30kW and 4kW Xenon Lamps Get Tested on a DC Welder
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- A 30kW Xenon and a 4kW Xenon Short Arc lamp get tested using DC from a Welder
Big thanks to: / jgildert for supply us with a lovely 4kW Xenon lamp. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
I'm always amazed to see you do this kind of stuff on a carpet.
Explains all the holes and burn marks
It’s a good insulator
Carpet is a safety instrument. It collects and smothers the metal sparks
@@mastershake42019 is mayonnaise an instrument
@Stealth Droid is horseradish an instrument
The reason that 30 kw lamp most likely failed, is that it's supposed to be water cooled with deionized water. I used to work on 70mm IMAX 48 fps film projector that used almost the same lamp.
You're probably right, it looks like it has coolant ports on the ends of each electrode. With 30kW of power I'm not exactly surprised. I imagine the coolant goes through at least a portion of the electrodes inside to keep them from melting like it did here...
damn what a shame
He knows, he mentioned he should have WCd it but didn't think 4kw would fry it. You would want the water distilled to keep from having mineral build up.
I use to run little ol 1kw grow lights x several and used fresca sol water cooling fixtures, the things were amazing at pulling the heat out so plants wouldn't burn in a cramped space.
Neighbors: "Is that a Quasar in your backyard?"
The kids in the neighborhood are strictly ordered to run into the houses and to duck and cover immediately, whenever they hear Photonicinduction rummaging around in the yard/garden. He's got a deal with the power station. Whenever he starts to make a YT video he has to call few minutes before, so they can pull out a few control rods to accommodate the extra load on the generator shaft with extra steam to the turbine. Before that, the power frequency in the area always dropped too much in such cases. "Sir, we're down at 46 Hz!" - "Damn, this Photonicinduction must be in his attic again, making a YT-video! Is there is a bright blue flare at the horizon and a smell of ozone in that area?"
I love this channel, which I discovered by accident. It's simply amazing. Thanks for sharing all the great stuff.
love your comment :D
I found your comment stupid
He is actually using the normal amount of power. It’s all amplification!
@@qeelevators2960 Thats not how it works, you can't input 10 watts and get out 1000. Wait, lemme calculate that.
It's not amplification but a residential power lines can have up to 1000 amps, thats a lot.
I'm still amazed by how bright it was AFTER you shut it off!
Thermoluminescence
@@aravindmk4073 Incandescence
Much respect to you chaps!
***** i have some 200 watt LED's lying around, would you like one for a video there approx 23,000 lumens
*****
Two uploads in one day! Nice. That made my day.
As always, thanks for the demonstration, man.
***** I wonder how intense the xray's were that that thing produced? The plasma inside the bulb was cool!
FDGaming no worries, you can see the about tab to find the PO box address, if you want a mention on the video be sure to enclose note stating what you would like said, I'll see what I can do, if you want to see its limit, I'm sure we can find out, cheers mate.
***** I bet your neighbours *love* you >_>
No water cooling on the big lamp. It basically melted and vented. Lucky it didn't explode. The water cooling lines go to those two red plugs on each end.
He knows that. If you couldn’t tell already, safety is his middle name
NEWS FLASH: astronomors detected a 2nd sun in our solar system.
Virtualgod2009 lol
yeah, it was a 12Kw halide lamp setting fire to a shed in some bloke's back garden in Kent!!!
" astronomors" eh?
lmfao
R is it or is it an r or is it an r or is it an l?
our second sun that failed was Jupiter it was a loser
Ah! I love these lamps. I work at a cinema in Canada, swapped out a ton of them. We only use 3000w ones, they last 1500 hours. When we swap them we wear full protective gear. Face shield, goggles, thick leather gloves and jacket. When cool they dont have too much pressure but still wicked dangerous. When they have ran their life we put them in a large PVC pipe with a screw cap then drop the tube. Bulb pops inside (with quite the bang id like to add) then pour out the dust in the garbage. Wearing a respirator of course, can't imagine quartz dust would be very nice.
