In case you haven't seen we have an updated video made for Nephilim! A lot of strategies here still apply but there is always more to know! th-cam.com/video/5XyE_xZOV2Y/w-d-xo.html
We brought out the big guns for this tactical video! and by that I mean lots and lots of railguns and crisis teams. Let us know which strategy you liked, if you think tau are a bit too busted right now, or if you have a plan we didn't cover here that you want to share!
sky ray better than Hammer head post nerf you saying ...but that is only if railguns get a nerf and not just other stuff. like the tactics stuff you guys deserve to grow big
Regarding Prototype systems. I have a setup for a Bork'an Coldstar Commander that looks like it could work. I call it Commander Brrt Mor Da'ka. It's centered around the the Bork'an warlord trait and signature system. You take the High Output Burst Cannon and the Prototype Burst Cannon. The Signature system makes two weapons +1 to wound at half range, 11 inches for the burst cannons with the Bork'an sept ability. The trait improve it to ap -1 and mortal wounds on 6s So with montka, that prototype burst cannon is going to be wounding gravis armor on 2s at ap -3 (ignores light cover to boot thanks to cold star) and likely to proc 1 or 2 mortals in addition. There's literally nothing in the game that is going to like getting hit by it. With the bork'an sept strat, no special rules are resisting it. Not invuls, not feel no pains, not dam -1. It's 4-5 wounds (including mortals) with low variance on something like a relic contemptor dreadnought. or 7 more likely 8 dead necron warriors. It also does things like allow you to take out a Nightbringer on turn 2, 3 wounds that break the phase limits is likely, and 4 is decently possible. Throw in the high output burst cannon and you stand a chance of shredding pretty much anything it's pointed at.
I really like your guys right to the point style . are you going to be doing actual codex reviews ...can you do Imperial Knights they're new codex coming
Stealth suits have a good statline and kit to tie up shooty units for fairly cheap points 75 pts for 3 t4 3+sv -1 to hit 2w. Just ad 1 shield drone to get them to their destination and instigate migranes.
I don't know if it's because of data slate updates, but neither the tetra nor the piranha have a armor pierce 3 damage 2 shot, the broadsides don't pierce invulnerable saves, so you are not getting the same thing, with broadside railguns, even if it is a better damage spread, and lastly broadsides aren't core, so they don't benefit from the vast majority of command auras
The novasurge plasma rifle is quite nice on a Tau sept commander. Having one shot with that AP4 and no invuls on a unit that hit 2+ with a free hit/wound re-roll is nice. Leta you with high reliability remove those last few wounds from something or kill that last crucial model in a unit (less so now with AoC against marines though). The DW-02 burst cannon is nice simply for it's stats and rules to ignore wound cap/phase, transhuman and FnP. Stim injector is really good at a crisis suit with shield and possibly iridium armour. 10p to decrease amount of suits you loose by one is good. The thermo-flamer is good on a melee oriented commander with precision of the hunter. Mass amount of DMG 2 attacks is always good, AP-2 is decent and S4 is mitigated by ful re-rolls. And with the gauntlet you can punch big holes in an enemy line as well. The rest though... Most of them feel too expensive for what they do
You guys forgot to mention the Prototype system combo for Melee Tau Commander! Thermonuetronic Projector Flamer (25 pts total) + Onnager Gauntlet (1CP) = 1d6+2 Melee Flamer Shots and 4 Strength 12 AP -4 Shots at WS 3+ (2+ if Farsight is nearbye with a +1 Buff)! I recently used it to heroically intervene a Black Templar Warlord dead!
Well do I have a surprise for you! We have one done by one of our best players Justin! He even played them in our first battle report! Here's the link to the tactics video th-cam.com/video/mVwgNUyAtYU/w-d-xo.html
Nice overview, but a couple of mistakes when talking about the Tetras: 1) They only have 2 pulse rifles in addition to the markerlights, where's the -3ap weapon you mentioned ? 2) Read Nachmund Data requires an Infantry unit, however the Tetras are good for Engage points, as they are a very cheap vehicle. Also as this is pre-nerf I'm surprised you didn't mention the air fragmentation projectors. You comparison of the skyray damage output was way off, look at average damage not max damage potential (which will never happen with the skyray). Average shots is 3 per skyray, average damage per damage roll is 4 compared to the max 6 you mentioned. skyray has lower strength and ap so is less likely to get the hit through. Overall skyray does less damage than the railgun, however it has a nice stratagem to fire out of line of sight (well it was good pre balance dataslate nerf to indirect). Would be great to see what you think how things change after the balance dataslate update.
