Travis where have you gone bro...... come back to us. i guess i speak to ever here. hope your well. and hope your back soon. hopefully your on like Ansel Adams Adventure. and will return with a tone of film and photo to show us all.
For the noobs out there, the Rodinal and Fixer he mentioned are for black and white film only. The guy behind the counter and the camera shop screwed me over by assuming I wanted to develop B&W when I first started. If you shoot color just get a C41 powder kit off eBay for $30. It'll last you about 18 rolls. Very informative video I wish more people knew how easy it is! Thanks Travis
I went the extreme cheap way for most of my stuff! I bought my 1000ml mug from a dollar store, $20 for the changing bag ( ebay), no need for bottle opener because I don't wind my film all the way once spent, spent juice jugs (3L) ha! Finally some good old Rodinal which lasts forever!
It is so true that real photographers develop their own film, it is also true that film is way more fun and rewarding than electrons, Keep the videos coming
I develop C41 and E6 in my sink. If you want to be extremely cheap you can skip the dark bag, I don't recommend it but I developed my first few rolls by loading the film in simply a dark closet. It worked well enough but it's extremely stressful compared to a dark bag. For colour film you can skip the graduate, you only need to be precise during initial mixing since you reuse chemicals for multiple development. I got everything I needed from a Kaiser starter kit which was somewhere around 80 euro. C41 kits are somewhere around 25 euro for 1 liter kits. E6 is currently smallest in 2.5L kits for 60 euro. Tetenal has said they are releasing 1 1L kit soonish so it should be nice and cheap after that.
Jan Jansen hello my friend I know that you do not know me or I do not know you but I would like to know if you can help me with a question, I am starting to develop film c41 process at home, I would like to ask you I will use my slr camera for scan my film which part is the one that I should put towards the lens, the part of the emulation or the brightest where there is no emulation, hopefully you understand me and hopefully you can help me, apologies for my English, thank you.
Thanks! I just bought a Pentax SPII today, looking forward to giving this hobby a try. Hopefully, if I enjoy it, I’ll buy all this equipment to save money over time, thanks to you!
Your videos are great! You share amazing photographs! Please make more videos because you do amazing work that is so pleasant to watch. Thank you for sharing.
hi travis, i've been developing my own film and making prints in my darkroom all my life, and i love it. i really like your videos, i hope you make more. .
I haven't done that since high school (20 years), but will definitely have a DIY setup eventually. I just got back into film photography after spending $30 on a camera bag containing a late 90's overseas SLR with an owners manual 2 lenses, a remote flash, and a few rolls of fim at a junk shop last month.
And then consider used stuff or buy on fleamarkets, use aquarium thermometers, or buy in hairdresser’s supply ... and for me I‘m actually using a lot Caffenol M - easy, cheap from local drugstore.
Rodnial is great! I have my bottle now About 1 1/2 Year and it is still not empty and it still develop good, so it is very reliabel and it is cheap. For example for 1 film with Dilution 1+50 you need about 7 or 8 ml, that is not much (you can get about 62 developments out of a 500ml bottle). Greetings from Germany
Let's add a dose of reality here. The only positive attribute of Rodinal is its very long life in storage. As a film developer for quality results, it is as poor a developer as you can find on the market today. It is the undisputed king of golf ball grain. Depending on how you use it, it can give an appearance of higher than average sharpness, but not the way most people use it these days. People recommend it for "stand" development, mainly because it's physically easy to mix in huge dilutions, but those folks are the fanboys who fail to mention the uneven densities and bromide streaking you will get. Let's put Rodinal down once and for all time. Try something easy to find and really cheap to buy, and which gives good results, like D-76, used 1:2.(Do as I say, not as I do, since I haven't used D-76 for 50 years.)
Thanks Travis for the very informative video. I've been giving some thought to developing my own film (at least black & white) as availability and cost of commercial film processing seems to be getting more and more of an issue as time goes on. For example: I dropped off a roll of exposed 35 mm color film to our local pharmacy that purports to get film processing done (a major national chain who shall remain nameless) going on a month ago..and I'm still waiting! So..if I get these materials and do my own developing of monochrome film..can I then get a film scanner, hook to my computer, and print off my own prints on appropriate printer paper? I have considerable investment in film photography cameras and do not want to give up on film photography yet..and I love film photography. Besides, I like monochrome/black & white in particular (I like that you record many of your videos in black & white). Thanks really enjoy your videos..among my 'go to' videos on TH-cam for anything to do with photography. Keep well.
