I think the Duttons will sell the ranch to Rainwater for $1, thus eliminating the tax threat on the property. Rainwater transfers ownership to Tate, who is, of course, a member of the tribe. It fulfills the prophecy and saves the ranch at the same time.
@BlessYourHeart254 The property taxes aren't the problem. The ranch was able to keep up with the property taxes. The problem they suddenly have is the income tax (otherwise known as the Death Tax) as the property passes through Probate. The ranch was set up in a Trust to protect it from developers and condemnation via eminent domain. That didn't protect it from the Death Tax.
After last night’s episode, I’m thinking they may do another season. They have not even begun to wrap up various story lines. And they keep referring to the “season finale” not the series finale. There was nothing of interest in what was to be the second to last episode. It was a Taylor Sherridan riding commercial. Right up until Kayce was in the morgue with John’s corpse, I was expecting John to pop up at the end saying “It was all a trap for the bad guys”.
If not for the prophesy, I also love the idea of selling the ranch to Rip for one dollar. And then, in a move of genius, he changes his name to Rip Dutton.
They did say that Dabney Coleman's John Dutton (Costner's dad) did live till he was 90 so the math does work...that would put him born in the 1923-ish range, since he died in a Yellowstone flashback (but not a way-back, flashback having Josh Lucas playing John Dutton III)
@@mjay3734thats what I said, lol or was trying to say...that the flashback wasn't a way back flashback because it didn't have Josh Lucas playing John Dutton III
@@mjay3734 Asssuming that John Dabney Dutton is born in 1923 and John John Costner Dutton is born in 1955(Costner's birth year) that would've made Dabney about 32 when he had his first kid. Kayce the youngest of Costner's Dutton's kids born in 1984 when Costner's Dutton was 29. The timelines matchup. And Spotted Eagle saying in 7 generations, he has just talking in theoreticals. It doesn't matter if it was really 6 or 7 generations to rise up, you're just getting into semantics if people worry about that.
I still think theres gonna be a Season 6.... After each episode they keep saying the "Season Finale" instead of "Series Finale" And by the way the Baby that Monica loss was named John Duton as well.
Well… I don’t think it ends at the end of this season, for one thing. They just ran commercial break and said season ending not series ending. They could’ve easily changed that in post production before going on the air, knowing that Kevin wasn’t coming back. Based on that, I tend to believe we have another season coming after this. So that season will resolve the seven generations issue, if this season does not.
I don’t think Sheridan had this thought out from the beginning. He didn’t know Costner was going to quit mid season 5. I think he wanted to keep writing until it wasn’t popular anymore and that didn’t look like it was happening anytime soon. So Sheridan has some awesome writers in his corners. BUT he is one ARROGANT man. God I can’t even look at him.
My first thought at the end of the latest episode was they’d sell it to Rain Water and that’s why Kayce told Beth give him a day to see if that could work. I think Beth and Kayce were on the same page at that point. The whole question about tax was a dead give away for me at least lol.
I remember that part of 1883 and keep that nugget with me that Tate’s the 7th generation connection from Broken Rock and Dutton Family Legacy. Along with the opening voiceover Elsa in 1923 only one of brother will carry the family thru the depression and hell of the 20th century while showing Spencer. Thought Alex is pregnant and her family will give her money for voyage that will save the ranch from the bank.
@@lennonrispy3138 I think u meant Jack and his wife are the *grandparents* of Costner. To your point tho, the lineage can't run thru Spencer unless he had some unknown kid the show didn't tell us about well before going off to war (bc then Tate would only be gen6).
Billy, it's Johnny, you and Addison's loyal viewer from up north. I still think the generations have to be accounted for with Spencer & Alex being John's grandparents.
7 generations: James (1) and Margaret had John (2). John and Emma had Jack (3). Jack and Elizabeth had John II (4) (Dabney Coleman's character). John II and ? had John III (5) (Costner). John III and Evelyn had Kayce (6). Kayce and Monica had Tate (7).
