@@Dracobyte They still exist, even after being annihilated, and there is a dark age faction called the clave that are hinted at being Wolverine descendants. I'd say just surviving is a win.
Food for thought. The player always single handedly wins every battle ever...... and they are starting off as Smoked Jag...... Every NPC gangsta until the Player shows up on the other team.
Clan Mongoose are a great parallel to Smoke Jaguar. Mongoose got rofl-stomped by the Jaguars, and the other Clans just watched because of how much Mongoose were hated for being dicks. Then, when the spheroids came for Smoke Jaguar, no one helped because the Jags were massive dicks. It's actually quite funny.
And it's even funnier when you remember the details of the Londerholm revolt. Other Clans made noise about the Jaguars massacring their civilians at the time, but Khan Ian Moon insisted that the issue was an internal Smoke Jaguar matter and other Clans had no business meddling in Jaguar affairs. Well, when Task Force Serpent landed on Huntress and Lincoln Osis was begging other Clans for help, the other Clans used the same logic to justify leaving the Jaguars to fend for themselves. The irony was through the roof.
@@mam162 More funnier. They seek help from those Warden Clan and Home Clan with don't want to help them. While the supposed guardian of Clanners likes both Wolf and Jade Falcon were put on life support. So no one help them in time of need because the Clanners were so stupid. And those clans who thought the old Clan way was too smooth stupid brain went to Inner Sphere with have brighter future than living with them. **Clan Wolverine warning came back to bite all of them in the ass**
@@graveyard1979 Yeah, Capellans might be sneaky, underhanded, backstabbing, communists! But they are EFFECTIVE, sneaky, underhanded, backstabbing, communists.
Well, until Iclan era. The Wolf somehow managed to brainwash the Bear leadership so they launched a civil war in the Dominion ... Then wounded Bears decided that external threat is good for deflecting the questions about what the F*** just happened (a third of Dominion armed forces just gone...) by provoking the now mighty Dragons
Imagine thinking you're slick, choosing a batchall of the Football from the Americas, It's so obscure no one would know how to play it. Ghost Bear show up with gene engineered super players that just so happen to moonlight as Elementals
Smoke Jaguar: "What did I do to deserve this!?" Wolf: "..." Diamond Shark: "..." Ghost Bear: "..." Comstar: "..." Fedcom: "..." Draconis: "..." Smoke Jaguar: "I mean what SPECIFICALLY!?"
Even though their game is coming out soon and somebody may click on this and go, "OMG- spoilers!", keep in mind that Smoked Kitty losing has been known to the fandom for decades. I recommend going into the game with a Halo Reach mentality- your faction is gonna lose, but what will happen to you and your star? Current Objective: Survive
Hate that kind of games. You win and win again than game just says: and then you lost. Mokery of player agency, but can work with proper cinematic experience.
@Whanevs Reach was about degrees of loss and was excellent. It perfectly captured that Spartans win all the battles but the war against the covenant was unwinnable.
@@Grazui It perfectly encapsulates what John thought in _The_ _Fall_ _of_ _Reach_: On the ground, they always won. However, winning on the ground is meaningless if your fleet can't maintain at least orbital superiority, if not orbital dominance. Which itself illustrates why planetary invasions are dumb.
@@Whanevs You must HATE knowing where you're going for vacation. I mean, what's the point in the journey, if the destination is predetermined, right? With games like Reach, the JOURNEY is the unknown. That's where all the catharsis happens.
You mentioned Trent! YES!!!! Nobody mentions the man that was basically the reason why the jaguars got smoked. Also the spy/bondsman that helped Trent was actually his bondsman. She was a Crab pilot and I think they eventually became lovers.
Inaana (Nova Cats) . Her and Trent managed to get close, along with Paul Moon. The 3 of them together helped send what was left of the Jaguar cast to a far away planet so they could find themselves and become a better version of Smoke Jaguar. (Spoiler alert) Trent dies while fighting Clan Goliath Scorpion but in the end, he died with his honor intact and at peace with himself. Paul Moon and Inanna kept their word.
Actually, in my opinion, it was a master stroke of the head of clan Wolf to put the nova cats in a position to fight their bitter enemy and let them go at it, and then while the nova cats and clan smoke jaguar fight each other, one of two scenarios is going to happen. They’re either going to annihilate each other, which helps clan.wolf or when will be destroyed in the other one will be so weak they can just walk right over them wipe them out absorb what’s left in into clan wolf and they win again, it’s a win-win scenario
What’s even more fun is that on Tukayyid Smoke Jaguar didn’t even send there best. Why? Cause most of their best were dead or captured on Luthien when they alongside Clan Nova Cat participated in the largest battle in the inner sphere since the fall of the Star League. If I remember correctly it was 4 Galaxy’s of Smoke Jaguar and 2 Galaxy’s of Nova Cats vs 8 Regiments of Kurita’s most Elite and best equipped units alongside the Kell’s Hounds and Wolf Dragoons (yes Kurita was in such a pickle they asked Hanse for reinforcements and when he sent Mercs they decided that the whole “death to mercenaries” order (the exact one created in 3028/29 because of these exact 2 merc units) didn’t exist and took em in. And smoke Jaguar and Nova Cat lost massively. Yes Kurita and the Mercs took massive casualties too but CSJ and CNC practically lost some of their most Elite and best units in this assault. To the point most of those deployed on Tuk were essentially the last of the “elite” who remained…. So fuck all.
