Apart from a few content creators that have directly colaborated with them they didn't send screwdrivers. People have genuinely bought them and decided to use them. The few people who received them specially got the regular black with a custom colored ring insert, GamersNexus, level1techs, jayztwocents and a few more i can't remember. That full colored handle had to have been purchased.
Been watching Jeff for a while and came here from his video. I took it as a sign... I've been wanting to get into 3d printing for a loong time and I've been looking at purchasing my first printer and now i have the opportunity to. Ill be keeping an i on this channel. Thanks for the push😂
You will want to print the parts from ABS, PLA is quite bad for static and with the fans blowing over them there is a high chance of a build up of static electricity. With the drives plugged in they should be grounded over the cable but it can arc when you unplug them.
2:30 45Drives and everyone should stop saying the HL15 is for an home lab, its not. And mostly because of the price, is incredibly expensive for any home user unless you are rich. Specially considering you can have the same exact experience with a Fractal Define R case. Update: For the ones not aware, the empty chassis (no MB, CPU, Ram, HBAs, etc) with only the backplane (which in reality you don't need in an home scenario), costs 800 $USD.
a half assed back plane at that. You can save $660 bucks and skip the back plane and get a rosewill with free shipping that will also house 15 disks internally, or go all out and get much sexier and capable cases from other vendors like silverstone loaded with features and more drive bays for the same price
For a fully built model, the price is comparable to other NAS solutions. But for the chassis and backplane only model, it's way over priced for what little you're getting.
Awesome video Joel! Im headed over to Jeffs channel to subscribe now and check the rest out. I got a pihole setup at my house but I been wanting to get a server setup as well. Really cool I can print and customize this one 💯
This is great. I have a small FreeNAS + Plex server that is in desperate need of updating. Now we just need to be able to 3D print the chassis and perhaps even a rack?!
Hi jeff! Its cool to hear your on a different set of mics... cant say if there are better or worse... yours are more bass heavy .... but the qualicty of both are great! just different
First of all, I'll let you know that it has nothing to do with the channel, it's just a rant about the world of 3D printing. Today, I bring a different perspective on 3D printers, based on the research I carried out. I came to a conclusion that I would like to share. I have a comment about the world of 3D printing, which, contrary to what some say about accessibility, is still a world for few. Despite the criticism I may receive for this, I believe that although printers have become more affordable, there is still a long way to go before they become an achievable dream for many people, including myself. It's not just the initial cost of the printer that must be considered. An often overlooked point is the ongoing cost of the filament. Just like in the early days of inkjet printers, where the price of ink was an obstacle, today we face similar challenges with filament. Even though printers have become a little cheaper, filament remains a considerable investment. It is notable that over the years we have not seen a significant reduction in filament prices. There appears to be a lack of real competition, resulting in companies setting prices almost like a monopoly. Filament quality is also a concern, with reports of poor quality not justifying the investment. Another aspect that is rarely addressed is the amount of material wasted due to unsuccessful prints, especially for beginners. Even though errors decrease over time, they do not disappear completely. This is a relevant point to consider, as it contributes to additional costs and not to mention environmental issues. That's why I say it and I repeat, cast the first stone if anyone who has never been through this, even with vast experience, still continues to print with errors and has to do it all over again, no matter the printer or your knowledge, there will be errors and as a result waste of material and input costs. what do we need and start thinking about this issue, well the filament should be cheaper, it would help the person who bought it and nature thanks you. antes de qualquer coisa ja aviso que não tem nada a ver com o canal é apenas um desabafo sobre o mudo das impressões 3d Hoje, trago uma perspectiva diferente sobre impressoras 3D, baseada nas pesquisas que realizei. Cheguei a uma conclusão que gostaria de compartilhar. Tenho um comentário sobre o universo da impressão 3D, que, ao contrário do que alguns afirmam sobre a acessibilidade, ainda é um mundo para poucos. Apesar das críticas que posso receber por isso, acredito que, embora