I AGREE 100% How can you have 2 "John Dutton Sr's"? Where is John Dutton Jr.? There is John Dutton I, John Dutton II, and John Dutton III. John Dutton II is SPENCERS son, named after his brother. Kacey's and Monica's baby was named John Dutton IV. You don't have to have a direct father/son line.Tate is the 6th Generation and the Crow get the land back WITH the 7th. Not AFTER the 7th. "In 7 generations my people will rise up and take it back." Spotted Eagle say "IN" not "AFTER".
I hate Taylor Sheridan for ending this show. By the way, he must be on steroids to look as ripped as he does in this last episode. He cannot look like this unless he is in a gym 24/7. Come on.
But is it really over? Reports are Beth, rip, and casey(the actors) have all said they are willing to continue the show and if you notice with the last two episodes it doesn't say, only one more episode until the series finale, it keeps say 1 more episode until the SEASON finale. We may be in for a surprise season.
I really don't want to dig out my spreadsheet to relitigate this. But Dabney Coleman died when he was 90 per the conversation with his son JD III (Costner). Since it was Costner in the scene and not the "younger" John Dutton, that means his death happens in the early 2000s. Which means he was born in the late 20's. Which means his father has to be an adult in the 1920s. In order for Spencer to spawn Dabney, that screws up the generations and Tate ends up only 6thg. Even Lynelle refers to the ranch in the meeting with M/E as the Yellowstone being "a 7 generation ranch". So, it HAS to run through John I, and then Jack. No other way it works with the calendar and the math.
Tate is the 6th Generation and the Crow get the land back WITH the 7th. Not AFTER the 7th. "In 7 generations my people will rise up and take it back." Spotted Eagle say "IN" not "AFTER".
I think the Ranch will go to Tate, thus fulfilling the prophecy and keeping the Ranch in possession of the Dutton family at the same time. I hope there is a season 6. I love Yellowstone
I just have a hunch it's going to Rip. He's been in the background keeping to his own, John saw him as a son and that's all he cared about and he's not tempted by greed, he's just as protective of the place too. There's this focus on all those cowboys getting the warning to look for new work, but they'd stick around if Rip or Kayce run the ranch. Kayce made it clear he wants out after looking at the gravestones, giving the ranch to Rip makes sense as a pleasant surprise, but it could also play along with the idea of the tribe fulfilling their prophecy. I could see the series having potential with Rip's generation getting a story
You can't just give the ranch to Rip without avoiding Federal Estate Taxes, that's what the whole problem is. Somehow maybe they can donate it to the Indians and work a deal where the cowboys can stay and wok the ranch. The tribe would have to be set up as charity for this to work and there may have to be some other issues to avoid the Estate Tax, which is about 40% on value over 13.5 million. And you can't sell it to someone for a dollar and claim to the IRS you only owe 40 cents.
Tate inherited the ranch when John died. He left it to Tate in his will and Kayce is executor because Tate is a minor. It’ll likely be sold to the reservation. I don’t think it matters if it happens in 6 or 7 generations, the Ranch isn’t profitable enough to keep it in the family. All I care about is when is Rip and Beth make creepy Jamie pay for everything
It will be given to the reservation not sold. Jamie will be taken to the train station. Beth and Rip will move to Italy and Kacey's family will stay on in the home they are in now but will not have anything to do with ranch.
John dutton the 3rds dad was 90 years old when he died and his dad was Spencer dutton from 1923 who was raised by Jake dutton his uncle because James got shot and died in a flash back in 1883
i had the same theory about the prophecy from 1883 that Tate would be the 7th generation being half native american so the land would go back to the native americans threw Tate
Matt McConaughey has to enter somewhere.Either another prequel or flashbacks. Maybe there is a missing generation. I think there is another season even if only a few episodes. This last episode where Jamie has a new plan to defend himself seemed like something that will continue the storyline for at least a few more episodes.
I think you are correct, i think it will go to Tate, who is both a Dutton and a member of the tribe, thus uniting the people against the government who has always treated the citizens as sheep. The first Generation starts with whoever settled the land, the second generation is the family of those who did the settling, you don't start at 0, you start with 1.
It ends two ways: 1. Duttons sell the ranch to the tribe for $1. Rainwater lets the Duttons live on it for as long as they need to. 2. Season 5 part 2 was "all a dream" a "what if" John Dutton was murdered. John wakes up in bed at the end of the episode and knows what he needs to do to save his land and launches his plan for season 6.