COMSTAR taught them freeborns with enough guns and missiles can teach even the most elite elemental because the Inner Sphere can just keep throwing in more people until the problem went away the Clans didn't have that.
Hah! Bold of you to assume they even had enough going on in their empty heads to know what baddies are, let alone do something as complex as introspection.
The beauty of this is that Smoke Jaguar was written like this on purpose. All the clans function like WWE bad guys and the Smoke Jaguars were the absolute psychos. Then future media like video games and books made them even worst. Definitely pure chaotic evil (chaotic stupid), would recommend, 10/10.
I guess that makes Clan Wolf the Face/Tweener stuck in a faction with the dicks. Complete with sabotaging the whole effort from the inside, tricking their "allies" into a winner-take-all match with the Inners and then just straight up turning on Smoke Jaguar (causing the Refusal feud).
im getting flashbacks of Buttehold in MWO. For 2 weeks we were stuck fighting there because Clan Smoke Jaguar decided that clan wolf was winning too much.
I knew a little about the Jags, and have been playing Clans. By the end of the 1st world I was like, "Oh we're the bad guys here, and that's saying a lot in Mechwarrior."
Me playing the Turtle Bay missions: why is Turtle Bay familiar to me, it was a big battle but there's something missing. After the ending mission: oh yeah it was a Massacre of Turtle Bay
As much as I like playing mechwarrior clans, my brain fuckin seizures at the way that all of them treat each other like they’re all the smartest person in the room
Ah, the first clanners I got to fight, in MechWarrior 3. That they never realize your support vehicles hacked their comms within 5 minutes of landing is both hilarious and highly characteristic.
My friend chose Smoke Jaguar as his clan of choice. Needless to say he had to change clans after they were destroyed. Now he's Jade Turkey! 🦃 I chose the best clan... Nova Cats. 😉 Even have an official Bloodname since 1999. 😸
Hate pretty much = love and attention at this point, I will take it over obscurity. Having to defend my Clan in arguments every two seconds is better than "wait is that a real Clan?"
Have you ever heard of the tragedy of Nicholas Kerensky the fool? I thought not, not a tale the Clans would tell you. Instead of making one unified force that makes tech advances and uses logic to sweep in a wreck the crap show of inter sphere no Kerensky #2 the fool makes a bunch of barbarian tribes.
It still drives me nuts that with all the clans MechWarrior 5 Clans could have chosen, they picked the absolute worst one. Especially with the line in the trailer where they called House Kurita fascists. Kettle calling the pot black doesn't do that line justice; it's like Darth Vader's charred, burnt-to-a-crisp ass calling the pot black.
Having finished MW5C, I think it was an inspired choice to go with the least sympathetic Clan. They are quite clear on how brutal and cruel the Jaguars can be as the invasion unfolds.
Ghost Bear was the clan that did a total relocation, not wolf. Also SJ was still hammering the DC all the way to Luthien, and nearly successfully, if not for Merc's. The thing the DC hated the most.
Steve, brother, your trolling is immaculate. I busted out laughing so hard the MOMENT that bagpipe fanfare lit up. We are not worthy. SC.I I'm sorry but you DO understand that this makes the Highlander Bagpipe Music officially a channel meme now right?
Seeing the very thing they launched a massive war to restore burning down their home has got to be one the most ironic things there is. And one of the funniest IMO
Cool Video, thnx for the Lore bits! PLaying Mechwarrior for 2 Decades, but never really got into Lore except reading about Mechs in Sarna or watching Mech Videos from Big Red!
At Wyatt it wasn't just a simple defeat, the Kuritans tricked the Jaguars into bidding for ownership of the planet in PERPETUITY, this means that once the Jaguars were sent packing they weren't allowed to come back, ever. So Wyatt goes on to become a Combine stronghold within the occupation zone. During the battle itself the combine brought the Ryoken, the elite Wolf's Dragoons trained formation. And the Smoked Jaguar commander survived the battle... only to be brutally murdered by an elemental afterwards when he was refused to be taken as a bondsman to the combine. The Jaguars even wanted to exterminate the guys "kids" in the sibkos but the Kuritan prince talked them out of it. And I can't believe you didn't talk about the battle of Luthien, another absolute kick in the Smoked Jaguar teeth.
SJ was my favorite clan. When I first picked a clan, I simply asked, "which one uses the most Daishis and Masakaris?" So this became my clan. This was of course BEFORE I read how they are written as "cobra commander" bad guys. The writing in Battletech is pretty simplistic.