as impressoras tenham se tornado mais acessíveis, ainda há um longo caminho para que se tornem um sonho alcançável para muitas pessoas, incluindo eu mesmo. Não é apenas o custo inicial da impressora que deve ser considerado. Um ponto muitas vezes negligenciado é o custo contínuo do filamento. Assim como no início das impressoras a jato de tinta, onde o preço da tinta era um obstáculo, hoje enfrentamos desafios semelhantes com o filamento. Mesmo que as impressoras tenham ficado um pouco mais baratas, o filamento continua sendo um investimento considerável. É notável que, ao longo dos anos, não tenhamos visto uma redução significativa nos preços do filamento. Parece haver uma falta de concorrência real, resultando em empresas que estabelecem preços quase como um monopólio. A qualidade do filamento também é uma preocupação, com relatos de baixa qualidade que não justificam o investimento. Outro aspecto pouco abordado é a quantidade de material desperdiçado devido a impressões mal sucedidas, especialmente para iniciantes. Mesmo que os erros diminuam com o tempo, não desaparecem completamente. Este é um ponto relevante a considerar, pois contribui para custos adicionais e sem falar das questões ambientais. por isso falo e repito , atire a primeira pedra quem nunca passou por isso ,mesmo com uma vasta experiência, ainda continua imprimindo com falhas e teve que fazer tudo de novo , não importa a impressora ou seu conhecimento , vai haver erros e como consequência desperdício de material e gastos com insumos. o que precisamos e começar a pensar sobre esta questão , poxa bem que o filamento deveria ser mais barato , ajudaria a pessoa que comprou e a natureza agradece.
I mentioned this on Techno Tim's video about this case and how for the value it's not worth it for a home lab setup that you have to build up anyways. Way too much money for no front IO, no access to drives without unracking, no rack rails, the back plane isn't full speed for every port, if you use the designed slots for the 2.5 drives they are literally sideways infront of the fans blocking them (other cases don't do that), I could go on but this is just not a good option for $800 compared to the rest of the market for home lab use cases. Needless to say his viewers didn't like that, hell he even posted in the thread calling me names when in his own paid advertisement, oh I mean totally unbiased YT video that just happened to come along with over 2 grand worth of free gifts, he mentioned that there was nothing else on the market like this and it was the best option out there. At least here Joel and Crafted didn't try and lie about what it is, props for a more honest video, getting harder to find those these days when every other video someone gets thousands in free stuff and still pretends like they were not paid and there's no bias.... For real homelab use there are way more valuable options from SuperMicro, SilverStone, hell even Rosewill and used commercial servers can bring more to the table for $800 than HL can.
@@chomp7927 My toughts exactly. Watched this after watching the “build” video on his channel where it’s just an obvious masked plug for HL15. 800$ for the case alone it’s nuts !
I kinda wish Linus would have done 32 gamers on one server.... max out the usb spec, and find out if it will do doom, cod, or something newer; and at what resolution over usb.
RAID IS NOT A BACKUP... say it louder for the people in the back. Awesome to this, especially since a friend picked one of these up a month(?) or so ago for use in their home lab. I like this, not just because practical prints, but because it's yet another case of "here's a company that sells a product and 3D printed parts are appropriate and fine". I understand injection molding and such "take something from a hobby to a product" and "it's so much more efficient and cheaper to injection mold" but that's not always true. You need to hit that proper cost/modification amount before you can get to them. One of my favorite moments was seeing an office email saying the fancy $10k coffee maker broke... and then the repair man shows up (because those machines require maintenance contracts), opens the thing up, and inside... were a bunch of 3D printed brackets and the part that actually holds the brewing component (a metal cup grounds go in, pressed by a paddle, pressurized water injected over the grounds, etc.)... that holder was 3D printed (appeared to be PETG or ABS) and had cracked, so some grounds spilled, it wasn't pressing the grounds down, etc. The next day, he showed up with a new 3D printed part... and machine was repaired and back in business. If someone wants to complain that some company needs to "modernize" with injection molded parts, I casually gesture towards the "artisanal" coffee machines that use 3D printed parts instead of injection molding. My guess, since the machines are imported, is that by utilizing a 3D printer they can localize repairs/replacements of the machine.