I caught that conversation and didn't even watch Yellowstone..that much..But, I feel that after all the bloodshed and wacked out killings and hiding to save land...that the last episode will be that Yellowstone will belong to those who owned it long before and all of that fighting would have been for nothing. They were just folks running a ranch. The land is what matters not what you put on it and they lost in in trying to save it. I just hope the they don't make it into a casino. But, the Duttons will walk off that ranch. What a waste they made.
The end seems shoehorned. Beth didn't know that if they sold the ranch for $1 the tax burden would disappear (it wouldn't, by the way)? She is supposed to be brilliant. It's like the writer(s) have just given up and ready for it to be over so they can concentrate on LandMan.
For Tate to be gen7, as has been indicated repeatedly throughout Yellowstone in various ways, the lineage has to go thru John and Jack, not Spencer. Also, the speculation here of a possible generation between Jack and Dabney Coleman doesn't fit with that, or work timewise.
i watched Costner's Horizon. IF that was the true reason for all this off screen drama, well let me tell you (in my opinion) it wasn't worth it. I don't begrudge Costner's passion for wanting to do it, I just think the final product he made wasn't that good. I hope the final episode is a little longer in run time. let's see what happens.
I was thinking the same exact thing. Unfortunately I think John jr wife after the miscarriage she can’t have anymore kids. Another theory I was thinking of is Spencer starts his own ranch and Matthew McConaughey future character is a descendent of Spencer and comes to save or run the Yellowstone just like Harrison’s Ford character after John and his wife died
@@Rockwall69 Yeah, the John Dutton name isn't automatically given only from father to son. The first John Dutton named his son Jack. Jack can be a non formal name for John but it doesn't appear to be so here.
I mean I don't think it's that big of a mystery. The ranch obviously goes to tate if they can manage to save it, Kasey and Rainwater already have a deal/bond there, and I think Beth would rather see the ranch go to rainwater anyway, it'd keep it in both of their families since Tate is a descendent of both. And even if tate is the 6th generation, if HE gets down the road and meets someone (maybe even a girl in the res?) that kinda takes care of that, their kid would be the 7th generation and it would go back to the tribe. After all, none of the remaining duttons really want the ranch and the shit that comes with it. Beth wants out, Jaimie is probably going to either die or go to jail or something, and that leaves Kasey. It's all kinda obvious lol.
Everyone is guessing it’ll go back to the reservation. Maybe that’s to obvious. What if it’s sold to Travis for a $1.00…..Beth and Rip “run” the ranch. Beth has been intrigued how the 6666 ranch stays profitable -she uses this knowledge to make Yellowstone profitable. Her and Rip eventually take it back. Then we get the series of Beth and Rip 🙏
James Dutton is the 2nd Great-grandfather of John Dutton III (Costner). Just count on your fingers: John Dutton II (Dabny Coleman- father), Jack Dutton (grandfather), John Dutton I or Spencer Dutton (great-grandfather) James Dutton 2nd great-grandfather).
Tate is the 6th Generation and the Crow get the land back WITH the 7th. Not AFTER the 7th. "In 7 generations my people will rise up and take it back." Spotted Eagle say "IN" not "AFTER".
The 7th generation theory only works if john Dutton the third is the great grand son of john Dutton , but we don't know that for certain . For all we know Spencer will name his son after his older bother who looked out for him after their mother died till Jacob and Cara arrived and if that's the case its not seven generations. with the Dutton family tree incomplete we don't know.
How can you have 2 "John Dutton Sr's"? Where is John Dutton Jr.? There is John Dutton I, John Dutton II, and John Dutton III. John Dutton II is SPENCERS son, named after his brother. Kacey's and Monica's baby was named John Dutton IV. You don't have to have a direct father/son line. Tate is the 6th Generation and the Crow get the land back WITH the 7th. Not AFTER the 7th. "In 7 generations my people will rise up and take it back." Spotted Eagle say "IN" not "AFTER".
