The structure and way of explaining is just perfect here! Also not rushing but being in point is really great! Thank you for your guides, my absolute favorites out of all I've seen :)
Damn, I'm a noob. Thanks for the guide. It open my eyes. I thought disc priest was weak healer. It turns out that it has different play style than any other healer. Liked and Subscribed.
Dis priests are not bad but they aren't the best healer right now.Many others healers like resto druids and hpala are much more better.They have more defensive CDS(specially the resto druids)
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Every guide i see tells me attonement should be my primary source of healing, but attontment doesnt heal enough at all to outheal any dps... and thats even if they dont bother interrupting.
I think you should mention the castigation-contrition build, in which you run castigation and contrition with the searing light pvp talent. Basically what you aim for is to rotate penance deffensively, then cast 3 smites offensively so that your penance is off CD again. This build is also very very strong in arena, I'd say it's the most mana-efficient way to keep your teammates alive if you just need to mantain their health and you are not in danger, while also being offensive and absorbing enemy damage from smite. Basically, with that build, the more you can do the penance-smite-smite-smite-penance rotation, the higher the probability that you'll end up winning. This is specially good in 2s. Also, I'm not a fan of the weal and woe trait to be honest. I think you are better off just running offensive traits such as tidal surge or battlefield focus if you want to be offensive, and the shield buff is not powerful enough, as most of the time you'll find yourself shielding only to renew atonement. The damage absorption from shield is really low IMO, even when buffed with weal and woe, unless you use rapture of course.
This is a great piece of advice - a lot of higher rated discs I see run searing light / castigation. It’s a lot more mana efficient than radiance etc but in some matchups, I feel like you have to play masochism / strength of soul (double melee) Out of interest, with the smite build do you run sins of the many for added dps? Or contrition to heal as you use penance defensively rather than offensively?
Of course the build depends on the comp you are playing and the comp you are facing. Sometimes it is better to run schism, sometimes it is better to run twist of fate and masochism... The castigation-contrition build can be good for example if you are playing RMP (the insane control lets you smite a lot) and facing something that does not have lots of control. With that build, you aim for deffensive penances most of the time, so that's when contrition comes into play. The thing with sins of the many is that you end up healing more via atonement by increasing your dmg with sins of the many and having purge the wicked up as much as you can, unless you run castigation for the extra penance bolt AND you can penance a lot. In such a case, you end up healing more with contrition, and the improved penance results in a nice burst healing, and that is something disc priests lack. So I'd say you run contrition only if you also run castigation and searing light and you are sure that you can smite a lot to reduce penance CD. Otherwise, it's better to go for sins of the many.
Honestly it lookst like most top priests I've watched on stream run Castigation + Contrition (+ Mindbender) regardless of whether theyre taking Searing Light. It honestly just feels necessary to be able to heal in this game atm. For 3s anyways. In 2s i can see you running a more aggressive build and relying on attonement healing more, OR with a strong cc comp like RMP in 3s where youre not taking as much dmg.
yea i play castigation contrition also that 4th penance tick is so needed when healing the burst thats around atm. i wish they would tone down damage.. also are u guys actually using trinity much? i tend to use barrier angel/darkangel with radiance in 3v3 almost every game. the 2 min CD 70% damage reduction is just too juicy :S i cant seem to keep anyone alive with attonement even without CD's up people get rekt by warriors ench shamans meleehunters. so much damage :S
This guides should show us WHAT TO DO when DPS SIT on us...... I just can't heal the damage of arms warrior/rogue/survival... spent all CD progressively and when they all gone i just die spamming shadowmend, even if juke all kicks. If i go for damage/atomen as healing source this isn't enought to survive.
Same problem here bro to be honest disc justs sucks to play there is no fun playing it like it was back in the day, holy can't do much in arenas either cause run out of mana very fast.