Yeah but the Nova Cats took him on as a bondsman, freed him into their warrior caste and he got to lead a star against the Ice hellions in the great refusal
Only thing you missed was them coming back into being as lapcats of clan Wolf on the IlClan era. So in a way it got even worse for them, by being the new protectors of the previously hated enemy.
Love your videos that I've seen so far. Watched this one then discovered you also do BSG content. Script, discussions, jokes, all quality. You guys are hilarious. Thank you ^^
"Like Clan Wolf brought their entire logistics and supply system from Homeworlds" Common! Where's the Bear mention?! They were by far the best among clanners when it came to actually caring about the conquered.
To be fair, Judith Faber, the comstar agent helping Trent was his own bondsman. Or Lady. He took her on Tukayyid. He not only survived the planet, he made a comstar mechwarrior his slave. And everyone in Clan Smokejaguar hated this.
And now, the Smoke Jaguars are back! A few SJ survivors made it into the Republic of the Sphere’s special forces and Alaric Ward agreed to reform the clan after he became the IlKahn.
By some reports that was Blaine Lee Pardoe insisting on their resurrection to the extent of including it in "Hour of the Wolf" against repeated directives against him, until it was too late because the book had to go to press.
You should give Heavy Gear a look! There aren't any novels, but the sourcebooks are awesome and full of good stories and fluff, and the PC games are... Well, Heavy Gear 2 is freaking awesome, and got me hooked on the hobby and genre, and HG1 is an interesting game with a LOT of Mechwarrior 2 DNA in it!
fitting you would be covering this clan considering it's the clan you will play as in the upcoming mechwarrior 5 clans game, least from what ive seen here on youtube.
The story of trent was probably the most if not one of the most badass mofos in all of battletech. He was literally an island of reason in a sea of dicks. Dude deserved getting the girl at the end of his story. Bro was a hero.
XD Well, at least they make fun antagonists in the video games. It's almost hilarious that we're going to have to play as them in the future game title.
For the record, no less than four of the Jaguars' best clusters were destroyed at Tukayyid. 225th Battle, 214th Dragoon, 122nd Striker, and the Jaguar Grenadiers. Near total loss of officer corps (75%+ losses), near total loss of materiel (75%+ losses). Their most elite forces, utterly broken. This is the equivalent of opening a newspaper and reading "101st Airborne wiped out after week-long battle." That is how badly the Jags screwed up on Tukayyid.
It really feels ultimate expression of "karma's a bitch". It's like fate kept a running tally of all the shit they had done, and then just said "Time to pay up."
Is no one else gonna point out how Outbound Light is a direct reference to Star Wars’s Outbound Flight which was a Jedi project to explore the unknown regions and attempt to leave the galaxy?
Considering how badly the Smoked Jaguars screwed up I'm surprised they lasted as long as they did. This whole video is like a bullet point on what you _shouldn't_ do if you want to rule, even with an iron fist. They consistently shot themselves in the foot; half the time for no reason. Smoothed-brained indeed.
After going through MW5 Clans, it really felt like Jayden(the player character) and maybe his team and the Colonel were the only ones in that group that knew what they were doing. Rest of the clan felt like they were just pissed all the time and it got them in trouble.
Putting the Smoke Jaguar's rival Nova Cat on the invasion slot was practically designed to cause the invasion to fail in such a way it would be a stutter...
The Smoke Jags was a capable Clan despite what was said in the video. They were perhaps one of the most well-trained clans, do to passing only a relative few through their warrior training program and they were very adaptive. Which was a failing of many of the clans, most Clans did not adapt quickly or well. Which was one of the reasons why the inner sphere chose them as the clan to attack.
thought it was more because of Smoke Jag being the one clan to use warships to bomb a city into oblivion that made them the chosen target. Also, them being abaptive feels kinda wrong, arent they as stuck-up as the falcons if not more?
@@comickazii6629 except the capellans are smart, they would make deal and alliances with anyone, like 1. Making an alliance with marik and DC to combat fedcom. 2. Forming another alliance with Canopus and taurians to retake all its territory it lost to fedcom 3. Forming the second star league to kick clan ass 4. Joing the coalition against blake 5. Another alliance with DC to put capture territory lost due to formation of the republic of sphere. Plus they are most innovative of all IS houses 1. EW tech 2. Stealth armor 3. Plasma weapons (even smooth brained clanners are shocked by this) 4. Battlearmor with magnet clamps for infantry to ride on vehicles (this was before clan omnimechs) 5. Tag with of map SRM
Tex's second favorite clanner punching bag.
smoked jaguar indeed
And for good reason 👍
what's the first? Jade Falcon isn't punched that much, they mainly remained professional unlike the jaguars
IDK man, Tex loves mocking the smog cats.
@@moistjohn The green birds have their recent fuckery as well as our favorite clanner, Nikolai Malthus.
Clan Wolverine is best clan because they called out all the bs in clanner society at the begining and almost won.
And they live on in the Minnesota Tribe, even if that has been kinda coopted by the Word of Blake
Did they almost won?
