Anton almost never says anything as a fact. He plays his words around to leave it kinda open-ended, like "this is fact, for now". I love that about him, it's very professional and gives the right idea. His attention to detail and constant politeness, it's honestly amazing. In the years I've watched you, you've never shown the slightest hint of being in a bad mood. I love you Anton! (non platonically, of course)
Knowing how many neutrinos pass through the whole earth with no interaction, I still have a hard time imagining enough neutrinos to actually "push" layers of the star away.
That was a great explanation of why we need to use simulations LOL - 'we can't just keep looking at it, because we're not going to live that long' was perfect.
Hello wonderful Anton! I hope your day has been well, and that it gets better:) Had a better day than usual today, I went for a walk and found a pretty nw territories quarter for my province collection.
Anton channel is my favorite keep myself fascinated watching this at night in bed balled up with headphones until falling asleep again. Keep it coming my guy.
The Nature we exists in and our bodies are formed from; created all the physics, biology, chemistry.. everything. Science is the study of what nature already IS and has been doing since the beginning of time. To understand all of Nature will take many many life times. Great video again :)
Dear Anton, you've made an intriguing video. However, it left me with a lot of questions. In particular, what were the assumptions used in this simulation? Perhaps you could do another video explaining some of these assumptions. Thank you. Best wishes, John.
Fascinating stuff. I will be interested to learn if further trials with these more comprehensively complete models might begin to shake out more precise descriptions of mechanisms and outcomes of planetary material distributions in the course of star forging.
This simulated time-lapse is very kewl! I would hope to find out how not only star formation evolves, but how elemental formation does, too. e.g., under what conditions do metals larger than iron atoms form / fuse together to make metals like titanium, as in your example. Thank You, Anton!
I wonder how long it will take until we can use generic particles and AI, in order to obtain true results without specific formulas. Right now, everything is painstakingly programmed.
It would be nice to know how these simulations work. As a software writer, I’ve always viewed “models” with a very jaundiced eye. I’ve said it before. . . I wonder how theories would differ if we were using a different distance ladder. I’m suspicious of any distance measurements that are beyond our abilities with parallax over the baseline of the diameter of earth’s yearly journey around the sun.
Anton you are an intelligent human. I wish for more people to be like you, curious about our universe. I grew up watching the next generation and watching science programs such as this is a real treat, it is even better when you explain things in lay-mans terms as possible. Awesome job man. I hope everything in life goes well for you, so you can post us more interesting videos.
so essentially modern astronomy is using observed phenomena and theories to simulate nature and make predictions, then maybe get lucky enough or wait long enough for tech to be good enough to observe them in the nature. Seems neat but hopefully we dont have to wait too long
We'll probably need to be at Dyson sphere levels of tech before we have computers that can run simulations like that in less than the span of one person's life.
Let's see. Two lonely childless clouds bump into each other in the night. Over time they become intimately entwined. Amidst the swirling and jetting, little stars are conceived. Anton. You old softie. Telling such a love story. It's right up there with Romeo and Juliet.😎
Imagine living on a planet orbiting a star in the NGC 1252 globular cluster. Would there ever be night? It'd be a great premise for a story about a group of civilization all evolving and living in close proximity to each other and all discovering each other about the same time. What would happen?
@@gravitonthongs1363 Seems that would depend of the size of the cluster and number of stars. Seeing that image really had an effect on me. I had to voice it.
I dislike when people say a natural process is inefficient. Inefficiency depends on the desired outcome, so assuming that the process is inefficient assumes that we know what the entire process is supposed to accomplish. For example, star formation might not be inefficient if planetary formation, the formation of the cosmic web, the dissemination/distribution of material and energy, etc is taken into account.
They don't.. it's just a simulation. Someone gets a doctorate on it, another one a budget, etc. That's the actual mechanism behind these simulations in reality, sponsored by tax money. It's a lucrative playground. Not saying it's bad, but it's reality.
