Key Takeaways: Lessons Learned from Sam Bankman-Fried's Sentencing

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  • In this live video, I discuss Sam Bankman-Fried's twenty-five-year sentence.
    Justin Paperny

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  • @Jack209
    @Jack209 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    The sentencing hearing was disastrous for SBF. He insulted the intelligence of everyone in that room. I think SBF should count his blessings that Judge Kaplan, despite being a tough judge, gave some consideration to SBF’s neurodivergence and lack of a capacity to feel empathy.
    I think SBF is the first white collar defendant I’ve seen that I could see reoffending. He thinks the only thing that went wrong was his luck. He doesn’t believe he committed an offense.

    • @richardpearce4988
      @richardpearce4988 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I was following the live feed - I think the first comments from Judge Kaplan were confirming that he (SBF) had also committed witness tampering and perjury. If that is the judge's prologue, you know it's not going to end well for the defendent and I agree it actually could have been longer (whatever your opinion on what the sentence should be).

    • @Jack209
      @Jack209 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@richardpearce4988 Kaplan handled this very well. SBF really dug his own grave. If SBF took responsibility he would have gotten 10-15 years. If he plea bargained as soon as FTX collapsed probably 8-10 years.

    • @richardpearce4988
      @richardpearce4988 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Jack209 I agree - and with that plea bargining, probably actually out in 5-6 (may have even got RDAP with his use of amphetamine). But with no remorse shown, and no responsiblity taken, was always going to be a signifiicant sentence. I think Kaplan was tough but not vindictive.

    • @renardfranse
      @renardfranse หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      right? kinda like Madoff!@@richardpearce4988

    • @thisisanaussiegal3590
      @thisisanaussiegal3590 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Fyre Festival guy was horrific in his reoffending.

  • @kenamaro3942
    @kenamaro3942 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Madoff got 150 years ( life ).
    Still treating SBF like a precious little toddler....

  • @RequenAir
    @RequenAir หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you so much for your guidance and information that you provide us. Informing us to educate us but specifically me. Your organization is a great, teaching us how the court system works. I wish I can afford your services. Just wanted to say thank you. For giving us a positive outlook. God bless 😊

  • @adrianjanssens7116
    @adrianjanssens7116 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The judge's reference to SBF being "remorseless" must have contributed to the 25 year sentence.

  • @lewisdemoss4639
    @lewisdemoss4639 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thanks for your Information. SBF should have been tried on even more charges. The political donations with other people’s money. Also pretending to want to make the world better. A disgusting human in my opinion

  • @Michael-iw3ek
    @Michael-iw3ek หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    His sheeit-eating grin as he was leaving the courthouse shows it all.

    • @renardfranse
      @renardfranse หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      right? whats up with that?

    • @newhorizon4066
      @newhorizon4066 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was for his mama's boy persona.

  • @richardpearce4988
    @richardpearce4988 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Dear Justin, I am not in the American justice system but have watched many of your videos and learned a lot of very helpful lessons on personal responsibilty. It has been an education. However I do think SBF's sentence is not part of an either or. That prison guard who committed an horrific offense should be severely punished. Poverty and other social problems do exist in great measure in the US. Those do not mean, in my opinion, that there is not also value for American society and societies who watch you (which is most of them, including mine) in a long sentence for SBF. There is very little to suggest he wouldn't do something similar again, that he and his family do not think he is still a genius and should be given back his company, and that other dodgy elements of crypto are hoping for small consquences for those prosecuted for similar offenses.

    • @gyroscopejones9217
      @gyroscopejones9217 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Just let it happen and buy safe assets next time. It takes Americans three times to learn something, hence, "third times the charm"

  • @BanTheBBCHD
    @BanTheBBCHD หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is solid, sound and wise advice for Sam Bankman-Fried. The problem is he won't take any of it. By all observations, SBF remains utterly delusional. He still believes that if he had better risk managed his stolen customer's assets and focused on 'liquidity', his customers would have been made whole. He does not accept that is irrelevant and that he stole billions and billions of his customers money in the first place. Amazingly, this is what he told the judge at his sentencing. He simply has not come to terms with the gravity of the deadly serious crime he committed and he is only sorry that he didn't get away with it. People will never get the economic circumstances of their assets back because the assets that were stolen have gone up ~400% since the bankruptcy petition date - but they only get the money valuation on that date (the bottom of the market). SBF getting 25 years means he got off light in all the circumstances.