I hope this I hope in the current timeline I hope they help plan the counter-attack and take down Clan Wolf.
@@AttaxalotlMinnesota Tribe
@@Dracobyte They still exist, even after being annihilated, and there is a dark age faction called the clave that are hinted at being Wolverine descendants. I'd say just surviving is a win.
Mechwarrior 5 clans about to come out.
Everyone - So let me tell you about Smoked Jaguar. They used to have a clan!
Food for thought.
The player always single handedly wins every battle ever...... and they are starting off as Smoked Jag......
Every NPC gangsta until the Player shows up on the other team.
Smoke "Still, could be worse" Jaguar
Laughs in 3152
@@wrayday7149Anastasius Focht: "You look lonely..."
Fantastic poddy, boys. Great to get the plot of MW:Clans spoilt on the eve of its release;)
Clan Mongoose are a great parallel to Smoke Jaguar.
Mongoose got rofl-stomped by the Jaguars, and the other Clans just watched because of how much Mongoose were hated for being dicks. Then, when the spheroids came for Smoke Jaguar, no one helped because the Jags were massive dicks. It's actually quite funny.
There's always a bigger dick.
And it's even funnier when you remember the details of the Londerholm revolt. Other Clans made noise about the Jaguars massacring their civilians at the time, but Khan Ian Moon insisted that the issue was an internal Smoke Jaguar matter and other Clans had no business meddling in Jaguar affairs. Well, when Task Force Serpent landed on Huntress and Lincoln Osis was begging other Clans for help, the other Clans used the same logic to justify leaving the Jaguars to fend for themselves. The irony was through the roof.
@@mam162 More funnier.
They seek help from those Warden Clan and Home Clan with don't want to help them.
While the supposed guardian of Clanners likes both Wolf and Jade Falcon were put on life support.
So no one help them in time of need because the Clanners were so stupid.
And those clans who thought the old Clan way was too smooth stupid brain went to Inner Sphere with have brighter future than living with them.
**Clan Wolverine warning came back to bite all of them in the ass**
Ah, the Smoked Jaguars, the Capellians of the Clans
Been saying it for years
Please, have some mercy on Capellans. They aren't this incompetent.
@@graveyard1979 Yeah, Capellans might be sneaky, underhanded, backstabbing, communists! But they are EFFECTIVE, sneaky, underhanded, backstabbing, communists.
Hate or love them, the Capellans got from near ruin to powerhouse. Jaguars did the reverse.
Davion tears = best tears.
Xin Sheng!
In contrast to Smoke Jaguar, I recommend covering Ghost Bear. One big happy, violent family.
oh yeah, good choice. and we can't leave out their notorious kodiak mech.
I like this idea. Kodiak is a heavy version of a walking Napoleon Complex, and I love it.
Yah, sure, you betcha. We are here to take over but brought a casserole
Well, until Iclan era.
The Wolf somehow managed to brainwash the Bear leadership so they launched a civil war in the Dominion ... Then wounded Bears decided that external threat is good for deflecting the questions about what the F*** just happened (a third of Dominion armed forces just gone...) by provoking the now mighty Dragons
Imagine thinking you're slick, choosing a batchall of the Football from the Americas, It's so obscure no one would know how to play it. Ghost Bear show up with gene engineered super players that just so happen to moonlight as Elementals
Smoke Jaguar: "What did I do to deserve this!?"
Wolf: "..."
Diamond Shark: "..."
Ghost Bear: "..."
Comstar: "..."
Fedcom: "..."
Draconis: "..."
Smoke Jaguar: "I mean what SPECIFICALLY!?"
Draconis: 🗡🗡🗡🗡🗡🗡
Snow Raven: "Iunno, you tell me."
Smoke Jaguar - "Oh shut up Draconis, you've done way more war crimes!"
*spoken like they should be proud to be compared as such*
Even though their game is coming out soon and somebody may click on this and go, "OMG- spoilers!", keep in mind that Smoked Kitty losing has been known to the fandom for decades. I recommend going into the game with a Halo Reach mentality- your faction is gonna lose, but what will happen to you and your star?
Current Objective: Survive
Makes me think that we may go awol after turtle bay, a lot of cut scenes with Wolf's Dragoons. May point to us being with them on Luthien
Hate that kind of games. You win and win again than game just says: and then you lost. Mokery of player agency, but can work with proper cinematic experience.
@Whanevs Reach was about degrees of loss and was excellent. It perfectly captured that Spartans win all the battles but the war against the covenant was unwinnable.
@@Grazui
It perfectly encapsulates what John thought in _The_ _Fall_ _of_ _Reach_: On the ground, they always won. However, winning on the ground is meaningless if your fleet can't maintain at least orbital superiority, if not orbital dominance. Which itself illustrates why planetary invasions are dumb.