Just to add to this. We had a lamp fail about a year ago right after start up. Clearly had some air or something in it. Started it up, had good light output but quickly started to fall. We turned it off, let it cool and check the bulb and it was a beautiful blue color. The deposits left on the inside of the bulb looked like a painting of a galaxy with lots of Blues and yellow. Super cool to see!
@@Ghyus01 is light bulb changing at cinemas a freelance type of thing? Any certification required? I would be interested in learning more about possibly making it a side gig. My company rents out 4K xenon arc lamp advertising searchlights so i am very familiar working with the bulbs.
Yes they do emit a ton of infrared , ton of UVA , UVB , and also UVC , and very strong visible light . I would love to have 40 -100 W xenon for indoor use , maybe to buy one made for cars and with help of electrician install it at home . Everything but not LED scam .
I was in a car accident then I saw myself in the hospital bed looking down from above. Then there was this bright light, then everything else went black. Then Photon popped up in front of me, sprouting a pair of metal wings and said, "You've been popped son!"
😂😂😂
I replaced the 20W energy saver in my room with a 175W photography energy saver, was hilarious when the cleaner turned it on, and saw the sun (~650W incandescent light output)
I,m a dutch electrician , i once had to fix a Transformer for a 600 watt master son-t lightbulb , you know the once they use to grow weed , and my friends where standing there talking the armature whit lamp lies on table , i was replacing a new Transformer and tested it , i switched the power on and i hear screaming outside , my friends where blinded by the flash of the lamp , and there i know it worked.
@@Smellslikenarcspirit Actually son-t lamps are not really bright when you light them up. They need to get hot...
@@Janigut yes i know but the starting flash is bright , then they begin a slow warm up .
Weird sense of math there mate.
I used to use these bulbs as a projectionist at a cinema. They are still widely used today. The colour changes over time to a more yellow light and then they need changing. The housing they live in has a big curved mirror to collect and focus all the light and point it through the hole at the 35mm film or DLP Digital chip these days. You have to have serious fans bringing cold air in and extracting the heat out of the compartment and some serious coolin for the DLP chip as they can go critical without it. Arc eye guaranteed if you look at these without the right eye protection ;-) Brought back some memories.
Those lamps scare me tbh, the pressure inside is silly, basically a quartz bomb!
FrontSideBus They are pretty worrying, the gas is put in the lamp while it is frozen, then it is sealed and the pressure increases as the gas comes up to room temperature, the pressure in those when hot is unimaginable!
***** How many bar is it at when at room temperature?
Peter Carlson Typically 8 bar when at room temperature and ~60-80 bar when hot.
Maanuueel42 \m/(^_^)\m/ 80 bar?! That's like 1200ish psi. That is insane. If that thing blew it would be like a hand grenade.
Peter Carlson That's why there usually is a protective shrouding around those things. Aaand it still is not a very good idea to be very close to such a lamp at full power, although they do not explode often.
If one was not properly mounted and fell on the ground while in operation however... I'd say it could act like a (quite weak)frag grenade, throwing bits of hot quartz around at high speed.
You make me nostalgic with this video, makes me to remember when I worked as cinema operator, but thinking better xenon lamps have certain similarities with thyristors since them need to be triggered to start (off course regarding that both devices had different operate mechanisms)...
Photon has an air raid siren on his shelf
Surprised he hasn’t overclocked it yet!
11:20 When he's talking over the loud speaker while lighting up half the neighborhood... That's entertainment at its finest.
This one still kicks out as much light as a 50w bulb when it gets turned off.. hahaha
Yes about 50w cfl
Always fun to watch your videos of destruction! I think the only thing brighter would be an atomic detonation.
Or the third coming of Jesus.
What about putting 5kw on a 30 kw xe lamp?
That light was Brighter than my future and possibly a Nuke Flash.
Not brighter than a nuke flash, those are so bright that I the light alone can set stuff on fire.
Oh i needed this! Full power xenon.. Oh god.. You legend, thanks for sticking with your videos. Means a lot seeing what you've gone through. You've never failed to deliver. You beauty.
I worked as a projectionist for many years and handled big xenons a fair bit. Loads of fun. The projector lamphouses were air cooled and had safety switches so the lamps wouldn't operate with the doors open. We taped the switches closed and ran them wearing safety gear, highly dangerous and not recommended but it was the best way to align the mirrors properly. They give such a clean bright white light. Had one explode once whilst running a film, that got my attention!