Ask your teammates to peel? If you're in 2v2 you should be playing with another person who should be able to provide some ability for you to escape and top off again. I'm only 1850 in 2v2 and I haven't played 3's (I just do 2s to cap conq) so I'm not exactly the best person to be asking but from my experience a lot of games in 2v2 revolve around it being a dps race to see which healer dies first. I play with a demon hunter, and any time I'm against an arms warrior in particular I call him back to defensively darkness an incoming bladestorm before he swaps back to the enemy healer. It's important to note that while bladestorming, the warrior cannot interrupt your spellcasting, so take the time to aggressively use Shadow Mend on yourself. Against Assassination Rogue, watch your bleed debuffs and be prepared to use your cds. If you can land a Rapture'd PWS or drop a PWB on yourself before you take the Kidney that's going to lead into Vendetta, you reduce the danger of that kill window significantly and can typically stabilize their damage. If you're dying outside of their cooldowns, you arent being proactive enough with sustaining atonement on yourself and applying Purge the Wicked and using defensive penance on yourself. The good thing about Disc is the fact that we have two spell schools to heal from, so if one of them gets kicked, you can use the other school to protect yourself. Shield into Penance into Radiance is just as strong, if not stronger, than Shadow Mend spam, and if they're using their stuns to prevent you from casting in addition to their kick then they're weakening their own kill window. I feel like I very rarely see Survival, enough so that I don't even know what to tell you to do to survive it. Google their cds and watch for them I guess? Sorry I can't offer more details here.
Andre Brandenburg In those situations, its more of your teammates’ responsibility to peel you off aswell as you using your cooldowns proactively. You can’t just kite like a druid or insta full yourself like shamans or paladins. You need breathing room to deal damage and get topped off. For that, you need your teammates
Sounds like your teammates need to help you out. You may be expected to kite 1 enemy around but if you're being hit by more than 1 person for more than a few seconds then your team should be peeling for you.
PVP specct barrier and spec knock back. on opener: Barrier, Trinket kidney... if they stick on u keep setting dots and pet. if u want/need a heal knock back... when barrier fades use PS... ure pretty much save for about 12 secs... rouge schould be dead then. if not your dps fails... if they not stick on u cuz u use trinket after kidney sit on blind and PS youre dd to dps rouge
I'm going to guess the azerite trait that increases shadow mend per tick of dot. Let it stack a few dots on a couple targets and it makes shadow mend huge.
xokatherina death, archangel and searing light, castigation + contrition if you want strong overtime and overall healing, twist of fate if you wanna top people faster. Luminous barrier, purge the wicket, shining force if its a map where u can knock people, maso if ur gna get trained otherwise feathers so u can run with fc’s or give movement speed boosts to others. Ur rotation is use radiance into death, once u’ve done that, ur atonement’s will be have a good duration you spam dmg, when they are about to run out u pop archangel to keep spamming dmg, you use penance defensively however to heal alot with the contrition talent, death also does alot of healing due to so many atonement’s being up. Penance defensively into solace, then you spam smites till you can def penance again. Death on cd for the healing and atonement duration increase.
The structure and way of explaining is just perfect here! Also not rushing but being in point is really great! Thank you for your guides, my absolute favorites out of all I've seen :)
I agree. He did a wonderful job at explaining everything. :D
I love these guides. Clear explanations of the basics.
Damn, I'm a noob. Thanks for the guide. It open my eyes. I thought disc priest was weak healer. It turns out that it has different play style than any other healer.
Liked and Subscribed.
Dis priests are not bad but they aren't the best healer right now.Many others healers like resto druids and hpala are much more better.They have more defensive CDS(specially the resto druids)
Oh I can get used to watching this channel. Love the edits and the effort put in. Subbed so hard my mouse click almost reached its 1KK life span limit.
Every guide i see tells me attonement should be my primary source of healing, but attontment doesnt heal enough at all to outheal any dps... and thats even if they dont bother interrupting.
Maybe its sustained heal. Out healing dps could be those long cooldown ones
Fantastic job
Awesome resource. Thanks for the video.
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omg Thank you!