    • @jamiereese2448
      @jamiereese2448 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😢😮

    • @northshorehighlanders6167
      @northshorehighlanders6167 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is he CAPABLE of understanding the relationships between these types of actions and consequences? Are there actually others around him enabling his beliefs or is he so (delusionally) convinced of his intellectual (I assume) superiority that, by extension, there MUST be something flawed in everything everyone else says? Do these delusional attitudes "prove" him right (to himself) by accepting others will determine his fate - burn me at the stake thinking? (That's messed up logic, but not totally implausible.) Regardless of whatever behavioural anomaly he might possess, even HE can't possibly miss how this will end up. He must have received lots of advice about how to handle himself and more importantly, WHY. Only he can explain why he's chosen to conduct himself as he has.

    • @BanTheBBCHD
      @BanTheBBCHD หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@northshorehighlanders6167 Yes I think you may be right - I do think its possible he thinks what he did was justifiable because he believes he has a superior intellect motive to make the world a better place. Its a highly delusional psychiatric complex.

  • @joseananich5023
    @joseananich5023 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Always great content and motivation. Thanks for sharing.

  • @othmanabdullah8440
    @othmanabdullah8440 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    excellent presentation

  • @ladyeowyn42
    @ladyeowyn42 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting to learn your team is working with others in the case. Explains some things.

  • @michaelkclark6981
    @michaelkclark6981 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like most of yours videos and questions.We cannot second guess every trial.
    Yes some people are imprisoned unfairly. However the majority are not.
    Trust in our judicial system is important to the confidence of the citizens.

  • @paulakreinberg1448
    @paulakreinberg1448 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I wish suf would listen to your message.

  • @multijanni100
    @multijanni100 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i'd like to see that original movie on the in-prison interview by the chicago professor, mentioned @ 46.21, can someone send the link, thanks !

  • @davidhutchinson5233
    @davidhutchinson5233 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you don't take responsibility you're done before you've begun. It's so basic and simple. And as my old great Uncle who fought in WWII told me when I was a kid, common sense just isn't that common.

  • @janatman
    @janatman หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love your videos! As someone from SB County, Lompoc is pronounced LOM-poke in these parts.

    • @WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial
      @WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey thanks! I’m always pronouncing it incorrectly and getting reprimanded dammit!! When I say it, I tell myself, “it’s coming!

  • @mariapilarme
    @mariapilarme หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks

  • @internetpolification
    @internetpolification หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    His parents may well be feeling the emotions you mentioned but they benefited hugely from SBF’s crime…home in the Bahamas…huge financial pay etc

  • @t.c.s.7724
    @t.c.s.7724 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The people who were victimized by SBF won't forget him. His sentence should have been decided by those who lost their life's savings

  • @newhorizon4066
    @newhorizon4066 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Re the prison guard's sentence: it's like comparing apples to oranges.
    Re SBF changing his ways ("Dear Judge Kaplan...): remember a tiger doesn't change its stripes.

  • @Montrovantis
    @Montrovantis หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The lesson is: You don't get rich without allowances from others and concessions from your part (see PDiddy). Do not go rogue and do what the mafia says or else.

  • @donparnell309
    @donparnell309 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How does the post-arrest behavior of the prison guard compare with SBF's?

  • @fiona_ff
    @fiona_ff หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always love your take on everything - so sensible and motivational! Loved your Holmes coverage as well!
    also I dont get people in the comments wishing white collar criminals to get life sentence. Like, they are assholes, right, but there are unfortunately way worse crimes and way worse criminals. Save your hate for those.
    PS: why are you saying SBF will get only 15 years?
    greetings from Ukraine

  • @newhorizon4066
    @newhorizon4066 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Judge said, he flipped the coin. Now pay the consequence. 25yrs is on the lenient side. Should have been 30, taking into account the parole margin. On the bright side, he now will have an audience that would drink on his every word, and we all know there are many ehr many erh many.