First we must look at the prophecy in seven generation , when saying this to some one you don't normally count the person who you said it to as the first generation ( you don't count 0 when measuring) this would make Tate 5th gen if he is Spencer's son ( this has not been confirmed) if he is Jacks son it would make him the 6th gen. Now lets look at Tate he is 50 percent crow and raised in their ways him taking over the ranch could in its own complete the prophecy . Their are to many unknowns to speculate at is my point
Spencer and John the 1st (John I) were brothers in 1883. John was the little brother of Elsa on the wagon train. Tim McGraw and Faith had Spencer once they settled on Yellowstone. Then John and his wife Emma had Jack. Then Jack had John the 2nd and John the 2nd then had John the 3rd (Kevin Costner) John Jack John John Kayce Tate
Why are they facing the death tax. When its in a trust. How come they didnt face the death tax before when like John SR died and past it to Kevin Costners character john dutton. Wouldnt they had gone bankrupt then from the same taxes their facing now.
It needs to be given to Tate. He is 7 gen and also half native american. So are kinda giving it back to tge Natives. Then they can do a spin off with Tate about 10 years from now.
Tate is already the beneficiary of the Yellowstone. John willed it to Tate. But bc Tate isn't old enough Kasey will make the decision of what Tate wants to do bc Tate doesn't want the land. It will be given to the reservation and as Rainwater told Beth kept pristine like her father,John wanted it to be kept.
Tell you what, I won’t be buying part 2 of season 5..So far they have been depressing, Kayce acted like an idiot putting a gun to that little girls head, killing off Colby, I’ll be reading online how it all ends…good job Sheridan…not.
Sunday episode was advertised as devastating but I found most times it to be rather crude! Most of all it was unnecessary for the poker game! Ten minutes for Kayce to give Beth the path to save the Ranch!
I think the Duttons will sell the ranch to Rainwater for $1, thus eliminating the tax threat on the property. Rainwater transfers ownership to Tate, who is, of course, a member of the tribe. It fulfills the prophecy and saves the ranch at the same time.
My thoughts as well!
Of course, in most states, property tax is based on assessed value, not just what you paid for it…
Yep, I was thinking the same thing, when Kasey was asking Beth about her car.
@BlessYourHeart254 The property taxes aren't the problem. The ranch was able to keep up with the property taxes. The problem they suddenly have is the income tax (otherwise known as the Death Tax) as the property passes through Probate. The ranch was set up in a Trust to protect it from developers and condemnation via eminent domain. That didn't protect it from the Death Tax.
Yep! And Taylor will parade around showing off again too!
The fact that the ranch is a graveyard should stop any attempt to seize the land
That’s only a portion of the land
@@IDOLIZEDTHIS are you sure I’ve read otherwise
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That’s less than 1 acre and anit the ranch like 200k acre
After last night’s episode, I’m thinking they may do another season. They have not even begun to wrap up various story lines. And they keep referring to the “season finale” not the series finale. There was nothing of interest in what was to be the second to last episode. It was a Taylor Sherridan riding commercial. Right up until Kayce was in the morgue with John’s corpse, I was expecting John to pop up at the end saying “It was all a trap for the bad guys”.
They are. The next episode is the season finale, not the series finale. There is season 6 being filmed or just recently wrapped
How do you think Yellowstone ends? Wild theories accepted (and encouraged).
I think there will be a 6th season.
Tate is sold the land, reservation gives them the permission to live there and they were originally granted permission to hunt.
If not for the prophesy, I also love the idea of selling the ranch to Rip for one dollar. And then, in a move of genius, he changes his name to Rip Dutton.
They did say that Dabney Coleman's John Dutton (Costner's dad) did live till he was 90 so the math does work...that would put him born in the 1923-ish range, since he died in a Yellowstone flashback (but not a way-back, flashback having Josh Lucas playing John Dutton III)
I just watched the flashback. Gentle correction: it was not Josh Lucas. It was Costner.
@@mjay3734thats what I said, lol or was trying to say...that the flashback wasn't a way back flashback because it didn't have Josh Lucas playing John Dutton III
@@mjay3734 Asssuming that John Dabney Dutton is born in 1923 and John John Costner Dutton is born in 1955(Costner's birth year) that would've made Dabney about 32 when he had his first kid. Kayce the youngest of Costner's Dutton's kids born in 1984 when Costner's Dutton was 29. The timelines matchup.
