Wouldn’t disagree but…. The fever are still salary heavy on a few players they may or can not dump due to contracts. They would need to dump Smith, Wheeler, KLS, and the Aussie to free up the cap to have Satou on 5th and strengthen the bench as a full power second bench. But they can’t get off KLS and I think they are going to offer wheeler a low bet to keep her energy even though there is no reason to keep her.
@@kevinw1822 They need to dump Smith irrespective, but can they not still trade Wheeler and KLS to offload their contract value on the salary cap? At this stage I would trade Smith, Wheeler and KLS for Satou Sabally and their 2nd round draft pick. At least it will free up cap space for free agency signings.
@@Locutus.Borg. nobody will take KLS almost max contract. They are stuck with her since DUNN gave her a massive raise before she had a baby. Wheeler is on a massive contract that expires. So do they save face and pay her as a cheerleader??
She looks strong. Literally. i hope Fever's office is as smart as we are expecting them to be. There's got to be good players that want to be on a team with the 'media fire'.
Fever protected Grace Berger an Former Indiana University player how do you think Fever situation if GB will not be protected ? GB a PG is reliever for CC
@@griffinholdem9196 The Wings can core her then trade her which means they don't lose her for nothing. That being said if they do core her and aren't able to trade her then they may not be able to core Arike next year depending on the core terms.
We can’t afford to let Wheeler come back. Her salary is way out of line with her ability. If we could trade Wallace as a sweetener in a deal I’d be all in on that, but I don’t think she has much value to any other team.
That's what I've been saying. Mitchell doesn't want to stay with the Fever and even if they force her this year she's gonna pull this mess next year. Get a player that will not b asking to leave. Olsen is not bad and with Clark she would elevate and people would see losing Mitchell really wasn't the end of the world.
This also may sound like a hot take, but I would also take Sivka over Citron if both were available at #8 hypothetically. She is a higher upside and more versatile prospect who even if you don’t want to wait for her to come from Europe, she would bring back more in a trade package. You should only take Citron if you are certain you are a piece or two from contender status. And I say this as a fan of Sonia also. According to most of the Big Board lists and scouts I’ve seen talk about this, Sivka is a top 4-6 player in this draft overall from best player available perspective.
Salaun is not a power forward, or at least it’s her secondary position. She is a prototype WNBA Small forward. She would either be replacing Lexie Hull in the starting lineup or backing her up. Fever would still need a PF in my opinion even if they sign Salaun..
What about this for the Fever for 2025? 1. Caitlin 2. Kelsey 3. Aliyah 4. Natasha Howard 5. Lexie 6. Janelle Salaum 7. Rebecca Allen 8. Grace Berger 9. Katie-Lou 10. Cecilia Zandalasini 11. Oiliva Nelson-Ododa 12. Aziaha James in the Draft?
She isn't even good. Mick is hyping up a random name cause he does this shit too often. She shoots 46% compared to actual WNBA players shooting like 60% nearly. Fever are better off signing Emma Cannon and just going with an actual WNBA player at that point than someone not good enough. At least they know they can get a player that can average 22 ppg in the same league, lol.
@@Vadimony Mick just has a deep bias in favor of European players. Some of them are undervalued but he consistently overestimates their potential in the WNBA.
@@analogee6858 I get the ideas: we didn't know how good international players were in the NBA until literally they took over the league. But this isn't the same thing: women aren't playing overseas the same as the American crop--which seems to still dominate the world. The best players in the WNBA are literally all Americans, so it isn't even a fair comparison to have. We know American system sports are crazy competitive from high school to the college; likewise, we can assume that the average college player put in more effort and energy than the average Euro player. Pro athletes are actually a big deal in the US but I can't say that BASKETBALL is sought after by women in the other countries. They all flock to the Colleges as soon as they can because the competition is higher and development is stronger. So, unfortunately, there aren't that many good prospects out there. You've got the 6'6 Molonga and you've got the 7'3 China girl that are literally the two "freaks of nature" and they're basically just super tall. The skilled players are in college, so it is unlikely you'll find the super caliber players in the international league. Fever shouldn't waste time on "prospects" that have no WNBA experience unless the potential payoff is impressive or something. Win-now mode is basically get the best talent you can grab now, not the Spurs development program.
I think the Fever need to go after all possibilities for Team building and jettison dead weight like NaLyssa, etc. I’m not convinced that we cannot win without Kelsey Mitchell. Yes she’s a volume scorer but you can replace her points with one or two players that also D up and pass the ball. If Kelsey can’t realize the gold mine situation for both $$ and championship-wise that she is currently in then so be it. Assemble a team around your superstar with people of the same mindset.