@@Whanevs
You must HATE knowing where you're going for vacation. I mean, what's the point in the journey, if the destination is predetermined, right? With games like Reach, the JOURNEY is the unknown. That's where all the catharsis happens.
sun tzu: Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak
SJ: Got it
´´Moments later´´
sun tzu: NOT LIKE THAT YOU IDIOTS
Sun-Tzu Liao: You're immature.
You mentioned Trent! YES!!!! Nobody mentions the man that was basically the reason why the jaguars got smoked. Also the spy/bondsman that helped Trent was actually his bondsman. She was a Crab pilot and I think they eventually became lovers.
Inaana (Nova Cats) . Her and Trent managed to get close, along with Paul Moon. The 3 of them together helped send what was left of the Jaguar cast to a far away planet so they could find themselves and become a better version of Smoke Jaguar. (Spoiler alert) Trent dies while fighting Clan Goliath Scorpion but in the end, he died with his honor intact and at peace with himself. Paul Moon and Inanna kept their word.
It should be noted that Trent was also the first clanner to come to Terra. It was his ashes, but the point remains
Smoke Jaguar = Ilclan
Actually, in my opinion, it was a master stroke of the head of clan Wolf to put the nova cats in a position to fight their bitter enemy and let them go at it, and then while the nova cats and clan smoke jaguar fight each other, one of two scenarios is going to happen. They’re either going to annihilate each other, which helps clan.wolf or when will be destroyed in the other one will be so weak they can just walk right over them wipe them out absorb what’s left in into clan wolf and they win again, it’s a win-win scenario
>Steve is back
>Battletech coverage is back
>Clans are back
HOLY FUG I THINK WE'RE SO BACK BOISSSSS
I always liked Clan Smoke Jaguar. They made for great arrogant bad guys for both Clan and IS games.
That's what a well-done heel looks like
Steve is the hero we need and deserve! We need to get him his own custom Highlander.
**plays bagpipes**
What’s even more fun is that on Tukayyid Smoke Jaguar didn’t even send there best. Why? Cause most of their best were dead or captured on Luthien when they alongside Clan Nova Cat participated in the largest battle in the inner sphere since the fall of the Star League.
If I remember correctly it was 4 Galaxy’s of Smoke Jaguar and 2 Galaxy’s of Nova Cats vs 8 Regiments of Kurita’s most Elite and best equipped units alongside the Kell’s Hounds and Wolf Dragoons (yes Kurita was in such a pickle they asked Hanse for reinforcements and when he sent Mercs they decided that the whole “death to mercenaries” order (the exact one created in 3028/29 because of these exact 2 merc units) didn’t exist and took em in.
And smoke Jaguar and Nova Cat lost massively. Yes Kurita and the Mercs took massive casualties too but CSJ and CNC practically lost some of their most Elite and best units in this assault. To the point most of those deployed on Tuk were essentially the last of the “elite” who remained…. So fuck all.
COMSTAR taught them freeborns with enough guns and missiles can teach even the most elite elemental because the Inner Sphere can just keep throwing in more people until the problem went away the Clans didn't have that.
Two Jag Mech Warriors standing in the ruins of Huntress, "Are we the baddies ?"
No its cleary evrybody else thats at foult.
Caked up Catapult bussin' it down quirky style fr fr ong (Which is to say yes, they are indeed baddies, 👀)
Hah! Bold of you to assume they even had enough going on in their empty heads to know what baddies are, let alone do something as complex as introspection.
The beauty of this is that Smoke Jaguar was written like this on purpose. All the clans function like WWE bad guys and the Smoke Jaguars were the absolute psychos. Then future media like video games and books made them even worst. Definitely pure chaotic evil (chaotic stupid), would recommend, 10/10.
I guess that makes Clan Wolf the Face/Tweener stuck in a faction with the dicks. Complete with sabotaging the whole effort from the inside, tricking their "allies" into a winner-take-all match with the Inners and then just straight up turning on Smoke Jaguar (causing the Refusal feud).
Having just played through MechWarrior 5 Clans I can indeed confirm that Clan Smoke Jaguar has a terminal case of the Chaotic Stupid lol
"I put the fires out."
"YOU MADE THEM WORSE!"
"Worse? Or Better?"
Love a good Zim reference
Yes, my Tallest!
Back in the day the Smoke Jaguars had the best random unit 2D6 roll charts. Dashi, Ryoken, Dragonfly.
YESSSS! Love them bagpipes. Still owe 1 from a previous episode
If only it had been Scotland the Brave.
Highlander! (listens)
Mechwarrior 5: Clans: "These are Smoke Jaguar, aren't they great?"
You fool, I played Mechwarrior 3. I know what fools you bring.
The clan that started the war, lost two khans, 3 battles, home world, and their honor. Get bent clanners, walcot forever
They got Focht!
Walcot was my Mercs home. Well, we weren't really Mercs anymore by that point... we just raided Clan worlds for tech and sold it for financing.
And now they serve under one their hated rivals Clan Wolf. Funny isn't it.
They got focht over
Came here for the lore, stayed for the bagpipes.
Highlander! *listens*
If it's funny once, it's funny every time!