And Spotted Eagle saying in 7 generations, he has just talking in theoreticals. It doesn't matter if it was really 6 or 7 generations to rise up, you're just getting into semantics if people worry about that.
Johns dad is Spencer duttons son
@@boxerjp8276 That's who my money's on too 100%
I still think theres gonna be a Season 6.... After each episode they keep saying the "Season Finale" instead of "Series Finale"
And by the way the Baby that Monica loss was named John Duton as well.
Well… I don’t think it ends at the end of this season, for one thing. They just ran commercial break and said season ending not series ending. They could’ve easily changed that in post production before going on the air, knowing that Kevin wasn’t coming back. Based on that, I tend to believe we have another season coming after this. So that season will resolve the seven generations issue, if this season does not.
I caught that also!
i think it will be the end because there is rumors of a Beth and Rip spinoff
I don’t think Sheridan had this thought out from the beginning. He didn’t know Costner was going to quit mid season 5. I think he wanted to keep writing until it wasn’t popular anymore and that didn’t look like it was happening anytime soon. So Sheridan has some awesome writers in his corners. BUT he is one ARROGANT man. God I can’t even look at him.
My first thought at the end of the latest episode was they’d sell it to Rain Water and that’s why Kayce told Beth give him a day to see if that could work. I think Beth and Kayce were on the same page at that point. The whole question about tax was a dead give away for me at least lol.
I remember that part of 1883 and keep that nugget with me that Tate’s the 7th generation connection from Broken Rock and Dutton Family Legacy. Along with the opening voiceover Elsa in 1923 only one of brother will carry the family thru the depression and hell of the 20th century while showing Spencer. Thought Alex is pregnant and her family will give her money for voyage that will save the ranch from the bank.
Spencer & Alex aren’t John’s Great Grandparents though. Spencer saves the ranch but it’s Jack and his wife who are Great Grandparents of John Dutton
@@lennonrispy3138 I think u meant Jack and his wife are the *grandparents* of Costner. To your point tho, the lineage can't run thru Spencer unless he had some unknown kid the show didn't tell us about well before going off to war (bc then Tate would only be gen6).
They probably killed off Colby because the actor has another role waiting for him
Billy, it's Johnny, you and Addison's loyal viewer from up north. I still think the generations have to be accounted for with Spencer & Alex being John's grandparents.
Yeah 100% correct.. Spencer is the dad of Johns 3rds dad. Spencer named his son John after his brother John JR Who died in 1923
7 generations: James (1) and Margaret had John (2). John and Emma had Jack (3). Jack and Elizabeth had John II (4) (Dabney Coleman's character). John II and ? had John III (5) (Costner). John III and Evelyn had Kayce (6). Kayce and Monica had Tate (7).
@ THAT makes sense. And why focus so hard on Spencer & Alex and not so much on his brother if Spencer is not the grandfather.
@@PredemptionSpencer saves the Ranch, but it’s Jack and his wife that continues the Dutton name. They are John’s Great Grandparents
I AGREE 100% How can you have 2 "John Dutton Sr's"? Where is John Dutton Jr.? There is John Dutton I, John Dutton II, and John Dutton III. John Dutton II is SPENCERS son, named after his brother. Kacey's and Monica's baby was named John Dutton IV. You don't have to have a direct father/son line.Tate is the 6th Generation and the Crow get the land back WITH the 7th. Not AFTER the 7th. "In 7 generations my people will rise up and take it back." Spotted Eagle say "IN" not "AFTER".
The Indians must get the ranch in the end
Give it the People to stop the line going through the Rez! Don’t forget Kayce made a counsel with MO to get things going for Monica’s people!
I hate Taylor Sheridan for ending this show. By the way, he must be on steroids to look as ripped as he does in this last episode. He cannot look like this unless he is in a gym 24/7. Come on.
But is it really over? Reports are Beth, rip, and casey(the actors) have all said they are willing to continue the show and if you notice with the last two episodes it doesn't say, only one more episode until the series finale, it keeps say 1 more episode until the SEASON finale. We may be in for a surprise season.