  • @Johnny_Utah
    @Johnny_Utah หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it true that with the “first step act” he can be out in 12.5 years?

    • @WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial
      @WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That is not correct, unless he gets a compassionate release.

    • @Dawg99999
      @Dawg99999 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial85% of the sentence

  • @rddavies
    @rddavies หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    No sympathy from me - dude knew exactly what he was doing and then doubled down on bad decisions after he was charged. It's not the judge's fault, it's not the "system's" fault it's SBF's fault. In a year or two people will largely forget about him and he'll be figuring out how to trade ramen soups for something he considers more valuable.

  • @user-ex9pf5bg6n
    @user-ex9pf5bg6n หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bankman-Fried should have gotten 35 - 50 years

  • @tradergirljam
    @tradergirljam หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was expecting at least 50 years...thats pretty fair in my book .

  • @rolandnelson6722
    @rolandnelson6722 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He needs at least enough time in prison to figure out what he did was wrong.
    25 years may not be enough for that alone.

  • @robertmueller2023
    @robertmueller2023 หลายเดือนก่อน

    DoJ ... how's Tim and the Cook? They were both very photogenic.

  • @AudreysBrains
    @AudreysBrains หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am way too fascinated/interested in how you spent your time in prison 😂 But I think it’s partially because there are lessons from how you spent your time inside that are applicable to life on the outside: it can be easy to sleepwalk through free life too. It can be easy to work excessively to avoid bigger questions or goals in free life. I find the parallels to be interesting and something that can improve my ordinary life on the outside- what are my bigger goals in life? What steps am I going to take to get there?

  • @duggysduggys5505
    @duggysduggys5505 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I disagree. One witness with impact statement said 3 suicides resulted. Would I rather go light on SBF and put it into the money incinerator of “solving” LAs homeless problem? No. San Fran is perfect example of well paid bureaucrats not wanting to solve anything else lose their cushy positions.

  • @ComputerUser-ty3ml
    @ComputerUser-ty3ml หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ah, the memories. The jingle of the COs keys, then "Count, time, count time, gentlemen." That and "yard recall". SBF needs a tan. Have him work in landscaping. It'll help get him in shape. He's young. He'll survive just fine. Just don't get a shot, trash your GTC and wind up in the SHU. No parole in federal. BOP = backwards on purpose. Until he has 10 years left, he be confined in an FCC, then he'll be eligible for a camp. Credit for time served @ MDC. He could also shorten it up getting into RDAP. Michael Santos is a wonderful comfort and guiding force for those facing federal prison.

  • @charlessmyth
    @charlessmyth หลายเดือนก่อน

    With his parents and his former colleagues/lover/friends, also looking at jail time, what support network does SBF have. As the "whipping boy" for those who used Holmes to pump-and-dump Theranos stock, while the going was good, and who also ought to have seen jail, Holmes was convicted on a lesser range of charges than SBF, so got less of a sentence. As for proportionality in the eyes of the law: It may be that this type of "victimless" crime is a more attractive proposition to commit, so the public need the weight of time-to-be-served, as a disincentive.

  • @lisabagot6680
    @lisabagot6680 หลายเดือนก่อน

    An attorney thinks his last 10 years will be spent at home. How is that possible. The prison guard should have 50 years!!!

  • @BRIANREYN1
    @BRIANREYN1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SBF must have known that a long jail sentence was coming, he has plenty of resources so why did he not arrange to travel to a country where it would be difficult if not impossible to extradite him to the USA? Now that he's been jailed why does he not use his resources to escape when he is transferred to a lower security jail?

  • @leonardcollings7389
    @leonardcollings7389 หลายเดือนก่อน

    25 years means he got off light in all the circumstances should be 100 years for all the people he bankrupt. How much money does he have hidden?

  • @robertmueller2023
    @robertmueller2023 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Look at how effectual I was without one smidgen of input as of yet. What do we deduce from that, DoJ?

  • @gyroscopejones9217
    @gyroscopejones9217 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    SBF wasn't very good at running a business but he is arguably an amazing math, programming and financial trading. He should contribute in those fields instead of teaching people to run a business. I would argue he needs to bow his head and actually learn how to properly run a business in prison instead. He can still sell the other skills.

