to be honest leo is a nice all round char like they should be.. no clear cut weakness and no over powering strength , just how i like it. i dont want a leo thats as strong as julia in t7 . i want a char i can play thats strong but not flat out busted or pay to win. leo is a true tekken character in my opinion
I main Leo and to be fair he has some busted moves that probably need toning down. His 50/50 at the wall will actually kill you. Like for instance FC df3 with Heat Burst into wall combo will take like half HP. That combined with his deadly wall splatting mids are just insanity.
I had the same thoughts about b11+2. I'm definitely gonna see way more bok2 counter hits. Some characters are gonna be able to punish it in way more threatening ways than others but for the most part, I think putting a gap there is good for the mind game
After I saw you do 3 b3, 1s against Joey Fury until it connected I knew that move was gonna get an examination. Honestly Leo didn't catch too many strays this patch, no character really did. I wonder if the game is "ready" for the first major/ TWT event.
I find b1,1+2 to still be one of my favorite move. The delay, bok cancel and all, its still a very reliable tornado option in combos and it also gives a very clean wall splat when ending combos near walls. It will connect when b14 would not!
despite the nerfs, i still genuinely believe Leo is one of the most well rounded characters on the roster, doesn't have any real weakness Us Leo players are eating good 👌
@@QuintessenceHD that simply isn’t true my friend, I spent a good amount of time in the lab, and you can very reliably get 80+ damage on Launchers even without counter hits, the damage and wall travel is legit one of Leo’s biggest strengths Hopkick and df2 can still give you high 60’s/ low 70’s too, which is also very good 👌 Although yes, quite a few moves are lackluster with tracking
Or you can be Jin and just parry or counter every option Leo has. Jin and Feng are basically impossible to face if they know what they're doing and they understand what Leo can do. You have to switch to a defensive style and just hope to punish or whiff punish or get some kinda lucky counter hit. Don't know any other matchup like that in the game.
I think its just so frustrating to get knowledge checked for half your hp and then be at disadvantage. I wish they'd raise the max health so i have time to adjust. Matches feel like a coin flip at this point
Wouldn't go that far. A good character for sure but not great. It does make sense that the b1 2 got nerfed. It was a fantastic move amid a bunch of not so great moves. Leo is supposed to be a good all rounder, though. Works fine in that regard.
I wish they would change d1 back to a ch launcher and d2 back to a ch knockdown. Having to wait all the way for 21frames to poop out a safe mid ch launcher is way too slow. Even at +9 you can't even safely frame trap into a safe mid ch launcher. Not fair they took Leo's d1 ch launch away when it wasn't an OP move or anything. But at the same time Jin f4 and the whole character is way better and he got back his super easy conversion.
Hi Ayo! first of all i’m a big fan and i’ve been investing alot of time in practice and notice db2, 4. as hit confirmable save heat engager with high duck properties. Pls check it and share your opinion 👍🏻🙏
B 1,1+2 is unusable now except combos. People can just d4 it, it beats every option. But what is even worse is b1 is the same -12 like wtf. Lili for example has glide 1,2 and glide 2,3+4 all faster, same reach mid mid all safe and catch sidestep. Can someone explain why some are safe some not? And why are people saying b3,1,2 is hit confirmable? The 2 is not confirmable? The mind game doesn’t exist if you can just hit leo out of stance.
D4 leaves your opponent at -4 after using, the situation is very much in you favour after that if they opt for that, the real problem is i12 mids that hit every option
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to be honest leo is a nice all round char like they should be.. no clear cut weakness and no over powering strength , just how i like it. i dont want a leo thats as strong as julia in t7 . i want a char i can play thats strong but not flat out busted or pay to win. leo is a true tekken character in my opinion
I main Leo and to be fair he has some busted moves that probably need toning down. His 50/50 at the wall will actually kill you. Like for instance FC df3 with Heat Burst into wall combo will take like half HP. That combined with his deadly wall splatting mids are just insanity.
Her damage is busted the combo damage is her clear strength
@heyitsameyourdad4084 il try that. Leo has always been string at the wall, she had the most safe mid walls splats in tekken 7 of any other character
Fatalis made a video about i12 mids as an option select vs b11+2. Characters with CH i12 mids are especially problematic.
Leos b1,1+2 is trash now there’s no way around it.