It’s a gamble I hope a top contender would take. If the Lynx could get her and say not mess with the starters, although they may be aging or not. But she comes in as a role player and off the bench until she could land a starting spot. Hell she could be the piece for the Lynx to not look back and take several championships.
Funny how people keep talking about all these #1 top draft prospects, and thinking that the Fever will have a chance to draft them. Fever picks are 8th, and 33rd. And the next draft class is about 4 players, then everyone else. This is all without saying the obvious, about the Fever's salary cap being completely fucked by the previous administration. Yes, you gotta believe that the Fever have a big plan ready to go, after giving up Temi. That's the reality, because there's no world where you just let a big like Temi go, without one hell of a backup plan. But either way, there sure are a lot of pipe dreams and fantasies flying around here
Fever has nine players under contract for next season and still have $650K to work with for three free agents. Two Supermax contracts (Kelsey and Satou??) would eat up half a million leaving $150K which would buy another pretty decent player. Katie Lou is being overpaid, but the Fever are in good shape with cap space for next season.
Temi has to many injuries and can’t stay on the team playing time. Temi complained about a head injury during the Sun playoffs. I think her injuries played a big role deciding not to save her. Same thing with Wheeler, her playing time is not worth the money. She is too to high paid for next season. Sides brought her with her to the Fever with a big contract.
What about this lineup for the Fever in 2025 I don’t think they get Satou but they can get a team that can run run and excite the crowds!! What do y’all think about this team roster? 1. Caitlin 2. Kelsey 3. Aliyah 4. Natasha Howard 5. Rebecca Allen 6. Lexie 7. Janelle Salaum 8. Cecilia Zandalasini 9. Grace Berger 10. Oiliva Nelson-Ododa 11. Sonia Citron 12. Katie - Lou I hope she finds her shoot back and gets in better shape while playing in Unrivaled because they are stuck with her because of her salary but she was a good player before her time out for her baby.
Is Salaün going to be in the draft? I don't know. Can someone fill me in. Because if she is in the draft and she is as good as Mick says, how would the Fever get her picking 7th? I believe they pick 7th. Now if she is a free agent, then they have a chance.
@@bkbarth989 Lexi coming off of the bench would not be a bad thing. Championship teams need quality depth, particularly if you plan to run teams out of the gym.
They're 5-3 so far--which is like tied for third with another team in the standings at their "conference" this year. She dropped 4 points against the unbeaten number 1 team going 2-11 in like a 30+ point blowout. The best team has Natasha Howard and two borderline WNBA bench players on their roster. I get you want to hype up people for your videos, but can we stop the bull already? She's 6-2 and that's not that much of an advantage in the WNBA at all. She can't play the 4/5 at her position, so she's better off trying to be the Lexie Hull of the team; however, unlike her, Lexie Hull was drafted and actually is capable of getting on a WNBA team. Much ado about nothing. She's not a WNBA player--which is why she wasn't drafted. At best, you can hope she's at least better than Saxton... At worst, she's a clueless novice that doesn't know the systems of organized WNBA teams at all. For example, Emma Cannon is literally NUMBER 1 in that same league in PPG, with Howard being 2nd. Why on earth would anybody think this is worth putting any interest in her when she's basically no better than two WNBA players on a borderline average or worse team? You can get all the numbers you want on a no-direction team, but when you're planning to build a team to win, then you actually need quality players with capable production. If they need that type of player, then they can just send a bulky contract to Howard for 1 year and then enjoy a better player than the one you're proposing anyway. They aren't there to build "long term" with her anyway, and just need some viable solutions until they can progress past the new CBA and construct a roster for the future. She's not that good, obviously, given that she's either NOT carrying the whole team to wins or basically not leading in any categories. Simply look at her stats: She's shooting 46% from the floor. Barely gets to the line either. She's averaging under 6 rebounds, 2 steals, 0 blocks, and 2 turnovers, 2 assists. Her turnovers are basically more than her assists. She's not shooting well at all, given that WNBA players of the 4/3/5 positions are literally shooting 60% from the floor over there. At best, she's a solid 10th player off the bench. She's not the one you think she is. Literally is bad to compare her to the comp she has to go against since none of them are WNBA players anyway. When you compare her "stats" in a matrix with other WNBA players and their production, then the woman looks more like Angel Reese rookie numbers (inflated and pointless for no real benefit) at their best.
Definitely don’t need a change at center. They have the most cerebral center in the W; hopefully she just comes to camp in shape (Unrivaled should help with this) and they will hit the ground running.