@@scififan698 I agree and thank you. To many people fail to see that most of what is called science is NOT science. Science is observation, and repeatable tests not nice mathematical formulas.
Have you ever looked into the electric universe theory? It's interesting,and seems to make accurate predictions where main stream science doesn't. I can't say it's correct any more than thus stuff,but it's interesting.
@@34ccsn yes, I've studied it. its not science, its philosophy, that's why mainstream science doesn't pay it any attention (plus its main talkers all happen to be rabid conspiracy theorists which never helps your cred).
It seems to me there are too many unknowns for these simulation including gas cloud density, matter clumping, nuclear change, supernova behaviour, black holes, and certainly dark matter. I mean you could try.
Stars are created when Birkland currents short from Space to Counterspace. Mediated to center of stars are Protons in Counterspace as seen from Space. After Aether decays its e- and e+, only its Inertial Plane is left. Oscillating Inertial Planes = Neutrinos. Jets are Hydrogen/Protons in Counterspace. Jets are Dielectric Voidance Field returning to Dielectric Energy. Quasars are Magnetic Toruses returning 90° to Dielectric Energy Hyperboloid. Magnetism gives Magnitude to the Universe.
Did you ever think that maybe just a theory. That its just a static charge that arcs for a long period of time from tightly packed molecules like a dust fire. Just saying. Love your channel my dude!
we love you, wonderful Anton. This video made me think: I'm studying computer programming, and I wonder how hard it would be to get a programming job doing simulations for Illustris Project?
"we can't keep looking at it, we wont survive that long" Uhh there's a funny thing about light, it's not instantaneous and has a delay. We can find stars before or just when they are about to form in all different stages.... Although maybe this would lead to the same problem because it might be like finding a needle in a universe and thus the time is about the same.
Anton -- love tour videos and look forward to the ones to come. Question: Is there any thought given to the possibility that dark matter could possibility have something to do with the creation of new stars?
While possible, it's not really a factor at those scales. It's hard to appreciate just how much more lumpy baryonic matter gets. Even though there's something like five times as much dark matter in the nearest few cubic light years than there is baryonic matter, it's spread much, _much_ more evenly. So evenly in fact that even now, after settling for a few billion years, within Saturn's orbital radius from the Sun the total mass of dark matter in that ball only amounts to less than half the mass of Ceres. That's why it doesn't show up in orbital calculations either, btw.
Dark Matter is in Counterspace. Opposite vortex of Space Matter. Aether has a Dielectric Energy Hyperboloid, one vortex in Space and its opposite vortex in Counterspace. Dielectric Energy decays into Dielectric Voidance Field/Magnetism, surrounding its mediated to center Magnetic Torus. Dark Matter is in Counterspace.
I think the movement of gas would be affected by DM and should contribute to some filament formation, but DM is not a requirement for star formation as it is still observed in galaxies with low DM values.
As always very informative and impressed with your teaching. Do you ever think we will ever revise our understanding of time and distance in relation to our Earth born concept?
So the input to the jets is molecular clouds, but the output is a broad mix of gas and radiation... I'm thinking some considerable mass is being converted into gravitational energy by accelerating feedback cycles, thus producing enough force to consolidate gas into self-sustaining bubbles
Very interesting. Since the mechanism for jets is not understood (at all), they presumably added this effect in the simulation without known cause? I wonder how they designed that force. If they apply it as a repulsive gravitational cone. That in itself should be a significant finding.
when I yell "anyone seen My cup" in my house. everyone instantly knows it's the above tumbler i'm bellowing about. rest assured, that is high praise indeed.
Once the critical mass has been achieved for internal fusion. Most of the gas is expelled from then surrounding area that explain why the stars are so much smaller. Could explain why most massive stars are fairly rare.
Is it a possibility for a black hole to pull everything inwards gas and solids alike till its compressed and a spark weather solids hitting other solids/Meteor surfer/ water heating meet spraking a explosion kicking out chucks later to become planets and the gas remains forming a star with planets like the big bang happening on a smaller scale over and over as apposed to our original assumption of just one bang making everything...?