The seeker missile strat is unaffected by the indirect nerf. The indirect nerf affects weapons that have the ability to shoot without LoS. Seeker missiles lack that rule, the strategem allow them to shoot without LoS but the weapon still lack indirect fire rule.
@@eldoriath1 With the stratagem is the weapon firing at a target it does not have LoS to ? If yes it falls under the balance dataslate rules about weapons that fire at targets they do not have line of sight to.
@@rmgaminguk7079 I would say it doesn't because the rule has a way of defining what and indirect weapon is. The strategem is what allows the weapon to fire outside LoS, not the weapon. So the weapon has no rules to fire outside LoS, which is how an indirect fire weapon is classified. "INDIRECT FIRE WEAPONS An Indirect Fire weapon is one that can target units that are not visible to the bearer (e.g. mortars, smart-missile systems, impaler cannons, etc.). If such a weapon targets a unit that is not visible (i.e. no models in a target unit are visible to the firing unit when you selected it as a target), then each time an attack is made with that weapon against that target this phase, worsen the Ballistic Skill characteristic of that attack by 1 and add 1 to any armour saving throws made against that attack." But I do appreciate this would need some form of FAQ. But for me it's clear that the strategem is unaffected because the weapon can't fire outside LoS beside from this strategem.
In case you haven't seen we have an updated video made for Nephilim! A lot of strategies here still apply but there is always more to know! th-cam.com/video/5XyE_xZOV2Y/w-d-xo.html
Tau for days !!
body guard one is one is awesome
Eldar tactics please :)
after watching your Meta show about Tau I took my Hammer heads out of my list and added BS spam and have not lost a game yet !
We brought out the big guns for this tactical video! and by that I mean lots and lots of railguns and crisis teams. Let us know which strategy you liked, if you think tau are a bit too busted right now, or if you have a plan we didn't cover here that you want to share!
Swat tactic is a good alpha strike to try … thanks !!
Awesome video!!! Great Info
Great one !
What!?? I Didn’t know the sky ray gunship has that much output hahah .. I’m trying that combo…. Great fricken video
Like Tau needs more damage
Exactly! there are a couple units I think people are sleeping on since some other units are just glaring strong.
it hits pretty hard and it's cheaper
sky ray better than Hammer head post nerf you saying ...but that is only if railguns get a nerf and not just other stuff. like the tactics stuff you guys deserve to grow big
Loving all of the Tau content!
Regarding Prototype systems.
I have a setup for a Bork'an Coldstar Commander that looks like it could work.
I call it Commander Brrt Mor Da'ka.
It's centered around the the Bork'an warlord trait and signature system.
You take the High Output Burst Cannon and the Prototype Burst Cannon.
The Signature system makes two weapons +1 to wound at half range, 11 inches for the burst cannons with the Bork'an sept ability.
The trait improve it to ap -1 and mortal wounds on 6s
So with montka, that prototype burst cannon is going to be wounding gravis armor on 2s at ap -3 (ignores light cover to boot thanks to cold star) and likely to proc 1 or 2 mortals in addition.
There's literally nothing in the game that is going to like getting hit by it.
With the bork'an sept strat, no special rules are resisting it. Not invuls, not feel no pains, not dam -1.
It's 4-5 wounds (including mortals) with low variance on something like a relic contemptor dreadnought.
or 7 more likely 8 dead necron warriors.
It also does things like allow you to take out a Nightbringer on turn 2, 3 wounds that break the phase limits is likely, and 4 is decently possible.
Throw in the high output burst cannon and you stand a chance of shredding pretty much anything it's pointed at.
I really like your guys right to the point style . are you going to be doing actual codex reviews ...can you do Imperial Knights they're new codex coming
Stealth suits have a good statline and kit to tie up shooty units for fairly cheap points 75 pts for 3 t4 3+sv -1 to hit 2w. Just ad 1 shield drone to get them to their destination and instigate migranes.
sorry that dude is goblin king hehe change it!!
Dw02 burst cannon can put more wounds through the armies that limit wounds for a round, ctan, gazkul, abadon, etc.
what about more breachers this is the way
I don't know if it's because of data slate updates, but neither the tetra nor the piranha have a armor pierce 3 damage 2 shot, the broadsides don't pierce invulnerable saves, so you are not getting the same thing, with broadside railguns, even if it is a better damage spread, and lastly broadsides aren't core, so they don't benefit from the vast majority of command auras
The novasurge plasma rifle is quite nice on a Tau sept commander. Having one shot with that AP4 and no invuls on a unit that hit 2+ with a free hit/wound re-roll is nice. Leta you with high reliability remove those last few wounds from something or kill that last crucial model in a unit (less so now with AoC against marines though).