I was also nearly killed once when the main lead broke free of its securing clip and shorted out on the dowser doors, which were opened by an aluminium handle I had my hand on. A thin plastic (cosmetic) coating was all that separated me from 110 amps. There was an almighty bang and I leapt away just in time. The lamphouse was destroyed, needless to say.
Great vids, keep up the good work!
You would have been fine. They run at 24-37v dc so not a high enough voltage to feel.
@@xanderyesilirmak956 It's amps that kill not volts
@@symmetrygames8142 it takes about 30mA through the heart before defibrillation occurs.
Current is dictated by the resistance the and voltage of the circuit. In the case of the body, the resistance is too high at 37V for 30mA to run through your heart. 37V cant kill you.
I wonder whom here would be willing to actually grab the wires of a supply that can deliver 110A even if it is at low voltage?
Resistance of a human body varies dont forget, if theyre sweaty for instance. Some people naturally have a lower internal resistance, some higher. Some people may have a heart condition or pacemaker.
I would go round telling people that its not dangerous.
@@steveb60879 you mean a car battery which can deliver 500 or more? Yeah me, it does nothing.
Buddy whenever I see one of your videos suggested to me I get a little bit excited that you have finally gotten to a place where you can finally be happy and you're popping things again. Then I notice I have watched that video a few time already.
Wherever you're at man I just hope you're doing better than your last upload.
Ohh, Should Have Water Cooled That Lamp, Photon's FIRST Mistake, LoL;DD
***** It's nice to see the final conclusion to the 30kW lamp after almost 2 years! It was quite the spectacle. You should get another bulb and properly water cool it (perhaps with that massive heat exchanger you got with the laser), then put one of those parabolic reflectors behind it to make a death ray! Love the vids man, keep them coming!
SchrodingersCat_ I'd pay to see that to be honest.
Starnsworth me too!
Starnsworth It might be the last thing you see!
He should put 10 of these in a paralel...
Don't give him ideas 🤣
is the giant lamp meant to be liquid cooled? i see tap plugs, or is that just the electrical connection
It is meant to be water cooled. I saw a video on cinema projectors which use the same type of lamp, and they are water cooled.
A cold Xenon lamp doesn't really do much when you break it, despite the internal pressure. When we disposed of old Xenon lamps we'd just wrap them in the cloth wrap that they came in, put them in the bottom of a dustbin, and then break them with a broom handle. We never got more than a slight 'pop', but then there were only 1.6kW lamps :)
Never had one go bang when it was hot, but our projector service engineer has told us many stories about lamp housings being turned roughly spherical by the force of the explosion. The electrodes sometimes get fired out through the front of the lamp housing as well. Fun times. Digital projectors these days are quite boring by comparison :D
Do be aware though that you can give yourselves accidental sun burn if you play around with arc/discharge lamps. Lots of UV come out of these lamps. Ask me how I know....
ihavenoideahere they are highly dangerous and under extreme pressure when cold and even more pressure when hot.
***** They aren't that dangerous if you take care handling them. The most dangerous thing about them is the intense heat (as hot as the surface of the sun, apparently), as you found out when your lamp melted. In my job I use all sorts of high powered lamps and the single biggest danger comes from accidentally touching the glass/quartz with your bare hands. The natural oils on your skin will cause hotspots which in turn often make lamps explode, or at least melt a hole in their envelopes. Thats why a lot of lamps, discharge in particular, come with alcohol wipes to clean them prior to use.
Found this on Ushios website :
XENON ARC LAMP DISPOSALXenon arc lamps must be disposed of in a careful and proper manner in order to prevent injury.
1. Wear a protective mask, leather gloves and protective clothing when handling a spent lamp.
2. Place the used lamp in its original protective case and original cardboard packaging (box) that was provided when the lamp was new.
3. Firmly attach tape around the original cardboard box to seal the lamp securely.
4. From approximately three (3) feet in height, drop the cardboard box, with the lamp and protective case inside, onto a hard floor to break the lamp.
