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It got worse overtime. People are overreacting to garner attention to what’s going on as people rarely listen to sensational news outside of a mainstream media outlet or it happens right outside of their doorstep. The west hasn’t fallen, yet. It’s losing its balance though
@@roy_for_real2674 Dude 40 years ago NYC was in the depths of a terrible cr*ck epidemic and was one of the m*rder capitals of the world lol. The Bronx looked like an actual war zone.
@@waterisbased The thing with that kind of propaganda is that you have a handful of groups, be it adversarial governments like Russia and China are to most western nations, homegrown extermist groups, or even a mix of both working together when their goals coincide, purposefully propagating ideas to create further divison within a nation's population and destabilize their current government, impeding on their ability to follow with their current foreign policies, weakening their position within the nation's political horizon, etc... Nowadays it often takes the form of waves of social media posts, using bots or actual humans, which is then, unknowingly or not, parroted by people influenced by them, which, akin to dominos, results in even more people being influenced by that propaganda campaign and doing the same. In the end, the talking points made for that propaganda campaign end up so entangled in the public perception that you need to go through painstaking efforts, lasting years if not decades, to clear out the misconceptions on a wide enough scale for these talking points to die out. But, unfortunately, the people who benefit from these propaganda campaigns don't just wait for the previous talking points to die out before putting new ones out, making for an impossible battle to win. All that to say, we shouldn't underestimate the sheer amount of actual humans who fall victim to the waves of bots and unknowingly spread all that nonsense further. We may have seen a recrudescence of Russian bots in the last decade, but they, despite being instigators, still only make up a small portion of the overall discussion. In the end, resuming it all to them mostly being bots only reinforces the position victims of these propaganda campaigns hold, as they inevitably feel attacked whenever someone says that "most people", which is mostly interpreted as "all" rather than "big subset" by the human brain, who hold similar views to them are all bots. The goal shouldn't be to indirectly reinforce the propaganda, but to weaken it.
the west has fallen my neighbor is gay no!!!!! please dont be gay near me! it'll make me gay1!!! rahhh!!! i dont have any charges against me no!!!111!1! im moving to tajikistan!!!!
@@TurtleChad1oh its bad they teach lgbt instead of christianity in some schools + they are letting in more migrants and that is the reason west will destroy itself
And I've heard people in some of these countries like Bali, Thailand or Vietnam get annoyed at these immigrants too, especially with all the Russians/Ukrainians after the war, moving in general causes some difficulties
Central europe be like "sorry my English is not so good" Also them: - Aced the CPE in grade 6 - Taught English in America - Wrote a literary analysis theisis on Shakespeare - Wrote a New York Times best seller
Meanwhile me a Arab: English isnt my first language so excuse my grammatical mistakes *meanwhile I just finished English first language IGCSE with ease* You see its not just Europeans, its pretty much the whole world that say their English isnt good even though they are more comprehensible and speak better more clearer English that native speakers.
@@hishamalaker491 English is pretty much required to land any job, if your competitors know even just a speck more of English than you it’s guaranteed they’ll be hired before you even if you are better at your profession. That’s why most people in the world know English very well, because we are taught from a very young age (I’m mexican)
@@hishamalaker491I like that you claim that you would say to people that your English isn’t that good, and at the same time claiming that it’s better than that of English natives. Now which is it? Are you humble or arrogant.
You are right about that the west definitely hasn’t fallen and that a lot of the people on the internet are making it seem way worse than it actually is. With that being said I think the west has a lot of problems that it needs to address in order to remain dominant and many people on the internet like to focus just on the problems because they are from first world countries and are therefore are used to a high standard of living that seems crazy to foreigners from less developed countries. Edit: idk where you found that the US education is the best it the world but other than that great video
The us education is terrible, its just that it's the least terrible Life is hard everywhere, they say it's better here and it is but with no perspective of why it's better people will focus on what's not the best and start to believe it's the worst like you and gattsu and everyone says, it would be awesome if these conversations spawned debate on solutions and not just debates on who better understands how fucked up it is
Gattsu sees himself as political liberal in the US-American sense, maybe because of his strong dislike against Russian propaganda ("the west is so bad everything is better here") and the corruption and double standards of "non-bureaucratic right wing" politicians. Therefore he often does not want to take the existence of problems, that are often brought up by conservative or right leaning people, serious. Here is the thing: He could see gender obsession (hormones for children, gender-affirming surgery payed by health insurance, everyone can choose their pronoun...) as problematic and still not fall for Russian propaganda against gay people. He could see the problems of de-industrialization and still be for a greener planet. He could see the problems with different VISA systems, but also see why VISAs are necessary. He could acknowledge problems with Islamism in France and Belgium imported through migration and still be for religious freedom. But his videos are sadly always very one sided ("I made vacation in Paris and there were no big problems for me. Andrew Tate is a sex offender. The west has not fallen.").
Yeah ppl do say oh west bad all they want yes it’s not all sunshine and rainbows there are legitimate issues with it but ppl bitch and moan about the way they have it (in my opinion) because they haven’t experienced what’s it’s actually like to live in a shithole country
Seeing a lot of criticism in the comment section. There are some points that I agree with, but I think for me the reason why western europe is so fascinating for eastern europeans is sense of security and how well state functions. I’m Georgian as well, I love my country and I understand that it’s safer and more prosperous than most of developing post-soviet states, but constant economic and political crisis, lack of opportunities, region that is a literal geopolitical time-bomb and neighboring goddamn Russia that constantly wants to invade you and conquer you feels like a way more significant problem and threat for existence itself than some riots and dirty hoods. Countries like this feel like sitting on a keg full of explosives, even though we are not dying of hunger.
გათსუ არის ნაციონალი პრო-ევროპელი რომელსაც დღემდე სჯერა რომ ევროპა იდეალურია და მინუსები არ აქვს მაგრამ როცა ეუბნებიან რომ ჰეი ევროპას ბევრი პრობლემა არა ლეგალური მიგრანტები, ეკონომიკური კრიზის და მაღალი ფასები პროდუქტზე ის პასუხობს იმით რომ "პარიზის ტურისტულ ნაწილში ვიყავი და მანდ ყველაფერი მაგრადააააააააა თქვენ ყველა შტერები ხართ მე ჭკვიანი"
its very true, the West is like an utopia for a lot of Eastern Europeans, but i dont 100% agree with that statement. it has its own, kinda more different set of problems, but its not the simple existence of Muslims/Blacks in there that ruins it. rather its the arrogance of Western people, if they actually experienced a month in our countries they'd be thankful.
@@CFRTrainSpotterYou're making western people out to all think like the Americans quite frankly the muslims are a problem islam is fundamentally incompatible with western ideals. And the west bends over backwards to appease them Sweden had quran burnings now they're looking into blasphemy laws brittain had Rotherham. The problem is Eastern Europeans aren't compatible either if you look at my country the host workers aren't learning the native language, cause problems mostly due to being intoxicated and pollute the streets like no other. Not all problems stem from immigration but it is a problem.
Security in the west doesn't exist. If you're french a muslim can behead it's teacher for teaching him laicity, and 30% of the population would say " the teacher deserve it ". Migrants are never punished for their crimes, never forced to leave the territory Whenever a black or arabic person gets shot by the police while committing a crime, there is race riots and whole cities burning You get heavier prison sentences for wrongthink than for actually assaulting people You guys just don't live here. You've never had to face our justice system, nor our administrative or health system. It all sounds good on paper but try living in France a year.
Ive lived in multiple countires for multiple years including berlin and paris and i can tell you from first hand experience that they are both awesome compared to most places in the world. Rent is fucked but if you are educated you get payed a shit ton aswell. So for people wanting to live in a major city they are great.
I live in Germany in a state with pretty high immigrant population, it's pretty clean, has good job opportunities and is safe only bad thing is rent in Cities.
Nah, France is a pretty cool country to live in as well. The healthcare is great, supermarkets rock, education system is brilliant, transport system rules and they’ve got cultural coming out of their asses. Im personally not into capital cities but people in Paris have a great lifestyle.
@@Whatshisname346 Not everything is perfect. I heard some pretty bad stories about studying medicine in France. And there are a lot of problems with the culture in my opinion (when it comes to unity, trust, honor and humbleness). But it is of cause a way better place to live in then a lot of other countries.
I have been told that about every country I go to and it is true. Even here in America, if you arent Germanic, Finnish or Japanese, Life will probably be better for you in America than it would be in the land of your ancestors. Even if you had a great time visiting
@@linuxman7777 "if you arent Germanic, Finnish or Japanese, Life will probably be better for you in America" LMAO what a moronic statement. Such an arbitrary Reddit grouping. You're talking about ~200 million people in several different countries with very different cultures and societal expectations. Quality of life depends on the individual. Their preferences, hobbies, skills, education, financials, religion, etc etc. There are South Africans, Egyptians, Vietnamese, Saudi Arabians that have "better" lives than they would in America. There are people from Switzerland, Finland, Japan that have emigrated to America and say their lives are better. This isn't binary.
Also, this whole thing about the French riots are unfounded. Yes, a police killing sparked African outrage, whos response was terrible. However people seem to have forgotten this EXACT SAME THING HAPPENED OVER 10 YEARS AGO IN LONDON. The 2011 riots were insane, scary, and would have been deemed "west has fallen" if they happened today. Soon after, arrests were made, people carried on as normal.
The only time the "X has Fallen" comments were warranted was cus of BLM. Not even cus of racism or anything. Litterally just cus it was mostly white people who used it as an excuse to riot and pull goofy shit.
Every country has issues, but the french especially like to ramble on about events and as usual the media always tries to maximize viewers , then it gets twisted by american/foreign media. As someone from a developping country in Africa who has lived in both europe and north america, it is very interesting to see how major the perspective differences are.
As a french we french people are literally insane and complain and complain and make everything seem way worse than it actually is. Also the police officer told the kid to stop moving or he'll shoot, guess what the kid did.
I'm pretty sure it's a "grass is greener on the other side" type thing. Both the east and west have benefits and detriments to living there but it's difficult for a person who lives in one to understand the struggles of someone who lives in the other. He's certainly overlooking a lot of problems about the west but most "the west has fallen" type guys are overlooking most problems in the east because they've never experienced them first hand. Overall as a westerner i have to say the west's problems aren't so bad that I would rather live in Mongolia or something. All places in the world are flawed so it's pretty dumb to think that the west is falling because it's not a Utopia (although i don't really see the west getting any better in the future due to the decreasing birth rates and other problems)
To be fair, you're only going to capitals. I live in Scotland and we're completely ignored by the government in England. We have the highest drug death rate in the entire world, 4x higher than any other european country, we have one of the highest suicide rates in the world. The entire country is decaying.
True though when people say "the west has fallen" they don't say that because of the government being shit they say that because minorities and progressive policies when that isn't the case.
@@tauempire1793yeah i completely agree, it just agitates me when people act like everything in all of western europe is great. i would generally rather live in many eastern european countries than here, we have so many social problems and we are worst in the entire world in many of them.
@@thevis5465I get that tbh, tho I personally wouldn't live in Eastern Europe myself. But I agree it isn't perfect but as people say "the grass is greener on the other side"
@@tauempire1793 Western governments are replacing indigenous European populations against their will, and suppressing any attempt to resist it through language policing and hate speech laws. The media also inseminates negative ideas in the minds of Europeans (exclusively Europeans) that defending your own is wrong, while simultaneously supporting non-European racialist movements like BLM.
I went to Berlin myself recently and even if my German friends said its a shithole, i did actually find it pretty neat. But i guess its for a different reason, mainly because capital cities are almost always disliked by the people who live outside them. I also was mostly in the central area, cus i didnt have the time to visit the hoods.
Not really. I live in Vancouver and I say the same about Vancouver, even tho it aint a "capital city". Shit mostly runs on cycles. Its a shithole for like 10 years straight, and then everybody wisens up and it turns into a great city again. But then they get complacent and it turns back into a shithole. Same story with NYC and SanFrancisco in the 90s
Im german. What plays into this is also regionalism. People from Düssesorf for example will tell you that Köln/Cologne is a shithole and that people from cologne eating their own babys or worse, arent able to brew beer. The cities are connected via a bridge. You walk 5 min and you are in enemy territory.
Bro wtf, Berlin is fucking fire. I don't think your friend's opinions are actually based on their own experiences, probably just inhereted hate from rural boomers.
yeah but over here its even worse, they make it public, they dont just silently make you dissapear, they put you on stage and frame you as this demon who did the worst thing on earth, For example "Espionage" when you are in reality just a journalist who recieved whistleblower intel and was allowed by law to publicize it because of free speech laws, Talking about Julian assange, guy got called out for "Espionage" even though he was just a journalist and got life in prison, Same with Donald trump today, who is facing life in prison over paying a prostitute not to talk about what they did in the white house which is just a small misdemeanor, when Hunter biden literally has a over 200 page document showcasing all the crimes he did with Joe Biden himself with piles and piles of evidence, Aswell as being seen with coke under his nostrals recently and acting rather weird/twitchy on footage@@uh8705
for now .. but russia sooner of later will have the biggest economy by far in europe and richest country... justbecause they tons or nat.resources @@Xyrulis
Gattsu, visiting a place is a lot more different from having to live in a place, hence why you thought Paris was good. You don't have to deal with the BS on a daily basis nor can compare how the quality of life has changed over the years. Mexico is a nice place for Americans and Europeans to visit on vacation, but it isn't some tropical paradise to my side of the family having to live there
Idk man I'd take a city with world class public transit, high quality of life and actually drinkable tap water with all its imperfections and housing problems over living in a developing country anyday, and I say that as a fairly nationalistic person.
@panslavicgugo8479 bro, you literally contradict yourself. “Italy has one of the worst education systems in Europe” and “the only reason that I’m here is for my studies”. But you still choose to study there and not in your home country, maybe Italian education isn’t that bad after all??
I live in Sweden and… yeah. The west hasn’t “fallen” per say but my country has gone from the model welfare state to having a daily shooting. I live in a pretty peaceful small neighbourhood, a family got shot up nearby and three of them died also one of my old classmates got executed in a gang conflict aswell, Also Brussels. The reason is obviously not “duh duh black people” but it’s definitely correlated to the imigration crisis. The west is still good, incredibly good in fact, but it’s definitely on the decline especially if you live here. Housing market, crime and we swedes are going into a recession.
@@seedad117 it is pretty sad. I think the worst part is that we can’t offer safety from people who actually come here to work and so on anymore. I knew a immigrant man who had worked his ass of to set up a shop on the block where I live, a few months back he got robbed in the shop at gun point.