Is there any way to "print" a negative onto a sensor so that you can dodge and burn and stuff but directly onto a sensor in a darkroom. That would be cool.
Great video! How do you dispose your fixer when it’s time for a fresh supply? Do you transfer the liquid to another container or do you dispose of the gallon container and purchase a new one? Wondering if you could do a video or blog post in the future about issues one can encounter when developing such as how to test old chemicals, film curling, water streaks, over developing/under developing, tap water vs distilled water for mixing chemicals and rinsing, basically a “if this happens to the developed film, it’s because of this” troubleshooting type video. There are a lot of how to videos on TH-cam but haven’t really seen any troubleshooting stuff. Any ways, thanks for all you do!
Juan Garcia hmm that’s a good idea. Honestly there aren’t many problems to encounter but I suppose I can think of five?! Might have to do that in the future. For disposing the fixer. I pour mine on the poison oak in my yard 😂 But you can pour it into clumping cat litter. Let that harden and throw it away. Easy!
Basically, you are right. The dissolved silver compounds in used fixer are probably the worst offender at the water treatment plant, but the days when every 4th family in town was hobby-processing film and paper are long gone. With that ratio down to maybe one in ten thousand, down the drain disposal is a non-impact practice, notwithstanding the regular YT videos complaining to the contrary.
Whats up my man? you are one of the most down to earth and unpretentious film channels out there, I got turned on to your channel when I was researching Rolleiflex. Ive since gotten a flex, a cord and an M645. I wanted to share a review on my channel I just completed of a very bidget BW film called ultrafine xtreme, if you havent heard of it feel free to check it out on my channel and let me know what you think, if you have tried it plz still let me know your experience. respect
What's up bro? I've been following your channel for a while and one thing I like about it is you're one of the most non pretentious film channels out there. I have something you might get a kick out of. I just did a review on my channel of lomography color negative 100 in medium format and it turns out to be one of the most inexpensive medium format color films available. You're more than welcome to check it out. I still have yes to give large format a try after I've seen a couple of your tutorials.
I started leaving messages around December. I wanted to get some film developed. No response. Something must have happened. He is one of my favourites.
I love developing my own negs. I find it almost theraputic. Like cooking. Not only that but you can also experiment with different chemicals, too. I take it you dont use stop bath?
hey travis, you didn't mention stop bath, unless I missed it. I assume it's a nominal cost. Also, how do you dispose of spent chemiicals? Are they safe to dump down regular sink drain? Appreciate the info.
Unless you generate many (10-100 gallons) of spent chemicals, your local water works won't object to you pouring it down the drain as you go. Certain color developing chemicals may need special attention, but most black-and-white film processing chemicals are no worse than washing/cooking "grey water." Check with your local water works just to make sure if you have environmental concerns.
If you mix your developer from concentrate and use it one shot you don't even need to buy a jug. Use a gallon of distilled water for your development and final rinse. You can use distilled water at $1.25 a gallon and you get a free jug which you can refill with tap water for stop bath and fixer. Be wary of buying a $16 film cassette opener which is nothing but a bottle opener. Liquor stores used to give these away for free as promotional items. Same with film clips as was mentioned. Use clothes pins or the metal clips at office supply stores or Walmart. Did I mention that I am cheap?
It can be: some times it goes in smooth, other times things can get all screwy. Especially when you’re in too long and start to sweat. It’s important to not panic, and not get frustrated.
Practice, practice, practice, trust me it does get easy after a while, are you triming the corners with a slight angle so that the film starts on the reel without getting hung up?
Great video Travis...thanks for posting! I think this will push me over the edge and begin developing. How would you recommend doing the final rinse when the tap water is over 100 F in the summer (yeh Phoenix)?
Steve Kleinheider I would recommend having a tray of ice cubes on hand to bring that temp down where you need it. I often use them in the summer time as well.
I'd use refrigerated, jugged water as Forest suggests. To minimize the amount required, dilute the wash water for a temperature around 75 degrees. Use the Ilford wash method by agitate and dump, outlined on their website. Use a true "hypo clear" product which chemically alters the fixer, making it much easier to wash out; it can reduce normal wash process time by as much as 75%. (Sprint markets such as Archive Fixer Remover, costing about a dollar a gallon of working solution). Use a final rinse of a photo-flo type wetting agent mixed with distilled water and hang to dry, (No squeegee.)
