you so much. My trip to work is 30 miles, so I'll still have plenty of range leftover, then I can charge at work for free. I just wanted to be sure I won't be getting into a freezing cold car over the winter. I'm glad to hear it warms up inside in 3 minutes. This car keeps impressing me and I don't even have it yet!
@@the_salty_captain on Monday the hyper mile video comes out. And I hope you watch it. It is absolutely amazing. Honestly I want you to send me another message with your guess on hyper mile MPG. I’ll give you a hint….. better than EPA says. 😂
@@grabagearcolorado well being that I've extensively researched these vehicles (especially the xse premium, since thats the one I'm getting). EPA says 39mi EV range for the XSE and up and 44mi for the SE. There's a video somewhere of the SE outperforming by about 8 miles. I'm going to say about the same for the XSE premium. Being conservative, lets say 45 miles EV range / 52 mpg HV mode / and Auto HV/EV mode somewhere low 70's?? ** No spoilers - I'm subscribed and waiting for your update. Keep it up with this great technical content! Everyone else is just blurting out the same regurgitated stats. You are actually providing real-world data!
--of course my auto HV/EV mode estimate is assuming it isn't forced into HV mode due to depleted battery, windshield defrost, extreme ambient temps... etc
If you have the vehicle plugged in, can you precondition the cabin on shore power?
Yes you can. I did exactly that yesterday morning
Awesome, thanks man!!
Do you use level 1 or level 2? They said level 1 is not as efficient as level 2 is that true?
Sorry I didn’t see you reply. Lvl 1 takes ALOT longer but does work for most ppl. Plug in when you get home and it’s ready by morning. Lvl 2 would be half or 1/3 the time. Hope that helps. Again sorry for the late response
@@grabagearcolorado Besides being faster, using 220 is more economical. On 120 the battery cooling/heater has to run for 10 or so hours. On the higher voltage those devices only have to operate for 1/2 (or so), the time.
So they have resistive heaters and a coolant heater . I wonder how many watts the electric heater is ?
I’m unsure of that. But it does lower the range by about 10%. Same with AC.
Winter driving lets say at -40 (using a extreme it does get that cold where i am ) if you leave driving in pure electric does the gass engine start to warm up itself or does it just turn on cold in the middle of your drive? (Can you force the car to drive in pure electric at that temp, traveling back and forth to work about 8km and it would be awesome if i could do the drive both ways on electric) but if it does just start in the middle of the drive that would be Terrible for the engine. (I have the prius c where e enging is the only form of heat so it allways has to be warned up) i want to upgrade to the plug in prius but its hard finding any info?
Thanks for the comment. So here in Colorado it gets pretty cold, all winter I noticed that I “start” the car in EV mode every day. If the temp is below 30 degrees the engine will start after I start driving. It will stay running for about 4-5 minutes. Overall I have used 1/10 of the tank of gas in the last 4 months. And I drive it every single day, about 15 miles. So not too bad. Now I can’t “force” it to not start the engine. It does what I wants lol. I put it in EV mode but it still starts, it starts and uses EV mode until the engine is warm. Then turns off. So no work load on the engine. It just idles while warming up and EV mode is active.
I hope that helps
@@grabagearcolorado We collected our 2024 Prime five weeks ago (after a 21 month wait !), and so far we are impressed with it. It's our third Prius but first plug-in. What appealed to us most with the new Prime is the EV only range. We are now retired so our daily travel is much lower than it was with the first two cars.
When I'm driving the car it returns an 80km EV range, that's 50 miles. My wife has more of a lead foot so she gets less on a charge, maybe 50km. The heat pump is a major draw so even a low temperature setting and a low fan speed makes the range drop far more quickly. And, depending on both fan speed and temperature settings, the engine will start even in full EV mode.
Our aim with this car was to reduce fuel consumption as much as possible. Even though our province is an oil producing region we pay among the highest fuel prices in NA. As of this morning a US gallon costs $7.26 (that's $1.919 per litre times 3.78 litres in a US gallon). So, reducing gas consumption is a priority for us. Our hydro rate is at .1325 Kwh. That means we can charge the car from empty for $1.72 CAD. Less than a third the cost for gas for 80km.
Keep in mind, it's still early spring here and daytime temperatures hover around 5 to 6 c (42~44 F). The range will increase as summer takes over. Also, our winters in this part of the country are milder than Colorado (it seldom drops below -6 or 7 c), so our winter range will still make using the EV mode sensible.