We thought same thing
It amazes me how so many people are mad about all of this 🙄
I really don't want to dig out my spreadsheet to relitigate this. But Dabney Coleman died when he was 90 per the conversation with his son JD III (Costner). Since it was Costner in the scene and not the "younger" John Dutton, that means his death happens in the early 2000s. Which means he was born in the late 20's. Which means his father has to be an adult in the 1920s. In order for Spencer to spawn Dabney, that screws up the generations and Tate ends up only 6thg. Even Lynelle refers to the ranch in the meeting with M/E as the Yellowstone being "a 7 generation ranch". So, it HAS to run through John I, and then Jack. No other way it works with the calendar and the math.
Tate is the 6th Generation and the Crow get the land back WITH the 7th. Not AFTER the 7th. "In 7 generations my people will rise up and take it back." Spotted Eagle say "IN" not "AFTER".
Did anyone catch Beth's statement in the previews? I will avenge you she says to her dad's casket. How if the show is off?
Funeral in the beginning of the episode and then she kills him?
Feels like taylor sharidan always planned this ending but with costners departure he is seemingly rushing it
Yea that’s what I was thinking
I think the Ranch will go to Tate, thus fulfilling the prophecy and keeping the Ranch in possession of the Dutton family at the same time. I hope there is a season 6. I love Yellowstone
I just have a hunch it's going to Rip. He's been in the background keeping to his own, John saw him as a son and that's all he cared about and he's not tempted by greed, he's just as protective of the place too. There's this focus on all those cowboys getting the warning to look for new work, but they'd stick around if Rip or Kayce run the ranch. Kayce made it clear he wants out after looking at the gravestones, giving the ranch to Rip makes sense as a pleasant surprise, but it could also play along with the idea of the tribe fulfilling their prophecy. I could see the series having potential with Rip's generation getting a story
You can't just give the ranch to Rip without avoiding Federal Estate Taxes, that's what the whole problem is. Somehow maybe they can donate it to the Indians and work a deal where the cowboys can stay and wok the ranch. The tribe would have to be set up as charity for this to work and there may have to be some other issues to avoid the Estate Tax, which is about 40% on value over 13.5 million. And you can't sell it to someone for a dollar and claim to the IRS you only owe 40 cents.
Tate inherited the ranch when John died. He left it to Tate in his will and Kayce is executor because Tate is a minor. It’ll likely be sold to the reservation. I don’t think it matters if it happens in 6 or 7 generations, the Ranch isn’t profitable enough to keep it in the family. All I care about is when is Rip and Beth make creepy Jamie pay for everything
It will be given to the reservation not sold. Jamie will be taken to the train station. Beth and Rip will move to Italy and Kacey's family will stay on in the home they are in now but will not have anything to do with ranch.
John dutton the 3rds dad was 90 years old when he died and his dad was Spencer dutton from 1923 who was raised by Jake dutton his uncle because James got shot and died in a flash back in 1883
Its not confirmed that Jack is John's grandfather. His wife already miscarried a child and it was teased Alex was pregnant at the end of the season
In seven generations of Spotted Eagle’s family. He’s an old man which would math out
i had the same theory about the prophecy from 1883 that Tate would be the 7th generation being half native american so the land would go back to the native americans threw Tate
He's pretty big now, I doubt you could throw him very far.
Matt McConaughey has to enter somewhere.Either another prequel or flashbacks. Maybe there is a missing generation. I think there is another season even if only a few episodes. This last episode where Jamie has a new plan to defend himself seemed like something that will continue the storyline for at least a few more episodes.
Graham Greene! He was great on The Red Green Show!
Was Cool on Tulsa King too!
I think you are correct, i think it will go to Tate, who is both a Dutton and a member of the tribe, thus uniting the people against the government who has always treated the citizens as sheep. The first Generation starts with whoever settled the land, the second generation is the family of those who did the settling, you don't start at 0, you start with 1.
There are 2 episodes left right ?
One more
No. One more episode! The Yellowstone will go back to the reservation.
It ends two ways:
1. Duttons sell the ranch to the tribe for $1. Rainwater lets the Duttons live on it for as long as they need to.
2. Season 5 part 2 was "all a dream" a "what if" John Dutton was murdered. John wakes up in bed at the end of the episode and knows what he needs to do to save his land and launches his plan for season 6.