I live in South America, and I know the first world countries have their problems, but damn, it's terrible when someone from US or Europe start to live here and make content saying that this is the best place in the world. It's easy like this place when you are paid in Dollars or Euros
The entirety of South America is a cesspool because it's a criminal empire. The whole continent of America is cursed safe for Canada. But know that you are one of the more extreme example. There are definitely places that foreigners would consider heaven, without it being a complete lie. Southeast Asia usually. Not developed, but low crime and friendly culture. Problem usually is with brain drain and some areas with unkempt infrastructure.
Precisely. At least you're smart enough enough see through these vloggers and their nonsense. People from developing countries, especially ones that were colonised, have a weird obessession with getting approval from vloggers from 'richer' nations. As such, they will create the content that you describe for clicks.
@@SamRoberts-ng3pu Don't make it more complicated than it is bud. It's not an obsession, more like an attraction. And you know why it is, a very simple concept.
Yeah, the same thing can be said about the whole world. And conditions are not decreasing *_everywhere_* in the west. Many smaller and medium sized cities are booming and better than ever, even though the big major cities are going through some problems (yet despite the big major cities problems, they are still doing very well over all, just they maybe arent at their all time best, but every place has its ups and downs).
@@nicklibby3784 i mean of course small town are doing good they always do good because blue politicians don’t win there, but when talking about the west as a whole or any large swath of territory the best way to gauge the condition of the political system and health of the society is by analyzing the major population centers and as we’ve seen in recent years the cities are getting worse and if the majority population centers of the west are falling is it not a fair assessment that the whole of the west is going down with the ship
Gattsu, I like some of your content, but if your idea of having "boots on the ground" is being a tourist in a certain country for a couple days, I have to burst your bubble. Tourism, like you clearly mentioned in another one of your videos, is meant to portray the best image of your country, kinda like North Korean tour guides do by explicitly telling you not to dig up all the dirt there is. This video is full of anecdotes so let's ground ourselves with some facts: birthrates are falling in the west, communities are disappearing, trust is falling, the increase in suicide is higher, the average young adult has no hopes for the future, in part because of the culture and in large part because it has become impossible for new generations to even dream about owning a house of their own. I have lived in both the west and in third world. In the third world, I could buy a house without a mortgage, and while it is not much, it is something I could call my own. I have cousins who are in their 20s, already have children and live in their own house. And that is statistically still the average over there. In the west however, me AND my girlfriend both cannot get a mortgage of 200k Euros (which is not nearly enough to even buy a small apartment) even when both employed on a decent job. There are several valid reasons why one would go live outside of the west today. One thing I agree with you is that women™ is not a valid excuse to escape the west.
@@acex222 Robert D Putnam "Bowling Alone": large study on the decline of community. Price index of real estate looking at Brazil & Argentina (two biggest economies in south america) show 4x lower price per square mile than in the US. Mean childbearing age in the west is 32, South America is 28
@@introspection827 I agree with everything you say, but these comments are sadly going to disappear in the algorithm. Gattsu clearly made it his schtick to portray one side as all being Tate-fanbois, and strawmanning what people who actually live in the West and who don't have rose colored glasses on say. Btw, I'm Belgian, so yeah I live in the West. Brussels isn't a hellhole as Trump portrayed it, but there are areas where you better do not walk at night and even in the touristic spots, women have been harassed considerably more by "new" Belgians than the locals. Both sides are mental: the Tate degenerates, and the Eastern Europeans thinking the West is a beacon of light that has it all figured out.
The west certainly hasnt "Fallen" but its definetaly in decline, i live in the UK - Scotland to be specific, our cost of living is through the roof, we cant pay our workers livable wages, we basically have an unelected prime minister running the country, illegal migration is rampant, our economy is in decline and so is our quality of life. For a tourist to visit the most tourist infested area of a country with the greatest amount tourism globally, ofcourse its gonna seem like heaven.
Yeah I can't believe he misses that. The West hasn't fallen, but the standard of living is falling in some ways, and you won't see it by visiting the best areas.
What pisses me off is that few people say "the west has fallen" the say as you Gentlemen said that it's in decline so the whole videos premise is based on a strawman
This is a global problem that is not exclusive to the west. As someone who has lived in some of the poorest parts of Asia and then moved to well-off (and not so well off) places in North America, you guys have it really good, like genuinely speaking like you’re in the top 5% of the living standard, even with all your problems. Even then, he is not saying that the West is perfect or it’s “heaven” but that mfs degrading it and thinking the middle of nowhere is Central Asia or Eastern Europe is miles better even though they’re living on a high standard with inflated overseas western salaries are insanely hypocritical
I agree with most points but damn, it was not the experience i had when i was in Paris in the beginning of July this year. There were a LOT of homeless people in groups in the center of Paris, I remember one of them shouted at my female friend about something. There was trash everywhere, the more people there were, the more trash I've seen. For me it didn't feel that safe but being with friends made it better. Also at the end of the trip, I was going alone through the metro and some french guy would ask me and some old lady something in french but I told him that I don't speak french in english, later when there wasn't anybody around, the guy walked up to me, started shouting at me in french and was saying "London? London?" He thought that I was british and from what I understood he told me to never come back to Paris and slapped me hard in the face and walked off. It wasn't a very nice experience, and damn, most cashiers in stores didn't speak english at all. Your experience was very different but I cannot relate to it at all.
I have a personal friend who was stabbed in his first hour in Paris outside a Major tourist area because he confronted the guy who was trying to pickpocket him. The their got away and the police said there was nothing they could do. then he had to go to the hospital to get a bunch of shots in case there was other people's diseased blood already on the knife. Later that day he saw a car get set on fire in the middle of the road. I have never in my life seen a car get set on fire in my country.
The west hasnt fallen but it isnt doing that well... How many terrorist attacks have happened in the past 10 years? My uni teacher told me she went to teach at a school in france and there were muslim kids. Once they had a conflict between the kids and their parents came to school and started a fight, they called more relatives to come and join the fight and the police didnt give a fuck. Or a friend of mine went to london and joked about getting stabbed and he fucking did. Another friend of mine studies in london and he says that people are afraid to get out after 18:00 pm and you see dudes with winter jackets and ski masks hanging out, some have weapons on the like katanas. Just because you visited Paris where its the tourist capital itd doesnt mean the situation is good for the rest of the country.
I actually had a friend was falsely accused of sexual assault because he broke up with his girlfriend he went to this private school and then she accused him of sexual assault and they didn't give him a chance to defend himself and then later the girl admitted that she lied but they didn't unexpelled him from the school (im from the getto he the rich one ) love your vids
I grew up in the hood in London and I totally agree. Despite what you hear about the stabbings London is a safe city. It’s not exactly the cleanest city but it doesn’t smell like piss all the time. And the people you’ll meet are great. A lot of negativity is hyped up by the media for attention and for political fear-mongering. A lot of it is pretty racially charged as well. Most of the gang violence stays within the gangs themselves (even though civilians are sometimes sadly accidental victims) The only problem for London is how it’s becoming very expensive and mass gentrification is taking place. Normal working people can’t afford to live here anymore and are moving out. There’s now an exodus of working class former Londoners living outside of London in places like Essex and Kent. There are entire towns on the border of London built just to house these people and they are depressing AF. This also brings the drugs and gangs over to these regions as well. Meanwhile there are entire council estates in central London that are completely empty and are basically run by the gangs. That’s something that the media doesn’t really talk about.
New Orleands and SanFrancisco legitimately does smell like piss though. Anaheim smells like cowshit 24/7, because of how braindead the zoning laws are there.
Agree with you bro. I grew up in Acton and Southall in rough housing situations and now own a lil flat in West Ealing having the time of my life. London is a world class city and full of opportunity. Crime exists but it’s hardly the South Bronx in the 1980s. As long as you are sensible you can mostly avoid any madness.
Numbeo, the statistics website says that crime in Paris is high. But of course, statistics are just stereotypes and conspiracy. Better listen to rap, smoke weed and chill out
I agree it hasn’t fallen but to say there aren’t systemic issues that have been ignored for decades that caused the west to be put in a position of great weakness is undeniable
The guy is literally using charlatans like Andrew Tate who made a profit by using prostitutes to sweet talk desperate sexless men into giving him money. There's literally tens of videos of him explaining that he recruited the sexiest girls he could find, would make them masturbate on cam, while he would text and flirt with the simps on the other side of the screen. Also he's a leftist shitpost channel, yeah he's Eastern European, but still a leftist, take his shit with a grain of salt.
@@noco7243 Being able to have a sense of community, ethnic and religious similarities, not having economic migrants cause riots or hand grenade attacks every month, not having economic migrants be overrepresented in rape, grooming gang, or general violent crimes statistics, being able to have healthy families that all fit in with each other and aren't alienated by roves of foreigners. You know normal things that healthy societies like Singapore, Japan and other countries can afford you.
@@noco7243 bro if you think that defunding the police and letting criminals walk out of stores with stolen goods, having riots every other day or the mutilation of children being legal is not deterioration of the West, then idk what to tell you. But all is fine cause some random Georgian visited France and it was lovely, right?
You're experiencing the same thing Bald is experiencing. It's the best the country/city has to offer and you're experiencing it in a small window of time. It's why you thought Paris was great and why Bald thinks a place like London is shit. You can make a very strong argument for the west being better than the impoverished east, but you're still only experiencing a glimpse of that location. Something comparable would be here in the states many kids run off and attend some university in another state. They might live there for years, but only end up experiencing that city within their college bubble (which is VERY much a bubble). They likely won't have anything bad to say about the larger area/city as a whole, cause they were essentially a tourist. Ask anyone that was born and raised there and you will get a different response.
But to be fair, people living there mostly compare it to other cities that they visit and only see the good parts of, so you won´t really get a good answer out of them either. Most people are just cynical when you ask them how their city is.
Exactly. The argument Gattsu is presenting makes no sense because his view of France compared to Georgia is skewed based on a couple weeks in the nicest part of the country as opposed to a country which literally was at war 15 years ago. A very disingenious image of Western Europe is being painted as being this paradise where everyone of all cultures and creeds live in harmony or some other kumbaya bullshit, but ask the average person who actually lives in these countries (no, it isn't just grifters like Tate who say the West isn't in the best shape) and they'll completely disagree. Especially those in England, France or Germany.
No one is saying Romania is the worst place on earth, what he's trying to say is that the reason why Tate is living in Romania is not because Romania is better than USA, is because Tate is a pedo/rapist running from police. PS: Romania isn't safer than Paris.
Gattsu, my brother in Christ. Our countries being Scheiße year round do not invalidate the natives when they say stuff has gotten worse for them. People would not be as angry as they are for no reason at all. You have become so used to see decadence all around being the norm, that you fail to spot it growing elsewhere. Also being a tourist for a couple days in the best part of a country does not represent it's reality.
the problem is that people are constantly comparing the best of eastern europe with the worst of western europe. "look at how nice warsaw is, and how filthy Berlin is". but no one ever looks at the underdeveloped areas of Poland and compares them to Berlin. no one compares thousands of remote idyllic swedish towns with the underdeveloped semi-soviet backwater areas of Hungary. it always circles back to Capitals, to the big cities, the places where different people collide, because if they did they'd realize that there is a reason why people, from eastern europe to asia, from africa and arabia, keep coming to europe.
@@boarfaceswinejaw4516 I agree, which is why I think this video is misleading. He describes the west as a utopia because of his short trip to Paris. If that's not the epitome of "the grass is greener on the other side", I don't know what is.
@@kiki88561 But the grass is greener, as I moved from developing country to there. I could hardly scrape by at an entry-level engineer job where I from. Here? Got half of the salary left to throw out of the window. Quality of life is better and people are more tolerant (where I'm from, If I get 1$ for everytime a Black person step on a bus and someone started commenting on his skin color, I could buy a sick guitar at the end of the year). There's a reason why brain drain is getting more serious.
@@zannierzan9634 No doubt you're right, I still think the video is incredibly misleading though. Also what did you mean by brain drain getting more serious? What are you talking about, I don't understand
@@kiki88561 Globalisation is making it easier to move to a new country and information is readily available on the internet, plus tons of new incentives for skilled professionals in Europe. Unlike refugees, they wouldn't try to immigrate to a country just because they heard rumor that quality of life is better there.
@@aJamBiscuit I live in Basel, right next to the German and French border, France its more and more scuffed the further you get form Prais due to its centralisitic nature. Paris as a whole is overrated. Cities like Lyon I find much nicer.
While I dont believe the "Vest Has Vallen" , I believe the stereotypes are there for a reason. I live in NYC right now and it is the worst thing I have ever experienced, when I moved to Georgia (the state not country), the vibe, community and everything else was just multitudes better. I think it's less so to do with the country but more so particular parts of the country that are just horrendous.
interesting, i've experienced the opposite. I lived in South Carolina (Spartanburg specifically) from birth till 2 years ago when i turned 28. I moved because I felt there was no real community. I believe that centuries of miserable history, exploitation, and decades of corrupt politics have birthed a people of, terrible pride, hostility, and hatred. It felt like in the South people will smile at you and offer you hospitality, but what lives in their hearts is typically quite different. Now I'm in Hartford CT, and the community and positivity I feel are exponentially higher. Granted, NYC to GA is quite different from SC to CT, but I still find it interesting. Maybe NYC just sucks lol
tbh one thing everyone could agree with is the fact that leaving big cities is a good choice, its been shown in many polls that people living in rural villages are often way way wayyyyy more happy than people who live in big metropolises like new york, san francisco, los angeles, miami, washington. etc, You get the same thing but even better if you move from the US to a rural country like georgia for example where people also uphold culture instead of allowing it to vanish in turn for stuff like lgbtq and all that, like countries that uphold cultures, despite financial issues with many people living there, are usually many times happier than here in the west where most of us have good financial situations (for now
@@valyshknee4203 yep I knew it, I replied to ur comment about uk and how u wished to live in east and ofc "uphold culture instead of allowing it to vanish in turn for stuff like lgbtq" 🤓
Bro visits Paris once and thinks everything in the West is great. Yes you are an entertainer but that's like me saying I was in St. Petersburg once and everything is great there.
I mean St. Petersburg does look pretty dope. I'm sure it's got some issues beyond just being in Russia but still doesn't look that bad. I wouldn't go saying it's anywhere near as good of a place to live as like Boston but it looks decent. If you have a decent ammount of money pretty much anywhere will be fine.
@@xxklesx1why is that? Too overcrowded? Nepotism from russian authorities to solve the simplest issues (cleaning snow from sidewalks during winter) or other stuff?