You just got done saying Nalyssa Smith is staying in Indiana if she stays she starting at the 4, should would be extremely toxic off the bench. That means Indiana has their starting 5 and just need some stronger backups. Which they may already have cause we have no clue cause Sides rarely played them. With Amber Cox and all her talk about we have big plans this off season and fans will need to wait and see talk, if they roll out the same starting 5 and just sign a couple back ups fans will be disappointed. Same goes for signing a hybrid tween player from Europe nobody in the US has heard of before. They need to sign/trade for a big time player like Satou, Plum, Stewie, Gabby Williams or Nneka, even if you don’t think they can get them those are the level of players they need to be targeting, if they are going to make the FA splash they’ve been hyping. Other wise shut up run it back and be smart with your draft picks. Then realize you’re going to lose Mitchell in 26 cause will need to core AB, plus another 2 key players to expansion draft as well. The Fever need to go for it all this season without hurting their future too much by not giving up a lot of draft capital.
Why not dream of Satou Sabally, Janelle Salaün and Sonia Citron all coming to the Fever in 2025. I have a dream! 😉🤞
I can dig it
Wouldn’t disagree but…. The fever are still salary heavy on a few players they may or can not dump due to contracts.
They would need to dump Smith, Wheeler, KLS, and the Aussie to free up the cap to have Satou on 5th and strengthen the bench as a full power second bench.
But they can’t get off KLS and I think they are going to offer wheeler a low bet to keep her energy even though there is no reason to keep her.
@@kevinw1822 They need to dump Smith irrespective, but can they not still trade Wheeler and KLS to offload their contract value on the salary cap? At this stage I would trade Smith, Wheeler and KLS for Satou Sabally and their 2nd round draft pick. At least it will free up cap space for free agency signings.
The only way that is happening is if Mitchell doesn't want to stay and they core and trade her.
@@Locutus.Borg. nobody will take KLS almost max contract. They are stuck with her since DUNN gave her a massive raise before she had a baby. Wheeler is on a massive contract that expires. So do they save face and pay her as a cheerleader??
I think you should make your side of the screen smaller. This way we can actually see the clips you’re trying to show us.
She looks strong. Literally. i hope Fever's office is as smart as we are expecting them to be. There's got to be good players that want to be on a team with the 'media fire'.
Fever protected Grace Berger an Former Indiana University player how do you think Fever situation if GB will not be protected ? GB a PG is reliever for CC
The Fever are working on a three way trade with Dallas and Connecticut for Satou. Shhhh.
why trade anything though? Sabally is an unrestricted free agent I thought. She can sign with whoever she wants.
@@griffinholdem9196 The Wings can core her then trade her which means they don't lose her for nothing. That being said if they do core her and aren't able to trade her then they may not be able to core Arike next year depending on the core terms.
If they can corner Satou Sabally, I would get Lucy Olsen and develop her talent in place of Wheeler or Wallace !
We can’t afford to let Wheeler come back. Her salary is way out of line with her ability. If we could trade Wallace as a sweetener in a deal I’d be all in on that, but I don’t think she has much value to any other team.
That's what I've been saying. Mitchell doesn't want to stay with the Fever and even if they force her this year she's gonna pull this mess next year. Get a player that will not b asking to leave. Olsen is not bad and with Clark she would elevate and people would see losing Mitchell really wasn't the end of the world.
Satou will get cored with Dallas especially with Paige coming. Indy isn’t getting her, imo
@@julieleber6131 Paige may not even be #1 which I hope so she can get drafted by the spark
This also may sound like a hot take, but I would also take Sivka over Citron if both were available at #8 hypothetically. She is a higher upside and more versatile prospect who even if you don’t want to wait for her to come from Europe, she would bring back more in a trade package. You should only take Citron if you are certain you are a piece or two from contender status. And I say this as a fan of Sonia also.
According to most of the Big Board lists and scouts I’ve seen talk about this, Sivka is a top 4-6 player in this draft overall from best player available perspective.
With Lin Dunn as the defacto GM who wouldn't play Grace Berger, not sure we can make any reasonable predictions selecting players.
Berger is not good. They only drafted her because she played at IU. Let’s see if she proves me wrong - I’d love for her to.
@@jumpshooter4095 She's ripping it up in Turkey, have a look!
Salaun is not a power forward, or at least it’s her secondary position. She is a prototype WNBA Small forward. She would either be replacing Lexie Hull in the starting lineup or backing her up. Fever would still need a PF in my opinion even if they sign Salaun..