Hi Joel I am working on a book that goes over 3d printing and fixing issues so people don’t have to go all over the internet to find one tiny reliable thing to help them when printing and all the information is going to be there so not long rabbit hole search I am going to go over Filament Print temperatures Requirements Simple printer maintenance Intro Belt tensioning Aligned printer Leveled and squared Bed springs Motors Z Lead screw Dual z lead axis Extruder gears Leveling your bed The importance of leveling your bed How to level your Printer bed 2 Warped bed Use a cr touch Bed adhesion Importance Reset slicer Leveled Painters tape Adhesives Bed texture Filament Bed temperature How to fix Cr touch What does the cr touch do Bent probe Stuck probe Wired wrong Right firmware ware Connected Z limit switch Firmware What is Firmware What is offered by Creality 3 Made by the community Wiring Introduction Is it wired correctly Wire management Quick soldering info Bent pins Heating/Temperature Why temperature matters Heating importance Different filaments best temperature Room Temperature Bed not heating Hot end not heating. Extruder Clicking Grinding Wearing away channel in plastic Skipping 3d Printer nozzle 4 Shaky filament head Jams Heating Blob of death Boden tube Direct drive Nosie Silent board Upgrade fans What your printer is on Normal problems Spaghetti Stringing Elephant's foot Layer separation Z seem Layer shift Z offset Under extrusion Pillowing Warping or print lifting 5 Overhangs Support issues Blobs on outside of print Scars on prints Stop extruding mid print Infill showing Slicing software Purpose Quick run through What is g code? Sd card not showing up on printer How to work How to cut print time Is there any thing that you think that I should add this is all for ender 3 by the way thanks for any help Also any one in the comments who sees something that you might like to add please let me know I am very tired of trying to get information that doesn’t work.
Can you guess the color of my underwear? No? And i can't tell the color of the 3D printed parts of your server because they are hidden. Not visible to the public.
I love this but to be honiest a Synology Server would have been just the right thing you need. With so many choices they have you could have gotten one that fits your budget and had the features your looking for. Just my two cents.
Whoever at LTT decided they should send out screw drivers to every maker/tech related channel deserves a raise, it is impossible to avoid
Linus doesn't need a raise
We got to build them at LTX! Now that was some genius marketing!
Apart from a few content creators that have directly colaborated with them they didn't send screwdrivers. People have genuinely bought them and decided to use them. The few people who received them specially got the regular black with a custom colored ring insert, GamersNexus, level1techs, jayztwocents and a few more i can't remember.
That full colored handle had to have been purchased.
And they make a screwdriver extension now too!
Unexpected Cross-Over of 2 channels I follow... Always a pleasure when these things transpire!
What an awesome collab. Two nerds going at it for our entertainment.
So cool! Two of my favorite content creators and two of my hobbies! Cheers!
Excellent & entertaining cross-promotion. Well-did.
Absolutely FLAWLESS VIDEO!!!!
Awesome! Been watching you both for quite a while. I play an IT guy at my computer janitor job, and I make plastic spaghetti while at home!
Hey! I am from Nova Scotia, Canada! Awesome!!
Liz!!!! I have to say I didn't expect to see you in these comments lol
@@TheNetworkingGuy Me? Miss a Joel video? Never!
Proper storage and work flows are a lifesaver, congratulations on the new hardware and I hope it makes your life easier.
Been watching Jeff for a while and came here from his video. I took it as a sign... I've been wanting to get into 3d printing for a loong time and I've been looking at purchasing my first printer and now i have the opportunity to. Ill be keeping an i on this channel. Thanks for the push😂
You will want to print the parts from ABS, PLA is quite bad for static and with the fans blowing over them there is a high chance of a build up of static electricity. With the drives plugged in they should be grounded over the cable but it can arc when you unplug them.
Conducting or metal-detector triggering PLA? Might help with the shielding, at least.
Huzzah! And yes, the blue POPS
I love these two creators, great colab!
2:30 45Drives and everyone should stop saying the HL15 is for an home lab, its not.
And mostly because of the price, is incredibly expensive for any home user unless you are rich.
Specially considering you can have the same exact experience with a Fractal Define R case.
Update: For the ones not aware, the empty chassis (no MB, CPU, Ram, HBAs, etc) with only the backplane (which in reality you don't need in an home scenario), costs 800 $USD.
a half assed back plane at that. You can save $660 bucks and skip the back plane and get a rosewill with free shipping that will also house 15 disks internally, or go all out and get much sexier and capable cases from other vendors like silverstone loaded with features and more drive bays for the same price
Great video! I love practical prints! I recently implemented a 60TB NAS in my workflow, it is a lifesaver.