Yea man I can't even tell you how many people tell me they would shoot and develop film if they had a darkroom. Btw if you're ever in the East Bay hit me up I wanna buy you a beer!
Nice video, i would love to develop my own film , but i can stand buying a 150$ or more scanners and pasing the tedious and long process of scanning and editing :(
Brian Segarra the Epson v550 is super easy to use and the auto color correction feature is accurate 90% of the time! The files are expired as RAW Tiff images so you can use PS or LR like an image from a DSLR and do you regular edits or tweaks. I seriously recommend it
Just don't mention the $3,900 Jobo CPP-3 film and print processor, or the $1,700 Beseler 67XLD enlarger, or the fact that you use the cheapest black and white chemicals you can find, or the fact that those chemicals are one-time-use consumables and have recurring costs.
Travis where have you gone bro......
come back to us. i guess i speak to ever here.
hope your well. and hope your back soon. hopefully your on like Ansel Adams Adventure. and will return with a tone of film and photo to show us all.
For the noobs out there, the Rodinal and Fixer he mentioned are for black and white film only. The guy behind the counter and the camera shop screwed me over by assuming I wanted to develop B&W when I first started. If you shoot color just get a C41 powder kit off eBay for $30. It'll last you about 18 rolls. Very informative video I wish more people knew how easy it is! Thanks Travis
I went the extreme cheap way for most of my stuff! I bought my 1000ml mug from a dollar store, $20 for the changing bag ( ebay), no need for bottle opener because I don't wind my film all the way once spent, spent juice jugs (3L) ha! Finally some good old Rodinal which lasts forever!
It is so true that real photographers develop their own film, it is also true that film is way more fun and rewarding than electrons, Keep the videos coming
I develop C41 and E6 in my sink. If you want to be extremely cheap you can skip the dark bag, I don't recommend it but I developed my first few rolls by loading the film in simply a dark closet. It worked well enough but it's extremely stressful compared to a dark bag. For colour film you can skip the graduate, you only need to be precise during initial mixing since you reuse chemicals for multiple development.
I got everything I needed from a Kaiser starter kit which was somewhere around 80 euro. C41 kits are somewhere around 25 euro for 1 liter kits. E6 is currently smallest in 2.5L kits for 60 euro. Tetenal has said they are releasing 1 1L kit soonish so it should be nice and cheap after that.
Jan Jansen hello my friend I know that you do not know me or I do not know you but I would like to know if you can help me with a question, I am starting to develop film c41 process at home, I would like to ask you I will use my slr camera for scan my film which part is the one that I should put towards the lens, the part of the emulation or the brightest where there is no emulation, hopefully you understand me and hopefully you can help me, apologies for my English, thank you.
@@oscarlopez2052 Emulsion side to the outside worked best for me. The difference in result is quite minor though.
Jan Jansen thankyou man,
Thanks! I just bought a Pentax SPII today, looking forward to giving this hobby a try. Hopefully, if I enjoy it, I’ll buy all this equipment to save money over time, thanks to you!
Your videos are great! You share amazing photographs! Please make more videos because you do amazing work that is so pleasant to watch. Thank you for sharing.
hi travis, i've been developing my own film and making prints in my darkroom all my life, and i love it. i really like your videos, i hope you make more.
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Travis, are you still there? We hope that everything is okay. Hope to see you back one of these days.
This video is nice and contrasty. Well done. Just started to develop a year ago, no problem.
I haven't done that since high school (20 years), but will definitely have a DIY setup eventually. I just got back into film photography after spending $30 on a camera bag containing a late 90's overseas SLR with an owners manual 2 lenses, a remote flash, and a few rolls of fim at a junk shop last month.
I already develop my negs. But I love your way of teach stuff! Helpful as always!
And then consider used stuff or buy on fleamarkets, use aquarium thermometers, or buy in hairdresser’s supply ... and for me I‘m actually using a lot Caffenol M - easy, cheap from local drugstore.
Rodnial is great! I have my bottle now About 1 1/2 Year and it is still not empty and it still develop good, so it is very reliabel and it is cheap. For example for 1 film with Dilution 1+50 you need about 7 or 8 ml, that is not much (you can get about 62 developments out of a 500ml bottle).
Greetings from Germany
Poly Chrome rodinal is the best for this reason! Cheers!