I caught that conversation and didn't even watch Yellowstone..that much..But, I feel that after all the bloodshed and wacked out killings and hiding to save land...that the last episode will be that Yellowstone will belong to those who owned it long before and all of that fighting would have been for nothing. They were just folks running a ranch. The land is what matters not what you put on it and they lost in in trying to save it. I just hope the they don't make it into a casino. But, the Duttons will walk off that ranch. What a waste they made.
The end seems shoehorned. Beth didn't know that if they sold the ranch for $1 the tax burden would disappear (it wouldn't, by the way)? She is supposed to be brilliant. It's like the writer(s) have just given up and ready for it to be over so they can concentrate on LandMan.
For Tate to be gen7, as has been indicated repeatedly throughout Yellowstone in various ways, the lineage has to go thru John and Jack, not Spencer. Also, the speculation here of a possible generation between Jack and Dabney Coleman doesn't fit with that, or work timewise.
i watched Costner's Horizon. IF that was the true reason for all this off screen drama, well let me tell you (in my opinion) it wasn't worth it. I don't begrudge Costner's passion for wanting to do it, I just think the final product he made wasn't that good. I hope the final episode is a little longer in run time. let's see what happens.
Seven generations of native time is about 140-150 yrs, may be the only way the land stays as is.
The spinoffs were great!
Costners John said his father fought in Italy in WWII let’s say he was 18-20 in 1944 he would be conceived in 1923ish the timelines match up
Exactly. Either Jack or Spencer...my money is on Spencer, is Costner's grandpa
I was thinking the same exact thing. Unfortunately I think John jr wife after the miscarriage she can’t have anymore kids. Another theory I was thinking of is Spencer starts his own ranch and Matthew McConaughey future character is a descendent of Spencer and comes to save or run the Yellowstone just like Harrison’s Ford character after John and his wife died
@@Rockwall69 Yeah, the John Dutton name isn't automatically given only from father to son. The first John Dutton named his son Jack. Jack can be a non formal name for John but it doesn't appear to be so here.
I mean I don't think it's that big of a mystery. The ranch obviously goes to tate if they can manage to save it, Kasey and Rainwater already have a deal/bond there, and I think Beth would rather see the ranch go to rainwater anyway, it'd keep it in both of their families since Tate is a descendent of both. And even if tate is the 6th generation, if HE gets down the road and meets someone (maybe even a girl in the res?) that kinda takes care of that, their kid would be the 7th generation and it would go back to the tribe. After all, none of the remaining duttons really want the ranch and the shit that comes with it. Beth wants out, Jaimie is probably going to either die or go to jail or something, and that leaves Kasey. It's all kinda obvious lol.
I hate the fact that jamie and beth dont want the ranch
Everyone is guessing it’ll go back to the reservation. Maybe that’s to obvious. What if it’s sold to Travis for a $1.00…..Beth and Rip “run” the ranch. Beth has been intrigued how the 6666 ranch stays profitable -she uses this knowledge to make Yellowstone profitable. Her and Rip eventually take it back. Then we get the series of Beth and Rip 🙏
Great blood oath clip.
Gill Birmingham says it had No effect on the Ending
8 hours ago had a Show that might have some to say about It
James Dutton is the 2nd Great-grandfather of John Dutton III (Costner). Just count on your fingers: John Dutton II (Dabny Coleman- father), Jack Dutton (grandfather), John Dutton I or Spencer Dutton (great-grandfather) James Dutton 2nd great-grandfather).
Tate is the 6th Generation and the Crow get the land back WITH the 7th. Not AFTER the 7th. "In 7 generations my people will rise up and take it back." Spotted Eagle say "IN" not "AFTER".
Nope, Coster is John IV Tate is the 7th Generation: James, John I, John II, John III, John IV (Kostner), Kayce, Tate
@@janetflach4462 Google it, Costner played John Dutton III.
@@janetflach4462 Costner played John Dutton III. Google it.
@@janetflach4462 Coster played John Dutton III. Google it.