  • @silvioschurig749
    @silvioschurig749 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am from Europe and in general, Prison Terms in the US are way too high on a lot of crimes, and rehabilitation especially in many state prison systems seems to be lip service at best. But the What-about-ism is really not helpful. What-about - What-about the existences SBF ruined? Certainly not all of his victims, but some lost their life savings, and faced extremely serious consequences for themselves and those around them - up to and including self harm. What about those who lost a lot of their future prospects, like college funds etc. What Holmes did for the most part was defraud investors. At least from what I understand about her "business" they only affected the general public in a limited way, and it is considerably more plausible her "fake it til you make it" really aimed to provide products / services. SBF / Alameida etc. was set up as ponzi scheme and fraud from the outset. So to me relative to Holmes, his sentence seems reasonable.

    • @MsCardio1
      @MsCardio1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We in America are appalled at how short prison terms are in Europe. There seems to be no desire to take REVENGE on the perpetrator for the EVIL he/ she has caused. Do you not think the victims of crimes are entitled to REVENGE.....simply knowing the crook is suffering every day for his/ her misdeeds?

  • @user-uc7lr6hm7p
    @user-uc7lr6hm7p หลายเดือนก่อน

    25yrs will do 18yrs he should do a Aaron Hernandez

  • @mikkelclemmensen381
    @mikkelclemmensen381 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As usual, you are very concerned when it comes to long prison sentences for white collar criminals, however rare they are. What would be appropriate for Sam Bankman-Fried? 25 months? 25 weeks? 25 days? Why not 25 minutes?

    • @WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial
      @WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial  หลายเดือนก่อน

      10-15 years would have served the purpose, I think.

    • @mikkelclemmensen381
      @mikkelclemmensen381 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficialAnd 10-15 years will probably be just about the amount of time, he will end up actually spending behind bars before someone decides that, being white and from a privileged background, it won't be fair to keep him inside. Thanks for your honest reply and for your willingness to engage in this discussion. I rarely agree with you, but that, I respect.

  • @CM-cy3qo
    @CM-cy3qo หลายเดือนก่อน

    His victims lost 10 billion USD. Multiple suicides and bankruptcies. 25 years is "light".

  • @Dawg99999
    @Dawg99999 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dont think it would have made a difference if he pleaded guilty..

  • @valdomero738
    @valdomero738 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He's gonna walk in 10 years.

    • @renardfranse
      @renardfranse หลายเดือนก่อน

      dont bet on it

    • @valdomero738
      @valdomero738 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@renardfranse he's chartered Jewish royalty. He's gonna walk.

    • @internetpolification
      @internetpolification หลายเดือนก่อน

      10 years is a LONG time

    • @MakerInMotion
      @MakerInMotion หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My understanding is federal sentences require 85% of the sentence to be served minimum. Like how Elizabeth Holmes is doing 9 years even if she behaves.

    • @valdomero738
      @valdomero738 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MakerInMotion bankman is Jewish royalty connected to Likud and Trump. Any republican president would pardon him. So he just has to pray GOP wins.

  • @pippalefebvre5575
    @pippalefebvre5575 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Justin, I really enjoy your commentary and perspective. But at 22:50 you are coming in pretty hot about the length of SBF’s sentence. You and your viewers may forget him in a year or two, but I can guarantee you that his numerous victims will not. Couple that with his lack of remorse and witness tampering, and it is reasonable to believe that he likely to offend again because he sees himself above the laws that govern us mere mortals who are not math geniuses. Further, I think the judicial system needs to send a message that an “Oops, sorry, my bad. I didn’t mean to do it,” is not enough. With all the resources available to SBF, he could have chosen to take a plea deal. He did not and continues to show that he feels he did nothing wrong, and that he is the smartest person in the room. So many of your videos talk about how poorly Sam Bankman Fried played the game after being charged and convicted. He is not like other convicts you talk about who had terrible childhoods, suffering abuse, privation, racism, drug addiction, etc. With all that, he still received less than 25% of the maximum. He may not have killed or raped anyone, but his 8 billion dollar fraud ruined lives nonetheless, and that shouldn’t be forgotten. And why did he do it? So he could live like a king and still receive praise and accolades for being a generous, humble human being. 🙄

    • @WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial
      @WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial  หลายเดือนก่อน

      So much to unpack here. Soon I’ll cover.