I can't get enough of Anton. His videos are pure curiosity fuel and there's no other channel like this with so much positivity.
and there's sooooo manyyyy videos xD
Anton is the BEST. He calls me a "Wonderful Person", and reminds me to "Stay Wonderful" on every video. All the great stuff in between is secondary.
Positivity is because we are wonderful persons =)
Check out "smarter everyday" too!
But I feel ya. Antons content is amazing.
Many of my favorite astronomer (like Dr. Becky) hosted TH-cam channels enjoy his videos too!
I believe when Anton says hello wonderful person, he means it. Makes me feel good.
Same.
Same 🥺
It's my daily dose of "feel good" hormone lmao
Further evidence for the "it takes one to know one" theorem. Love your videos, Anton.
It makes me so happy that you all think I'm wonderful.
Peace
Anton almost never says anything as a fact. He plays his words around to leave it kinda open-ended, like "this is fact, for now". I love that about him, it's very professional and gives the right idea. His attention to detail and constant politeness, it's honestly amazing. In the years I've watched you, you've never shown the slightest hint of being in a bad mood. I love you Anton! (non platonically, of course)
5:15 wow, those visuals are beautiful!
wonder how the camera man survived!
8:50 expanded my consciousness and imagination.
This is something I wanted to see my whole life!
You the real Wonderful Person, Anton!
Oh how the tables have turned
Just like in the Fallout game series - Jet is the answer to all of our problems!
Try coke first. If you want to get addicted.
Hello Wonderful Anton
Wonderful Rakata Star Forge revelatory star formation simulation
Unfortunately, we still need several star maps before we can travel to the Star Forge
Some one needs to take the "It Aliens" meme and say "I'm not saying it's Jets but .... It's Jets."
But who's aiming the Jets? It's Aliens!!
It took a long time for you to get here Anton, now we see how you originated, a you tube star!
He would be an even bigger star except for his loss of material, early on, from his jets. 😉
Silly me, I thought he originated from his mother and father!
What a beautiful comment. Anton is truly The Star
Underated comment 🤺
You are our best messenger of current Astrophysics discoveries! I share your videos to the popular Space and Astronomy FB groups.
I agree!
Knowing how many neutrinos pass through the whole earth with no interaction, I still have a hard time imagining enough neutrinos to actually "push" layers of the star away.
That was a great explanation of why we need to use simulations LOL - 'we can't just keep looking at it, because we're not going to live that long' was perfect.
I always start my TH-cam viewing with Anton.
He is a wonderful person.
amazing visualization and explanation of star formation. deffinetly the best I've seen and probaly heard
Hello wonderful Anton! I hope your day has been well, and that it gets better:)
Had a better day than usual today, I went for a walk and found a pretty nw territories quarter for my province collection.
The time scale is absolutely mind bending!! We are small... Really small!
Very cool! It is quite amazing how the progress in computer power has improved modeling now larger datasets and calculations are possible.
Always look forward to your videos. Thanks for all of your hard work and research.
Anton channel is my favorite keep myself fascinated watching this at night in bed balled up with headphones until falling asleep again. Keep it coming my guy.
Anton, when are you going to take your vacation you promised us? You need a break. We all do occasionally.
^this
I recommend going fishing
@@anthonybrown3198 How do you know fish aren't wonderful people?
Im sure some of them are. Same goes for plants.
Its just the circle of life my friend.
I dont fish for sport.
The Nature we exists in and our bodies are formed from; created all the physics, biology, chemistry.. everything.
Science is the study of what nature already IS and has been doing since the beginning of time. To understand all of Nature will take many many life times.
Great video again :)
Would anyone else like to see Anton "Hello wonderful person" Petrov do a video or two with Scott "Fly Safe" Manley?