@@BigSwede7403 simple pleasures for simple minds, and they don't get much simpler than mine!
"hey smoke jaguar. Remember when you had a clan?"
-Professor Tex of the BPL
Hey, Kurita, remember when you had half your country?
Smoke Jaguars... I'm getting flashbacks of Port Arthur.
im getting flashbacks of Buttehold in MWO. For 2 weeks we were stuck fighting there because Clan Smoke Jaguar decided that clan wolf was winning too much.
From MechCommander 1!
I knew a little about the Jags, and have been playing Clans. By the end of the 1st world I was like, "Oh we're the bad guys here, and that's saying a lot in Mechwarrior."
Me playing the Turtle Bay missions: why is Turtle Bay familiar to me, it was a big battle but there's something missing.
After the ending mission: oh yeah it was a Massacre of Turtle Bay
As much as I like playing mechwarrior clans, my brain fuckin seizures at the way that all of them treat each other like they’re all the smartest person in the room
More dunking on the Clans?! I’m here for it.
Glory to COMSTAR.
@@mikecampos1193 Truly the best boys of the setting.
@@pheonixshamantoo bad they are dead and clan sea fox took their place
Ah, the first clanners I got to fight, in MechWarrior 3. That they never realize your support vehicles hacked their comms within 5 minutes of landing is both hilarious and highly characteristic.
My friend chose Smoke Jaguar as his clan of choice. Needless to say he had to change clans after they were destroyed. Now he's Jade Turkey! 🦃 I chose the best clan... Nova Cats. 😉 Even have an official Bloodname since 1999. 😸
If he changed his clan he wasn't really a smoke jaguar. I've been told I'm dead for 25ish years... now I laugh in ilClan
@@AmarusCameron 😆
I'm fond of the Star Adders. Were Crusaders but bid too high. Now they are technically Wardens and the most powerful clan in clan space.
Even the Nova Cats were decimated big time during the Dark Age era. Now what?
@@crimcrusader8459 as I said somewhere else I don't really pay attention to BattleTech anymore. Anything past the Jihad doesn't really exist to me. 😉
The amount of love and attention the Smoke Jaguars are getting from everyone is just wonderful, brings tears into my eyes.
Hate pretty much = love and attention at this point, I will take it over obscurity. Having to defend my Clan in arguments every two seconds is better than "wait is that a real Clan?"
Have you ever heard of the tragedy of Nicholas Kerensky the fool? I thought not, not a tale the Clans would tell you.
Instead of making one unified force that makes tech advances and uses logic to sweep in a wreck the crap show of inter sphere no Kerensky #2 the fool makes a bunch of barbarian tribes.
You forgot the part where these tribes would cosplay as the mongols and mistoke genghis khan's atrocities as gestures of kindness
Also, eugenics. Because that thing that’s been proven to not work will totally work now. Trust me bro.
I love the timing of this video beating up smoke jaguar just as mechwarior 5: clans is about to come out where you pay as smoke jaguar.
Now I see why one of my players love this faction...he loves to play "mustache " villains.
28:38 highlander mention
Bagpipe activated
Routing bagpipes to external speakers, enjoy the battlemusic!
Imagine being so psychotic that you make your people adopt the Ares Convention a second time
You forget to mention the Draconis Combine smoked clan Smoke Jaguar at the siege of Luthien.
Wasn't that mission on MechWarrior 2.
@@mikecampos1193 No idea never played mechwarrior 2.
@mikecampos1193 along with this dlc expansion
It still drives me nuts that with all the clans MechWarrior 5 Clans could have chosen, they picked the absolute worst one. Especially with the line in the trailer where they called House Kurita fascists. Kettle calling the pot black doesn't do that line justice; it's like Darth Vader's charred, burnt-to-a-crisp ass calling the pot black.
Considering later trailers show the Burning of Ito/Turtle Bay, it seems they're not whitewashing the Jaguars.
even in the future the word fascist has lost all meaning
Having finished MW5C, I think it was an inspired choice to go with the least sympathetic Clan. They are quite clear on how brutal and cruel the Jaguars can be as the invasion unfolds.
Inner Sphere: We're here to remove Smoke Jaguar from reality.
Smoke Jaguar: Ahhh, guys... Lil help?
Other Clans: Why? Saves us the trouble.
Ah. Smoke jaguar. The people who think that wiping out every single non combatant for funsies is a viable way of running a civilization
You'd be shocked how much that's popped up in history
Ahh Smoke Jaguar, Warriors who were so afraid of civilians they had to run away to orbit and nuke them.
@@Reoh0z that too
Love that you brought up Trent and his bondsman. Read that book in high-school and love it. Great video as always
Agreed the Chimney Kittens are the worst smooth-brained pod people!
Nah, Clan Soy Viper exists. The Jaguars are just assholes, better to be an asshole than an insufferable know-nothing hypocrite.
Till they get Focht!