We could never break the lamps using this method as the quartz envelope is so strong. Hence why we broke them in a bin with a broom handle.
Glad it slowly released the Xenon rather than causing explosive decompression.
10:21 I still say "i popped it!" when i let the smoke out of something i'm working on lol
Too bad you popped the big one.
Next time,get a old parabol dish made of aluminum,sand off the paint and polish the living f*** out of it. Mount the 30 kw lamp in the focus and let her rip. A Carbon arc lamp running 40 volts DC 500 Amps should also be spectacular bright..
Basically a WWII searchlight.
If someone told me a few decades ago I would be watching a video of someone turning on 2 light bulbs lol! Well fun channel keep up the good work 😊!
Enlightening....
2jeffs1 HA lol
2jeffs1 With that joke, you are the light in the night
I think you guys are taking these jokes a bit too lightly
Lighten up a bit people. He's got a spark about him. I wouldn't be dark on such a potential shining star - he reminds me of my own son.
Gareth Simes no need to be such a lamp talking about your own sun, Im sure he will radiate stuff himself with his power!
Just thought I'd come along and say Hi!
Cheers Andy for giving me the shout and glad to see that pure white goodness! ;)
Next time I'll pop round for a brew, we can boil it under the lamp!
Fuck me I'm famous!
Any other awesome stuff you can send to Andy for him to Nuke?
Fuck ! there is some heat generated in that lamp. amazing !! the whole anode is glowing. You can hear the 30 kW bulb hiss when it degasses. Another excellent video.
RODALCO2007 cheers mate!
+RODALCO2007 I think these are normally run with liquid cooling for a reason!
you might add a magnet to keep the arc flat. theater projectors use a magnet to help stabilize the arc. also seal failure happens to the end of the bulbs
I work in the film industry as a spark. We had a 4k Xenon out recently and bloody hell! Had to be careful where we pointed it, anything within 2m including a white painted wall would start smoking strait away. Biggest I play with are the 18kw HMI's. Would love to get you one of those lamps but they cost thousands.
That 30KW lamp was probably visible from low Earth orbit. Those blokes on the ISS probably saw it and said, "What the fuck is that bloody bright pinprick of light down there in the UK?!?"
Do you have neighbors?
I bet he does and I'm sure they were upset xD
My mobile phone just donated itself to you - It told me it wanted to see you as I was atop a tree stump at 8am trying to get a signal for a profitable job thingy. I'm sure it will work just like high power high pressure bulb.. nice jolt of HV and then plenty current to keep it lit/make it on fire.
huskyemma PC is feeling left out... all 6ghz of it with 4gb of ram.. does not perform as expected... must not have enough electricity or something.
huskyemma I remember my old P100 was miles faster than this hunk of shit. This CPU is rated 60 times faster so must need 60x the electric to run right. I only got 240v... its probably not the computers fault. 12KV?? to hope to draw 6KW? something in that range should be sufficient.
huskyemma The satnav 'wants' to go too.. will be lonely on its own anyway.. they work as a team to piss you off. I'm sure you'll straighten them out.
are those red screws for a cooling system?
Yes, it must be watercooled, so that's why it failed. Smaller 4 kW bulb needs an active air cooling and the manufacturer usually states in thr datasheet what airspeed you need around the whole bulb. If you continue running these without any cooling the cathode may detach and touch the glass. After that - explosion with a very high probability.
Those lamps are used in concert (follow spots/pin spots). 4kW would output above 20,000 lm follow spot beam for a large venue to stage.
Yeah, the 30 kW lamp has been popped due to overheating. I guess the water inlets are there for a reason....
Anyway, great video. I wonder whether you'd be able to actually run a 30 kW lamp at full power (I'm guessing not, unless you REALLY do have your own substation, but one can never know) ;)
Damn it you popped the bulb I wanted to see at full power! Oh well have fun! Glad you are making videos again.
Regards, From the other side of the pond.
- Calvin
Who lowered the display brightness before watching this?
Did you clean the glass with alcohol before starting this project? Just asking.
That hurt my eyes through my screen!
Contrary to what you think,using welders to power xenon lamps isn't new. The xenon lamps on the large IMAX projectors are in fact powered by modified DC welders.