The DW-02 burst cannon is nice simply for it's stats and rules to ignore wound cap/phase, transhuman and FnP.
Stim injector is really good at a crisis suit with shield and possibly iridium armour. 10p to decrease amount of suits you loose by one is good.
The thermo-flamer is good on a melee oriented commander with precision of the hunter. Mass amount of DMG 2 attacks is always good, AP-2 is decent and S4 is mitigated by ful re-rolls. And with the gauntlet you can punch big holes in an enemy line as well.
The rest though... Most of them feel too expensive for what they do
Ap -5 on the novasurge, turning a 2 up save with an invulnerable, into no save at all
Breacher teams be like: “Ok I pull up, hop out at the after party”
You guys forgot to mention the Prototype system combo for Melee Tau Commander! Thermonuetronic Projector Flamer (25 pts total) + Onnager Gauntlet (1CP) = 1d6+2 Melee Flamer Shots and 4 Strength 12 AP -4 Shots at WS 3+ (2+ if Farsight is nearbye with a +1 Buff)! I recently used it to heroically intervene a Black Templar Warlord dead!
very nice, this Tau tactics video pre the two nerfs that happened so we will be putting up a new Tau video stay tuned
Can you do one of these for custodes? I’m new and started playing with them and wanna hear some cool tactics I can do
Well do I have a surprise for you! We have one done by one of our best players Justin! He even played them in our first battle report! Here's the link to the tactics video th-cam.com/video/mVwgNUyAtYU/w-d-xo.html
Oof we need an update on this because of the nerf to tau
@ around 4:51 ish tp almost 5 min mark the broadsides no longer have core :(
For the greater good!
quite a lot of the tactics aged quickly with the balance dataslate 🙈
Nice overview, but a couple of mistakes when talking about the Tetras:
1) They only have 2 pulse rifles in addition to the markerlights, where's the -3ap weapon you mentioned ?
2) Read Nachmund Data requires an Infantry unit, however the Tetras are good for Engage points, as they are a very cheap vehicle.
Also as this is pre-nerf I'm surprised you didn't mention the air fragmentation projectors.
You comparison of the skyray damage output was way off, look at average damage not max damage potential (which will never happen with the skyray). Average shots is 3 per skyray, average damage per damage roll is 4 compared to the max 6 you mentioned. skyray has lower strength and ap so is less likely to get the hit through. Overall skyray does less damage than the railgun, however it has a nice stratagem to fire out of line of sight (well it was good pre balance dataslate nerf to indirect).
Would be great to see what you think how things change after the balance dataslate update.
The seeker missile strat is unaffected by the indirect nerf. The indirect nerf affects weapons that have the ability to shoot without LoS. Seeker missiles lack that rule, the strategem allow them to shoot without LoS but the weapon still lack indirect fire rule.
@@eldoriath1 With the stratagem is the weapon firing at a target it does not have LoS to ? If yes it falls under the balance dataslate rules about weapons that fire at targets they do not have line of sight to.
@@rmgaminguk7079
I would say it doesn't because the rule has a way of defining what and indirect weapon is. The strategem is what allows the weapon to fire outside LoS, not the weapon. So the weapon has no rules to fire outside LoS, which is how an indirect fire weapon is classified.
"INDIRECT FIRE WEAPONS
An Indirect Fire weapon is one that can target units that
are not visible to the bearer (e.g. mortars, smart-missile
systems, impaler cannons, etc.). If such a weapon targets
a unit that is not visible (i.e. no models in a target unit
are visible to the firing unit when you selected it as a
target), then each time an attack is made with that weapon
against that target this phase, worsen the Ballistic Skill
characteristic of that attack by 1 and add 1 to any armour
saving throws made against that attack."
But I do appreciate this would need some form of FAQ. But for me it's clear that the strategem is unaffected because the weapon can't fire outside LoS beside from this strategem.
@@eldoriath1 The balance dataslate doesn't affect an indirect fire weapon. It affect any shooting which is firing at a target it can not see.
Show up, roll dice, win.
Vespids in 6man to drop and do actions. For 72pts
Too bad now the skyray sucks because of the new rules.
GW tackled all the wrong things with this faction
I hope GW nerf Tau soon some of this stuff is nuts
Cry and cope more 😗
Good vid guys but dam is it outdated.
Lmao
Northern knights gaming?
I thought it said north Korean gaming xD
Ps u guys rock
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