6 mistakes EVERY new backpacker makes packing up

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  • @DanBecker
    @DanBecker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    Subscribe or I'll put rocks in your backpack..

    • @Z0MB13Redfield
      @Z0MB13Redfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can I substitute the rocks for free gear? Lol

    • @TexasRoast
      @TexasRoast 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      how dare you?! XD

    • @collegedad8656
      @collegedad8656 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I put rocks in last👍

    • @romantressler4480
      @romantressler4480 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's something Kyle from "Kyle hates hiking" would do."

    • @sheld2229
      @sheld2229 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Done!

  • @m.hernandez1404
    @m.hernandez1404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    Dan, we all know it's best to just carry all your gear in your arms. Everything accessible and save money on a backpack.

    • @bendburley
      @bendburley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Haha. This is how I do my grocery shopping: if I can’t carry it in my arms to avoid having to buy the 10 cent plastic bag at the checkout, then I don’t buy it 😂

    • @bob_the_bomb4508
      @bob_the_bomb4508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @D B are you in the Air Force?

    • @m.hernandez1404
      @m.hernandez1404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No joke, I have seen people hiking and pulling small folding wagons

    • @SailingCorina
      @SailingCorina 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      "Why did you choose your backpack model?" "Because I didn't want to carry everything in my arms." From the movie A Walk in the Woods

    • @m.hernandez1404
      @m.hernandez1404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bill Bryson- A Walk in the Woods

  • @Just_Samson
    @Just_Samson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    There is this dude that always tries to jump in my pack before a trip. His name is “Justin Case”. Watch out for him. He’ll get in your bag if your not paying attention. You’ve been warned 😉

    • @DanBecker
      @DanBecker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      😂

    • @weka6533
      @weka6533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      So that’s who’s weighing my pack down!!

    • @lakorai2
      @lakorai2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Juston Outdoors is the man

    • @jdbegley5
      @jdbegley5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😂 😂 😂

  • @phild8095
    @phild8095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    What our WWII vet scoutmaster taught us
    Quick access to these items, first aid, water, map, compass, guidebook, personal protection if carrying
    second access, fire, snacks, TP, rain gear
    Tent on outside of pack at bottom
    Wool socks rule!
    If with a group distribute group items so that if one pack gets lost the entire trip isn't lost. (cooking gear, tarps, poles, ropes)
    Also if traveling with a group confirm before during and after packing that critical items are with the group.
    Don't worry abut wearing the same clothes more than one day, but always pack for a wet day and a method of getting dry, cold and wet can kill faster than cold and dry
    Cold weather camping, change into warm dry clothes as the sun goes down,
    Never miss an opportunity to dry out some clothes, hanging laundry on the outside of your pack while hiking will give you more dry clothes to wear.
    And this is one I learned from experience, Bears can figure out how you hung your food up with a rope. So have something that they can't rip open like a can of stew or something. (that was a long walk back to civilization)
    If wading with a pack on loosen the straps and be ready to shed the pack rather than have it drown you
    Break in your boots before the trip.
    Things have gotten so much easier these days, plastic bags have improved, waterproof stuff is better, we didn't even have disposable lighters until like 1973. A few people carried zippos, and everyone had matches in little pill containers. And someone had a magnifying glass. Oh, and packs were heavy canvas and some had leather straps and buckles. Yah, it was kinda primitive back then.
    BUT IT WAS FUN AND WE GOT GOOD AT IT.

  • @blackoak4978
    @blackoak4978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    For anyone starting I would say the best advice I can give is "get out there and embrace the suck". Making a trip entirely comfortable is extremely hard and requires luck and often expensive gear, and you still may find it's not enough. Use the gear you have to go out in good weather, accept that you will be uncomfortable to some degree and enjoy everything else that comes from backpacking. Better gear will come over time, and by that point you will have learned what you personally want from your gear

    • @scojo6377
      @scojo6377 ปีที่แล้ว

      The most uncomfortable part of camping for me is sleeping. Which is why I bought a walmart hammock. Results remain to be seen.

  • @bihlygoat
    @bihlygoat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you pack your rain jacket in an outside pocket (which I like to do for those sudden mountain thunderstorms). Roll it from the bottom up then tuck it in its hood. Otherwise the rain can get the inside wet before you pull it out.

  • @filmic1
    @filmic1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    'Don't pack your fears!' that's priceless!

  • @gotautoskills7552
    @gotautoskills7552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    spent many of moon studying backpacking, want first trip to be pleasant, most helpful guy I have watched, thank you, that is all

  • @thesaint8077
    @thesaint8077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m a newbie and really appreciated the “don’t pack your fears” comment. It rang true with me and I appreciate it. I subsequently hit subscribe :)

  • @AirdrieRambler
    @AirdrieRambler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you are backpacking for a full day then it is likely that the last thing you are going to require access to is your tent. For me, pack the gear in easly identifiable waterproof bags and pack them with the ones you are most likely to need near the top. I mean, it's a 60l rucksack.It's hardly going to take a minute to empty it all if you had to. I agree with Dan on the first aid kit, mine s brightly coloured and lives in the mesh pocket on the outside of the pack. Where possible I try to avoid strapping things onto my rucksack though. The last thing you want is to find that your shelter has fallen off and you are miles from anywhere with no tent. Use a bag big enough to carry all your gear where possible.