Basically a small star in a jar!
Im not sure why, but his voice is perfect. I want a drunk British person to narrate my life
Uh, nice lamps the ushio, I used on the Sony digital cinema projectors.
Felt that like I was in this Long Dark Tunnel With a very very bright light at the end.
So brilliant it was more brilliant than the Sun.
Mark C
You're Proper Mad! Thanks for sharing!
I nearly spit out or spill my coffee every time I hear "crank it up stupid", it never gets old.
Aww yiss I knew it would be a quick upload.
6:09 OMG, looks so beautiful much like a HPS lamp :)
Holy hell... That's bright!
"I am, ehh, a bit blinded at the moment" :)
Wooooo Bolton!
Dunno why I'm cheering...
You popped it!
Jordan O'C i didnt know that you watch photonic!
The sun came out last night. It was in my neighbors backyard. Lol
Does anyone else want to see a massive Tesla Coil run off his big boy powersuply?
+Yextus Not really, why would anybody want to destroy Earth.
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On second thought .... hell yeaaah :D .
Oh boy yes!!!
Oh jeez, that IS bright!
How did you ignite them? Does the arcwelder have an integrated ignition circuit for starting the welding arc?
***** external igniter 40kv
***** and how do you prevent it from being destroyed by the high current dc? first ignite, then connect hc-dc?
***** the high voltage is superimposed into the low voltage high current dc (they run together) additional edit.. The high voltage is disconnected once the main current is flowing.
***** thanks!
***** So basically the same type of circuit used in a projector for striking the arc.
Cor that thing's bright, almost had to go get my own welding glass to stare at it... :P
Aww, you popped the big one, for shame, you need to pop some fluorescent tubes and CFLs and things to make up for the loss... :P
I wonder what it would look like in broad daylight.
Goldfish_Vender It would look like a very bright arc lamp in daylight...
***** literally dying at your comment. 😂
Carlos Ruiz Probably not *literally*, as you'd be dead, and dead people don't type.
:P
***** You do realise that now someone will be falling over themselves to argue that "it was in NARROW daylight" - not for any particular or logical reason, but just because the internet can't BEAR not to be seen as "being right". >_
Don't forget the water cooling for the 30kw version
Your electricity bill must be over 9000
Umer Raja I bet his court costs are more... WAY more.
Virtualgod2009 Yeah...no. You're delusional.
Virtualgod2009 You, my friend, seem to be living in a daydream.
All in the name of science, props to everything he does
Dante Cracchiola Where's the "science" in picking arbitrary electrical objects and blowing them up? He doesn't even explain the how or why properly, he is just like a little boy setting fire to things and giggling. I don't mean that I *care* that he doesn't explain the science - it's his channel, but watching a microwave explode doesn't teach you anything, except that - under the right circumstances - a microwave could explode; there's NO science to that, he seems to like providing entertainment for his channel, NOT scientific AT ALL.
The unfortunate thing about the water cooled lamp is that the electrodes are thinner to allow the water to cool very close to the source of heat. The 4k just had brute mass to deal with the heat. So I'm not surprised that the 30k failed on just 4k of power.
You fried the 30kW lamp!?!?! Rip in peace ;_;
Yes he didn't used the watercooling connections.
How many of your neighbors report seeing things they can't explain?
Damn, you should have build a laser with the big xenon and then burn everything that refuses to pop with it!
But otherwise, you probably end in jail pretty quick then.
i used to work as a projectionist, when those things explode it was loud and dangerous. wouldnt go near that bulb without some ppe. they should only be used in an enclosed box of some kind. i was hoping it was gonna explode or some shit with it "maxed" out. never seen it explode in the open like they had it running
Finally I saw the 30 kW xenon lamp working (not at full power, but anyway), unfortunately it has blown up :(
But still great video, thumbs up :D
Alex
I get through £6 electric a week according to my smart meter, your lamp must do that in a few minutes. 😳
I bet it topped up the sun tan nice though. 👍🏻👍🏼👍🏽👍🏾👍🏿
What's the application for this 30KW behemoth?
It's for lighting things up.
PAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!! -_-
old analog cinemas and big lamps to Spot aircraft used in ww2
old analog cinemas and big lamps to Spot aircraft used in ww2
I know for a fact that old IMAX theatres used these exact 30KW lamps. I think they may have been used for searchlights too. Niagara Falls uses these lamps, but I am unsure if they are this large.
Low pressure Xenon lamp now.. Did not notice the light change when it started out gassing.
There are some monster bulbs I'd love to see him pop but I don't even know how one would even go about shipping them. lol
Time machine is really exist.. as you learn in conductivity among water, light, temperature, oxigen, and gravity
No new vids from Mr. Photonic for a good time now.. Has he zapped himself to kingdom come?
What's the clicking sound when you shut it off ? Relays inside the igniter to short out the caps ?
The capacitors discharging
Changed many of them in the cinemas.. allways treated them with respect and sweated like heel when they were out of its case... Leather gloves, full aprons and full face shields... never had one go. always like the smokey or brown evelopes. safe to handle.... We could kill a 5KW in about 2 mins if the fans failed. keep it guys
I can't help wondering how many times the neighbors have called the police because of the strange lights and sounds emanating from your property.
I’ve heard of Xenon lights used in hospitals to sterilize operating rooms.
Aww - you need another one of the 30kW lamps to see if you can get aircraft landing on your garden!!
Why does the welder click after is has run? Is it discharging the capacitors?
Needed a cooling fan
How bright could light a search light with this 30kw lamp? 🤔 That would be nice
But if this lamp explodes.... Also very dangerous, this type of lamp.. But yes, all of us want to see it))
Rusty: "(Shy) (Rusty Wears His Summer Outfit And He's With His 32 Siblings And They're All Wearing Their Summer Outfits And Rusty Whines In Fear)! 🧡🤍!"
His 32 Siblings: "(They All Wear Their Summer Outfits And They All Whine In Fear)! ❤🧡💛💚💙💜💖🖤🤍!"
Why not use the 1950s Mazda 5kW bulb and crank it up to 12 kW. Those old filaments can handle massive overload very easily. Anything built in the '50s that was designed to work was also designed to overwork!
Why did it not change colour as the temp increased? I thought as it got warmer the colour changes as per the kelvin scale for light temp?
Ahhh, the video we've all been waiting for :)
Amazing as usual!
e: Ah sadly it popped before full brightness :/
At certain point you don't see electricity, but only electrons and photons flying around.
I'm liking the SOX lamp on your mantelpiece!
Imagine the view from space! lol
Hey photonicinduction, you should make a device for exploding melons, much like your coconut video. That would be awesome :)
2 of the cool items i didnt wanna see popped
Then again am happy we got to see them in action
Hi, cool video.
Do you have some informations of the ignitor.
Many thanks
Shocking that we have to watch old videos in this day and age. That said, it was electrifying revisiting static content.
And now there's more new photonvids! 👍
Those xenon lamps gave off a pure noble white light while sacrificing themselves for entertainment lol how noble of them
I have seen smaller versions of Xenon lamps used as strobes for anti collision lights on aircraft . What would one like that be used for?
been watching a few of your videos, really neat!!!! I have a question.... about that billion candle light bulb.... what was it for, and in its optimum setting, how long does one of those last? Do these last longer if they are just left on, of is there a start up stress that shortens the life of them?... sorry for the many questions, just interested. great job on the videos!
the big 15K ones are often used in Imax projectors, though I'm sure they're also in spotlights and other stuff. There's not really much stress on startup as long as you're not strobing it. often its harder on the supply than the bulb depending on construction...but they are best run according to spec continuously. if they are run too far over or under current, then they electrodes will be ruined. which is what happened to the big 15K+ one he lit under power. it sputtered due the arc not being stable-the cathode under-heats and sputters from low electron emission, and the anode burned up from lack of cooling is what it looks like. they're also prone to explosion if mishandled as he warns a few times, from any number of reasons. running one in the open like that isn't recommended. I've seen these burst, and its quite violent... often sending people to the hospital to have the hot quartz glass removed. This one also sprung a minor leak evidently too, but you can see after he runs it the glass is cloudy from sputtering the electrodes.