@@sofiafuentes6727 "did you not watch the video?" okay chump, do you have actually any evidence to disprove these "west fallen" people? not some experience or anecdote but like statistics I think I do have which are all in favor "west fallen" people to quote "A total of 3 039 offenders were included in the analysis. A majority of them were immigrants (n = 1 800; 59.2%) of which a majority (n = 1 451; 47.7%) were born outside of Sweden" or just eyeballing UK has 257 rapes per 100k while France has 64 btw Mexico has 30 just think about it in a way this guy is telling the people of france, people of England, people of Germany that their day to day life is lie. What they experienced is a lie to him rotterdam sex circle where 2000 english little girls of ages under 13 got sexually exploited by bunch of immigrants and authorities knew it but they didn't do a shit because they were afraid of being called "racist"
Paris literally is a shithole with no go zones and trash all over, I know cause I live here. But if you go anywhere but Paris in France it could be lovely.
I went to Germany for a week, and it is very beautiful, however berlin was disgusting, at least in the area I stayed. Poland was beautiful and amazing, and Denmark was unique with interesting history. I'd recommend it
Literally been in Paris just some days ago and I had the exact same expectations as you when you went there. "Not even close as beautiful as in movies or stories portrayed" (just an example) and I was so fucking surprised how beautiful this city is. I have to mention that I was only around in the touristic and probably more weathly areas but still it was a great experience!
My mom went there in may for a weekend and she complained about only one thing: that they couldn't drive inside the city. Outside of that she loved every second of it- she ate some good french food (frog thighs) and drank genuine french wine. But WeAsT has fallen
Tbf thats like every city lmfao. Its like in Hawaii. Sure the ranches and the resorts are amazing. But actually living there is hell cus of the tourism and the house prices.
I went to Disneyland and saw a bunch of ghettos on the way my friends in the car where Muslims even they thought it was bad it reminded them of their home country but worse.
@@UserOfTheName My gripes stand more in line with not being able to safely walk outside during the night. The economy can be fixed culture is more difficult
i live in a conservative third world country, and if u have a lot of money here, you will live an amazing life, way better than working class and even rich people in western countries because everything here is cheaper and the nature is beautiful, but if u dont have a lot of money u will live a horrible difficult life, while middle class or working people in the west still manage to live comfortable and respectable life, thats the difference between the west and the east
It depends. If you mean "cheap" is going to a stinky unsanitized market full of flies then no. The grocery store that's owned by big retail companies in third-world countries is good as in first-world countries but it's more expensive for the third-world middle class.
@@UnknownOverwatchSoldier there’s no such thing as unsanitary markets where I’m from, even the cheap markets are very well taken care of, and yes the big markets here are the sam prices as in western countries unfortunately, but people here don’t get paid as well as people in the west
you said it yourself. the reason the west is expensive is because almost everyone in those countries have a stable and equal income unlike eastern countries where 1% of the population makes millions while the rest lives in poverty
@@riograndedosulball248 I don't think the video was meant to show that though, just that you should let some Tiktok videos let you distract from how different the bars are, and think one is better due to a rather negligible reason.. He makes it pretty clear in the video that it is aimed at people who have never been to these countries and only consume these videos, not the actual inhabitants. They already know what life there is like.
You've lived your entire life with everything you need I literally cannot comprehend how you find the energy to complain as if you were just born. Childish.
You are just as guilty of this as they are tho. You came as a tourist the footage there of the Netherlands is in the city center of Amsterdam by the looks of it not in the bijlmer or maybe Rotterdam-Zuid or hell Kanaleneiland Utrecht. I can use the same logic here tho i didn't get assaulted at my visits of Kiev, Chelyabinsk, st Petersburg or Moscow. Belgrade was one of the cleanest cities i have seen when compared to western cities. The priest in Dubrovnik Croatia that married me and my wife as a surprise (we where both visiting i didn't marry an easyern european mail order bride incase that gets thrown around) helped me with the arrangements and keeping it a secret for my wife that we would be marrying there. I could walk around Budapest city center take a video and go "wow this place is a paradise" just as easily. Culturally there are problems tho you talk about the LGBT because youre expecting the poor oppressed ones yet i come from the country where they legalized gay marriage first but apperently that still isn't enough and the gay people in my personal life oppose the pride parades, tell me what's so great about men in fetish gear walking in front of children? Tolerance going too far is about as much of an issue as no tolerance at all as people tend to take an arm when given a finger.
Gattsu goes to a country with the largest amounts of tourism per year in the world and is surprised how he had a good tourist experience. Proceeds to make his rosy tourist picture the basis of the societal structure of the collective west, admitting that you haven't been outside the tourist Disneyland and seen how normal people live. I ain't hating, I love tourism, nor do I think the West has fallen™. But I think it's dishonest to paint a picture of a society spanning dozens of countries by visiting the most touristy country of the world. P.S. My favourite tourist destination was 10 days in Georgia (Kutaisi, Borjomi, Tbilisi & bumfuck nowhere villages. ❤WizzAir❤)
>visits during tourism season >"LOOK GUISES PARIS - A TOURISTIC HOTSPOT - IS WAYYY CLEANER THAN THE INTERNET MAKES IT UP TO BE" yeah it's not like their local economy depends on being able to shove aside problems like the homeless and gangs. Paris police has compared trying to control those last ones as a "secret war".
ill say this lets be straight i live in jamaica i know people who have lived in europe for protracted periods of time(including in the hood) and ill just say this according to every singlke one of them they would rather live theyre than in jamaica even if you just compare the hoods from each country compare mitte berlin to tivoli gardens jamaica and youll get what im saying
I went to Paris back in 2015 and it was indeed completely busted. The city center did smell like sewers, it was indeed dirty af, trash everywhere, had homeless kids wandering around asking for food and money in stores & restaurants, literally stumbled upon a Hollywood-tier police car chase. Though I believe you, they might’ve got their stuff together ever since I’ve visited it. I’ve traveled to London a year later, back in 2016, and everything was super pristine.
no, they haven't. It's more or less the same. I guess this guy doesn't travel a lot, and when you come from Georgia things just seem a lot better than they are
@@cia5649 it depends. They are still waaay better off than most of the world, but they are going down. But Paris itself is way overrated. Go to Barcelona
bro I have lived here my entire life, and its good (im middle class). Some of you complain about everything you see online and act as if that shit happens in real life. Get a life little bro
Gattsu is out here unable to understand what culture is. The West is deteriorating, and calling all these people ped*s will not validate your opinions on the bigger matters. The West was completely unrivalled in the past, but over the years it has fallen from that state. Maybe for a poor dude from Georgia it doesn't mean anything, but for ITS people, it's their home. You haven't lived in France or any Western country it seems, or had parents who helped build that foundation for a better future, but love to brag bout merely visiting them. Life is expensive and difficult here for many nowadays, and there are problems beyond your comprehension. If Canada ever does accept your visa application for you to live and work here, maybe you'll start to understand what those problems are when in practice. When people complain about the West falling, most everyday people I know aren't even thinking about some third-world country which no one here cares about. There's a reason that like 8/10 people you stop on the streets here would not be able to point out Ukraine on a map. We simply don't give a sh*t. We got our own lives here from OUR ancestors before, and opening the gates to (majority) less educated immigrants to increase competition is stressful, and creates feelings of unease in most well-established communities here already.
Yup, kinda rich for a tourist from the armpit of Europe to claim he knows more than the natives after spending a few days in the tourist traps. Of course when compared to Georgia everything in the West is better because of the comparatively poorer standard of living in his country, but those of us who still remember what the West was like in the 90s or early 2000s can see the deteriorations.
The west has fallen, the idea thst Oklahoman is the same man as Parisian is dead and gone. I can say young dudes cant seem to find a girl in their own countires due to a perverse dating market. Much of this is due to dating apps and a shallow culture and there should be a discussion about toxic dating culture and toxic femininity. Its necessary to address the toxic nu males in the room but we shouldn't let toxic women off the hook either.
As a german i can promis you we have a lot of refugees running around and commiting crimes, just stay a couple of months in a major city here and you will see for yourself
perhaps what people means is "the west could be better." Although not the west, my part of Japan is literally like a third world country and I hate it so much here. We used to have a better economy, now you can't even make $2000 entry level when graduating in a college degree in my prefecture (remote island.) Everyone drinks and nomikais, and if youre not an alcoholic its hard for dating/work/friendship. So I cope and seethe by looking at how we were different at one point, and sometimes I feel like moving to SEA on a USD income, similar to what youre doing in georgia someone please get me the hell out of northern japan
Yeah I forget what it's called but there's a name for the common phonomonon when people travel for the first time and think everything in the new place is way better then it is because of rose covered glasses. I also think the whole "le west has fallen" thing is silly but Paris is a horrible example that place is an actual flaming dumpster fire of a society compared to most English/dutch speaking countries.
Fr. Bro went to a literal tourist city and said how great the country is. I'm sure if a person went to see the mountains for a day in Georgia, they would also say how nice the country is. Living in said country is a different story...
If you've grown up outside of the West, you start to appreciate the West far more. So many Westerners have only lived in the West and like so it's easy to see everything wrong with your local environment without realizing how much worse it can actually be. You neve know how good you have it till it's gone. It's like people in my Nordic country complain about poverty, when poverty here means that you have an apartment, a bed, money to buy food from the government, and access to healthcare and education for free. But you can't go drink in bars, or eat out in restaurants, so it's considered poverty. Meanwhile, I used to live in a country where thousands people literally lived in "homes" made out of trash and had to wash themselves in dirty water from the city. That was their poverty. People just don't understand the difference.
@@AK-jm1sc I understand your point but this guy thinks that everything West Europe nations do is Flowers and Roses and also how he knows everything about a place he just visit as a Tourist for just a few days.
If you disagree with the statement the west has fallen (or is failing) you need to seriously come and live here for a number of years (15 for me in the UK), deal with the everyday crap, see how it's all going downhill and then you'll understand what people mean because right now you haven't got a fucking clue. A two week stay in a hotel in Paris isn't going to tell you the truth or show you the bigger picture and speaking of France, look at the farmers protesting currently and throwing literal shit over government buildings. We've clearly peaked here in the west.... Edit: A lot of US Citizens would struggle to find Europe, let alone Georgia on a map but sure they have the best education system in the world 🤣 I know you want that Visa bro but seriously, be more subtle about it
I do believe that people are overacting that the west is "falling." However, I do believe that it is in decline and some guy visiting a tourism hotspot in western Europe saying how great it is gives me the same vibes as some guy visiting Dubai and saying how nice the middle east is.
you've clearly never been to the middle east. it's really not that bad, its not hell. its rather normal, just people drive motorcycles instead of cars since thats too expensive and more apartments plus the middle east is so much more than saudi arabia
@@stray8468 No, I haven't but I know not all of the middle East is nice like Dubai and not all of the West is safe like the tourist parts. I agree though, the much of the middle East is nice.
@@thecosmos729it's funny because usually it's the exact opposite, tourist hotspot = bad, the rest of the other countries are good Edit: also, there's really nothing wrong with going into tourist hotspot, really at the end of the day, it's depends on the context and you, the individual. I lived in Bali, another well known tourist hotspot, and you can go there and think the rest of indonesia is like it, because honestly, it kinda does, though I will recommend you to go outside of the big cities if you want to truly experience it
@@thecosmos729Edit: I also disagree with the whole "the west is in decline", because if that's the case, the entire world is in decline. Honestly, I have never been to the west before, but just like gatsu, i didn't have the privilege to be born in those countries, I think people who said things like this are just pessimists, doomers, or people who are not really grateful. I can see why people would think like it, but every countries have their own ups and downs, no countries are perfect, life sucks life hard, sometimes you just need to slip through the cracks, and sometimes, it's all depends on the individual on how they can get themselves out of a really shitty situation
This. I loved Canada when I moved in. I fucking hate it now, Toronto has become India. And no its not racism, I literally couldn’t care less about Indians or any other races until I started interacting with them. But Canada used to be real good place just 10 years ago.
Living in france, i can agree, france is worst country in europe, how is this guy visiting champs Elysées for 3 days, never going into french politics, and french situations, where france literaly is producing european terrorists, wonder why
I live in The paris suburb (in Versailles) and the city of Toulon, and unlike you I can say that what you said is complete bullshit. I never had any problem in the street in my entire life (even going in shitty places) So shut the f up when you never put a foot in the French soil.
West isn't falling source: falling crime rate, increasing life expectancy, continued ecomic dominance, Russian failure in Ukraine and OPEC moving to irrelevance.
This is why you shouldn't get your information from TH-cam. The crime rate in the UK is high and much higher than it used to be. Holidays aren't the same as living in these countries.
@@chigchong2805 I've only lived in the west so couldn't comment on that. Plus I think it's very much on your own personal values and expectations aswell
I agree with you gattsu, it's a great video, but talking about the recent riots in France concerning the death of the 17 years old guy, it wasnt a good idea mentioning them the way you did. The riots were not for him, they were an excuse for looting they did not hide their intentions, and the victim, althrough its sad that he died, was a petty criminal endangering peoples in the street. The shooting may or not have been justified, it is the justice role to judge not people. There is a real problem in france but it's not about immigration, it's about subhurbs population who came from immigrant backgrounds and are prone to crime for a lot of reasons.
Thats how most protests end up unfortunately. Bad people use what was supposed to be good to do damage, but i think its the media that blows everything out of proportion because it was a black kid. For example, a yter Donut Operator has a videoabout a shooting where in america a white teen with his gf was eating a burger in his car and a cop thought they were in a stolen vehicle because it looked similar to one; so when he pointed his gun at them and they reversed away he shot at the kid and he was hospitalised but lived. But there was no huge media thing over that or riots as far as i think. But when George Floyd, a criminal ON DRUGS dies (most likely from the drugs) after another police mistake suddenly it's this huge thing. Sensationalist media that is overly negative is a big problem.
A kid getting stabbed in Grasse, a father loosing an arm to a grenade in aubervilliers and a penitentiary truck that got attacked in the span of 24 hours but "France is going well" Edit : yeah also forgot to mention that the guard of the truck was killed in the attack
Oh yeah and let's just not forget how Marseille is now almost it's own state being owned by gangs funding their own proxy wars to the nearest cities to get a hold in it and the government admitting that they couldn't do anything
@@jt3963 yeah people getting killed every week is not an indicator of in how much shit the country is in yeah also don't ask why there are narcostates it's normal and not an inicator of a shit country oh yeah let's not ask ourselves why the japanese came into our capital to "teach us to clean" judging by how dirty it is yeah the country is absolutely normal it's not like we are putting ourselves into almost bankrupcy too right...?