What about this for the Fever for 2025? 1. Caitlin 2. Kelsey 3. Aliyah 4. Natasha Howard 5. Lexie 6. Janelle Salaum 7. Rebecca Allen 8. Grace Berger 9. Katie-Lou 10. Cecilia Zandalasini 11. Oiliva Nelson-Ododa 12. Aziaha James in the Draft?
@@AlanFort-z6u I don’t see Natasha Howard going to the Fever.
She isn't even good. Mick is hyping up a random name cause he does this shit too often.
She shoots 46% compared to actual WNBA players shooting like 60% nearly.
Fever are better off signing Emma Cannon and just going with an actual WNBA player at that point than someone not good enough. At least they know they can get a player that can average 22 ppg in the same league, lol.
@@Vadimony Mick just has a deep bias in favor of European players. Some of them are undervalued but he consistently overestimates their potential in the WNBA.
@@analogee6858 I get the ideas: we didn't know how good international players were in the NBA until literally they took over the league. But this isn't the same thing: women aren't playing overseas the same as the American crop--which seems to still dominate the world. The best players in the WNBA are literally all Americans, so it isn't even a fair comparison to have.
We know American system sports are crazy competitive from high school to the college; likewise, we can assume that the average college player put in more effort and energy than the average Euro player. Pro athletes are actually a big deal in the US but I can't say that BASKETBALL is sought after by women in the other countries. They all flock to the Colleges as soon as they can because the competition is higher and development is stronger.
So, unfortunately, there aren't that many good prospects out there. You've got the 6'6 Molonga and you've got the 7'3 China girl that are literally the two "freaks of nature" and they're basically just super tall. The skilled players are in college, so it is unlikely you'll find the super caliber players in the international league.
Fever shouldn't waste time on "prospects" that have no WNBA experience unless the potential payoff is impressive or something. Win-now mode is basically get the best talent you can grab now, not the Spurs development program.
I think the Fever need to go after all possibilities for Team building and jettison dead weight like NaLyssa, etc. I’m not convinced that we cannot win without Kelsey Mitchell. Yes she’s a volume scorer but you can replace her points with one or two players that also D up and pass the ball. If Kelsey can’t realize the gold mine situation for both $$ and championship-wise that she is currently in then so be it. Assemble a team around your superstar with people of the same mindset.
It’s a gamble I hope a top contender would take. If the Lynx could get her and say not mess with the starters, although they may be aging or not. But she comes in as a role player and off the bench until she could land a starting spot. Hell she could be the piece for the Lynx to not look back and take several championships.
Funny how people keep talking about all these #1 top draft prospects, and thinking that the Fever will have a chance to draft them. Fever picks are 8th, and 33rd. And the next draft class is about 4 players, then everyone else. This is all without saying the obvious, about the Fever's salary cap being completely fucked by the previous administration. Yes, you gotta believe that the Fever have a big plan ready to go, after giving up Temi. That's the reality, because there's no world where you just let a big like Temi go, without one hell of a backup plan. But either way, there sure are a lot of pipe dreams and fantasies flying around here
Fever has nine players under contract for next season and still have $650K to work with for three free agents. Two Supermax contracts (Kelsey and Satou??) would eat up half a million leaving $150K which would buy another pretty decent player. Katie Lou is being overpaid, but the Fever are in good shape with cap space for next season.
@@MargueriteFahey Ah, good to know. I thought it was much tighter for some reason
@@MargueriteFaheythis is Katie's LAST year with the Fever. Thank God!!
She toughhhhh one of the best pure scorers in basketball
Those number are better than KiKi and she's projected to go 2nd... I could see it.. Remember tho, Valkyries has a good Euro scout so she might go 5th!
I just hope they don’t screw the team up any more than they already have by not protecting Temi.
Fever would have lost Temi anyway.
Temi has to many injuries and can’t stay on the team playing time. Temi complained about a head injury during the Sun playoffs. I think her injuries played a big role deciding not to save her. Same thing with Wheeler, her playing time is not worth the money. She is too to high paid for next season. Sides brought her with her to the Fever with a big contract.
Let’s GO!
Howard and Plum
How's her defense?
Mick said she's s good defender.
What about this lineup for the Fever in 2025 I don’t think they get Satou but they can get a team that can run run and excite the crowds!! What do y’all think about this team roster? 1. Caitlin 2. Kelsey 3. Aliyah 4. Natasha Howard 5. Rebecca Allen 6. Lexie 7. Janelle Salaum 8. Cecilia Zandalasini 9. Grace Berger 10. Oiliva Nelson-Ododa 11. Sonia Citron 12. Katie - Lou I hope she finds her shoot back and gets in better shape while playing in Unrivaled because they are stuck with her because of her salary but she was a good player before her time out for her baby.