Stellar jets streaming from Anton's head! He is in the midst of stellar formation.
Thank you Anton. I've bookmarked the Starforge site.
I learn something new every day. Thank you
Wow! Starforge has almost caught up to Dwarf Fortress in complexity! Maybe they should hit up Tarn for some tips.
Can they reverse engineer how our system and the local cloud evolved from prior supernovas and dwarf star explosions?
I dont even know what I did yesterday
Great coverage and explanation on the simulation.
Always answering the questions yet to be asked !
Dear Anton, you've made an intriguing video. However, it left me with a lot of questions. In particular, what were the assumptions used in this simulation? Perhaps you could do another video explaining some of these assumptions. Thank you. Best wishes, John.
Love your channel. And as always I love the proper grammar.
Fascinating stuff. I will be interested to learn if further trials with these more comprehensively complete models might begin to shake out more precise descriptions of mechanisms and outcomes of planetary material distributions in the course of star forging.
I kinda want to change my TH-cam name to Wonderful Person so Anton says hello to me specifically
keep the name and go to SaveAFox
Amazing
Go to Save a Fox, you have the right name for that channel
no mames
@@twonumber22 I checked out SaveAFox. I need to get that story book for my kids, lol
Thanks for everything you do Anton.
Anton , you are the best ! Wouldn't want any one else explaining such a wonderfull discovery in science ..
For real man, you have the best channel in TH-cam!
Interesting that once they start incorporating more magnetohydrodynamics the simulations are more realistic.
I see you just ignore every other factor and focus on the one that suits your cognitive bias towards EU pseudoscience.
This simulated time-lapse is very kewl! I would hope to find out how not only star formation evolves, but how elemental formation does, too. e.g., under what conditions do metals larger than iron atoms form / fuse together to make metals like titanium, as in your example. Thank You, Anton!
I wonder how long it will take until we can use generic particles and AI, in order to obtain true results without specific formulas. Right now, everything is painstakingly programmed.
All of this will remain theoretical until we travel close enough to measure everything, and I do mean _everything_, in a star forming region.
It would be nice to know how these simulations work. As a software writer, I’ve always viewed “models” with a very jaundiced eye.
I’ve said it before. . . I wonder how theories would differ if we were using a different distance ladder. I’m suspicious of any distance measurements that are beyond our abilities with parallax over the baseline of the diameter of earth’s yearly journey around the sun.
The huge apparent size of very distant galaxies and their ultra massive black holes is troublesome in that regard.
Thanks for your continued work.
"Star Forge"...awesome name. I like that scientists are also geeks.
Personally a big fan of the term "Black Hole Forge"... (hoping someone out there gets it)
Star forge
*Screeches in Rakatan*
@@Fortune090 Outer Wilds?
@@clocked0 Hello, fellow traveler!
@@Fortune090 The best game we aren't allowed to talk about
Your vids are awesome ... im hooked. Good stuff, @anton
Anton you are an intelligent human. I wish for more people to be like you, curious about our universe.
I grew up watching the next generation and watching science programs such as this is a real treat, it is even better when you explain things in lay-mans terms as possible.
Awesome job man. I hope everything in life goes well for you, so you can post us more interesting videos.
so essentially modern astronomy is using observed phenomena and theories to simulate nature and make predictions, then maybe get lucky enough or wait long enough for tech to be good enough to observe them in the nature. Seems neat but hopefully we dont have to wait too long
I doubt matter based instruments will do in this case.
@@Lemme-sniff-ya are you proposing quantum computers or anyonic circuits? please elaborate what you meant
Enough!... of this enough words... what a blasphemy of a word.. (Enough) hhhhh
@@AdrianCotirta lol why so mad bro? I think it gets the point across and its good enough.
Very well explained Anton you too are a star
Thank you wonderful Anton
Thanks Anton
Hope they keep the simulation running till life emerges.
🤣🤣🤣
We'll probably need to be at Dyson sphere levels of tech before we have computers that can run simulations like that in less than the span of one person's life.