@@jt3963it does NOT happen in every country, you wont hear about this happen in today's slovenia for example, especially the thing is most of these are NOT done by people who are native from the place
Clearly hasn’t been to London 😂😂😂 I can speak for it as I live in london. It’s all fun n games for tourists until you gotta live here. Cost of living keeps going up, not enough housing, police understaffed and underequiped, docters and nurses leaving + insane wait time not to mention crime. I could go on and on lol
Would you rather live in London or Mongolia? Or London or Mexico City? No where is PERFECT but London is one of the best cities in the world even with all those problems
Yes that’s I’d rather live in London and I’m very grateful for it. But i don’t let gratitude blind me to problems as acknowledging them is the first step to fixing them. Many things in your life are controllable. Food you eat. Things you buy and subscribe to, etc… It’s all consent. Your external reflects your internal and vice versa.
thats a very long "muh lived experience" video. While i dont agree with the message that the west is 'ruined' this was just 'i saw this' and 'i never see that', i see this pattern in every video, it gets old 😑
@@Vlad_956 paris: Crime Index: 57.66 Safety Index: 42.34 tbilisi: Crime Index: 25.57 Safety Index: 74.43 crime rate by PER CAPITA is embarrassingly higher than in tbilisi, and we both know why
It's not fallen completely, but the West is definitely declining. As someone who was born and raised in Britain (and still lives there), it has hit its peak. It's easier to get annoyed and sick of whqt you're familar with and I understand your grudges with Georgia. But here’s why some look at Eastern Europe, Central Asia and China with rose tinted glasses- the opportunity to improve is definitely a thing. Although I will say as someone with a Dad born and raised in China, how much such a place can improve in the next 30 years is very subjective. The opportunity for the West to improve is finished because everyone has become complacent. Instead it's everyone arguing over luxury beliefs and social programs. But of course, the West has questionable age demographics and some can't work out what a man or woman really is.
And the false assault thing is a reflection of the fear that m3n have towards women with nefarious intention, hence some men withdrawing from socialising and flirting
You dont even know that tho. What makes you think this is any other than an economic downturn? And what I've noticed that people like you really mean when you say "the west can't differentiate a man and a woman", you always seem to imply traditional gender roles as if that's the only option. A woman does not have to do feminine things, that's the beauty of the west.
As a Romanian, I agree. Most Romanians think of Britain as some sort of heaven. Here people always envy the west and believe that Romania will always have “corrupt politicians and corrupt priests”. But as someone who visited Britain, although you have nice architecture and history, I would not like to live there or raise my children there. You have lgbt flag everywhere, even in kids toy shops and schools. You dont have religion. Your country doesnt even seem like a country. In Romania we are 98% Christian, we have tradition and culture.
You know those weird white guys who are obsessed with anime and japanese culture, thinking Japan is paradise. Gattsu is the same, but his deal is North America and Western Europe. Just looking at a number on a paycheck is completely meaningless. A pack of cigarettes in Iran is $2, and in Norway its $14. People in Spain, Croatia, Italy etc live with their parents until they are 30+ because they can't afford a place of their own. A middle-class couple who both work full-time can't afford a place in the greater Toronto metropolitan area. If you think the world is unfair you can relax, the quality of life in the West has been steadily going down since the 90s, and it's not stopping.
My friend was in Paris last week, he did indeed confirm that there are homeless people around every corner, garbage on the streets, and heavily armed police.
As someone who frequents paris i have actually witnessed someone be killed near the Eiffel tower, and two people be assaulted, both by refugees in less than 24 hrs
The west is awful. Yes. I feel considerably more secure and at ease in Eastern Europe. You traveled to 'Paris', saw the Eiffel Tower, a pleasant park, and it was 'wonderful'. Sure. You are very uneducated; I have family all throughout Western countries, and what they say in private about the situation of their small communities is not heard in public. Then they are startled when people like Wilders, Meloni, Austria's far right, Le Pen's party, or the AfD win elections. They feel hopeless because politicians are uninterested in listening to their local issues and concerns.
this entire guy’s personality is like this as you mentioned. look through his videos and community posts. not only does he fall for the tracks of the west, but he makes fun of other nations (like mine), for being “over nationalistic” and “backwards”. the moment georgia became an eu observer, he became like this just to get a french visa. you can’t be saying stuff about other countries when you’re from the 3rd world nation of georgia. he seems to have a thing for turks and russians too. honestly, it’s pathetic. as you mentioned there, some of our relatives in the west also suffer despite having a better quality of life. he doesn’t realise he’s a TOURIST.
As if Eastern Europe was much better with their corruption. Nobody said the West was a perfect utopia, but the fact is there are more people immigrating to Western Europe than Eastern Europe. As someone who has traveled to Eastern Europe, except for the safety, I'd much rather live in the West.
To be quite fair, Paris IS a dirty city and full of dog poop and rats everywhere, but it is also beautiful. And also its dirtiness isn't a "fallen Paris", it was always like this.
also >it's so good to see all these immigrants living together in peace >pans over a bunch of white people, not an ahmed in sight very honest representation bro
Gattsu, I believe you haven't lived anywhere in the West and you're completely out of touch with how life is there. I'd say it's wiser to dedicate an entire video to praising the West only when you've spent a significant amount of time LIVING there.
Alright, well as someone who has lived in the west my entire life, the west has not fallen, that’s cope from people who live in actual shitholes. (Anywhere east of Greece or west of Taiwan)
sorry but this bs. I am starting to feel like you wannabe a westerner .Its ok , but you are criticising the other half of the coin, without living or experiencing life in Western countries just visiting them for couple days.
Well the point of the video was to show that the first world isn’t worse than the third world. A lot of people looking at the west like it’s Yemen or something, thinking that western countries are apocolyptic. Which obviously is not, but I’ve never been to Europe so it might be a lot worse than I thought, can’t judge without going there, too much misinformation.
The west hasn't really fallen but there's been SERIOUS issues . Like Sweden genuinely did get irreversibly changed especially with crime and demographics
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rotfl what dude. get lost
The West has risen, we're so back
@@ryeryel4118 why not??? please give it a try pretty please 🥺
bro mrbeast made a video in paris the same day as this comes out lmao
I'll pass this video on to the Canadian embassy. Gotta be sure our boy can get in.
gonna raid dundas if they dont let my boy in
bro gattsu needs to come to quebec fr
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What is there to do in Canada lmao furry parade?
@@d0loressk4ze28 omg when
The west has fallen into the river of lego city
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Gattsu is getting really popular, even the Paris government paid him for advertisement.
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@@aJamBiscuit i know this is rich coming from me but you've spammed every single comment disagreeing with the video with low level insults lmao
opinion you do not agree with? must be paid advertisement.
Lol
@@Light-20 im bored
Dudes will go to NYC and say the west has fallen. Like na bro, this place has always sucked lol
LA and SF are even worse.
Prob much less than 40 years ago. Except that its expensive and maybe less cool people.
It got worse overtime. People are overreacting to garner attention to what’s going on as people rarely listen to sensational news outside of a mainstream media outlet or it happens right outside of their doorstep.
The west hasn’t fallen, yet. It’s losing its balance though
I was just in NYC and I loved it
@@roy_for_real2674 Dude 40 years ago NYC was in the depths of a terrible cr*ck epidemic and was one of the m*rder capitals of the world lol. The Bronx looked like an actual war zone.
Gatsu straight up has singelhandedly unfallen the west
Gattsu truly is the Georgian Aurelian
Tell that to the drag show events 😂
@@TurtleChad1 People dressing up in costumes? Truly, Western civilization has come to an end!
@@TurtleChad1 You're gay
@@TurtleChad1No one is & can force you to be gay.
As a French, I can say that Paris sucks, it's beautiful but real France is much much more cleaner, you have to visit Nante or Rennes
Mec rennes💀💀 t'es jamais allé à Paris pour dire ça, surtout aujourd'hui c'est banger.
J'habite à Paris et c'est vraiment désagréable d'y vivre, mais à visiter ça doit être cool !
I swear every French person I talk to say this
@@sharpasacueball I'm french and rennes and nantes are shitholes, paris is better
Arrête de lui mentir
Gattsu working hard to get Georgias EU membership
He has been speedrunning the US political asylum case for the last year straight with luck to our boi!
And it worked!
Isn’t Georgia technically in Asia.
@@AlexKS1992so is Cyprus
@@AlexKS1992 who cares.
the problem with this video is giving a positive opinion on the french
Obviously hasnt smelled the french.
@@thatundeadlegacy2985keep yourself safe
@@malegria9641tf you gonna do throw bread then surrender
That’s just straight up xenophobic
@fridayfunker-gl4cl so are the French but that's besides the point.
The internet is literally the worst representation of real life.
Fax, I hate Social Media, they hurt other people's feelings.
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@@waterisbased The thing with that kind of propaganda is that you have a handful of groups, be it adversarial governments like Russia and China are to most western nations, homegrown extermist groups, or even a mix of both working together when their goals coincide, purposefully propagating ideas to create further divison within a nation's population and destabilize their current government, impeding on their ability to follow with their current foreign policies, weakening their position within the nation's political horizon, etc...
Nowadays it often takes the form of waves of social media posts, using bots or actual humans, which is then, unknowingly or not, parroted by people influenced by them, which, akin to dominos, results in even more people being influenced by that propaganda campaign and doing the same.
In the end, the talking points made for that propaganda campaign end up so entangled in the public perception that you need to go through painstaking efforts, lasting years if not decades, to clear out the misconceptions on a wide enough scale for these talking points to die out. But, unfortunately, the people who benefit from these propaganda campaigns don't just wait for the previous talking points to die out before putting new ones out, making for an impossible battle to win.
All that to say, we shouldn't underestimate the sheer amount of actual humans who fall victim to the waves of bots and unknowingly spread all that nonsense further. We may have seen a recrudescence of Russian bots in the last decade, but they, despite being instigators, still only make up a small portion of the overall discussion.
In the end, resuming it all to them mostly being bots only reinforces the position victims of these propaganda campaigns hold, as they inevitably feel attacked whenever someone says that "most people", which is mostly interpreted as "all" rather than "big subset" by the human brain, who hold similar views to them are all bots. The goal shouldn't be to indirectly reinforce the propaganda, but to weaken it.
@@waterisbased or with Z pfp
@@waterisbased Yeah, cut Russian internet access, and wow, there goes the problem.
Gattsu uploaded. The west is saved. Billions must be born
I ❤️ TND
the west has fallen my neighbor is gay no!!!!! please dont be gay near me! it'll make me gay1!!! rahhh!!! i dont have any charges against me no!!!111!1! im moving to tajikistan!!!!
Society is fine
The West is... Flourishing
Billions must... Live
Trillions, actually
XD
The only reason why the west hasn't fallen is because of Gattsu's videos
Sure but what about all the LGBT stuff schools are teaching now ??
@@TurtleChad1 The west hasnt fallen, its falling
@@artillerimanThat's still a problem. We need to prevent it from falling.
@@TurtleChad1oh its bad they teach lgbt instead of christianity in some schools + they are letting in more migrants and that is the reason west will destroy itself
@@TurtleChad1 dont be homophobic. you obviously don't listen to what gattsu is talking about in his videos.
Ngl this whole moving to poorer countries thing kinda reminds me of how weebs would move to japan
Japan is not poor
@@abdulwasilabib16 I know but this type of tourism is common in japan despite them being a HIC
And I've heard people in some of these countries like Bali, Thailand or Vietnam get annoyed at these immigrants too, especially with all the Russians/Ukrainians after the war, moving in general causes some difficulties
@@stewagnerThey like white people, but only their kind of white lmao
@@stewagnerRacists 😡
Central europe be like
"sorry my English is not so good"
Also them:
- Aced the CPE in grade 6
- Taught English in America
- Wrote a literary analysis theisis on Shakespeare
- Wrote a New York Times best seller
Meanwhile me a Arab: English isnt my first language so excuse my grammatical mistakes
*meanwhile I just finished English first language IGCSE with ease*
You see its not just Europeans, its pretty much the whole world that say their English isnt good even though they are more comprehensible and speak better more clearer English that native speakers.
@@hishamalaker491…Except us Japanese
@@hishamalaker491 English is pretty much required to land any job, if your competitors know even just a speck more of English than you it’s guaranteed they’ll be hired before you even if you are better at your profession. That’s why most people in the world know English very well, because we are taught from a very young age (I’m mexican)
@@hishamalaker491I like that you claim that you would say to people that your English isn’t that good, and at the same time claiming that it’s better than that of English natives. Now which is it? Are you humble or arrogant.
You are right about that the west definitely hasn’t fallen and that a lot of the people on the internet are making it seem way worse than it actually is. With that being said I think the west has a lot of problems that it needs to address in order to remain dominant and many people on the internet like to focus just on the problems because they are from first world countries and are therefore are used to a high standard of living that seems crazy to foreigners from less developed countries.
Edit: idk where you found that the US education is the best it the world but other than that great video
cuz it is lol you can pick your classes, in romania teachers dont even come to school and the ones that come gamble during class
@@giggoty4926you are Romanian?
The us education is terrible, its just that it's the least terrible
Life is hard everywhere, they say it's better here and it is but with no perspective of why it's better people will focus on what's not the best and start to believe it's the worst like you and gattsu and everyone says, it would be awesome if these conversations spawned debate on solutions and not just debates on who better understands how fucked up it is
Gattsu sees himself as political liberal in the US-American sense, maybe because of his strong dislike against Russian propaganda ("the west is so bad everything is better here") and the corruption and double standards of "non-bureaucratic right wing" politicians.
Therefore he often does not want to take the existence of problems, that are often brought up by conservative or right leaning people, serious.
Here is the thing:
He could see gender obsession (hormones for children, gender-affirming surgery payed by health insurance, everyone can choose their pronoun...) as problematic and still not fall for Russian propaganda against gay people.
He could see the problems of de-industrialization and still be for a greener planet.
He could see the problems with different VISA systems, but also see why VISAs are necessary.
He could acknowledge problems with Islamism in France and Belgium imported through migration and still be for religious freedom.
But his videos are sadly always very one sided ("I made vacation in Paris and there were no big problems for me. Andrew Tate is a sex offender. The west has not fallen.").
Yeah ppl do say oh west bad all they want yes it’s not all sunshine and rainbows there are legitimate issues with it but ppl bitch and moan about the way they have it (in my opinion) because they haven’t experienced what’s it’s actually like to live in a shithole country
Seeing a lot of criticism in the comment section.
There are some points that I agree with, but I think for me the reason why western europe is so fascinating for eastern europeans is sense of security and how well state functions.
I’m Georgian as well, I love my country and I understand that it’s safer and more prosperous than most of developing post-soviet states, but constant economic and political crisis, lack of opportunities, region that is a literal geopolitical time-bomb and neighboring goddamn Russia that constantly wants to invade you and conquer you feels like a way more significant problem and threat for existence itself than some riots and dirty hoods.
Countries like this feel like sitting on a keg full of explosives, even though we are not dying of hunger.