Some i12 mids get crushed by bok stance and launched
I had the same thoughts about b11+2. I'm definitely gonna see way more bok2 counter hits. Some characters are gonna be able to punish it in way more threatening ways than others but for the most part, I think putting a gap there is good for the mind game
After I saw you do 3 b3, 1s against Joey Fury until it connected I knew that move was gonna get an examination. Honestly Leo didn't catch too many strays this patch, no character really did. I wonder if the game is "ready" for the first major/ TWT event.
He's still super strong, just unexpected he actually got a nerf
When xiaoyu and Jun exist right😂
Vampire Killer. Nice.
I love Leo, my favorite char. But let’s be honest she’s mid af and a million miles from top tier
Pog castlevania. I think these are buffs because it creates incentive to interact with Leo. Before there wasn’t a good reason to.
Leo is still my favorite character. I fought a good Leo after the nerfs and that Leo put the hurting on me
I find b1,1+2 to still be one of my favorite move. The delay, bok cancel and all, its still a very reliable tornado option in combos and it also gives a very clean wall splat when ending combos near walls. It will connect when b14 would not!
despite the nerfs, i still genuinely believe Leo is one of the most well rounded characters on the roster, doesn't have any real weakness
Us Leo players are eating good 👌
Leo has dogshit tracking and low end combo damage, that is leo's weaknesses.
@@QuintessenceHD that simply isn’t true my friend, I spent a good amount of time in the lab, and you can very reliably get 80+ damage on Launchers even without counter hits, the damage and wall travel is legit one of Leo’s biggest strengths
Hopkick and df2 can still give you high 60’s/ low 70’s too, which is also very good 👌
Although yes, quite a few moves are lackluster with tracking
Can i dickjab instead of generic low? This char has confused me since t7 so i dont really know which options to lab
aw cmon dang it
Glad to see the notations is better this video, last Leo video's notation is atrocious
Or you can be Jin and just parry or counter every option Leo has. Jin and Feng are basically impossible to face if they know what they're doing and they understand what Leo can do. You have to switch to a defensive style and just hope to punish or whiff punish or get some kinda lucky counter hit. Don't know any other matchup like that in the game.
Bruh you never have to worry about the parries when you have the low kit of leo.
@@desgyulabalogh3429 Jin and Feng destroy lows..
not with their parries tho@@coreykuehl8519
Thank you for your hard work 🙏
Thanks!
Maybe post ranked highlights
Im loving this game but im assss
Get practicing lad, online replay is your friend🫡
I think its just so frustrating to get knowledge checked for half your hp and then be at disadvantage. I wish they'd raise the max health so i have time to adjust. Matches feel like a coin flip at this point
Leo is still super strong 👏🏻
Wouldn't go that far. A good character for sure but not great. It does make sense that the b1 2 got nerfed. It was a fantastic move amid a bunch of not so great moves. Leo is supposed to be a good all rounder, though. Works fine in that regard.
Why would they try to nerf leo, if anything he needs buffs lol
I wish they would change d1 back to a ch launcher and d2 back to a ch knockdown.
Having to wait all the way for 21frames to poop out a safe mid ch launcher is way too slow.
Even at +9 you can't even safely frame trap into a safe mid ch launcher.
Not fair they took Leo's d1 ch launch away when it wasn't an OP move or anything. But at the same time Jin f4 and the whole character is way better and he got back his super easy conversion.
I love landing d2 on hit and having my followup d2 sidestepped🤣🤣
Hi Ayo! first of all i’m a big fan and i’ve been investing alot of time in practice and notice db2, 4. as hit confirmable save heat engager with high duck properties. Pls check it and share your opinion 👍🏻🙏
That string is amazing but I think under pressure can be a scary move to attempt sometimes
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B 1,1+2 is unusable now except combos. People can just d4 it, it beats every option. But what is even worse is b1 is the same -12 like wtf. Lili for example has glide 1,2 and glide 2,3+4 all faster, same reach mid mid all safe and catch sidestep. Can someone explain why some are safe some not? And why are people saying b3,1,2 is hit confirmable? The 2 is not confirmable? The mind game doesn’t exist if you can just hit leo out of stance.
D4 leaves your opponent at -4 after using, the situation is very much in you favour after that if they opt for that, the real problem is i12 mids that hit every option
issat a fake harada tweet? 😂 editor going strong with the clickbait
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I made it into a Richie video 😂🔥🔥🔥
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Harada took one look at Forsen's stream and decided Leo was just too strong.
Forsen Leo too strong
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