  • @Mickster8614
    @Mickster8614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use a large drum liner as a pack liner. I also keep my tarp and shelter in the sleeping bag compartment below the liner so I don't need to even get into the main compartment to get to them.

  • @gregmortonoutdoors
    @gregmortonoutdoors 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    You missed one of the biggest ones. Keep your poop kit where you can easily and quickly get to it. I think we've all been hit with that moment of fear on trail when the call of nature arrives quite unexpectedly.

    • @HerrFinsternis
      @HerrFinsternis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Hehe this reminds me of the time my early spring hike turned out to be a winterhike. Had to get out of the hammock in the middle of the night for a very urgent #2, couldn't find my toiletpaper, couldn't find my light to help find the paper and temperatures had dropped to below -10C (16K). Panic mode engaged :)

    • @DanBecker
      @DanBecker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Truth!

    • @hindsfeetonhighplaces
      @hindsfeetonhighplaces 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Had this happen yesterday as I was doing a short section of the Florida Trail. Thankfully my PK was exactly where it should be with exactly what should have been in it and everything came out OK! :-p

    • @secretsquirrel6718
      @secretsquirrel6718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The heck is a poop kit?

    • @hindsfeetonhighplaces
      @hindsfeetonhighplaces 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@secretsquirrel6718 A small kit with a little shovel a toilet paper roll and some hand sanitizer. For when nature calls on the trail

  • @bob_the_bomb4508
    @bob_the_bomb4508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It’s always odd to me that tents made or sold in the US tend to be ‘inner first’. European tents tend to be ‘flysheet first’ which means you can put up the fly in the rain without getting the inner wet. In the morning you can pack the dry inner into its own stuff sack.
    Also I use what I call the ‘triple bag’ system. A pack liner, a stuff sack for each ‘system’ (sleep, food, clothes etc) and then each individual clothing item into its own thin plastic bag. This is something I learned by experience…

    • @HerrFinsternis
      @HerrFinsternis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes thank you. It still amazes me the 'inner first' design is so prevalent. I'm waiting for the European and US design philosophies to come together and design an 'outer first' tent that's both very light and has good ventilation. Off the top of my head TarpTent is the only one that does that but I don't like their inner tent designs. The Tarptent Moment does look attractive though (I don't use tracking poles). Pretent has an interesting tent in their Light Rock, but the vestibule is too small to cook in. Some other manufacturers come close as well but have a very closed off inner tent.
      At the moment my favourite tent (among the ones I own) is the naturehike cloud peak 2, which is a hilleberg Allak knockoff weighing 2.1 kilo's. Which is it's major drawback. Designwise it's excellent, I just want it to be lighter.

    • @bob_the_bomb4508
      @bob_the_bomb4508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HerrFinsternis I have a Vaude two person tent but it’s heavy and the waterproofing has failed.
      I have my eye on a Nordisk 2.2. Only 1 kg…

    • @HerrFinsternis
      @HerrFinsternis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bob_the_bomb4508 ah yes I have looked at that Nordisk a lot as well, it's a very attractive package. I love the two entrances and it seems well ventilated compared to others of it's kind.
      There's two things I would like to see different though, one of the a personal preference. There's not a lot of mesh in the inner, and I like being able to look outside when I have the outer door open.
      The other thing is the weatherproofness of the fly. It's only 2000mm on the fly, which is just a tad low and doesn't do the longevity any good. Floor is great at 8000, which is more important I guess.
      But at 1 kilo ... Maybe I should just give it a go I do love a side entry tent.

    • @bob_the_bomb4508
      @bob_the_bomb4508 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HerrFinsternis yes I’d like more mesh too…

    • @thomask4978
      @thomask4978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the Msr hubba hubba NX 2. With a 2 strings or other fabric band I should be able to pitch up the flysheet first or solo and then hang up the inner tent. I made something similar with my Helsport Ringstind a few years ago. Usually I needed to use the flysheet and inner tent because the flysheet curved the tent pole. In Australia it was warm and I made a string that held the tent poles together and on that way I could use the inner tent solo.

  • @siriusvenus8708
    @siriusvenus8708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The backpack liner kitchen garbage bag tip is so easy that I feel like saying duh because I live in a climate with a very rainy season and I kept having to dry out my gear and never thought of this most simple remedy for this huge problem. Thanks! These are the kind of simple tricks and tips one "learns" after many hard experiences and you're just popping them out and it's amazing how "hard" it is to think of these very easy solutions before the problem begins!