გათსუ არის ნაციონალი პრო-ევროპელი რომელსაც დღემდე სჯერა რომ ევროპა იდეალურია და მინუსები არ აქვს მაგრამ როცა ეუბნებიან რომ ჰეი ევროპას ბევრი პრობლემა არა ლეგალური მიგრანტები, ეკონომიკური კრიზის და მაღალი ფასები პროდუქტზე ის პასუხობს იმით რომ "პარიზის ტურისტულ ნაწილში ვიყავი და მანდ ყველაფერი მაგრადააააააააა თქვენ ყველა შტერები ხართ მე ჭკვიანი"
I think Baltics is a sweet spot between west and east, secure and relatively advanced, but also still has that eastern charm. But I'm biased 😅
its very true, the West is like an utopia for a lot of Eastern Europeans, but i dont 100% agree with that statement. it has its own, kinda more different set of problems, but its not the simple existence of Muslims/Blacks in there that ruins it. rather its the arrogance of Western people, if they actually experienced a month in our countries they'd be thankful.
@@CFRTrainSpotterYou're making western people out to all think like the Americans quite frankly the muslims are a problem islam is fundamentally incompatible with western ideals. And the west bends over backwards to appease them Sweden had quran burnings now they're looking into blasphemy laws brittain had Rotherham. The problem is Eastern Europeans aren't compatible either if you look at my country the host workers aren't learning the native language, cause problems mostly due to being intoxicated and pollute the streets like no other. Not all problems stem from immigration but it is a problem.
Security in the west doesn't exist. If you're french a muslim can behead it's teacher for teaching him laicity, and 30% of the population would say " the teacher deserve it ".
Migrants are never punished for their crimes, never forced to leave the territory
Whenever a black or arabic person gets shot by the police while committing a crime, there is race riots and whole cities burning
You get heavier prison sentences for wrongthink than for actually assaulting people
You guys just don't live here. You've never had to face our justice system, nor our administrative or health system. It all sounds good on paper but try living in France a year.
There's a MASSIVE difference between visiting somewhere and actually living there
Ive lived in multiple countires for multiple years including berlin and paris and i can tell you from first hand experience that they are both awesome compared to most places in the world. Rent is fucked but if you are educated you get payed a shit ton aswell. So for people wanting to live in a major city they are great.
@@malikkouki9290
If you are a high earner, even Baghdad is awesome.
@@didierduplantier8359
i think its easier to become a high earner in the west than in baghdad.
I live in Germany in a state with pretty high immigrant population, it's pretty clean, has good job opportunities and is safe only bad thing is rent in Cities.
Boohoo stop complaining, it’s genuinely not that bad in the west
Living in a country and being a tourist in a country are two different things.
Nah, France is a pretty cool country to live in as well. The healthcare is great, supermarkets rock, education system is brilliant, transport system rules and they’ve got cultural coming out of their asses.
Im personally not into capital cities but people in Paris have a great lifestyle.
@@Whatshisname346 Not everything is perfect. I heard some pretty bad stories about studying medicine in France. And there are a lot of problems with the culture in my opinion (when it comes to unity, trust, honor and humbleness). But it is of cause a way better place to live in then a lot of other countries.
@@Whatshisname346 France is only good to live when your out of paris and in the countryside.
I have been told that about every country I go to and it is true. Even here in America, if you arent Germanic, Finnish or Japanese, Life will probably be better for you in America than it would be in the land of your ancestors. Even if you had a great time visiting
@@linuxman7777 "if you arent Germanic, Finnish or Japanese, Life will probably be better for you in America" LMAO what a moronic statement. Such an arbitrary Reddit grouping. You're talking about ~200 million people in several different countries with very different cultures and societal expectations. Quality of life depends on the individual. Their preferences, hobbies, skills, education, financials, religion, etc etc. There are South Africans, Egyptians, Vietnamese, Saudi Arabians that have "better" lives than they would in America. There are people from Switzerland, Finland, Japan that have emigrated to America and say their lives are better. This isn't binary.
Also, this whole thing about the French riots are unfounded. Yes, a police killing sparked African outrage, whos response was terrible. However people seem to have forgotten this EXACT SAME THING HAPPENED OVER 10 YEARS AGO IN LONDON. The 2011 riots were insane, scary, and would have been deemed "west has fallen" if they happened today. Soon after, arrests were made, people carried on as normal.
The only time the "X has Fallen" comments were warranted was cus of BLM.
Not even cus of racism or anything. Litterally just cus it was mostly white people who used it as an excuse to riot and pull goofy shit.
Every country has issues, but the french especially like to ramble on about events and as usual the media always tries to maximize viewers , then it gets twisted by american/foreign media.
As someone from a developping country in Africa who has lived in both europe and north america, it is very interesting to see how major the perspective differences are.
It didn't happen much in the 20th century 2011 is recent
As a french we french people are literally insane and complain and complain and make everything seem way worse than it actually is. Also the police officer told the kid to stop moving or he'll shoot, guess what the kid did.
@@belstar1128 Brixton riots 1981, 1985. 1958 Notting Hill race riots. 1976 Notting Hill riot. Algerian massacre in Paris 1961.
I'm pretty sure it's a "grass is greener on the other side" type thing. Both the east and west have benefits and detriments to living there but it's difficult for a person who lives in one to understand the struggles of someone who lives in the other.
He's certainly overlooking a lot of problems about the west but most "the west has fallen" type guys are overlooking most problems in the east because they've never experienced them first hand.
Overall as a westerner i have to say the west's problems aren't so bad that I would rather live in Mongolia or something. All places in the world are flawed so it's pretty dumb to think that the west is falling because it's not a Utopia (although i don't really see the west getting any better in the future due to the decreasing birth rates and other problems)
You are so fcking right
Coming from Eastern European
@@ShadowBlitz776 thanks man
This is a very logical take, better than what's being shouted by the (American) "left" and "right".
@@ivanthaboi Np
The problem is that the west is getting worse but its hard to mess up so much that it becomes genuinely bad.
To be fair, you're only going to capitals. I live in Scotland and we're completely ignored by the government in England. We have the highest drug death rate in the entire world, 4x higher than any other european country, we have one of the highest suicide rates in the world. The entire country is decaying.
True though when people say "the west has fallen" they don't say that because of the government being shit they say that because minorities and progressive policies when that isn't the case.
@@tauempire1793yeah i completely agree, it just agitates me when people act like everything in all of western europe is great. i would generally rather live in many eastern european countries than here, we have so many social problems and we are worst in the entire world in many of them.
@@thevis5465I get that tbh, tho I personally wouldn't live in Eastern Europe myself.
But I agree it isn't perfect but as people say "the grass is greener on the other side"
Also the reason theyre letting in so many immigrants is because the birth rate is falling and they dont wanna collapse like japan
@@tauempire1793 Western governments are replacing indigenous European populations against their will, and suppressing any attempt to resist it through language policing and hate speech laws. The media also inseminates negative ideas in the minds of Europeans (exclusively Europeans) that defending your own is wrong, while simultaneously supporting non-European racialist movements like BLM.
I went to Berlin myself recently and even if my German friends said its a shithole, i did actually find it pretty neat. But i guess its for a different reason, mainly because capital cities are almost always disliked by the people who live outside them. I also was mostly in the central area, cus i didnt have the time to visit the hoods.
Not really. I live in Vancouver and I say the same about Vancouver, even tho it aint a "capital city".
Shit mostly runs on cycles. Its a shithole for like 10 years straight, and then everybody wisens up and it turns into a great city again.
But then they get complacent and it turns back into a shithole.
Same story with NYC and SanFrancisco in the 90s
Im german. What plays into this is also regionalism. People from Düssesorf for example will tell you that Köln/Cologne is a shithole and that people from cologne eating their own babys or worse, arent able to brew beer. The cities are connected via a bridge. You walk 5 min and you are in enemy territory.
Bro wtf, Berlin is fucking fire. I don't think your friend's opinions are actually based on their own experiences, probably just inhereted hate from rural boomers.
@@astragardwaris6288 I love Köln it's a beautiful city, that and Wuppertal
It's because Berlin and Frankfurt are Germany's worst cities. Berlin hate is just a thing since 2015/2016 during the refugee crisis.
Bro's European union check is coming in with this one 🔥
Better than the east like Russia
At least if i make fun of my government i dont dissapear
That's not how it works in the west, you dont have to lick the governments ass to get things done, unlike in a lot of Eastern countries.
yeah but over here its even worse, they make it public, they dont just silently make you dissapear, they put you on stage and frame you as this demon who did the worst thing on earth, For example "Espionage" when you are in reality just a journalist who recieved whistleblower intel and was allowed by law to publicize it because of free speech laws, Talking about Julian assange, guy got called out for "Espionage" even though he was just a journalist and got life in prison, Same with Donald trump today, who is facing life in prison over paying a prostitute not to talk about what they did in the white house which is just a small misdemeanor, when Hunter biden literally has a over 200 page document showcasing all the crimes he did with Joe Biden himself with piles and piles of evidence, Aswell as being seen with coke under his nostrals recently and acting rather weird/twitchy on footage@@uh8705
for now .. but russia sooner of later will have the biggest economy by far in europe and richest country... justbecause they tons or nat.resources @@Xyrulis
Gattsu, visiting a place is a lot more different from having to live in a place, hence why you thought Paris was good.
You don't have to deal with the BS on a daily basis nor can compare how the quality of life has changed over the years.
Mexico is a nice place for Americans and Europeans to visit on vacation, but it isn't some tropical paradise to my side of the family having to live there
based compatriot
This could be said about literally every single place on earth. There is not a single country without issues
@panslavicgugo8479what’s that funny symbol in your pfp buddy
Idk man I'd take a city with world class public transit, high quality of life and actually drinkable tap water with all its imperfections and housing problems over living in a developing country anyday, and I say that as a fairly nationalistic person.
@panslavicgugo8479 bro, you literally contradict yourself. “Italy has one of the worst education systems in Europe” and “the only reason that I’m here is for my studies”. But you still choose to study there and not in your home country, maybe Italian education isn’t that bad after all??
I live in Sweden and… yeah. The west hasn’t “fallen” per say but my country has gone from the model welfare state to having a daily shooting. I live in a pretty peaceful small neighbourhood, a family got shot up nearby and three of them died also one of my old classmates got executed in a gang conflict aswell, Also Brussels. The reason is obviously not “duh duh black people” but it’s definitely correlated to the imigration crisis.
The west is still good, incredibly good in fact, but it’s definitely on the decline especially if you live here. Housing market, crime and we swedes are going into a recession.
Damn... sorry to hear that. I never imagine my country would be safer then west 😶
@@seedad117 it is pretty sad. I think the worst part is that we can’t offer safety from people who actually come here to work and so on anymore. I knew a immigrant man who had worked his ass of to set up a shop on the block where I live, a few months back he got robbed in the shop at gun point.
@@soursam1515 that's awful. It very worrying too. I hope the best of luck for your country to get better from this 🙏
@@seedad117 thank you, I hope so as well
Rape crisis is pretty bad in Sweden too, immigrants commiting 8 out of 10 rapes.
I live in South America, and I know the first world countries have their problems, but damn, it's terrible when someone from US or Europe start to live here and make content saying that this is the best place in the world. It's easy like this place when you are paid in Dollars or Euros
The entirety of South America is a cesspool because it's a criminal empire. The whole continent of America is cursed safe for Canada. But know that you are one of the more extreme example.
There are definitely places that foreigners would consider heaven, without it being a complete lie. Southeast Asia usually. Not developed, but low crime and friendly culture. Problem usually is with brain drain and some areas with unkempt infrastructure.
They're just doing that for clicks man. Don't take travel TH-camrs seriously.
@SamRoberts-ng3pu Yes, man, it's simple: Say what people wanna hear, and they will love you
Precisely. At least you're smart enough enough see through these vloggers and their nonsense.
People from developing countries, especially ones that were colonised, have a weird obessession with getting approval from vloggers from 'richer' nations.
As such, they will create the content that you describe for clicks.
@@SamRoberts-ng3pu Don't make it more complicated than it is bud. It's not an obsession, more like an attraction. And you know why it is, a very simple concept.
the west hasnt fallen but conditions are decreasing around the west due to economic instability and that is very real
tbf same thing in the whole world post covid
Yeah, the same thing can be said about the whole world. And conditions are not decreasing *_everywhere_* in the west. Many smaller and medium sized cities are booming and better than ever, even though the big major cities are going through some problems (yet despite the big major cities problems, they are still doing very well over all, just they maybe arent at their all time best, but every place has its ups and downs).
@@nicklibby3784 i mean of course small town are doing good they always do good because blue politicians don’t win there, but when talking about the west as a whole or any large swath of territory the best way to gauge the condition of the political system and health of the society is by analyzing the major population centers and as we’ve seen in recent years the cities are getting worse and if the majority population centers of the west are falling is it not a fair assessment that the whole of the west is going down with the ship
Yeah that's like global. Russia is doing way worse then the west
no@@HelioV1
do NOT invest in that shit lmao
this IS financial advice
Gattsu, I like some of your content, but if your idea of having "boots on the ground" is being a tourist in a certain country for a couple days, I have to burst your bubble. Tourism, like you clearly mentioned in another one of your videos, is meant to portray the best image of your country, kinda like North Korean tour guides do by explicitly telling you not to dig up all the dirt there is. This video is full of anecdotes so let's ground ourselves with some facts: birthrates are falling in the west, communities are disappearing, trust is falling, the increase in suicide is higher, the average young adult has no hopes for the future, in part because of the culture and in large part because it has become impossible for new generations to even dream about owning a house of their own. I have lived in both the west and in third world. In the third world, I could buy a house without a mortgage, and while it is not much, it is something I could call my own. I have cousins who are in their 20s, already have children and live in their own house. And that is statistically still the average over there. In the west however, me AND my girlfriend both cannot get a mortgage of 200k Euros (which is not nearly enough to even buy a small apartment) even when both employed on a decent job. There are several valid reasons why one would go live outside of the west today. One thing I agree with you is that women™ is not a valid excuse to escape the west.
"let's ground ourselves with some facts: fact, anecdote (baseless), anecdote (baseless), fact (unclear), anecdote (baseless) anecdote (baseless)"
@@acex222 Robert D Putnam "Bowling Alone": large study on the decline of community. Price index of real estate looking at Brazil & Argentina (two biggest economies in south america) show 4x lower price per square mile than in the US. Mean childbearing age in the west is 32, South America is 28
@@introspection827 I agree with everything you say, but these comments are sadly going to disappear in the algorithm. Gattsu clearly made it his schtick to portray one side as all being Tate-fanbois, and strawmanning what people who actually live in the West and who don't have rose colored glasses on say.
Btw, I'm Belgian, so yeah I live in the West. Brussels isn't a hellhole as Trump portrayed it, but there are areas where you better do not walk at night and even in the touristic spots, women have been harassed considerably more by "new" Belgians than the locals.
Both sides are mental: the Tate degenerates, and the Eastern Europeans thinking the West is a beacon of light that has it all figured out.