I think you should mention the castigation-contrition build, in which you run castigation and contrition with the searing light pvp talent. Basically what you aim for is to rotate penance deffensively, then cast 3 smites offensively so that your penance is off CD again. This build is also very very strong in arena, I'd say it's the most mana-efficient way to keep your teammates alive if you just need to mantain their health and you are not in danger, while also being offensive and absorbing enemy damage from smite. Basically, with that build, the more you can do the penance-smite-smite-smite-penance rotation, the higher the probability that you'll end up winning. This is specially good in 2s. Also, I'm not a fan of the weal and woe trait to be honest. I think you are better off just running offensive traits such as tidal surge or battlefield focus if you want to be offensive, and the shield buff is not powerful enough, as most of the time you'll find yourself shielding only to renew atonement. The damage absorption from shield is really low IMO, even when buffed with weal and woe, unless you use rapture of course.
This is a great piece of advice - a lot of higher rated discs I see run searing light / castigation.
It’s a lot more mana efficient than radiance etc but in some matchups, I feel like you have to play masochism / strength of soul (double melee)
Out of interest, with the smite build do you run sins of the many for added dps? Or contrition to heal as you use penance defensively rather than offensively?
Of course the build depends on the comp you are playing and the comp you are facing. Sometimes it is better to run schism, sometimes it is better to run twist of fate and masochism... The castigation-contrition build can be good for example if you are playing RMP (the insane control lets you smite a lot) and facing something that does not have lots of control.
With that build, you aim for deffensive penances most of the time, so that's when contrition comes into play. The thing with sins of the many is that you end up healing more via atonement by increasing your dmg with sins of the many and having purge the wicked up as much as you can, unless you run castigation for the extra penance bolt AND you can penance a lot. In such a case, you end up healing more with contrition, and the improved penance results in a nice burst healing, and that is something disc priests lack. So I'd say you run contrition only if you also run castigation and searing light and you are sure that you can smite a lot to reduce penance CD. Otherwise, it's better to go for sins of the many.
Honestly it lookst like most top priests I've watched on stream run Castigation + Contrition (+ Mindbender) regardless of whether theyre taking Searing Light. It honestly just feels necessary to be able to heal in this game atm. For 3s anyways. In 2s i can see you running a more aggressive build and relying on attonement healing more, OR with a strong cc comp like RMP in 3s where youre not taking as much dmg.
yea i play castigation contrition also that 4th penance tick is so needed when healing the burst thats around atm. i wish they would tone down damage.. also are u guys actually using trinity much? i tend to use barrier angel/darkangel with radiance in 3v3 almost every game. the 2 min CD 70% damage reduction is just too juicy :S i cant seem to keep anyone alive with attonement even without CD's up people get rekt by warriors ench shamans meleehunters. so much damage :S
awesome guide
+SKILL
Wouldn't it be better for the 2vs2 exemple with priest to dispel his icy veins instead of trading ps ?
nice video
This guides should show us WHAT TO DO when DPS SIT on us...... I just can't heal the damage of arms warrior/rogue/survival... spent all CD progressively and when they all gone i just die spamming shadowmend, even if juke all kicks. If i go for damage/atomen as healing source this isn't enought to survive.
Same problem here bro to be honest disc justs sucks to play there is no fun playing it like it was back in the day, holy can't do much in arenas either cause run out of mana very fast.
Ask your teammates to peel? If you're in 2v2 you should be playing with another person who should be able to provide some ability for you to escape and top off again. I'm only 1850 in 2v2 and I haven't played 3's (I just do 2s to cap conq) so I'm not exactly the best person to be asking but from my experience a lot of games in 2v2 revolve around it being a dps race to see which healer dies first. I play with a demon hunter, and any time I'm against an arms warrior in particular I call him back to defensively darkness an incoming bladestorm before he swaps back to the enemy healer. It's important to note that while bladestorming, the warrior cannot interrupt your spellcasting, so take the time to aggressively use Shadow Mend on yourself.