    • @MsCardio1
      @MsCardio1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial Just address why the concept of REVENGE upon the criminal is bad.....I think it is very good

  • @suzannespanier4492
    @suzannespanier4492 หลายเดือนก่อน

    His thefts have to be paid by us. That’s what bankruptcy is, isn’t it?

  • @billyjean9484
    @billyjean9484 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No loss = reduced on appeal to 12 years. He serves 7 in camp & walks out. If he was Christian/ Repub: life in prison.

  • @matthewnewton8812
    @matthewnewton8812 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really am beginning to despise anecdotes. They are the bane of reason and rationality. I don’t mean anecdotes as in stories about your own life that you tell for fun- I’m talking about the use of single, rare-case exceptions as evidence of some supposed larger problem.
    Obviously, a prison guard r*ping prisoners is a revolting human being who deserves far more than 6 years. And it’s possible that bankman fried deserved less than 25 years.
    These facts are not in dispute. The issue is that the myriad factors that went into determining these sentences- not only the factors that the judge used, but other factors that may have made certain sentences impossible- are highly complex and intertwined. It’s meaningless to compare one instance of over-sentencing with one instance of under-sentencing. I mean, you can compare them to say that one or both of those individual sentences are unfair. But as some kind of metric of sentencing in the criminal justice system as a whole, it’s totally useless. In the case of the prison guard, for example, there may not have been enough evidence to be certain of a conviction at trial, and the prosecutor made three best deal he could that assured jail time.
    We don’t habitually sentence violent offenders to minimal jail time. Sex offenders are given especially harsh sentences generally speaking, as they should be. In Florida sex offenses can now be charged as capital crimes.
    It probably is fair to say that in the US generally, sentences for federal white collar crimes are overly punitive. But that argument gains no traction by comparing them to sentences for violent crimes, which are truly draconian.

  • @johnhoens
    @johnhoens หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, what happens to the GF and the other so called 'conspirators'? I guess they just walk? Are the parents still being sued? How's that all going?

    • @renardfranse
      @renardfranse หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      those "parents" are certifiable

    • @richard8242
      @richard8242 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      3 of the conspirators have already pleaded guilty and are awaiting sentencing. The parents are being sued by FTX to get back their ill- gotten gains and may also face criminal charges

  • @dragline.
    @dragline. หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You keep bringing up the money of keeping him in prison. He stole what, 10 billion dollars for who knows what nefarious purpose? You could save how many lives with that money? The harm he did is not easily quantifiable like an assault. He's clearly guilty and arrogant has no moral qualms about his actions. The tax money is well-spent. If you want better prison conditions and reform, argue that. Not that his punishment is unjust.

  • @user-uc7lr6hm7p
    @user-uc7lr6hm7p หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sam's parents have been con artist there whole life's he's the apple of there crooked eye's

  • @tamaraswan2304
    @tamaraswan2304 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Way too long!! Five years fine

  • @SomervilleBob
    @SomervilleBob หลายเดือนก่อน

    Deterrent sentencing!

  • @extendedplay8830
    @extendedplay8830 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    SBF - will be fine !!!!
    He’s a white male who was raised in affluent lifestyle.
    If you can’t do the crime
    Don’t do the crime !!
    Will his parents survive and live while SBF is warehoused ???
    Do your time
    Mind your business
    Make parole and rebuild your life !!

  • @sanjosemike3137
    @sanjosemike3137 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The first thing my wife said when I told her about SBF's sentence was: "What about Hunter Biden?"
    Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)

    • @MsCardio1
      @MsCardio1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah....what about him....since the case seems to be falling apart before our eyes.......but of course you wouldn't know that, would you?

    • @sanjosemike3137
      @sanjosemike3137 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MsCardio1 I think we both know that if ANY of these charges or facts of the case were involved with a relative of Trump, he/she would be in jail by now.
      The case against Hunter did not “fall apart.” They just chose not to prosecute.
      Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)

  • @MsCardio1
    @MsCardio1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    he achieved something.....yes how to STEAL/ LOSE 8 BILLLION dollars . What an accomplishment !!!