Let's add a dose of reality here. The only positive attribute of Rodinal is its very long life in storage. As a film developer for quality results, it is as poor a developer as you can find on the market today. It is the undisputed king of golf ball grain. Depending on how you use it, it can give an appearance of higher than average sharpness, but not the way most people use it these days. People recommend it for "stand" development, mainly because it's physically easy to mix in huge dilutions, but those folks are the fanboys who fail to mention the uneven densities and bromide streaking you will get. Let's put Rodinal down once and for all time. Try something easy to find and really cheap to buy, and which gives good results, like D-76, used 1:2.(Do as I say, not as I do, since I haven't used D-76 for 50 years.)
You're awesome Travis.
Keep up the good work, film is a lost Art! I think you know the best is to make a print! And watch the magic appear.
That will definitely get you started! Great job
Hi enjoy your stuff when are you doing more it’s been awhile
Thank you for this video!
Thanks Travis for the very informative video. I've been giving some thought to developing my own film (at least black & white) as availability and cost of commercial film processing seems to be getting more and more of an issue as time goes on. For example: I dropped off a roll of exposed 35 mm color film to our local pharmacy that purports to get film processing done (a major national chain who shall remain nameless) going on a month ago..and I'm still waiting! So..if I get these materials and do my own developing of monochrome film..can I then get a film scanner, hook to my computer, and print off my own prints on appropriate printer paper? I have considerable investment in film photography cameras and do not want to give up on film photography yet..and I love film photography. Besides, I like monochrome/black & white in particular (I like that you record many of your videos in black & white). Thanks really enjoy your videos..among my 'go to' videos on TH-cam for anything to do with photography. Keep well.
Where you at?
Is there any way to "print" a negative onto a sensor so that you can dodge and burn and stuff but directly onto a sensor in a darkroom. That would be cool.
are you going to make more vidioes, i hope you do.
I am assuming that this is for B&W film, and these chemicals don't work for color (C41) right?
Thanks for the helpful video!
Great video! How do you dispose your fixer when it’s time for a fresh supply? Do you transfer the liquid to another container or do you dispose of the gallon container and purchase a new one?
Wondering if you could do a video or blog post in the future about issues one can encounter when developing such as how to test old chemicals, film curling, water streaks, over developing/under developing, tap water vs distilled water for mixing chemicals and rinsing, basically a “if this happens to the developed film, it’s because of this” troubleshooting type video. There are a lot of how to videos on TH-cam but haven’t really seen any troubleshooting stuff. Any ways, thanks for all you do!
Juan Garcia hmm that’s a good idea. Honestly there aren’t many problems to encounter but I suppose I can think of five?! Might have to do that in the future.
For disposing the fixer. I pour mine on the poison oak in my yard 😂
But you can pour it into clumping cat litter. Let that harden and throw it away. Easy!
I just pour mine down the Toilet!!! I mean, everyday a lot of nasty waste goes to a toilet so....
Basically, you are right. The dissolved silver compounds in used fixer are probably the worst offender at the water treatment plant, but the days when every 4th family in town was hobby-processing film and paper are long gone. With that ratio down to maybe one in ten thousand, down the drain disposal is a non-impact practice, notwithstanding the regular YT videos complaining to the contrary.
Whats up my man? you are one of the most down to earth and unpretentious film channels out there, I got turned on to your channel when I was researching Rolleiflex. Ive since gotten a flex, a cord and an M645. I wanted to share a review on my channel I just completed of a very bidget BW film called ultrafine xtreme, if you havent heard of it feel free to check it out on my channel and let me know what you think, if you have tried it plz still let me know your experience. respect
What's up bro? I've been following your channel for a while and one thing I like about it is you're one of the most non pretentious film channels out there. I have something you might get a kick out of. I just did a review on my channel of lomography color negative 100 in medium format and it turns out to be one of the most inexpensive medium format color films available. You're more than welcome to check it out. I still have yes to give large format a try after I've seen a couple of your tutorials.
Any news on Travis? I miss the videos and his enthusiasm!
@foresthillfilmlab - what's happening? We love your videos.
Are you still doing this or have you moved on? It's been awhile since you put out content.
It seems like something has happened. The website is no longer active too.
I started leaving messages around December. I wanted to get some film developed. No response. Something must have happened. He is one of my favourites.
I think he is ok. His Instagram account is still active.
@Killindreams
@@leeeeni I just turned up today looking to see if he was still active.....
Harry Stevens me too man...
I love developing my own negs. I find it almost theraputic. Like cooking. Not only that but you can also experiment with different chemicals, too.