I love the way that some of the gas jets in the simulation look like they came out of Anton's head. His mInd is officially blown.
Haha, yes indeed! It's either that, or... The onions! Oh dear, those onions!!
Anton, you say things in the universe happen very slowly, but it's all relative! 😄 Have a good day you wonderful person
Let's see. Two lonely childless clouds bump into each other in the night. Over time they become intimately entwined. Amidst the swirling and jetting, little stars are conceived.
Anton. You old softie. Telling such a love story. It's right up there with Romeo and Juliet.😎
I look forward to your videos every day. Love you Anton
Another great video! Thanks again, Anton.
Imagine living on a planet orbiting a star in the NGC 1252 globular cluster. Would there ever be night? It'd be a great premise for a story about a group of civilization all evolving and living in close proximity to each other and all discovering each other about the same time. What would happen?
No stable orbits
@@gravitonthongs1363 Seems that would depend of the size of the cluster and number of stars. Seeing that image really had an effect on me. I had to voice it.
Nice adding the backcoiling of the plasmas treu the stars toward elcader en back to😍(feedback)🙏❤
It frustrates me when thinking about all the simulations they probably run on things that are so out there that never reach the public.
They reach millions of people, straight through their tax forms.
@@scififan698 you know what I mean.
Standard Model Science Fiction!
Great video! Thank you Anton 😊
I dislike when people say a natural process is inefficient. Inefficiency depends on the desired outcome, so assuming that the process is inefficient assumes that we know what the entire process is supposed to accomplish. For example, star formation might not be inefficient if planetary formation, the formation of the cosmic web, the dissemination/distribution of material and energy, etc is taken into account.
How do they know if it's accurate or not if they don't have actual observational evidence to compare it to? More guesses and maybes.
They don't.. it's just a simulation. Someone gets a doctorate on it, another one a budget, etc. That's the actual mechanism behind these simulations in reality, sponsored by tax money. It's a lucrative playground. Not saying it's bad, but it's reality.
In 100 years people will look back at this time and laugh just like we look back 100 years and laugh. Its what happens...
@@scififan698 I agree and thank you. To many people fail to see that most of what is called science is NOT science. Science is observation, and repeatable tests not nice mathematical formulas.
Have you ever looked into the electric universe theory? It's interesting,and seems to make accurate predictions where main stream science doesn't. I can't say it's correct any more than thus stuff,but it's interesting.
@@34ccsn yes, I've studied it. its not science, its philosophy, that's why mainstream science doesn't pay it any attention (plus its main talkers all happen to be rabid conspiracy theorists which never helps your cred).
I dunno, last time someone made a "Star Forge" they took over the galaxy.
Been playing SWTOR lately? 😁
4 months may be super fast on a cosmic scale, but it's kind of hard imagining waiting that long to see how all your hard work turns out.
This is so amazing, thank you for sharing!
I wonder if the simulations of the star size considered dark matter. Because of the canceling out and gravitational pull.
Ahh, real science reporting. Thank you Anton
It seems to me there are too many unknowns for these simulation including gas cloud density, matter clumping, nuclear change, supernova behaviour, black holes, and certainly dark matter. I mean you could try.
I go to sleep every night watching hours of your fantastic videos - thank you
Anton's the Bob Ross of astrophysics
Anton's comments section is the key to world peace
Stars are created when Birkland currents short from Space to Counterspace. Mediated to center of stars are Protons in Counterspace as seen from Space. After Aether decays its e- and e+, only its Inertial Plane is left. Oscillating Inertial Planes = Neutrinos. Jets are Hydrogen/Protons in Counterspace. Jets are Dielectric Voidance Field returning to Dielectric Energy. Quasars are Magnetic Toruses returning 90° to Dielectric Energy Hyperboloid. Magnetism gives Magnitude to the Universe.
This is an incredibly significant discovery.