  • @gallonsofhairspray5451
    @gallonsofhairspray5451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I “pack my fears” like you wouldn’t believe!
    Good tip, thank you

    • @chadbrooks9763
      @chadbrooks9763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'll go on a 2 day trip and bring 5 days of food so I'll "have variety" even tho I just eat the 1st thing I grab for snacks and dinner

  • @kayseacamp
    @kayseacamp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    With living in the desert the fear that I ALWAYS pack is more water than what would be reasonable to carry. Granted it's come in handy a few times where I've given other hikers water when a water source has failed and also when a filter got all gummed up.

    • @41degreesN12degreesE
      @41degreesN12degreesE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lack of water is the reason I haven't tried a desert hike yet. How much water do you carry?

  • @PikaSquish
    @PikaSquish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to carry around a powebank with solar panels that weighed over a pound! it was nice for multiday group trips but I usually do overnight solo backpacking. now I carry around a powerbank\handwarmer with way more capacity and it only weighs 200g. the solar power bank is the feele, it's been around for a while and I've seen it get recommend a lot for survival kits. the hand warmer is called ocoopa, it's a Chinese brand but it works great! it gets really warm and still leave you with enough power for your phone.

  • @ernststravoblofeld
    @ernststravoblofeld 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    If you roll stuff into long thin packages, and pack it vertically, everything is accessible.

  • @jasondundom1390
    @jasondundom1390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I learned to keep the heaver objects close to your back as possible, prevents the weight from pulling you back and straining muscles unnecessarily, also stops you from having to bend forward as a counterweight.

    • @paulp.l.4869
      @paulp.l.4869 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I tend to forget, but I believe depending on the size of your pack placing heavier objects at the top helps with weight distribution. Around shoulder height and up.
      It's worked for me.
      Keep the weight as close to your back, center of gravity, is definitely great advice.

    • @llamacannon1714
      @llamacannon1714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@paulp.l.4869 Close to the back, and in the middle of the lumbar region. From top to bottom in weight, 25%--50%--25% is my go to.

    • @paulp.l.4869
      @paulp.l.4869 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@llamacannon1714
      Absolutely correct.
      I definitely forgot to mention the heavier objects much be against your body, good catch.
      It's the same for a tool belt, put a measuring tape or hammer on your hip and the weight disappears.
      Put anything on those far out attachments and they feel abnormally Heavy.

  • @Gambeli02
    @Gambeli02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My big mistake was strapping stuff on the outside of the pack. It pulled my weight back.
    I learned and, now, the only thing outside is the tent. Everything else is properly weight distributed in the pack.

    • @altorins
      @altorins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I strap exactly 2 things on the outside of the pack the first aid kit and tent if it's small. Both can be adjusted in a way that doesn't shift the weight.

  • @chadbrooks9763
    @chadbrooks9763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    My 1st time ever we went in February (in Va) we were doing a 3 day trip. I took 3 pairs of jeans, shorts, underwear, thermals, and socks. I also was wearing insulated bibs and carhartt over warm clothes and thermals. We also had 12 cans of ravioli and a bunch of water bottles and a 0 degree oversized mummy bag made for car camping (no sleeping pad at all, I froze) a machete a small axe and a huge 1st aid kit. My buddy carried a 12(?) pound 4 person tent.. My pack weighted over 60 pounds. That was in 2008. Now my pack weighs 16 pounds

    • @jamesbrooks3664
      @jamesbrooks3664 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn that does not sound like fun lol

    • @fuggoff5277
      @fuggoff5277 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      BS 14LBS

    • @HerrFinsternis
      @HerrFinsternis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      LoL that's rough :') So many questions but the one thing I can't get over, were they really small cans? Who eats 4 cans of ravioli a day?

    • @chadbrooks9763
      @chadbrooks9763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HerrFinsternis I was 19 and was and still am a bottomless pit amd they were regular sized cans

    • @HerrFinsternis
      @HerrFinsternis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chadbrooks9763 ah yes, to be a bottomless pit 🤩 That stops being a thing when you get to be 27 😒

  • @jenniferstewarts4851
    @jenniferstewarts4851 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    packliner is one option, there are also "external shells" that you can get to put on over a backpack. Though even using external shells, having a small waterpoof container inside as well for a few key items, in case your pack gets dunked is always nice.
    medical kits, a bag with dry socks, spare tarp, things like that i rarely pack/packed in my ruck, those would go into the buttpack, that way i could drop the ruck, but still have some supplies on me (knife, multi-tool, first aid kit, tarp, water filter, dry socks, hygiene products, water bottle, canteen cup, light source, lighter, and sharpening stone.). Essentially things i might need right away, and then that might also very by season, adding or removing anti-contact gloves, extra hat, or such. i even usually to try and carry at least some foot/rations, be it energy bars or such in the buttpack/belt pouches... again, incase something happened and my ruck was inaccessable.
    the one thing that gets me is people not field stripping. Ok remember, the general rule of thumb is, what you carry in you are carrying out, don't leave garbage. So when they leave things int he cardboard boxes when packing, oh yes, those bars came in a cardboard box for 6 of them... did you need to bring the box? well these fuel tabs come in a nice cardboard box... yeah, wrap them up in plastic and store them inside the stove, leave the box. LOL.