The Bob & Doug Mckenzie...... So Good.
I have not heard that sound in 2 decades... :-)
Nova Scotia represents
love to see collabs like this.
Is that an ltt screedriver at 3:52?
I got mine for Xmas :)
45Drives really hits home with these servers. Might just need one of those in my own network too.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa sooooo excited
For a fully built model, the price is comparable to other NAS solutions. But for the chassis and backplane only model, it's way over priced for what little you're getting.
Nice colab. And both people I normally watch!
As a Canadian I really appreciate the Bob & Doug Strange Brew reference.
Why oh why did you then put black zip ties back in the case for cable management? You can purchase them in all different colors, including blue.
All Blue might be tacky. Now it's "two tone" and looks sweet! 😎
seeing Jeff without beer was kind of weird. lol. Good video though. I really want a couple HL15s.
but a pink LTT screwdriver. wow.
Awesome video Joel! Im headed over to Jeffs channel to subscribe now and check the rest out. I got a pihole setup at my house but I been wanting to get a server setup as well. Really cool I can print and customize this one 💯
This is great. I have a small FreeNAS + Plex server that is in desperate need of updating. Now we just need to be able to 3D print the chassis and perhaps even a rack?!
Great white north reference, excellent. Take off hoser
Dude I was working on a thing like this. Definitely going to use it
I really dig this collab.
Can you 3d print a 3d printer with a 3d printer
Yes
Can i yous a Noctua NA-VC1 controler to put a 12v noctua fan on my wxrude ??)
Good Solution and Servers are mostly ugly form the Outside. Good interaction from you two!
hey my x1 carbon screeen froze what to do
Great video eh, thanks you hosers!
I would live a storage server, I'm always running out of space.
Hi jeff! Its cool to hear your on a different set of mics... cant say if there are better or worse... yours are more bass heavy .... but the qualicty of both are great! just different
need to extend the ssd and make a cap for the hdd so they match
Hey Jeff, I just realized I have that exact same hat! (but grey)
Someone should make a completely 3d printed 45drives case with support for standard atx motherboards and no backplane.
"...we form Voltron..." lol I didn't know you were in IT BITD... (or I forgot I knew that, my memory is a bit corrupted) Cool collab, guys!
What a small world! Who knew? Now I want a beer. Jeff!!! ❤🍺 Perfect B roll by the way… 2k is s cheap. Can I get that same server for 2k? ❤😂
A quick glance thought Joe was back in the studio - but no I'm a printer shirt
Missed an opportunity for an ltt screwdriver
LTT vodka and orange juice? j/k
came her from jeff channel!
great work!
Thanks for coming
First of all, I'll let you know that it has nothing to do with the channel, it's just a rant about the world of 3D printing.
Today, I bring a different perspective on 3D printers, based on the research I carried out.
I came to a conclusion that I would like to share.
I have a comment about the world of 3D printing, which, contrary to what some say about accessibility, is still a world for few. Despite the criticism I may receive for this, I believe that although printers have become more affordable, there is still a long way to go before they become an achievable dream for many people, including myself.
It's not just the initial cost of the printer that must be considered. An often overlooked point is the ongoing cost of the filament. Just like in the early days of inkjet printers, where the price of ink was an obstacle, today we face similar challenges with filament. Even though printers have become a little cheaper, filament remains a considerable investment.
It is notable that over the years we have not seen a significant reduction in filament prices. There appears to be a lack of real competition, resulting in companies setting prices almost like a monopoly. Filament quality is also a concern, with reports of poor quality not justifying the investment.
Another aspect that is rarely addressed is the amount of material wasted due to unsuccessful prints, especially for beginners. Even though errors decrease over time, they do not disappear completely. This is a relevant point to consider, as it contributes to additional costs and not to mention environmental issues.
That's why I say it and I repeat, cast the first stone if anyone who has never been through this, even with vast experience, still continues to print with errors and has to do it all over again, no matter the printer or your knowledge, there will be errors and as a result waste of material and input costs. what do we need and start thinking about this issue, well the filament should be cheaper, it would help the person who bought it and nature thanks you.
antes de qualquer coisa ja aviso que não tem nada a ver com o canal é apenas um desabafo sobre o mudo das impressões 3d
Hoje, trago uma perspectiva diferente sobre impressoras 3D, baseada nas pesquisas que realizei.