I take it you dont use stop bath?
hey travis, you didn't mention stop bath, unless I missed it. I assume it's a nominal cost. Also, how do you dispose of spent chemiicals? Are they safe to dump down regular sink drain? Appreciate the info.
Unless you generate many (10-100 gallons) of spent chemicals, your local water works won't object to you pouring it down the drain as you go. Certain color developing chemicals may need special attention, but most black-and-white film processing chemicals are no worse than washing/cooking "grey water." Check with your local water works just to make sure if you have environmental concerns.
What about ventilation? I've never developed but everything I've read says if you develop in a dark room the fumes are toxic.
Excellent vid Travis
i love you videos keep going
Where you go??
If you mix your developer from concentrate and use it one shot you don't even need to buy a jug. Use a gallon of distilled water for your development and final rinse. You can use distilled water at $1.25 a gallon and you get a free jug which you can refill with tap water for stop bath and fixer. Be wary of buying a $16 film cassette opener which is nothing but a bottle opener. Liquor stores used to give these away for free as promotional items. Same with film clips as was mentioned. Use clothes pins or the metal clips at office supply stores or Walmart.
Did I mention that I am cheap?
does the permawash act like a stop bath?
You are my bearded analog guru!
I want to start printing at home. What enlarger do you recommend. Under $500
Is it difficult trying to get the film in the daylight tank in the bag without seeing what your doing?
You have the same issue in a darkroom. You learn to do it by feel, practicing in the light with a used roll.
Randall Stewart Thanks, good point. Will practice first.
It can be: some times it goes in smooth, other times things can get all screwy. Especially when you’re in too long and start to sweat. It’s important to not panic, and not get frustrated.
Practice, practice, practice, trust me it does get easy after a while, are you triming the corners with a slight angle so that the film starts on the reel without getting hung up?
Hi so do u use a stop bath?
SnakeBitesTattoo no stop bath needed. The water bath after developer followed by fixer does this job automatically.
Great video Travis...thanks for posting! I think this will push me over the edge and begin developing. How would you recommend doing the final rinse when the tap water is over 100 F in the summer (yeh Phoenix)?
Steve Kleinheider I would recommend having a tray of ice cubes on hand to bring that temp down where you need it. I often use them in the summer time as well.
Or just keeping a cold water bottle in the fridge is enough cold water to take that temp down easily.
I'd use refrigerated, jugged water as Forest suggests. To minimize the amount required, dilute the wash water for a temperature around 75 degrees. Use the Ilford wash method by agitate and dump, outlined on their website. Use a true "hypo clear" product which chemically alters the fixer, making it much easier to wash out; it can reduce normal wash process time by as much as 75%. (Sprint markets such as Archive Fixer Remover, costing about a dollar a gallon of working solution). Use a final rinse of a photo-flo type wetting agent mixed with distilled water and hang to dry, (No squeegee.)
You have to add extra time when developing with diluted chemicals right? Is it for all the chemicals and how can you tell how much time to add on?
Its almost 2020 is that bottle of photo flo still there?
"That excuse is BULLSHIT!....I don't wanna hear it again!"
Lmao!!
I use very little photoflo but just noticed my almost full bottle expires in March 2019. Does it really expire?
It doesnt really expire. I have some that is over 10 years old and works fine.
Yea man I can't even tell you how many people tell me they would shoot and develop film if they had a darkroom. Btw if you're ever in the East Bay hit me up I wanna buy you a beer!
Don't forget a funnel. That will really blow the budget ;?)
Nice video, i would love to develop my own film , but i can stand buying a 150$ or more scanners and pasing the tedious and long process of scanning and editing :(
Brian Segarra the Epson v550 is super easy to use and the auto color correction feature is accurate 90% of the time! The files are expired as RAW Tiff images so you can use PS or LR like an image from a DSLR and do you regular edits or tweaks. I seriously recommend it
Brian Segarra scanning takes no more than 20 minutes for 36 images and it's faster than sending off to TheDarkRoomLab or Walgreens
For years developing my film in my toilet :-)
Do you have how to contact to you I need to talk to you
You can message me on Instagram anytime. @killindreams
I dont wanna here it agian:-)
Just don't mention the $3,900 Jobo CPP-3 film and print processor, or the $1,700 Beseler 67XLD enlarger, or the fact that you use the cheapest black and white chemicals you can find, or the fact that those chemicals are one-time-use consumables and have recurring costs.
Glad you liked the video!
Whatever happened to this guy?