  • @makattak88
    @makattak88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like to use a dry bag for my clothing along with a bag cover. Also when it comes to setting up in the rain, I like to have a quick-set tarp to place before I set.

  • @OurDee
    @OurDee ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The topics, thoughts, and theories carry over to moto-camping nicely. You have helped me lighten the load. Thank you.

  • @Pannemat
    @Pannemat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have learned to just pack EVERYTHING near the top of my bag.

  • @hyejin3385
    @hyejin3385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Don’t pack your fears” i learned this the hard way. I even use a huge bag maybe bigger than what i should be using. So i really hate looking at those photos of me when i backpacked. Not only it tired me out, i look stupid carrying it.

  • @AzraelThanatos
    @AzraelThanatos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd like to say that an extra light is a useful thing to have. I tend to have a headlamp and a smaller flashlight...the smaller one is one of the relatively tiny pen sized ones that slots into the loops of the map case I have. Far to many people don't get a waterproof map case, which is something invaluable to me in a lot of places because physical maps seem to be getting more and more fragile as several people switch to using their phones...which is a problem because it adds to all the needed things to keep it supplied that immediately become dead weight if the phone breaks during the trip.
    I've got a nice military surplus map case that I can strap onto my pack which has slots for pens or pencils that works for my penlight, a dry erase pen that can let me make notes over the map on the plastic, and some actual pens...for a while I actually carried a utility knife in their that fit the slots as well, and normally do for longer trips, but a few places that I go to don't like people getting knives out for dayhiking which I tend to end up doing more and more now. You can also put in several other things that you might need easy access to that are paper...such as permits and similar.
    I also carry a small, heavier duty notebook that lets me keep some notes on things, such as things I've looked up ahead of time on the area. I tend to keep things like police and ranger phone numbers along with other emergency details in it...I can also put down information on the trail as I go for handing on to rangers or to hand to other hikers heading the other direction for things, or numbers and addresses for people I may be talking to along the way if I want to...
    Another thing I've suggested is looking for some basic guidebooks for the areas you're going through for plants and animals. A physical copy if it's an area you aren't as familiar with. Most are rather easy to acquire for general areas, and you can, eventually, start leaving it behind as you learn about the area.
    But the biggest thing I see a lot of people starting out lacking is research. Info on the trail, local laws, animals, potential issues, and even things like trail closures along the way.

  • @hindsfeetonhighplaces
    @hindsfeetonhighplaces 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I keep a tree strap in my hip belt pockets. So the FIRST thing I do is hang my pack on the tree strap so I'm not having to bend down and put things on the ground. I also keep my tarp (I'm a hammocker) either on top or on an outside pocket. So if it's raining, I hang the tarp next to give me a place to work.

  • @dj-kq4fz
    @dj-kq4fz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Quit dropping rocks in my pack Dan, I subscribed already. I swear the same loadout gets heavier every trip. Thanks! Dave J

  • @kst357
    @kst357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We have a routine of stopping for lunch & coffee breaks so I pack the day's rations, stove, & water filter near the top of my pack. My 2P tent is just under 5 lbs & packs small so I secure it to the bottom straps of my pack. Weight distribution is also an important consideration. No one enjoys carrying a pack that is too top heavy.

  • @DonP_is_lostagain
    @DonP_is_lostagain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I actually bought a Nylofume pack liner to aid in cutting down on smells. But for years now I have used a trash bag. In fact, I even bought a cheap trash can from Walmart to put it in to load my gear in. Once loaded, I simply pull the bag out of the can and shove it into my pack. Works for most of my big packs. For my day packs, I use a smaller trash bag. They work like a charm to keep dry the stuff you want dry. Good advice all around Dan!

    • @weka6533
      @weka6533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s actually a really good idea

    • @DonP_is_lostagain
      @DonP_is_lostagain 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@weka6533 Thanks! I found it makes packing easier, simply because the trashcan is stiff and stand up. Unlike my packs. It is also rigid, so I can't overstuff, and find i pack more efficiently as well.

  • @michaelfoster-brown463
    @michaelfoster-brown463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First thing you need out of pack is not your shelter (depending on outside storage), but items needed during the day for example: lunch, waterproof jacket etc.