The guy said in 7 gen my ppl will raise up that means you have count 7 gen from his ppl not the duttons family but natives family
The 7th generation theory only works if john Dutton the third is the great grand son of john Dutton , but we don't know that for certain . For all we know Spencer will name his son after his older bother who looked out for him after their mother died till Jacob and Cara arrived and if that's the case its not seven generations. with the Dutton family tree incomplete we don't know.
How can you have 2 "John Dutton Sr's"? Where is John Dutton Jr.? There is John Dutton I, John Dutton II, and John Dutton III. John Dutton II is SPENCERS son, named after his brother. Kacey's and Monica's baby was named John Dutton IV. You don't have to have a direct father/son line. Tate is the 6th Generation and the Crow get the land back WITH the 7th. Not AFTER the 7th. "In 7 generations my people will rise up and take it back." Spotted Eagle say "IN" not "AFTER".
First we must look at the prophecy in seven generation , when saying this to some one you don't normally count the person who you said it to as the first generation ( you don't count 0 when measuring) this would make Tate 5th gen if he is Spencer's son ( this has not been confirmed) if he is Jacks son it would make him the 6th gen. Now lets look at Tate he is 50 percent crow and raised in their ways him taking over the ranch could in its own complete the prophecy . Their are to many unknowns to speculate at is my point
So the ENTIRE point of the show was for them to keep the land and they don't. Got it. What a shit way to end what used to be an amazing show.
Could it be the 7 generations of spotted eagle lineage?
I think we just saw Kacey's going to "sale" it to them
I'm disappointed with yellowstone
Spencer & Jack where brothers in 1923 - not 2 separate generations
Spencer and John the 1st (John I) were brothers in 1883. John was the little brother of Elsa on the wagon train. Tim McGraw and Faith had Spencer once they settled on Yellowstone. Then John and his wife Emma had Jack. Then Jack had John the 2nd and John the 2nd then had John the 3rd (Kevin Costner)
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I believe KCs son will get it . Then the Native Americans have it as well as the Duttons.
Its Spencers son who he names after his late brother John JR
Why are they facing the death tax. When its in a trust. How come they didnt face the death tax before when like John SR died and past it to Kevin Costners character john dutton. Wouldnt they had gone bankrupt then from the same taxes their facing now.
Maybe that's why John (Kevin Costner) was barely breaking even?
Lloyd gets it then gifts it to rip, I hope
lol, the rise up with the people is for the pipeline not to take over the ranch!
Feels like they’re connected
Spotted eagle and rainwater aren't related, I think.. the girl from 1923 is rainwater's family, right? Lol
I thought that too. Season 2 of 1923 will most likely fill stuff in. Let’s hope for the 1944 show too.
To the creator or presenter spotted eagle says WITHIN 7 GENERATIONS. not in 7 generations……thank me later in the comment’s section
Been saying this since that episode of 1883 aired.
I love Chief Rainwater
It needs to be given to Tate. He is 7 gen and also half native american. So are kinda giving it back to tge Natives. Then they can do a spin off with Tate about 10 years from now.
Tate will run ranch and allow natives there because he walks both worlds
House will go down because trump eliminate lots of tax but will loose values on market exept for the ones are on the beach and cities
John the 2 nd was 90
It'll deeded over to the tribe or inherited by Tate.
Tate is indian, i'm guessing he's the one getting the land.
I'm so disappointed
Aboriginal land claim
Ha ha James McGraw.
I think they sell it to Tate
Tate is already the beneficiary of the Yellowstone. John willed it to Tate. But bc Tate isn't old enough Kasey will make the decision of what Tate wants to do bc Tate doesn't want the land. It will be given to the reservation and as Rainwater told Beth kept pristine like her father,John wanted it to be kept.
Why is there a "shop" button overlaying your video?
Do fans of Yellowstone love to "shop" or something... or you just a sellout?
Tell you what, I won’t be buying part 2 of season 5..So far they have been depressing, Kayce acted like an idiot putting a gun to that little girls head, killing off Colby, I’ll be reading online how it all ends…good job Sheridan…not.
Sunday episode was advertised as devastating but I found most times it to be rather crude!
Most of all it was unnecessary for the poker game! Ten minutes for Kayce to give Beth the
path to save the Ranch!