Remember edo, banzai
~1st heavy jiniosha thug pilot, battle of walcot
Love the Doomguy reference as in being angry. MW5:Clans will be "fun"...
I'm getting nostalgic to go flip through my Clan Invasion sourcebooks. 😆
More like smoked jaguar, hey remember when you guys HAD a clan *laughs like an inner sphere maniac*
*Laughs in Turtle Bay
Ghost Bear was the clan that did a total relocation, not wolf. Also SJ was still hammering the DC all the way to Luthien, and nearly successfully, if not for Merc's. The thing the DC hated the most.
Smoked jags: i would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you pesky mercs
_Remember Tukayyid_
Remember Damocles
It’s gets worse for SCI when Steven pulls out the bag pipes XD
Steve, brother, your trolling is immaculate. I busted out laughing so hard the MOMENT that bagpipe fanfare lit up. We are not worthy.
SC.I I'm sorry but you DO understand that this makes the Highlander Bagpipe Music officially a channel meme now right?
Seeing the very thing they launched a massive war to restore burning down their home has got to be one the most ironic things there is.
And one of the funniest IMO
Technically they burned worlds that they conquered it was only fair they got a taste of their own medicine.
Cool Video, thnx for the Lore bits! PLaying Mechwarrior for 2 Decades, but never really got into Lore except reading about Mechs in Sarna or watching Mech Videos from Big Red!
I actually like(d) the smoke jag, they didn't even hide the fact that they were complete dirt bags.
The return of the Highlander bagpipes, clearly the best part
At Wyatt it wasn't just a simple defeat, the Kuritans tricked the Jaguars into bidding for ownership of the planet in PERPETUITY, this means that once the Jaguars were sent packing they weren't allowed to come back, ever. So Wyatt goes on to become a Combine stronghold within the occupation zone. During the battle itself the combine brought the Ryoken, the elite Wolf's Dragoons trained formation.
And the Smoked Jaguar commander survived the battle... only to be brutally murdered by an elemental afterwards when he was refused to be taken as a bondsman to the combine. The Jaguars even wanted to exterminate the guys "kids" in the sibkos but the Kuritan prince talked them out of it.
And I can't believe you didn't talk about the battle of Luthien, another absolute kick in the Smoked Jaguar teeth.
SJ was my favorite clan. When I first picked a clan, I simply asked, "which one uses the most Daishis and Masakaris?" So this became my clan. This was of course BEFORE I read how they are written as "cobra commander" bad guys. The writing in Battletech is pretty simplistic.
Clan Smoke Jaguar was my chosen favourite also because big cat cool name.
God damn you. " i googled" triggered the ever listening alphabet and activated while i was driving..
IIRC Trent got to bone the Com Star Chick, but got screwed by the Inner Sphere and wasnt allowed to lead the invasion.
Yeah but the Nova Cats took him on as a bondsman, freed him into their warrior caste and he got to lead a star against the Ice hellions in the great refusal
Smoked Jaguars motto should definitely be: It Gets Worse. 😂
this was an interesting look into the Clans, but i am a little more interested in a uniquely Clan led project...the ProtoMech...
Clan Salted Pork; the Knights of the Inner Sphere's punching bag, the lackeys of Blake.
Only thing you missed was them coming back into being as lapcats of clan Wolf on the IlClan era. So in a way it got even worse for them, by being the new protectors of the previously hated enemy.
You missed out Operation Dragonslayer, when they tried to attack the Kurita capital of Luthien.
More like operation smoked cats 😸
The Smoked Jaguars, the biggest tryhard sweats of the clans. Next to Jade Falcon. Well, at least the birds didnt get wiped out
@@seb2750 the wolves and the falcons had too much 'main character' armor to get wiped out.
The ad read was on point. I laughed so hard.
Up vote for Batchal!
Pay your bills Fucko Clanners COMSTAR!
Love your videos that I've seen so far. Watched this one then discovered you also do BSG content. Script, discussions, jokes, all quality. You guys are hilarious. Thank you ^^
"Like Clan Wolf brought their entire logistics and supply system from Homeworlds"
Common! Where's the Bear mention?! They were by far the best among clanners when it came to actually caring about the conquered.
To be fair, Judith Faber, the comstar agent helping Trent was his own bondsman. Or Lady. He took her on Tukayyid. He not only survived the planet, he made a comstar mechwarrior his slave. And everyone in Clan Smokejaguar hated this.
i would be up for hearing about Trent, it's a good story!
This is your best video yet!
And now, the Smoke Jaguars are back! A few SJ survivors made it into the Republic of the Sphere’s special forces and Alaric Ward agreed to reform the clan after he became the IlKahn.
So they're about to have their own Cobra Kai arc? I'm here for it
By some reports that was Blaine Lee Pardoe insisting on their resurrection to the extent of including it in "Hour of the Wolf" against repeated directives against him, until it was too late because the book had to go to press.
Congrats on getting sponsored!