  • @justrusty
    @justrusty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    #1: Yep. I strap it to the outside now.
    #2: I used to do that. Now it is in the mesh pocket on the outside.
    #3: I have a single wall zpacks duplex, so this is N/A. But yeah, good advice.
    #4: Correct. I added a packliner.
    #5: I guess. I can find it easily but in 20 years I've only had to use it once (just recently) so it is a few things deep into the pack, but easily found. (But not TOO deep.)
    #6: I met some guys hiking in the Grand Canyon. Every one of them had a pair of pliers on their belts... but yeah, I've brought stuff with me (in the past) that I never used.
    I made all these mistakes at the beginning.

  • @elliottmcfadden6261
    @elliottmcfadden6261 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So put everything on top. Got it!

  • @lorens7837
    @lorens7837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your videos are always so interesting, entertaining, and informative. Thank you for producing them. I learn at least one really important thing every time I watch one.

  • @PICARDY610
    @PICARDY610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank You for making this so easy! Every year I would bring everything & the kitchen sink, & didn't use any of it. The thought of packing for a trip would lead to excessive amounts of Xanax. Now one & Done, no Dookey-ing around. You make it fun too as the great outdoors was intended. Danno the Manno!

  • @btrswt35
    @btrswt35 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The XL storage bags from the dollar tree are great for pack liners. They aren't super light weight but they are robust and are very durable.

  • @davidcarlson6145
    @davidcarlson6145 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome tips!!! Luv this vid, short and sweet with gr8 info as always

  • @damianwadsworth7603
    @damianwadsworth7603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude, thank you! Intuitively I would’ve put my tent and all first (me thinking it’s better because it’s the biggest) and then I totally would’ve rolled my rain fly up with my tent and then only realized the next day when I pull it out again😂such a life saver!

  • @blagsreport4763
    @blagsreport4763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great advice, filter usually lives on hip belt for me. LOL love the dynema pack liner, I'm still on the bin liner (garbage bag).

  • @danielkutcher5704
    @danielkutcher5704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have been a user of pack liners for years. It came in handy when using my ULA CDT for the first time on the Long Trail last fall. During a long rain, I noticed that I could see through the orange fabric and see the black pack liner on top of the pack. Assuming that coated pack fabric is 100% waterproof is not a good idea. Also, even though DCF fabric is 100% waterproof when new, the sewn-through seams are not, unless they have been waterproofed at the factory, or by the owner. Additionally, no fabric is immune to puncture or abrasion. ULA does not use DCF fabrics (structural membranes).

  • @bahjinelson3986
    @bahjinelson3986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    So I can leave the ax at home? That leaves more room for the chainsaw anyway. Still waiting for the 'Best Chainsaw for Ultralight Backpacking' video.

    • @Laura-jt8mf
      @Laura-jt8mf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know you're joking but should you ever need it, they make chainsaws that are just the chain part with handles on each end and you do the sawing. They work weirdly well? They're also like, $10

    • @PhoenixIsTrash
      @PhoenixIsTrash 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Call me a bushcrafter or old fashioned but I'll take an Two-Man Saw over a chainsaw when backpacking anyday.

    • @Andy-rp3ee
      @Andy-rp3ee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just get a shoulder pad and carry that stihl 462 ;)

    • @secretsquirrel6718
      @secretsquirrel6718 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pull saw

  • @joyglocker8318
    @joyglocker8318 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, that was very helpful

  • @christinenoelle7568
    @christinenoelle7568 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow another awesome video!!! You’re amazing 🤩

  • @benjaminthancock
    @benjaminthancock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dan, these edits and production quality have increased quite a bit. Really digging it. Thanks!

    • @DanBecker
      @DanBecker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! I can’t take all of the credit. My new cameraman and editor Gordon is amazing!

  • @BackcountryPilgrim
    @BackcountryPilgrim 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great suggestions Dan!

  • @chrismayers1898
    @chrismayers1898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Dan. Looking forward to the review on that Sea to Summit tent.

  • @sellark
    @sellark 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice tip on the damp rain fly!

  • @2laughandlaugh
    @2laughandlaugh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tent on top....poop paper in outside stretch pocket( learned that one the hard way).

  • @TomCashTV
    @TomCashTV ปีที่แล้ว

    Putting your shelter in on top is a _great_ idea.

  • @JillianCampsArizona
    @JillianCampsArizona 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, that rainstorm looked crazy. Love the backpack liner idea tho, real nice. Wouldn’t think to do that in a Arizona!

  • @SailingCorina
    @SailingCorina 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like this plan of packing but we have always been told to balance your pack. This causes the gear to not be in the order of importance. I'll give this a try.