Against Assassination Rogue, watch your bleed debuffs and be prepared to use your cds. If you can land a Rapture'd PWS or drop a PWB on yourself before you take the Kidney that's going to lead into Vendetta, you reduce the danger of that kill window significantly and can typically stabilize their damage. If you're dying outside of their cooldowns, you arent being proactive enough with sustaining atonement on yourself and applying Purge the Wicked and using defensive penance on yourself. The good thing about Disc is the fact that we have two spell schools to heal from, so if one of them gets kicked, you can use the other school to protect yourself. Shield into Penance into Radiance is just as strong, if not stronger, than Shadow Mend spam, and if they're using their stuns to prevent you from casting in addition to their kick then they're weakening their own kill window.
I feel like I very rarely see Survival, enough so that I don't even know what to tell you to do to survive it. Google their cds and watch for them I guess? Sorry I can't offer more details here.
@@paradoxdriver4094 ty, helped alot
Andre Brandenburg In those situations, its more of your teammates’ responsibility to peel you off aswell as you using your cooldowns proactively. You can’t just kite like a druid or insta full yourself like shamans or paladins. You need breathing room to deal damage and get topped off. For that, you need your teammates
Sounds like your teammates need to help you out. You may be expected to kite 1 enemy around but if you're being hit by more than 1 person for more than a few seconds then your team should be peeling for you.
I know it's a lot of work but can we get a round of updates for 8.1?
Hi. I ve difficulty when i got focused in 2v2 because I spam heal instead of dmg. What to do ?
Make the icon and text bigger its TINY
What is this for a addon the uniftrames?
Death Throes is shadow talent
Do resto shaman next!
What is the best way to survive assassination rogue/ fury warrior as disc? :)
PVP specct barrier and spec knock back. on opener: Barrier, Trinket kidney... if they stick on u keep setting dots and pet. if u want/need a heal knock back... when barrier fades use PS... ure pretty much save for about 12 secs... rouge schould be dead then. if not your dps fails... if they not stick on u cuz u use trinket after kidney sit on blind and PS youre dd to dps rouge
i think he means in 3v3, he just used all his def spells in 12 secs like you said and now he's dead next kidney. rip.
@@TerroBaer Rogue*, not "Rouge"
Christopher Baier why would you both trinket and barrier in opener? That’s retarded
Affect*
Did stat priority change from Haste > Vert> Mastery > Crit?
didnt changed
11:30 why is your shadow mend healing for 25k??? Mine heals for 15k at 370 ilvl , and here i am wondering why do i struggle so much. Wtf???
I'm going to guess the azerite trait that increases shadow mend per tick of dot. Let it stack a few dots on a couple targets and it makes shadow mend huge.
So we can run with the shadow trait and it will work?
Denny McIntyre - yeah it will.
what is de addons???
Why would you mention the Azerite Power: Death Throes in a Disc-Guide??
It is not that simple when arena gates open and everyone go directly to me. I can fear them but they will quickly came back and do the same thing. RIP
maybe a short skit on premonition, people still dont know how to use this. #OGswd
Emm bro, I think that Death Throes aserite trait is only for shadow, you mixed up something :)
Ww monk pls
UI addon at 6:00?
What do you mean by ui addon? If you’re talking about the actionbars its just default blizzard ui
i mean the player and target healthbars
13:20??? how did you just blink lol
void elf racial
What’s the best disc build for rbgs?
Take shining force if proper map, luminous barrier, archangel, twist of fate
xokatherina death, archangel and searing light, castigation + contrition if you want strong overtime and overall healing, twist of fate if you wanna top people faster. Luminous barrier, purge the wicket, shining force if its a map where u can knock people, maso if ur gna get trained otherwise feathers so u can run with fc’s or give movement speed boosts to others.
Ur rotation is use radiance into death, once u’ve done that, ur atonement’s will be have a good duration you spam dmg, when they are about to run out u pop archangel to keep spamming dmg, you use penance defensively however to heal alot with the contrition talent, death also does alot of healing due to so many atonement’s being up. Penance defensively into solace, then you spam smites till you can def penance again. Death on cd for the healing and atonement duration increase.
Good video but the healing build is sooooo wrong . Hydra did the best healing build. Fyi all the rest good
Exactly was thinking the same thing