One step closer to knowing how stars work from the inside.
Did you ever think that maybe just a theory. That its just a static charge that arcs for a long period of time from tightly packed molecules like a dust fire. Just saying. Love your channel my dude!
great video Anton, surprised you gone over 1m followers yet
Thank yew Anton!
This is actually the first time I see someone mention a white dwarf producing jets while feeding. Cool !
Pretty interesting indeed!
we love you, wonderful Anton. This video made me think: I'm studying computer programming, and I wonder how hard it would be to get a programming job doing simulations for Illustris Project?
"we can't keep looking at it, we wont survive that long" Uhh there's a funny thing about light, it's not instantaneous and has a delay. We can find stars before or just when they are about to form in all different stages....
Although maybe this would lead to the same problem because it might be like finding a needle in a universe and thus the time is about the same.
Anton -- love tour videos and look forward to the ones to come. Question: Is there any thought given to the possibility that dark matter could possibility have something to do with the creation of new stars?
While possible, it's not really a factor at those scales. It's hard to appreciate just how much more lumpy baryonic matter gets. Even though there's something like five times as much dark matter in the nearest few cubic light years than there is baryonic matter, it's spread much, _much_ more evenly. So evenly in fact that even now, after settling for a few billion years, within Saturn's orbital radius from the Sun the total mass of dark matter in that ball only amounts to less than half the mass of Ceres. That's why it doesn't show up in orbital calculations either, btw.
Dark Matter is in Counterspace. Opposite vortex of Space Matter. Aether has a Dielectric Energy Hyperboloid, one vortex in Space and its opposite vortex in Counterspace. Dielectric Energy decays into Dielectric Voidance Field/Magnetism, surrounding its mediated to center Magnetic Torus. Dark Matter is in Counterspace.
I think the movement of gas would be affected by DM and should contribute to some filament formation, but DM is not a requirement for star formation as it is still observed in galaxies with low DM values.
You gotta luv Anton he stretches my brain
As always very informative and impressed with your teaching.
Do you ever think we will ever revise our understanding of time and distance in relation to our Earth born concept?
So the input to the jets is molecular clouds, but the output is a broad mix of gas and radiation... I'm thinking some considerable mass is being converted into gravitational energy by accelerating feedback cycles, thus producing enough force to consolidate gas into self-sustaining bubbles
Very interesting. Since the mechanism for jets is not understood (at all), they presumably added this effect in the simulation without known cause? I wonder how they designed that force. If they apply it as a repulsive gravitational cone. That in itself should be a significant finding.
What a hard worker. Спасибо!
great video as usual!
Great video mate!
I had determined this years ago. While planets ejecta is located near the equator as continents and volcanos.
Please Anton, we need real space bubbles now. PLEASE MAKE THEM HAPPEN FOR US.
when I yell "anyone seen My cup" in my house. everyone instantly knows it's the above tumbler i'm bellowing about. rest assured, that is high praise indeed.
I have a feeling I’m gonna watch this channel the rest of my life.
Once the critical mass has been achieved for internal fusion. Most of the gas is expelled from then surrounding area that explain why the stars are so much smaller. Could explain why most massive stars are fairly rare.
Nice images. Nice colors
That NSF computer isn’t a superconducting processor- i can’t wait till we get one from one of those
Thumbnail looks like 2 circles overlapping just like how the flower of life starts ^^ damn
Fluid dynamics at "astrological " dimensions. Never gets old
I adore these videos!
when Anton said, we can't just keep looking at it, he wasn't talking about us individually, he meant as a species we won't be around long enough, lol.
Is it a possibility for a black hole to pull everything inwards gas and solids alike till its compressed and a spark weather solids hitting other solids/Meteor surfer/ water heating meet spraking a explosion kicking out chucks later to become planets and the gas remains forming a star with planets like the big bang happening on a smaller scale over and over as apposed to our original assumption of just one bang making everything...?
Great video thanks bud!