  • @paulcritchley464
    @paulcritchley464 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So you get to your campsite and it is raining cats and dogs. You pitch your tent. Then you place the tent fly over the tent. Inside is wet. Most of the tents you recommend are pitched that way
    It is handy to know how to pitch a tent in the Rain without getting the inside wet. Those bucket floors hold water very well. It does take longer in inclement weather to pitch a tent
    Cheers

  • @thesheperd7567
    @thesheperd7567 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was military and the last thing that comes out is the sleep system. The last thing you want to keep pulling out to reach daily use items is the house.
    My system is this. Bivibag in to line the pack. Sleeping bag in stuff in style. On top have your warm sleeping gear bagged as one pack then roll down the bivibag and seal closed. On top of the sleep system can be spare clothing and lightweight shoes all sealed. Puffer jacket or thermal in a dry bag.
    Top flap pouch, snacks and daily use gear. Side pouches, cooking system and food.
    First aid kit attached to trouser belt with extras in main separate pouch attached to shoulder strap.
    The tent and roll mat attached to the outside either locked down on top under flap or on the front secured by locking straps.
    Now you can stop and access everything required, no need for the sleep system. The roll mat can be used to sit off the cold.
    When setting camp your tent is there ready to go. Once secured your spare clothes come out followed by the sleep system. Slip the lightweight shoes on and everything else remains packed and you know exactly where everything is.
    You have a choice of thermal sleeping clothes already in the sleeping bag and if not used push them down to the bottom to insulate free space.
    Packing up simply stuff the system straight into the pack. Put the dry gear on top, tent down, sit on mat, last brew and off you go.
    For treking my layers are wicking t-shirt and goretex jacket. Brew stop I slip the puffer jacket out and take the t-shirt off. Again into day treking routine gear in top flap with snacks, cooking system in side pouches and first aid on person and pack strap.
    Water goes where ever the containers allow.
    No need to pull out the sleeping system.

  • @five9eight
    @five9eight 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sleep system in a dry bag in first. Second is the food bag that is dry sack. Then I have a guide lid that is packed with waterproof pullouts. Usually goes inside unless winter camping and I need more room. The guide lid pullout include the following...Firstaid kit, poop kit, water kit, possible pouch, and kill kit. I can drop my pack and pull the guide lid and have everything I need. It has backpack straps on it as well.

  • @jamietetrault4517
    @jamietetrault4517 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im very particular on who i subscribe to. You have a lot of useful knowledge for a beginner backpacker. So thank you...

  • @duncanwhitcombe4392
    @duncanwhitcombe4392 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try doing a video on why one should keep packed what is not required around camp.
    As in the time it takes to in getting ready to hike when all the best is unpacked from the night before as opposed to only having out what you are using.

  • @christopherstudley9374
    @christopherstudley9374 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely my kinda people 😀
    Cheers !

  • @leerb44
    @leerb44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    But the veteran in me wants 4 different backup plans.

  • @RainyDayForge
    @RainyDayForge 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3rd tip is money! Never thought of doing that. Thanks Dan!

    • @DanBecker
      @DanBecker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sup buddy?! How are those knives doing?

    • @RainyDayForge
      @RainyDayForge 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DanBecker I'm hoping to ramp up production but be efficient, which is difficult. GGG has them on their online store but my ability to supply them has been a challenge. I have a few ready to ship out to them right now. I'm glad that you're still producing high quality content!

  • @TransylvanianHikerEN
    @TransylvanianHikerEN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dan, I agree with all of these, except the first one. There's lots of gear you need to access faster than your tent, some of which you also mentioned. Additionally: bear spray (+around where I live also something against shepherd dogs), phone, satellite communication, rain jacket, rain pants, hand sanitizer (for after no. 1), poop kit, puffy jacket (for breaks), snacks, water, sit pad / chair (for breaks).
    Can you pack so all of these are easily accessible and your shelter is still on top / on the outside? I can't.

    • @EpwnaExeter
      @EpwnaExeter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It definitely depends on how you place it in the bag/do you have outer pockets. My tent is under my food bag until after lunch then it's on top so it's easy access at camp. I have an outer pocket on the front of my pack for rain jacket/puffy depending on weather and my sandals for water crossings/camp. My snacks and water filter are either on my hip belt or the brain with my first aid kit.
      Edit to add: bear spray always on shoulder strap ways access.

    • @TransylvanianHikerEN
      @TransylvanianHikerEN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@EpwnaExeter I agree, the number and size of outer / hip pockets can make a big difference.
      Another question is how heavy the shelter is compared to other items. I have an extreme experience of my friend falling right in front of me because the tent was on top and pulled him down due to the bad balance of the whole backpack. It was huge luck that he walked away without injuries. All I'm saying is be aware and don't put heavy things on top, it's very dangerous.

    • @phamers55
      @phamers55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I can access my backpack from the bottom, so no need to put the tent on top.

    • @TransylvanianHikerEN
      @TransylvanianHikerEN 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@phamers55 Does the sleeping bag / quilt also go on the bottom as usual, or somewhere else?

    • @phamers55
      @phamers55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TransylvanianHikerEN tent first then sleeping bag and sleeping pad.

  • @OldNavajoTricks
    @OldNavajoTricks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    FAK lives in a hip pouch secured to my left shoulder strap with my brew kit, two things I need in a hurry right at hand :-D

  • @KathysOutdoorAdventures
    @KathysOutdoorAdventures 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question: Thanks for the help, Dan! Where did you get the click for your backpack to hold the BeFree on the front?