The west certainly hasnt "Fallen" but its definetaly in decline, i live in the UK - Scotland to be specific, our cost of living is through the roof, we cant pay our workers livable wages, we basically have an unelected prime minister running the country, illegal migration is rampant, our economy is in decline and so is our quality of life. For a tourist to visit the most tourist infested area of a country with the greatest amount tourism globally, ofcourse its gonna seem like heaven.
Yeah I can't believe he misses that. The West hasn't fallen, but the standard of living is falling in some ways, and you won't see it by visiting the best areas.
What pisses me off is that few people say "the west has fallen" the say as you Gentlemen said that it's in decline so the whole videos premise is based on a strawman
that's happening globally, it's not just a western problem.
This is a global problem that is not exclusive to the west. As someone who has lived in some of the poorest parts of Asia and then moved to well-off (and not so well off) places in North America, you guys have it really good, like genuinely speaking like you’re in the top 5% of the living standard, even with all your problems. Even then, he is not saying that the West is perfect or it’s “heaven” but that mfs degrading it and thinking the middle of nowhere is Central Asia or Eastern Europe is miles better even though they’re living on a high standard with inflated overseas western salaries are insanely hypocritical
that’s a global problem
I agree with most points but damn, it was not the experience i had when i was in Paris in the beginning of July this year. There were a LOT of homeless people in groups in the center of Paris, I remember one of them shouted at my female friend about something. There was trash everywhere, the more people there were, the more trash I've seen. For me it didn't feel that safe but being with friends made it better. Also at the end of the trip, I was going alone through the metro and some french guy would ask me and some old lady something in french but I told him that I don't speak french in english, later when there wasn't anybody around, the guy walked up to me, started shouting at me in french and was saying "London? London?" He thought that I was british and from what I understood he told me to never come back to Paris and slapped me hard in the face and walked off. It wasn't a very nice experience, and damn, most cashiers in stores didn't speak english at all. Your experience was very different but I cannot relate to it at all.
I have a personal friend who was stabbed in his first hour in Paris outside a Major tourist area because he confronted the guy who was trying to pickpocket him. The their got away and the police said there was nothing they could do. then he had to go to the hospital to get a bunch of shots in case there was other people's diseased blood already on the knife.
Later that day he saw a car get set on fire in the middle of the road.
I have never in my life seen a car get set on fire in my country.
Tldr Paris
Paris is a shithole always has bedn
"For me, a complete pussy who never leaves his house, paris felt unsafe"
Tldr blacks
so glad that Canadian colonies like france are getting the recognition they deserve, maybe one day people will start talking about the uk 🍁
Is this a joke i dont understand or are you serious ?
@@mechanicalsilence1 you have autism
The Québec colonized France
@@mechanicalsilence1Have you looked at a world map? France is obviously a part of The Canadian Empire.
its Armenian tf u mean
The west hasnt fallen but it isnt doing that well... How many terrorist attacks have happened in the past 10 years? My uni teacher told me she went to teach at a school in france and there were muslim kids. Once they had a conflict between the kids and their parents came to school and started a fight, they called more relatives to come and join the fight and the police didnt give a fuck. Or a friend of mine went to london and joked about getting stabbed and he fucking did. Another friend of mine studies in london and he says that people are afraid to get out after 18:00 pm and you see dudes with winter jackets and ski masks hanging out, some have weapons on the like katanas.
Just because you visited Paris where its the tourist capital itd doesnt mean the situation is good for the rest of the country.
I actually had a friend was falsely accused of sexual assault because he broke up with his girlfriend he went to this private school and then she accused him of sexual assault and they didn't give him a chance to defend himself and then later the girl admitted that she lied but they didn't unexpelled him from the school (im from the getto he the rich one ) love your vids
what is bro waffling about?
@@tkokflux6322 what are u waffling about, its a story and a very clear one bruh
@@theinstrument122 what you talking about ?
@@hitfire755 FRIENDLY FIRE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED 🗣️🗣️
Please use punctuation, other than that thank you for sharing
I grew up in the hood in London and I totally agree. Despite what you hear about the stabbings London is a safe city. It’s not exactly the cleanest city but it doesn’t smell like piss all the time. And the people you’ll meet are great. A lot of negativity is hyped up by the media for attention and for political fear-mongering. A lot of it is pretty racially charged as well. Most of the gang violence stays within the gangs themselves (even though civilians are sometimes sadly accidental victims)
The only problem for London is how it’s becoming very expensive and mass gentrification is taking place. Normal working people can’t afford to live here anymore and are moving out. There’s now an exodus of working class former Londoners living outside of London in places like Essex and Kent. There are entire towns on the border of London built just to house these people and they are depressing AF. This also brings the drugs and gangs over to these regions as well. Meanwhile there are entire council estates in central London that are completely empty and are basically run by the gangs. That’s something that the media doesn’t really talk about.
New Orleands and SanFrancisco legitimately does smell like piss though.
Anaheim smells like cowshit 24/7, because of how braindead the zoning laws are there.
Agree with you bro. I grew up in Acton and Southall in rough housing situations and now own a lil flat in West Ealing having the time of my life. London is a world class city and full of opportunity. Crime exists but it’s hardly the South Bronx in the 1980s. As long as you are sensible you can mostly avoid any madness.
>Doesn't smell like piss ALL the time
But yeah, I'd say any place on earth is decent enough if it's not Somali or some shit
Yea Stabbings mostly only happen to people associated with stuff like gangs. Unless they're in one of them idk why one wouldn't get stabbed
@@dannydanny2789 now that's just mean my hooyo is very hospitable
“I went to Paris and it was nice” “I went to Moscow/Leningrad and it was nice” like bruh you went to the tourist capital, everyone loves paris
He apparently did not go to Paris suburbs.
I think you're some decades ahead of time buddy.
Numbeo, the statistics website says that crime in Paris is high. But of course, statistics are just stereotypes and conspiracy. Better listen to rap, smoke weed and chill out
@@SpaceMarine113 Why would he?
leningrad 💀💀💀💀💀💀
9:08 Really??? REALLY??? The US and the UK have great education systems???
They do 🤪
@@99Yeti 💀nah they dont
@@mariusaeberhard ok prove it too me with evidence
they do and I’m tired of pretending I agree with the people who think they don’t
@@Thetoucanman918 Ive lived in both of those countries and let me tell you, they suck. Compared to other western states it sucks
I agree it hasn’t fallen but to say there aren’t systemic issues that have been ignored for decades that caused the west to be put in a position of great weakness is undeniable
The guy is literally using charlatans like Andrew Tate who made a profit by using prostitutes to sweet talk desperate sexless men into giving him money. There's literally tens of videos of him explaining that he recruited the sexiest girls he could find, would make them masturbate on cam, while he would text and flirt with the simps on the other side of the screen.
Also he's a leftist shitpost channel, yeah he's Eastern European, but still a leftist, take his shit with a grain of salt.
exactly
Weakness as opposed to what?
@@noco7243
Being able to have a sense of community, ethnic and religious similarities, not having economic migrants cause riots or hand grenade attacks every month, not having economic migrants be overrepresented in rape, grooming gang, or general violent crimes statistics, being able to have healthy families that all fit in with each other and aren't alienated by roves of foreigners.
You know normal things that healthy societies like Singapore, Japan and other countries can afford you.
@@noco7243 bro if you think that defunding the police and letting criminals walk out of stores with stolen goods, having riots every other day or the mutilation of children being legal is not deterioration of the West, then idk what to tell you. But all is fine cause some random Georgian visited France and it was lovely, right?
You're experiencing the same thing Bald is experiencing. It's the best the country/city has to offer and you're experiencing it in a small window of time. It's why you thought Paris was great and why Bald thinks a place like London is shit. You can make a very strong argument for the west being better than the impoverished east, but you're still only experiencing a glimpse of that location.
Something comparable would be here in the states many kids run off and attend some university in another state. They might live there for years, but only end up experiencing that city within their college bubble (which is VERY much a bubble). They likely won't have anything bad to say about the larger area/city as a whole, cause they were essentially a tourist. Ask anyone that was born and raised there and you will get a different response.
Preach, brotha
But to be fair, people living there mostly compare it to other cities that they visit and only see the good parts of, so you won´t really get a good answer out of them either. Most people are just cynical when you ask them how their city is.
Exactly. The argument Gattsu is presenting makes no sense because his view of France compared to Georgia is skewed based on a couple weeks in the nicest part of the country as opposed to a country which literally was at war 15 years ago. A very disingenious image of Western Europe is being painted as being this paradise where everyone of all cultures and creeds live in harmony or some other kumbaya bullshit, but ask the average person who actually lives in these countries (no, it isn't just grifters like Tate who say the West isn't in the best shape) and they'll completely disagree. Especially those in England, France or Germany.
@@steirerbua5322 Something something the grass is always greener. The west might have problems but the rest of the world would kill to live here.
@@Light-20 Well that's because people who hate the uk have to live in Birmingham
Bro you took a masterworks sponsorship, you're in no position to claim the moral high ground.
Bro. Romania is not just Tate. We didn't choose him. It's also probably safer than Paris... just cross the street if you see Tate.
No one is saying Romania is the worst place on earth, what he's trying to say is that the reason why Tate is living in Romania is not because Romania is better than USA, is because Tate is a pedo/rapist running from police.
PS: Romania isn't safer than Paris.
It IS safer than in Paris, but let's be honest, Bucharest isn't an extremely beautiful city. Brasov is awesome, though.
I’m a US citizen traveling around Europe and I’m so shocked how beautiful and clean those cities are .
@@SuperBrahimosBRO THERE IS NO TOURIST AREA IN NORTH KOREA 😂😂
@@SuperBrahimos bro North Korea doesn’t allow visitors unless u are someone hand picked from the NK officials
You've clearly never been to Birmingham
@@eikwal7396 the fuck are you talking about, there are videos of tours in North Korea all over youtube
You've clearly never been to hamburg or Berlin lmao
Gattsu, my brother in Christ. Our countries being Scheiße year round do not invalidate the natives when they say stuff has gotten worse for them. People would not be as angry as they are for no reason at all.
You have become so used to see decadence all around being the norm, that you fail to spot it growing elsewhere.
Also being a tourist for a couple days in the best part of a country does not represent it's reality.
the problem is that people are constantly comparing the best of eastern europe with the worst of western europe.
"look at how nice warsaw is, and how filthy Berlin is".
but no one ever looks at the underdeveloped areas of Poland and compares them to Berlin. no one compares thousands of remote idyllic swedish towns with the underdeveloped semi-soviet backwater areas of Hungary.
it always circles back to Capitals, to the big cities, the places where different people collide, because if they did they'd realize that there is a reason why people, from eastern europe to asia, from africa and arabia, keep coming to europe.
@@boarfaceswinejaw4516 I agree, which is why I think this video is misleading. He describes the west as a utopia because of his short trip to Paris. If that's not the epitome of "the grass is greener on the other side", I don't know what is.
@@kiki88561 But the grass is greener, as I moved from developing country to there. I could hardly scrape by at an entry-level engineer job where I from. Here? Got half of the salary left to throw out of the window. Quality of life is better and people are more tolerant (where I'm from, If I get 1$ for everytime a Black person step on a bus and someone started commenting on his skin color, I could buy a sick guitar at the end of the year). There's a reason why brain drain is getting more serious.
@@zannierzan9634 No doubt you're right, I still think the video is incredibly misleading though. Also what did you mean by brain drain getting more serious? What are you talking about, I don't understand
@@kiki88561 Globalisation is making it easier to move to a new country and information is readily available on the internet, plus tons of new incentives for skilled professionals in Europe. Unlike refugees, they wouldn't try to immigrate to a country just because they heard rumor that quality of life is better there.
Agreed. Im from switzerland and have been to Paris twice. By far the most disgusting city ive visited.
Average swiss anywhere they go (it isn't perfect utopia)
Breaking news Swiss man finds out every other country is worse than his own.
When you live your whole life in Switzerland everything else will seem shit by comparison
@@aJamBiscuit I live in Basel, right next to the German and French border, France its more and more scuffed the further you get form Prais due to its centralisitic nature. Paris as a whole is overrated. Cities like Lyon I find much nicer.
You never go to brussels XD😅😅😅😅
Copium is good for your health
While I dont believe the "Vest Has Vallen" , I believe the stereotypes are there for a reason. I live in NYC right now and it is the worst thing I have ever experienced, when I moved to Georgia (the state not country), the vibe, community and everything else was just multitudes better. I think it's less so to do with the country but more so particular parts of the country that are just horrendous.
interesting, i've experienced the opposite. I lived in South Carolina (Spartanburg specifically) from birth till 2 years ago when i turned 28. I moved because I felt there was no real community. I believe that centuries of miserable history, exploitation, and decades of corrupt politics have birthed a people of, terrible pride, hostility, and hatred. It felt like in the South people will smile at you and offer you hospitality, but what lives in their hearts is typically quite different. Now I'm in Hartford CT, and the community and positivity I feel are exponentially higher.
Granted, NYC to GA is quite different from SC to CT, but I still find it interesting. Maybe NYC just sucks lol
i believe all big cities suck equally west and east south and north if the city has over 3 mil population avoid at all costs
tbh one thing everyone could agree with is the fact that leaving big cities is a good choice, its been shown in many polls that people living in rural villages are often way way wayyyyy more happy than people who live in big metropolises like new york, san francisco, los angeles, miami, washington. etc, You get the same thing but even better if you move from the US to a rural country like georgia for example where people also uphold culture instead of allowing it to vanish in turn for stuff like lgbtq and all that,
like countries that uphold cultures, despite financial issues with many people living there, are usually many times happier than here in the west where most of us have good financial situations (for now
@@valyshknee4203 yep I knew it, I replied to ur comment about uk and how u wished to live in east and ofc "uphold culture instead of allowing it to vanish in turn for stuff like lgbtq" 🤓
Totally with you on this one.
Bro visits Paris once and thinks everything in the West is great. Yes you are an entertainer but that's like me saying I was in St. Petersburg once and everything is great there.
Honestly St. Petersburg makes every single city in the United States and Canada look like shit
I mean St. Petersburg does look pretty dope. I'm sure it's got some issues beyond just being in Russia but still doesn't look that bad. I wouldn't go saying it's anywhere near as good of a place to live as like Boston but it looks decent. If you have a decent ammount of money pretty much anywhere will be fine.
i lived in st. petersburg for a while in 2013 and it was a hellhole.
russia is for a fact a pure shithole
@@xxklesx1why is that? Too overcrowded? Nepotism from russian authorities to solve the simplest issues (cleaning snow from sidewalks during winter) or other stuff?
Ah yes you visited some of the richest nicest areas of Paris. Go walk around Gare du Nord and see all the great harmony there
Or Saint denis at night
Ah yes the west has fallen innit
did you not watch the video?