Cheguei a uma conclusão que gostaria de compartilhar.
Tenho um comentário sobre o universo da impressão 3D, que, ao contrário do que alguns afirmam sobre a acessibilidade, ainda é um mundo para poucos. Apesar das críticas que posso receber por isso, acredito que, embora as impressoras tenham se tornado mais acessíveis, ainda há um longo caminho para que se tornem um sonho alcançável para muitas pessoas, incluindo eu mesmo.
Não é apenas o custo inicial da impressora que deve ser considerado. Um ponto muitas vezes negligenciado é o custo contínuo do filamento. Assim como no início das impressoras a jato de tinta, onde o preço da tinta era um obstáculo, hoje enfrentamos desafios semelhantes com o filamento. Mesmo que as impressoras tenham ficado um pouco mais baratas, o filamento continua sendo um investimento considerável.
É notável que, ao longo dos anos, não tenhamos visto uma redução significativa nos preços do filamento. Parece haver uma falta de concorrência real, resultando em empresas que estabelecem preços quase como um monopólio. A qualidade do filamento também é uma preocupação, com relatos de baixa qualidade que não justificam o investimento.
Outro aspecto pouco abordado é a quantidade de material desperdiçado devido a impressões mal sucedidas, especialmente para iniciantes. Mesmo que os erros diminuam com o tempo, não desaparecem completamente. Este é um ponto relevante a considerar, pois contribui para custos adicionais e sem falar das questões ambientais.
por isso falo e repito , atire a primeira pedra quem nunca passou por isso ,mesmo com uma vasta experiência, ainda continua imprimindo com falhas e teve que fazer tudo de novo , não importa a impressora ou seu conhecimento , vai haver erros e como consequência desperdício de material e gastos com insumos. o que precisamos e começar a pensar sobre esta questão , poxa bem que o filamento deveria ser mais barato , ajudaria a pessoa que comprou e a natureza agradece.
Joel + Jeff?? The colab we didn't think we needed
until we saw this and realised we absolutly needed it!!
PO Box? I knew you were local to me, but didn't realize you were practically down the street...
at 5'7", I feel like I would rest my chin on the table
it IS quite a tall desk :)
Did 45 Drives provide the files for the parts, and do they do that for everyone or only you guys because you were marketing for them?
In the video I talked about going to Printables to get the files
Thank you. Sorry I missed it.
High Five Blue == Tardis Blue. Change my mind.
Why change your mind? Thinking otherwise would be incorrect :)
Silicon material 3D Printing, ever done that?
Better and cheaper option would be a used Supermicro 36-bay chassis.
I think the HL15 is too little for too much imho
I mentioned this on Techno Tim's video about this case and how for the value it's not worth it for a home lab setup that you have to build up anyways. Way too much money for no front IO, no access to drives without unracking, no rack rails, the back plane isn't full speed for every port, if you use the designed slots for the 2.5 drives they are literally sideways infront of the fans blocking them (other cases don't do that), I could go on but this is just not a good option for $800 compared to the rest of the market for home lab use cases.
Needless to say his viewers didn't like that, hell he even posted in the thread calling me names when in his own paid advertisement, oh I mean totally unbiased YT video that just happened to come along with over 2 grand worth of free gifts, he mentioned that there was nothing else on the market like this and it was the best option out there.
At least here Joel and Crafted didn't try and lie about what it is, props for a more honest video, getting harder to find those these days when every other video someone gets thousands in free stuff and still pretends like they were not paid and there's no bias....
For real homelab use there are way more valuable options from SuperMicro, SilverStone, hell even Rosewill and used commercial servers can bring more to the table for $800 than HL can.
@@chomp7927 My toughts exactly.
Watched this after watching the “build” video on his channel where it’s just an obvious masked plug for HL15.
800$ for the case alone it’s nuts !
Let that man have a beer....,....
what does the glass ceiling of the PLA mean?
i was expecting you to print it
curious what percentage of your audience know Bob and Doug McKenzie? and then to close with RAID is not backup. classics
I kinda wish Linus would have done 32 gamers on one server.... max out the usb spec, and find out if it will do doom, cod, or something newer; and at what resolution over usb.
