Luke 17,22-24 and he said that his disciples, you will long to see one of the days (meaning more than one)of the son of man, but you will not see it, for as lightning flashes in lights up the sky so shall the coming of the son of man be
I think post tribulation view does not take into account the love of God for the faithful. Just as loving parents will not let any of their children go through unnecessary pain & suffering, so likewise God's unconditional and perfect love will not allow his children to go through untold suffering of the 7 years of the great tribulation. [As in the days of Noah & Lot]
Then tell me why in the past and even today in most parts of the world especially those countries ruled by Islam Christians are suffering brutal torment and deaths, does God love them less? It's only in the western world that this pre-trib rapture is taught Jesus Himself said that Christians would suffer presercution be put in prison and killed for His name so how do you think only now that Christians will "escape" what's about to happen? I think it's very clear that the church will be protected through the tribulation not taken out before it starts
Jesus debunked the pretrib secrect rapture 2,000 years ago :) John 16:33 kjv These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. John 15:20 kjv Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. Jesus prayer: John 17:15 kjv I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
Hi, I'm a real person. I respectfully disagree. I believe it is the same event. Could you please show me where in the Bible it says that the return of Christ will be secret?
You're not a pre-tribulationist because you're not saved and ready for Titus 2:13 for that blessed hope, which is the hope of his return before the judgments of God found in Revelation, like I said to everyone Jesus wouldn't beat his wife and then call her home. But clearly when you read 1st Thessalonians 4:16 it says the Lord descends from heaven with a shout but he does not stand on the Earth and we go up to meet him. So but at the end call tribulation he would send out his angels with a sound of a trumpet to gather the elect where can find out Zachariah 14 when his feet stand on the Mount of Olives an amount of all the splits into to the north and to the South when setting up the thousand Year millennial Kingdom, 1st Thessalonians 5:9 States the fact that we are not called to wrath of God but for attained ng salvation, the last half of the seven-year tribulation God will be pouring out bold judgments and trumpet judgment Jesus also said as it was in the days of Noah as it was in the days of a lot okay so he took the people who were of the Lord righteous lot and righteous Noah and took them out of danger before !!!! the judgment comes. 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 also States a fact that the restrainer(spirit and bride) will be removed before Antichrist is even revealed for the 7 year trib
Jesus debunked the pretrib secret rapture 2,000 years ago :) John 16:33 kjv These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. John 15:20 kjv Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. Jesus prayer: John 17:15 kjv I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
You have no right to say that post tribulationalist are not saved you don't know our hearts or our relationship with God you only say that because we don't agree with you the church has been presacuted since the beginning of the church age why is it only now that today's church gets the privilege of excaping the wrath of satan? Do you not believe that Almighty God could protect His church through the tribulation instead of taking us out of it?
The Bible does not mention a pretribulational rapture in any scripture; in fact, the scriptures say the exact opposite. Jesus himself said that the tribulation comes before His return. 2Thessalonians 2:4 is very specific about the Antichrist coming before the gathering unto Christ. All the Old Testament prophecies also support the post tribulation coming and gathering together with the Messiah. The pretrib “rapture” theory is the most dangerous false doctrine that began in the 1800s and continues, to a lesser degree, to this day. Jesus said that the believers will be handed over to be put to death for His namesake, and if the tribulation had not been shortened for the elect’s sake, no one would survive. Read Matthew 24, Daniel, Joel, 2Thessalonians, and Revelation 6-22.
Luke 17,22-24 and he said that his disciples, you will long to see one of the days (meaning more than one)of the son of man, but you will not see it, for as lightning flashes in lights up the sky so shall the coming of the son of man be
The rapture is not secret.
It’s a myth and not scriptural.
❤ Jesus Christ our Lord God and Savior ❤
I think post tribulation view does not take into account the love of God for the faithful. Just as loving parents will not let any of their children go through unnecessary pain & suffering, so likewise God's unconditional and perfect love will not allow his children to go through untold suffering of the 7 years of the great tribulation. [As in the days of Noah & Lot]
Then tell me why in the past and even today in most parts of the world especially those countries ruled by Islam Christians are suffering brutal torment and deaths, does God love them less? It's only in the western world that this pre-trib rapture is taught Jesus Himself said that Christians would suffer presercution be put in prison and killed for His name so how do you think only now that Christians will "escape" what's about to happen? I think it's very clear that the church will be protected through the tribulation not taken out before it starts
Jesus debunked the pretrib secrect rapture 2,000 years ago :)
John 16:33 kjv These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
John 15:20 kjv Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
Jesus prayer:
John 17:15 kjv I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
Wrong answer. God is /was anything but loving. Read your Bible and stop listening to them Jack legs at your local church
The rapture and Second coming of Christ are 2 separate event. Read your Bible again unless you are an AI
Hi, I'm a real person. I respectfully disagree. I believe it is the same event. Could you please show me where in the Bible it says that the return of Christ will be secret?
Amen...two different events The Rapture and the Thousand Year Rein
You're not a pre-tribulationist because you're not saved and ready for Titus 2:13 for that blessed hope, which is the hope of his return before the judgments of God found in Revelation, like I said to everyone Jesus wouldn't beat his wife and then call her home. But clearly when you read 1st Thessalonians 4:16 it says the Lord descends from heaven with a shout but he does not stand on the Earth and we go up to meet him. So but at the end call tribulation he would send out his angels with a sound of a trumpet to gather the elect where can find out Zachariah 14 when his feet stand on the Mount of Olives an amount of all the splits into to the north and to the South when setting up the thousand Year millennial Kingdom, 1st Thessalonians 5:9 States the fact that we are not called to wrath of God but for attained ng salvation, the last half of the seven-year tribulation God will be pouring out bold judgments and trumpet judgment Jesus also said as it was in the days of Noah as it was in the days of a lot okay so he took the people who were of the Lord righteous lot and righteous Noah and took them out of danger before !!!! the judgment comes. 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 also States a fact that the restrainer(spirit and bride) will be removed before Antichrist is even revealed for the 7 year trib
We are saved by grace, through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, not by our eschatological view. Jesus does not return until the last day.
Jesus debunked the pretrib secret rapture 2,000 years ago :)
John 16:33 kjv These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
John 15:20 kjv Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
Jesus prayer:
John 17:15 kjv I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
You have no right to say that post tribulationalist are not saved you don't know our hearts or our relationship with God you only say that because we don't agree with you the church has been presacuted since the beginning of the church age why is it only now that today's church gets the privilege of excaping the wrath of satan? Do you not believe that Almighty God could protect His church through the tribulation instead of taking us out of it?
The rapture is nowhere in the Bible. If it's then please show me
It's called...The catching away
The Bible does not mention a pretribulational rapture in any scripture; in fact, the scriptures say the exact opposite. Jesus himself said that the tribulation comes before His return. 2Thessalonians 2:4 is very specific about the Antichrist coming before the gathering unto Christ. All the Old Testament prophecies also support the post tribulation coming and gathering together with the Messiah. The pretrib “rapture” theory is the most dangerous false doctrine that began in the 1800s and continues, to a lesser degree, to this day. Jesus said that the believers will be handed over to be put to death for His namesake, and if the tribulation had not been shortened for the elect’s sake, no one would survive. Read Matthew 24, Daniel, Joel, 2Thessalonians, and Revelation 6-22.
The rapture it self is 🚫 t even Bible. Ppl need to read the Bible for themselves
Pre-tribs won’t admit that we’re already in the Tribulation…
Tribulations begins 7 year period when antichrist makes covenant with nation of Israel..no tribulation yet but not far away