  • @Trac3r.
    @Trac3r. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I point out in a military point of view we use a system it’s not just a backpack it’s also a system you go through it as you go through it. So what I mean is your kit now won’t be the same as ten years in experience wise. Case in point learning curves to not you gotta show some self indulgence mixed with need and common working of it. So what good is when you get to a place drop ya pack put ya knife and axe belt on go wander off and ya first aid kits in the pack…? So tourniquet set on you we wear smocks so that’s where if ya not got webbing a tourniquet and field dressing with ya Mylar blanket you gotta do the supporting leg work to your kit other than get it bag it :) be safe guys this guy knows his stuff you’re in good hands listening to him

  • @Z0MB13Redfield
    @Z0MB13Redfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good vid Dan

  • @evankollmann2663
    @evankollmann2663 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dan, please drop the edc video! I'm interested and will definitely watch it I promise!

  • @alexdeadeye6905
    @alexdeadeye6905 ปีที่แล้ว

    dont forget to pack the dry sausage, what bear grill taught us is that its protein, and they are good for the morale! :D

  • @amoore185am
    @amoore185am 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Dan love your videos I am going on my first trip soon would like to get with you on pointers

  • @AntwonDaBusiness
    @AntwonDaBusiness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Eh…I agree with packing order to an extent but you actually want to pack heavier items in the center of the pack for weight distribution reasons. Having the heaviest items all at the top will make your pack floppy and having the heaviest items at the bottom hurt your lower back. Balance is key. I always pack my shelter in the middle along with food. Quick grab items like first aid, toiletries, and layers I keep towards the top or outside packets.

  • @juardioc
    @juardioc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My backpack has a side access for my gear in the bottom of my backpack and also I have a rain waterproof cover for my whole backpack.

  • @metricwrencher8702
    @metricwrencher8702 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dan,
    My 35L has a bottom opening. It may not be as ultralight as ypur gear, but the pack only weighs 1.75 lbs empty

  • @chadfontaine2717
    @chadfontaine2717 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha... I hate getting passed on a trail by someone wearing jeans and is carrying all their crap wrapped in a dry-cleaner bag in their arms. While I lug everything including a kitchen sink on my back and hate life. So ya... I pack my fears. Backups, spare parts, repair kits, enough TP for all trail users that weekend combined, etc. Really cutting back this year. ...and now I'll have a blow out on my pack where I really could have used that spare zip-tie ;)

  • @etherealbolweevil6268
    @etherealbolweevil6268 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good fear stuff, I find - a) needle nose mini mole grips, 16 people depended on them to get the stove working again and again; b) Swiss army knife, the same 16 people depended on it to open food tins, again and again (and wine bottles, repairing land rovers etc. etc. when the mole grips have been left behind); c) eye dropper bottle, the only way a different group of 16 was able to feed an orphaned baby monkey; d) cigarette lighter, dismantled for parts to (again) get the stove working for a group of 16 again and again. I get accused of having Hermoines magic bag, but I just carry proven essentials.

    • @phild8095
      @phild8095 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Similar, in my 40's I was in a church adult singles group and we would group car camp 3-5 times a year. I't much easier filling a car with the big air pump, the knife, extra batteries, the 30x40 foot tarp, 100 feet of 1/4" rope, pliers, extra tent pegs, lighter fluid....
      But that time we were on Cape Cod when hurricane Bertha came up the coast was when I really wow'ed em.

  • @IdRatherBeHiking
    @IdRatherBeHiking 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dan you should try out the pretty much unknown tent I just reviewed on my channel, super light, durable, looks great and cheap.

  • @kewsoner7924
    @kewsoner7924 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I pack one thing by fear, it's an extremely brigth flash light 1000 lm flood light, I once got stock in extreme fog while walking along a Ridgeline, we could barely see our feets while walking on the edge on the cliffs. We ended up hoonking up against a cliffside for hours under a tarp, and then it turned in to heavy, heavy rain. If we had extremely bright light we wouldn't had been in that situation. So now I always hike with a brigth red bike light on the back of my backpack and a light that can be attached to the front on my backpack, that acts like a flood light.
    Edit: the lamp I use is a sigma, forgot the model, its packed away. With a separate battery, so you have a small lamp with a wire going in to your backpack, its originally a bike lamp, but it works great for me. At the same time you can mount it on a tree and it will light up the whole campside. But it comes with a pretty heavy wiegth penalty.

  • @peterzebot9863
    @peterzebot9863 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first 3 layers are a sixer of beer.