Dug the VOLTRON reference...also the LTT SD.
RAID IS NOT A BACKUP... say it louder for the people in the back. Awesome to this, especially since a friend picked one of these up a month(?) or so ago for use in their home lab. I like this, not just because practical prints, but because it's yet another case of "here's a company that sells a product and 3D printed parts are appropriate and fine". I understand injection molding and such "take something from a hobby to a product" and "it's so much more efficient and cheaper to injection mold" but that's not always true. You need to hit that proper cost/modification amount before you can get to them.
One of my favorite moments was seeing an office email saying the fancy $10k coffee maker broke... and then the repair man shows up (because those machines require maintenance contracts), opens the thing up, and inside... were a bunch of 3D printed brackets and the part that actually holds the brewing component (a metal cup grounds go in, pressed by a paddle, pressurized water injected over the grounds, etc.)... that holder was 3D printed (appeared to be PETG or ABS) and had cracked, so some grounds spilled, it wasn't pressing the grounds down, etc. The next day, he showed up with a new 3D printed part... and machine was repaired and back in business. If someone wants to complain that some company needs to "modernize" with injection molded parts, I casually gesture towards the "artisanal" coffee machines that use 3D printed parts instead of injection molding. My guess, since the machines are imported, is that by utilizing a 3D printer they can localize repairs/replacements of the machine.
So much Canadiana!
First we form Voltron, THEN we assemble the server.
Literally every computer person has that 17" dell, and none of us know where we got them.
That’s so true! Like, EVERYONE
I thought you were going to print a computer case.
"STICKERS" and you get a sticker
blue color on closed case lol
Hi Joel I am working on a book that goes over 3d printing and fixing issues so people don’t have to go all over the internet to find one tiny reliable thing to help them when printing and all the information is going to be there so not long rabbit hole search I am going to go over Filament
Print temperatures Requirements
Simple printer maintenance
Intro
Belt tensioning Aligned printer Leveled and squared Bed springs
Motors
Z Lead screw
Dual z lead axis Extruder gears
Leveling your bed
The importance of leveling your bed How to level your Printer bed
2
Warped bed Use a cr touch
Bed adhesion
Importance Reset slicer Leveled Painters tape Adhesives
Bed texture Filament
Bed temperature
How to fix Cr touch
What does the cr touch do Bent probe
Stuck probe
Wired wrong
Right firmware ware Connected Z limit switch Firmware
What is Firmware
What is offered by Creality
3
Made by the community
Wiring
Introduction
Is it wired correctly Wire management Quick soldering info Bent pins
Heating/Temperature
Why temperature matters
Heating importance
Different filaments best temperature Room Temperature
Bed not heating
Hot end not heating.
Extruder
Clicking
Grinding
Wearing away channel in plastic Skipping
3d Printer nozzle
4
Shaky filament head Jams
Heating
Blob of death Boden tube
Direct drive
Nosie
Silent board
Upgrade fans
What your printer is on
Normal problems
Spaghetti Stringing Elephant's foot Layer separation Z seem
Layer shift
Z offset
Under extrusion Pillowing
Warping or print lifting
5
Overhangs
Support issues
Blobs on outside of print Scars on prints
Stop extruding mid print Infill showing
Slicing software
Purpose
Quick run through
What is g code?
Sd card not showing up on printer How to work
How to cut print time
Is there any thing that you think that I should add this is all for ender 3 by the way thanks for any help
Also any one in the comments who sees something that you might like to add please let me know I am very tired of trying to get information that doesn’t work.
As good as this video was... I really feel like you should have went down the Voltron lane.
Now THAT is something I can get behind
Can you guess the color of my underwear? No? And i can't tell the color of the 3D printed parts of your server because they are hidden. Not visible to the public.
Uh, cool, I guess?
Why care about color if it's covered up in the end?
sup
please tell me you're going to put linux on it
it's TrueNAS
Josef Prusa slim clone
I love this but to be honiest a Synology Server would have been just the right thing you need. With so many choices they have you could have gotten one that fits your budget and had the features your looking for. Just my two cents.
LTT makes a screwdriver extension now! i noticed in the video where you couldn't get all the way down to a screw 🪛 😋