You should give Heavy Gear a look! There aren't any novels, but the sourcebooks are awesome and full of good stories and fluff, and the PC games are... Well, Heavy Gear 2 is freaking awesome, and got me hooked on the hobby and genre, and HG1 is an interesting game with a LOT of Mechwarrior 2 DNA in it!
Smoke Jaguars may be the worst Clan, yes.
But Clan Wolf's plot armor will always make them the most hateable clan.
fitting you would be covering this clan considering it's the clan you will play as in the upcoming mechwarrior 5 clans game, least from what ive seen here on youtube.
The story of trent was probably the most if not one of the most badass mofos in all of battletech. He was literally an island of reason in a sea of dicks. Dude deserved getting the girl at the end of his story. Bro was a hero.
Ah, the Cough Kittens. The best punching bags the Clans have given the lore!
XD Well, at least they make fun antagonists in the video games. It's almost hilarious that we're going to have to play as them in the future game title.
I'm still annoyed that CGL chose to bring the SJ's faction back in the IlClan era. One more stupid decision from those clowns.
Dont worry they are leashed pets of the wolf
28:45 I forgot about the bagpipe bit that was great.
I believe in Clan Wolf superiority.
You meant Wolverine I assume.
No one likes clan Mary Sue.
I love all the hate wolf gets from the inferior clans. Their impotent rage fuels me. "ALL HAIL THE ILCLAN!"
@@RvnKnight Clan Calverine.
Clan Ghost Bear is superior Clan.
For the record, no less than four of the Jaguars' best clusters were destroyed at Tukayyid. 225th Battle, 214th Dragoon, 122nd Striker, and the Jaguar Grenadiers. Near total loss of officer corps (75%+ losses), near total loss of materiel (75%+ losses). Their most elite forces, utterly broken.
This is the equivalent of opening a newspaper and reading "101st Airborne wiped out after week-long battle." That is how badly the Jags screwed up on Tukayyid.
Smoke Jaguar braincells. "But wait! There's less!"
It really feels ultimate expression of "karma's a bitch". It's like fate kept a running tally of all the shit they had done, and then just said "Time to pay up."
Free like for the Highlanders (bagpipe music)
I love that the legend of the Highlander lives on
Smoke Jaguar. The Clan so aggressive that even the Jade Falcons went "Dude, calm down."
My repeated reaction throughout the video: "But... HOW?" (in response to "it got worse" obviously)
Is no one else gonna point out how Outbound Light is a direct reference to Star Wars’s Outbound Flight which was a Jedi project to explore the unknown regions and attempt to leave the galaxy?
Heh, the extinction of Smoke Jaguar was complete at the Great Refusal when the Ilkhan was poetically beheaded with a katana.
Considering how badly the Smoked Jaguars screwed up I'm surprised they lasted as long as they did. This whole video is like a bullet point on what you _shouldn't_ do if you want to rule, even with an iron fist. They consistently shot themselves in the foot; half the time for no reason. Smoothed-brained indeed.
After going through MW5 Clans, it really felt like Jayden(the player character) and maybe his team and the Colonel were the only ones in that group that knew what they were doing. Rest of the clan felt like they were just pissed all the time and it got them in trouble.
Smoke Jaguars: Where Others Bound, We Blunder!
In the end the clans scarified the Jaguars only to have them brought back as a puppet of Clan Wolf during the ill Clan era. 😂
All 7 of them
@@MrKazyFreakclan smoked jag-cubs
Counter point: their color scheme is dope
Another awesome video man thanks
Putting the Smoke Jaguar's rival Nova Cat on the invasion slot was practically designed to cause the invasion to fail in such a way it would be a stutter...
I don't play the game or tabletop but your video is healing 💆♂️
The Smoke Jags was a capable Clan despite what was said in the video. They were perhaps one of the most well-trained clans, do to passing only a relative few through their warrior training program and they were very adaptive.
Which was a failing of many of the clans, most Clans did not adapt quickly or well.
Which was one of the reasons why the inner sphere chose them as the clan to attack.
Until they met COMSTAR and they were taught back off the Inner Sphere.
Yeah. Like the Capellans. And no one cares if they disappear. Like the Capellans.
thought it was more because of Smoke Jag being the one clan to use warships to bomb a city into oblivion that made them the chosen target. Also, them being abaptive feels kinda wrong, arent they as stuck-up as the falcons if not more?
@@comickazii6629 except the capellans are smart, they would make deal and alliances with anyone, like
1. Making an alliance with marik and DC to combat fedcom.
2. Forming another alliance with Canopus and taurians to retake all its territory it lost to fedcom
3. Forming the second star league to kick clan ass
4. Joing the coalition against blake
5. Another alliance with DC to put capture territory lost due to formation of the republic of sphere.
Plus they are most innovative of all IS houses
1. EW tech
2. Stealth armor
3. Plasma weapons (even smooth brained clanners are shocked by this)
4. Battlearmor with magnet clamps for infantry to ride on vehicles (this was before clan omnimechs)
5. Tag with of map SRM
"They were the best because of their stupid decisions that undercut literally any and every strength they had"