@@sofiafuentes6727 😂😂😂
@@sofiafuentes6727 "did you not watch the video?"
okay chump, do you have actually any evidence to disprove these "west fallen" people?
not some experience or anecdote but like statistics
I think I do have which are all in favor "west fallen" people
to quote
"A total of 3 039 offenders were included in the analysis. A majority of them were immigrants (n = 1 800; 59.2%) of which a majority (n = 1 451; 47.7%) were born outside of Sweden"
or just eyeballing
UK has 257 rapes per 100k while France has 64
btw Mexico has 30
just think about it
in a way this guy is telling the people of france, people of England, people of Germany that their day to day life is lie. What they experienced is a lie
to him rotterdam sex circle where 2000 english little girls of ages under 13 got sexually exploited by bunch of immigrants and authorities knew it but they didn't do a shit because they were afraid of being called "racist"
Paris literally is a shithole with no go zones and trash all over, I know cause I live here. But if you go anywhere but Paris in France it could be lovely.
Yeah but he is a Georgian and gypsysplained your lived reality away with a whining zoomer video with LE BASED MEMES XDDD so he is right
I've heard Marseilles is the same
Don’t go to Marseilles
I go on Google streetview and there's plenty of clean places in Paris.
j’y ai vécu 6 ans, c’était en effet pas terrible, mais en revenant visiter franchement je trouvais ça bien plus accueillant que dans mes souvenirs
I went to Germany for a week, and it is very beautiful, however berlin was disgusting, at least in the area I stayed. Poland was beautiful and amazing, and Denmark was unique with interesting history. I'd recommend it
Berlin is not that good tbh...
@@obamahamburgersussyballs2574 krakow is beautiful though, I highly suggest it
Berlin has fallen!
@@krustenkak5129 Berlin Neuköllen has fallen!
No, berlin has not fallen. Berlin is still united
Literally been in Paris just some days ago and I had the exact same expectations as you when you went there. "Not even close as beautiful as in movies or stories portrayed" (just an example) and I was so fucking surprised how beautiful this city is. I have to mention that I was only around in the touristic and probably more weathly areas but still it was a great experience!
My mom went there in may for a weekend and she complained about only one thing: that they couldn't drive inside the city. Outside of that she loved every second of it- she ate some good french food (frog thighs) and drank genuine french wine.
But WeAsT has fallen
Tbf thats like every city lmfao.
Its like in Hawaii. Sure the ranches and the resorts are amazing. But actually living there is hell cus of the tourism and the house prices.
I went to Disneyland and saw a bunch of ghettos on the way my friends in the car where Muslims even they thought it was bad it reminded them of their home country but worse.
I and my mom been there too. It's a shithole. At least with the annoying east afro migrants trying to illegally sell you cheap shit!
Im parisian, you're lying.
Its not that these places a bad places to live in. Its that they are becoming worse than they were yesterday.
I mean of course the wealthy tourist spots and neighborhoods are pretty safe and great but you try and make enough money to live in the city center
It's called a recession. Things got worse in 2008 and then they got better again
@@UserOfTheName its not about the economy
@@kuusipuy8650 That's about the cause of 99 percent of my gripes in my western country. Shits expensive
@@UserOfTheName My gripes stand more in line with not being able to safely walk outside during the night. The economy can be fixed culture is more difficult
Every country as a tourist is amazing lad, even Mongolia 🤷🏽♂️
@@waterisbasedn0oo u can't glorify a murderer!!!!!!!!!!
Builds massive horse solider statue im the middle of a plains
Did you not see the part where Ulaanbaatar has the worst pollution in the world
have you ever been in mongolia?
@@nicolaswirtz I don't need to to see the point of the argument
i live in a conservative third world country, and if u have a lot of money here, you will live an amazing life, way better than working class and even rich people in western countries because everything here is cheaper and the nature is beautiful, but if u dont have a lot of money u will live a horrible difficult life, while middle class or working people in the west still manage to live comfortable and respectable life, thats the difference between the west and the east
It depends. If you mean "cheap" is going to a stinky unsanitized market full of flies then no. The grocery store that's owned by big retail companies in third-world countries is good as in first-world countries but it's more expensive for the third-world middle class.
@@UnknownOverwatchSoldier there’s no such thing as unsanitary markets where I’m from, even the cheap markets are very well taken care of, and yes the big markets here are the sam prices as in western countries unfortunately, but people here don’t get paid as well as people in the west
you said it yourself. the reason the west is expensive is because almost everyone in those countries have a stable and equal income unlike eastern countries where 1% of the population makes millions while the rest lives in poverty
@@lanne9938 yes that’s one way to see the difference
Help develop your country man!
"The bar of my country is so low, that your country seems like a paradise in comparison."
"And somehow, my bar being so low negates everything you might not like about the state of your country, because mine is worse"
@@riograndedosulball248 I don't think the video was meant to show that though, just that you should let some Tiktok videos let you distract from how different the bars are, and think one is better due to a rather negligible reason.. He makes it pretty clear in the video that it is aimed at people who have never been to these countries and only consume these videos, not the actual inhabitants. They already know what life there is like.
You've lived your entire life with everything you need I literally cannot comprehend how you find the energy to complain as if you were just born. Childish.
You're american bro your bar is the lowest on earth
You are just as guilty of this as they are tho. You came as a tourist the footage there of the Netherlands is in the city center of Amsterdam by the looks of it not in the bijlmer or maybe Rotterdam-Zuid or hell Kanaleneiland Utrecht. I can use the same logic here tho i didn't get assaulted at my visits of Kiev, Chelyabinsk, st Petersburg or Moscow. Belgrade was one of the cleanest cities i have seen when compared to western cities. The priest in Dubrovnik Croatia that married me and my wife as a surprise (we where both visiting i didn't marry an easyern european mail order bride incase that gets thrown around) helped me with the arrangements and keeping it a secret for my wife that we would be marrying there. I could walk around Budapest city center take a video and go "wow this place is a paradise" just as easily. Culturally there are problems tho you talk about the LGBT because youre expecting the poor oppressed ones yet i come from the country where they legalized gay marriage first but apperently that still isn't enough and the gay people in my personal life oppose the pride parades, tell me what's so great about men in fetish gear walking in front of children? Tolerance going too far is about as much of an issue as no tolerance at all as people tend to take an arm when given a finger.
A Venezuelan Uber driver told me he was impressed with the US police because they do their jobs. This was after the Floyd controversy.
😂😬 How low were that man's standards for how he expected the police to act in his country?
Gattsu goes to a country with the largest amounts of tourism per year in the world and is surprised how he had a good tourist experience.
Proceeds to make his rosy tourist picture the basis of the societal structure of the collective west, admitting that you haven't been outside the tourist Disneyland and seen how normal people live.
I ain't hating, I love tourism, nor do I think the West has fallen™. But I think it's dishonest to paint a picture of a society spanning dozens of countries by visiting the most touristy country of the world.
P.S. My favourite tourist destination was 10 days in Georgia (Kutaisi, Borjomi, Tbilisi & bumfuck nowhere villages. ❤WizzAir❤)
I agree, I love Gattsu, but saying that Europe doesn't smell like piss and there is no crime means he's never been to Spain (i live in spain)
>visits during tourism season
>"LOOK GUISES PARIS - A TOURISTIC HOTSPOT - IS WAYYY CLEANER THAN THE INTERNET MAKES IT UP TO BE"
yeah it's not like their local economy depends on being able to shove aside problems like the homeless and gangs. Paris police has compared trying to control those last ones as a "secret war".
ill say this lets be straight i live in jamaica i know people who have lived in europe for protracted periods of time(including in the hood) and ill just say this according to every singlke one of them they would rather live theyre than in jamaica even if you just compare the hoods from each country compare mitte berlin to tivoli gardens jamaica and youll get what im saying
I went to Paris back in 2015 and it was indeed completely busted. The city center did smell like sewers, it was indeed dirty af, trash everywhere, had homeless kids wandering around asking for food and money in stores & restaurants, literally stumbled upon a Hollywood-tier police car chase. Though I believe you, they might’ve got their stuff together ever since I’ve visited it. I’ve traveled to London a year later, back in 2016, and everything was super pristine.
went there at about the same timeframe but i think the reason for that was the immigration crisis also the former mayor was kinda stupid
no, they haven't. It's more or less the same. I guess this guy doesn't travel a lot, and when you come from Georgia things just seem a lot better than they are
@@dragosi8980 yeah the west has fallen right?
@@cia5649 it depends. They are still waaay better off than most of the world, but they are going down. But Paris itself is way overrated. Go to Barcelona
@@dragosi8980 paris is overated but so is barcelona nowadays better to go malaga tbh if you want spain or albania if you want cheap and sunny weather
Try living in a western country, its much different than being a tourist
yeah it isnt bad at all living here
I live here for 6 years already. It's pretty good comparing to the most of the world.
Ok I live in a western country and have my entire life. Its pretty swell here. What now?
bro I have lived here my entire life, and its good (im middle class). Some of you complain about everything you see online and act as if that shit happens in real life. Get a life little bro
I live in a Western country. And I would definitely not live anywhere outside Western Europe.
bro went to paris once
Gattsu is out here unable to understand what culture is. The West is deteriorating, and calling all these people ped*s will not validate your opinions on the bigger matters. The West was completely unrivalled in the past, but over the years it has fallen from that state. Maybe for a poor dude from Georgia it doesn't mean anything, but for ITS people, it's their home. You haven't lived in France or any Western country it seems, or had parents who helped build that foundation for a better future, but love to brag bout merely visiting them. Life is expensive and difficult here for many nowadays, and there are problems beyond your comprehension. If Canada ever does accept your visa application for you to live and work here, maybe you'll start to understand what those problems are when in practice. When people complain about the West falling, most everyday people I know aren't even thinking about some third-world country which no one here cares about. There's a reason that like 8/10 people you stop on the streets here would not be able to point out Ukraine on a map. We simply don't give a sh*t. We got our own lives here from OUR ancestors before, and opening the gates to (majority) less educated immigrants to increase competition is stressful, and creates feelings of unease in most well-established communities here already.
“WAAAAH IMMIGRANTS (brown people) MAKE ME MAD!!!!” Sounds like a skill issue. Cry about it.
Yup, kinda rich for a tourist from the armpit of Europe to claim he knows more than the natives after spending a few days in the tourist traps. Of course when compared to Georgia everything in the West is better because of the comparatively poorer standard of living in his country, but those of us who still remember what the West was like in the 90s or early 2000s can see the deteriorations.
The west has fallen, the idea thst Oklahoman is the same man as Parisian is dead and gone.
I can say young dudes cant seem to find a girl in their own countires due to a perverse dating market. Much of this is due to dating apps and a shallow culture and there should be a discussion about toxic dating culture and toxic femininity. Its necessary to address the toxic nu males in the room but we shouldn't let toxic women off the hook either.
West has fallen
Evidence: there are bad women
As a german i can promis you we have a lot of refugees running around and commiting crimes, just stay a couple of months in a major city here and you will see for yourself
i live in Athens. Never seen it
@@ilgeorgioahp543i am Speaking about germany
@@ilgeorgioahp543 Nigga athens aint a German city
@EuropeForEuropeansFalanga whaaat?
@@ilgeorgioahp543lol go to omonoia you rtrd tourist
aged like a milk
yeah, France is one of the most developed places on earth and 10 times safer than the incredible Romania. LOL
perhaps what people means is "the west could be better." Although not the west, my part of Japan is literally like a third world country and I hate it so much here. We used to have a better economy, now you can't even make $2000 entry level when graduating in a college degree in my prefecture (remote island.) Everyone drinks and nomikais, and if youre not an alcoholic its hard for dating/work/friendship. So I cope and seethe by looking at how we were different at one point, and sometimes I feel like moving to SEA on a USD income, similar to what youre doing in georgia
someone please get me the hell out of northern japan
you live on the islands near russia?
that explains the alcoholism lmfao
This guy romances west europe way too much.
Yeah I forget what it's called but there's a name for the common phonomonon when people travel for the first time and think everything in the new place is way better then it is because of rose covered glasses.
I also think the whole "le west has fallen" thing is silly but Paris is a horrible example that place is an actual flaming dumpster fire of a society compared to most English/dutch speaking countries.
West Europe is great, globohomo "europe" isn't
Fr. Bro went to a literal tourist city and said how great the country is. I'm sure if a person went to see the mountains for a day in Georgia, they would also say how nice the country is. Living in said country is a different story...
If you've grown up outside of the West, you start to appreciate the West far more. So many Westerners have only lived in the West and like so it's easy to see everything wrong with your local environment without realizing how much worse it can actually be. You neve know how good you have it till it's gone. It's like people in my Nordic country complain about poverty, when poverty here means that you have an apartment, a bed, money to buy food from the government, and access to healthcare and education for free. But you can't go drink in bars, or eat out in restaurants, so it's considered poverty. Meanwhile, I used to live in a country where thousands people literally lived in "homes" made out of trash and had to wash themselves in dirty water from the city. That was their poverty.
People just don't understand the difference.
@@AK-jm1sc I understand your point but this guy thinks that everything West Europe nations do is Flowers and Roses and also how he knows everything about a place he just visit as a Tourist for just a few days.
If you disagree with the statement the west has fallen (or is failing) you need to seriously come and live here for a number of years (15 for me in the UK), deal with the everyday crap, see how it's all going downhill and then you'll understand what people mean because right now you haven't got a fucking clue. A two week stay in a hotel in Paris isn't going to tell you the truth or show you the bigger picture and speaking of France, look at the farmers protesting currently and throwing literal shit over government buildings. We've clearly peaked here in the west....
Edit: A lot of US Citizens would struggle to find Europe, let alone Georgia on a map but sure they have the best education system in the world
🤣 I know you want that Visa bro but seriously, be more subtle about it
The UK has its problems but overall its a beautiful country with a shitty government. The west hasn't fallen
Least unpatriotic brit
@@curiousman365520% of children in the UK are currently growing up in poverty but go on 💀
save Europe
From what?
@@logangonzalez-patton3121 the greatest issue, obesity and parachuting incidents.
“save europe”-🤓
@yagzefegames7957 eh, in a serious problem, yes, the smarts will save europe
@@logangonzalez-patton3121illegal migrant stabbings and liberalism
I do believe that people are overacting that the west is "falling." However, I do believe that it is in decline and some guy visiting a tourism hotspot in western Europe saying how great it is gives me the same vibes as some guy visiting Dubai and saying how nice the middle east is.
you've clearly never been to the middle east.
it's really not that bad, its not hell.
its rather normal, just people drive motorcycles instead of cars since thats too expensive and more apartments
plus the middle east is so much more than saudi arabia
@@stray8468 No, I haven't but I know not all of the middle East is nice like Dubai and not all of the West is safe like the tourist parts. I agree though, the much of the middle East is nice.