  • @TheTwispAngler
    @TheTwispAngler 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi again. The giant garbage bag gets modified and it goes on the outside of your pack. You don't want your backpack even wet now. But thanks -- this video is great now. : )

  • @ellieskinner4081
    @ellieskinner4081 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love this song 🙈🙉

  • @zulvalor7266
    @zulvalor7266 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use my sleeping bag liner as my pack liner

  • @boredandagitated
    @boredandagitated ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you do with tents like the durstin x-mid 2 or GG The Two to keep the inside dry when packing it back up?

  • @codymcgonagill5392
    @codymcgonagill5392 ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess I pack my grandfather's fears he said never go into the woods without a knife and a axe of some sort mirror for signaling. Lol

  • @alexxhamilton
    @alexxhamilton 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching this on the John

  • @johneason6540
    @johneason6540 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    DB, I don't understand putting a wet and muddy tent inside a pack, I always strap it on the outside.

  • @techrical
    @techrical 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you experience any rain in the Alto? I've read in several places they do a terrible job keeping water out. Interested what your experience was.

    • @DanBecker
      @DanBecker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haven’t had any rain while I’ve used it yet. So I can report on that when I do. Sorry!!

  • @Kradle
    @Kradle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Growing up hiking and camping we always had 1 guy overpack way too much weight. Dude would carry like 90lb bags into the wilderness with us. One year he brought a fake snake with him to try and prank us. And we wondered why his back was so heavy...

  • @joeso8114
    @joeso8114 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, I have been better with not packing my fears. But I do still bring two lights. Hey, tell the person holding the camera to stand still or better yet use a tripod. Love the video but very hard to watch moving around that much.

  • @mr.timezone1336
    @mr.timezone1336 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish Backcountry sold little Dan Becker’s lol I’d carry one in my pack to guide me through my trip

  • @maximusjoseppi5904
    @maximusjoseppi5904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Definitely don't buy the sea to summit telos tr2.. I just did a review of it. Important design flaws that contribute to bad condensation and leaking issues that will get you wet.

  • @philiphenderson9966
    @philiphenderson9966 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    totally off topic what is the background music? It sounds a bit like the intro to Love spreads by the Stone Roses?

  • @williamcoles3443
    @williamcoles3443 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pack liners are good bit my pack has a big zip down the front and another down the bottom so I can get anything at any time bit I can't do that with a liner

  • @TheNoobHiker
    @TheNoobHiker 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just packed all 52 lbs of my fears......tough 4 days on the trail.

  • @robertalonzo5725
    @robertalonzo5725 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like that last one, that’s me.

  • @kimdavis5128
    @kimdavis5128 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a go to online site for selling used gear?

  • @SamwiseOutdoors
    @SamwiseOutdoors 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Anybody else use external covers on their backpacks for rain protection, and then learn that all they do is trap water up against your pack?

  • @ERUtheWINDRIDER
    @ERUtheWINDRIDER 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol, Dan I think you misslead you audience about the tent, I(and not just me) consider that it is better to pack, considering what you will need more often or more urgent so the tent will be used only once in a day and you will not be in a hurry, but your layers are usually necessary multiple times a day so is some food and water.

    • @DanBecker
      @DanBecker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good thoughts! I actually said to put the tent as close to the top of your bag as you can. Insinuating that there’s obviously other items you’ll need as well throughout the day. But I could’ve explained that a bit better.

  • @lindatisue733
    @lindatisue733 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great points, the learning curve for packing an be pretty steep.
    How about a video about leaving no trace in list form? Saw a school group using dish soap and dumping the water in a lake. Even in eco-conscious Sweden, people don't use poop holes and leave used paper in the forest.

  • @tfisher808
    @tfisher808 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    guilty of #1 and #4

  • @bobdole514
    @bobdole514 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm more worried about staying safe and protection but I'm not sure if a gun is necessary to bring I'm planning on hiking the Appalachian Trail in March and not sure if I should bring a sidearm to stay safe what are your thoughts

    • @phild8095
      @phild8095 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many states will not honor other states carry permits on the east coast. I would exercise caution, especially when coming into town to resupply. You could end up with big legal problems. And you might freak out other hikers and get reported. And if you decide it is too heavy and want to drop it off or mail it home then you have to find an FFL to ship it to yourself. If you are healthy enough to hike the AT you are not likely a "target" type person compared to a fat 50 year old in a Wal Mart parking lot at night. Know what I mean?
      Several have done vids and written about this subject. You are more likely to need a carry in most hometowns than most of the AT. This put out by the The Appalachian Trail Conservancy "Around 3 million people hike a portion of the trail every year. On average, there has been one murder every four years since 1974."
      I'd bring extra wool socks, an extra lighter and extra shoelaces and still not equal the weight of most handguns.

  • @Brettmlyons
    @Brettmlyons 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mabye do a video on the things you should have in a IFAK? If you haven't I dono.

  • @davidson_oldbull_sectionhiker
    @davidson_oldbull_sectionhiker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah yes, we just love our fears. I never run out of food, in fact I could usually stay out an extra 3 days. I am getting better. Take Care