@@thecosmos729it's funny because usually it's the exact opposite, tourist hotspot = bad, the rest of the other countries are good
Edit: also, there's really nothing wrong with going into tourist hotspot, really at the end of the day, it's depends on the context and you, the individual. I lived in Bali, another well known tourist hotspot, and you can go there and think the rest of indonesia is like it, because honestly, it kinda does, though I will recommend you to go outside of the big cities if you want to truly experience it
@@thecosmos729Edit: I also disagree with the whole "the west is in decline", because if that's the case, the entire world is in decline. Honestly, I have never been to the west before, but just like gatsu, i didn't have the privilege to be born in those countries, I think people who said things like this are just pessimists, doomers, or people who are not really grateful. I can see why people would think like it, but every countries have their own ups and downs, no countries are perfect, life sucks life hard, sometimes you just need to slip through the cracks, and sometimes, it's all depends on the individual on how they can get themselves out of a really shitty situation
This. I loved Canada when I moved in. I fucking hate it now, Toronto has become India. And no its not racism, I literally couldn’t care less about Indians or any other races until I started interacting with them.
But Canada used to be real good place just 10 years ago.
West isn't falling
source : this dude visited a couple tourist destinations in paris
Living in france, i can agree, france is worst country in europe, how is this guy visiting champs Elysées for 3 days, never going into french politics, and french situations, where france literaly is producing european terrorists, wonder why
This comment still doesn't prove how the west is falling
I live in The paris suburb (in Versailles) and the city of Toulon, and unlike you I can say that what you said is complete bullshit. I never had any problem in the street in my entire life (even going in shitty places)
So shut the f up when you never put a foot in the French soil.
Well, prove him wrong then, jester.
West isn't falling
source: falling crime rate, increasing life expectancy, continued ecomic dominance, Russian failure in Ukraine and OPEC moving to irrelevance.
This is why you shouldn't get your information from TH-cam. The crime rate in the UK is high and much higher than it used to be. Holidays aren't the same as living in these countries.
i think the point is that the west still is a much better living area then most areas
@@chigchong2805 I've only lived in the west so couldn't comment on that. Plus I think it's very much on your own personal values and expectations aswell
@@jasonjames6870 it is
@@chigchong2805The country sides, absolutely. but inner cities are the definition of “the west has fallen”.
@@reservationatdorsias3215 that too no, western cities have more crime now i guess. but less affluent countries big cities have it worse
"the west has fallen"
>spends most of his life not in the west
as is the way of swarthoids
What?
what
I agree with you gattsu, it's a great video, but talking about the recent riots in France concerning the death of the 17 years old guy, it wasnt a good idea mentioning them the way you did. The riots were not for him, they were an excuse for looting they did not hide their intentions, and the victim, althrough its sad that he died, was a petty criminal endangering peoples in the street. The shooting may or not have been justified, it is the justice role to judge not people. There is a real problem in france but it's not about immigration, it's about subhurbs population who came from immigrant backgrounds and are prone to crime for a lot of reasons.
Thats how most protests end up unfortunately. Bad people use what was supposed to be good to do damage, but i think its the media that blows everything out of proportion because it was a black kid.
For example, a yter Donut Operator has a videoabout a shooting where in america a white teen with his gf was eating a burger in his car and a cop thought they were in a stolen vehicle because it looked similar to one; so when he pointed his gun at them and they reversed away he shot at the kid and he was hospitalised but lived. But there was no huge media thing over that or riots as far as i think. But when George Floyd, a criminal ON DRUGS dies (most likely from the drugs) after another police mistake suddenly it's this huge thing.
Sensationalist media that is overly negative is a big problem.
@@aJamBiscuitindeed, medias are a cause, btw he was arabic not black but your point still stands
@@leilagorrilla4842 mb i didn't really follow it
A kid getting stabbed in Grasse, a father loosing an arm to a grenade in aubervilliers and a penitentiary truck that got attacked in the span of 24 hours but "France is going well"
Edit : yeah also forgot to mention that the guard of the truck was killed in the attack
Oh yeah and let's just not forget how Marseille is now almost it's own state being owned by gangs funding their own proxy wars to the nearest cities to get a hold in it and the government admitting that they couldn't do anything
So youre saying france is bad because of... 3 crimes. suuure
That happens almost in every country. He means west has it’s pros and cons but it doesn’t mean those coyntries are complitely shitholes.
@@jt3963 yeah people getting killed every week is not an indicator of in how much shit the country is in yeah also don't ask why there are narcostates it's normal and not an inicator of a shit country oh yeah let's not ask ourselves why the japanese came into our capital to "teach us to clean" judging by how dirty it is yeah the country is absolutely normal it's not like we are putting ourselves into almost bankrupcy too right...?
@@jt3963it does NOT happen in every country, you wont hear about this happen in today's slovenia for example, especially the thing is most of these are NOT done by people who are native from the place
West has truly fallen (My leg has never walked on any of western countries)
Clearly hasn’t been to London 😂😂😂
I can speak for it as I live in london. It’s all fun n games for tourists until you gotta live here. Cost of living keeps going up, not enough housing, police understaffed and underequiped, docters and nurses leaving + insane wait time not to mention crime. I could go on and on lol
Would you rather live in London or Mongolia? Or London or Mexico City? No where is PERFECT but London is one of the best cities in the world even with all those problems
Yes that’s I’d rather live in London and I’m very grateful for it. But i don’t let gratitude blind me to problems as acknowledging them is the first step to fixing them. Many things in your life are controllable. Food you eat. Things you buy and subscribe to, etc… It’s all consent. Your external reflects your internal and vice versa.
drink every time gattsu says “people live in harmony”
"people live in harmony"
gets stabbed in wonderful london by bazza
He got an euro from the EU everytime he could squeeze it in the video
“people live in harmony” get stabbed right outside of his school (paris)
Gets phone snatched out hands seconds away from work...@@Light-20
thats a very long "muh lived experience" video. While i dont agree with the message that the west is 'ruined' this was just 'i saw this' and 'i never see that', i see this pattern in every video, it gets old 😑
Love you Gatsu, but this video aint it
Methinks you hate Africans
@@Jc-yu2ot africans are based and redpilled
BRO YOU ARE NOT EUROPEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
bro went to the tourist parts of Western Europe and thinks the whole of it is like that =)) i'm dead
You see videos from the worst places and then wonder why they are so shit. I'm dead and imagine my shock😂
@@ArturBaidiWell it’s a problem when the bad places are most of the city you dunce.
Honestly Paris in general is more dangerous than Tbilisi...
paris is also 5 times bigger so ofc it will be more crime
@@Vlad_956why is it that none of the western apologists can comprehend per capita
@@_Zuka but still paris aint kabul a fucin warzone its a big city and its nirmal to experience some crime
ok alternatehistory
@@Vlad_956 paris: Crime Index: 57.66
Safety Index: 42.34
tbilisi: Crime Index: 25.57
Safety Index: 74.43
crime rate by PER CAPITA is embarrassingly higher than in tbilisi, and we both know why
It's not fallen completely, but the West is definitely declining. As someone who was born and raised in Britain (and still lives there), it has hit its peak.
It's easier to get annoyed and sick of whqt you're familar with and I understand your grudges with Georgia. But here’s why some look at Eastern Europe, Central Asia and China with rose tinted glasses- the opportunity to improve is definitely a thing. Although I will say as someone with a Dad born and raised in China, how much such a place can improve in the next 30 years is very subjective.
The opportunity for the West to improve is finished because everyone has become complacent. Instead it's everyone arguing over luxury beliefs and social programs. But of course, the West has questionable age demographics and some can't work out what a man or woman really is.
"The West has fallen" is an eulogy for the future, not a precise snapshot of its current state
And the false assault thing is a reflection of the fear that m3n have towards women with nefarious intention, hence some men withdrawing from socialising and flirting
You dont even know that tho. What makes you think this is any other than an economic downturn?
And what I've noticed that people like you really mean when you say "the west can't differentiate a man and a woman", you always seem to imply traditional gender roles as if that's the only option. A woman does not have to do feminine things, that's the beauty of the west.
As a Romanian, I agree. Most Romanians think of Britain as some sort of heaven. Here people always envy the west and believe that Romania will always have “corrupt politicians and corrupt priests”. But as someone who visited Britain, although you have nice architecture and history, I would not like to live there or raise my children there. You have lgbt flag everywhere, even in kids toy shops and schools. You dont have religion. Your country doesnt even seem like a country. In Romania we are 98% Christian, we have tradition and culture.
You know those weird white guys who are obsessed with anime and japanese culture, thinking Japan is paradise. Gattsu is the same, but his deal is North America and Western Europe. Just looking at a number on a paycheck is completely meaningless. A pack of cigarettes in Iran is $2, and in Norway its $14. People in Spain, Croatia, Italy etc live with their parents until they are 30+ because they can't afford a place of their own. A middle-class couple who both work full-time can't afford a place in the greater Toronto metropolitan area. If you think the world is unfair you can relax, the quality of life in the West has been steadily going down since the 90s, and it's not stopping.
Literally
So you think Iran is better off because a pack of cigarettes costs 2$ there?
"A pack of cigarettes in Iran is $2, and in Norway its $14." What this tells you is that you'll be healthier in Norway
@@pakkacae4830 most intelligent gattsu fan:
@@RecordedMercury And the award for weakest rebuttal goes to...
My friend was in Paris last week, he did indeed confirm that there are homeless people around every corner, garbage on the streets, and heavily armed police.
Yeah i saw the same. Was disgusting
but reddit said its all fake!
I lived there, can confirm it was gross then and it’s worse now.
But some random Georgian TH-camr who gets a sponsorship from an aviation company disagrees with you, so you must be wrong :^)
Diversity being a strength strikes again!
i used to watch bald and bankrupt but damn these kind of people got rightfully exposed for what they are
As someone who frequents paris i have actually witnessed someone be killed near the Eiffel tower, and two people be assaulted, both by refugees in less than 24 hrs
Cool anecdote!
@@Precipiceofwindthis whole video is an anecdote bro
@@Precipiceofwind There is a reason gendarmes have to march in groups of six with assault rifles(FAMAS) and they dont have to do that here in denver
@@taylorshipman1045police in the US all have ARs in their patrol cars
@@jamesmcpherson8599 police in the US do not have to patrol the city in escort formation with assault rifles on sight at all times.
The west is awful. Yes. I feel considerably more secure and at ease in Eastern Europe. You traveled to 'Paris', saw the Eiffel Tower, a pleasant park, and it was 'wonderful'. Sure. You are very uneducated; I have family all throughout Western countries, and what they say in private about the situation of their small communities is not heard in public. Then they are startled when people like Wilders, Meloni, Austria's far right, Le Pen's party, or the AfD win elections. They feel hopeless because politicians are uninterested in listening to their local issues and concerns.
this entire guy’s personality is like this as you mentioned. look through his videos and community posts. not only does he fall for the tracks of the west, but he makes fun of other nations (like mine), for being “over nationalistic” and “backwards”. the moment georgia became an eu observer, he became like this just to get a french visa. you can’t be saying stuff about other countries when you’re from the 3rd world nation of georgia. he seems to have a thing for turks and russians too. honestly, it’s pathetic. as you mentioned there, some of our relatives in the west also suffer despite having a better quality of life. he doesn’t realise he’s a TOURIST.
As if Eastern Europe was much better with their corruption. Nobody said the West was a perfect utopia, but the fact is there are more people immigrating to Western Europe than Eastern Europe.
As someone who has traveled to Eastern Europe, except for the safety, I'd much rather live in the West.
Isn't Eastern Europe apart of the west?
Gattsu gets American citizenship with this video
To be quite fair, Paris IS a dirty city and full of dog poop and rats everywhere, but it is also beautiful. And also its dirtiness isn't a "fallen Paris", it was always like this.
also
>it's so good to see all these immigrants living together in peace
>pans over a bunch of white people, not an ahmed in sight
very honest representation bro
bro who refers to them as an "Ahmed"
@@pehzspeedruns would "sandn*gger" have been better?
Yeah he’s clearly a racist and has problems with immigrants
Theres literally black/brown people in some of these Paris shots
because there are no white immigrants, right?
"France is filled with everyone living in harmony"
*Shows footage of kurombo riots in Paris*
Something isn't quite adding up here...
Tbilisi will not fall! masterworks is a kinda sus sponsor but I respect the grind
he getting that bag
Tbilisi will not fall if we don't allow R*ssian, Arab, Armenian, Persian, and Turk migrants in 😢. Especially r*ssians 🤢🤮.
Gattsu, I believe you haven't lived anywhere in the West and you're completely out of touch with how life is there. I'd say it's wiser to dedicate an entire video to praising the West only when you've spent a significant amount of time LIVING there.
he’s like this because his irrelevant national became an eu candidate
Alright, well as someone who has lived in the west my entire life, the west has not fallen, that’s cope from people who live in actual shitholes.
(Anywhere east of Greece or west of Taiwan)
sorry but this bs. I am starting to feel like you wannabe a westerner .Its ok , but you are criticising the other half of the coin, without living or experiencing life in Western countries just visiting them for couple days.
He seems to be larping as a middle class westerner
Of course he is, bro wants his EU visa but can't get it since he doesn't look brown and violent enough.
I live in the west in a heavy immigrant neighbourhood its good bro dont let the bottom G tell you your news
Gotta leave it to the kid with an asian caricature as his profile pic to say "akshually the west has fallen gattsu!"
@@cyrusthegreat7030 Immigrants from what country? Is it a historical immigrant neighbourhood?
I do not disagree with your video, but I think as much as I agree with it, this video will age like milk.
yeah, the west hasn't fallen. It is falling
Why?
@@ebystrowski Just look a Brazil to see Europe's future
@@ebystrowski because aparently the west will fall any minute now lol
@@vladsky44 im praying for it to fall faster 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Dude visits Paris once
Knows everything
Well the point of the video was to show that the first world isn’t worse than the third world. A lot of people looking at the west like it’s Yemen or something, thinking that western countries are apocolyptic. Which obviously is not, but I’ve never been to Europe so it might be a lot worse than I thought, can’t judge without going there, too much misinformation.
im from paris and i'm glad you liked it but 😬😬😬 even us recognize that it isn't the city it used to be
*This video is sponsored by the World Economic Forum*
Love this comments section.
Crapping on your own culture's to own the libs
The west hasn't really fallen but there's been SERIOUS issues . Like Sweden genuinely did get irreversibly changed especially with crime and demographics
They handled the mass immigration quite bad.
They could have easily handled the amount but they didnt and now they have gang problems
Do you live in Sweden?
@@ALotOfCancer no , but I know several people that do
Yeah, Sweden is a textbook example of what not to do.
its more poverty then demographics