Is Salaün going to be in the draft? I don't know. Can someone fill me in. Because if she is in the draft and she is as good as Mick says, how would the Fever get her picking 7th? I believe they pick 7th. Now if she is a free agent, then they have a chance.
No, She is a free agent. If she were not European this would be her draft year . But Europeans can be drafted at 19, so that ship has sailed.
I think Fever has the 8th pick.
If you're saying she's #2 in the draft then how do you think the Fever are going to get her? Besides I like Lexi right where she is.
She is a free agent. He is saying she is #2 because if she weren't European, this would be her draft.
Exactly, Lexi shot over 60% from the 3 point line in games she started.
@@bkbarth989 Lexi coming off of the bench would not be a bad thing. Championship teams need quality depth, particularly if you plan to run teams out of the gym.
why not add Malonga?
They would have to trade up, because Malonga will not be available at 8.
@@PaulRounds-l7c I agree
Dominique can dunk
Janelle Salaün
interesting
They're 5-3 so far--which is like tied for third with another team in the standings at their "conference" this year.
She dropped 4 points against the unbeaten number 1 team going 2-11 in like a 30+ point blowout.
The best team has Natasha Howard and two borderline WNBA bench players on their roster.
I get you want to hype up people for your videos, but can we stop the bull already? She's 6-2 and that's not that much of an advantage in the WNBA at all. She can't play the 4/5 at her position, so she's better off trying to be the Lexie Hull of the team; however, unlike her, Lexie Hull was drafted and actually is capable of getting on a WNBA team.
Much ado about nothing. She's not a WNBA player--which is why she wasn't drafted. At best, you can hope she's at least better than Saxton... At worst, she's a clueless novice that doesn't know the systems of organized WNBA teams at all. For example, Emma Cannon is literally NUMBER 1 in that same league in PPG, with Howard being 2nd. Why on earth would anybody think this is worth putting any interest in her when she's basically no better than two WNBA players on a borderline average or worse team? You can get all the numbers you want on a no-direction team, but when you're planning to build a team to win, then you actually need quality players with capable production.
If they need that type of player, then they can just send a bulky contract to Howard for 1 year and then enjoy a better player than the one you're proposing anyway. They aren't there to build "long term" with her anyway, and just need some viable solutions until they can progress past the new CBA and construct a roster for the future.
She's not that good, obviously, given that she's either NOT carrying the whole team to wins or basically not leading in any categories.
Simply look at her stats:
She's shooting 46% from the floor. Barely gets to the line either.
She's averaging under 6 rebounds, 2 steals, 0 blocks, and 2 turnovers, 2 assists.
Her turnovers are basically more than her assists. She's not shooting well at all, given that WNBA players of the 4/3/5 positions are literally shooting 60% from the floor over there.
At best, she's a solid 10th player off the bench. She's not the one you think she is. Literally is bad to compare her to the comp she has to go against since none of them are WNBA players anyway. When you compare her "stats" in a matrix with other WNBA players and their production, then the woman looks more like Angel Reese rookie numbers (inflated and pointless for no real benefit) at their best.
what would it take to get the first pic in the draft this year for the fever ... 3 1st round picks 25,26,27 and maybe a player?
Fever needs big center
They have one. (and most importantly, they have a smart one who can run the floor.)
They don't need big lumbering centers that can't run
The days of big centers are gone.
Definitely don’t need a change at center. They have the most cerebral center in the W; hopefully she just comes to camp in shape (Unrivaled should help with this) and they will hit the ground running.
Sign her and then trade Caitlin Clark away for other assets. 😂 j/k
"Trade CC" worst mistake in sports history lol.
Sounds like you were the one that traded away Babe Ruth
@@chrisstrawn3396we can take care of her in Phoenix.
Imagine the trade value 🙂
I swear you always speak in hyperbole.
This vlogger just makes up crap 💩. He’s just running out of content.
bad coke 👃?
Satou going to the Liberty
Until that actually happens, she is coming to the Fever! 😉🤞
Sabally or bust,
You just got done saying Nalyssa Smith is staying in Indiana if she stays she starting at the 4, should would be extremely toxic off the bench. That means Indiana has their starting 5 and just need some stronger backups. Which they may already have cause we have no clue cause Sides rarely played them. With Amber Cox and all her talk about we have big plans this off season and fans will need to wait and see talk, if they roll out the same starting 5 and just sign a couple back ups fans will be disappointed. Same goes for signing a hybrid tween player from Europe nobody in the US has heard of before.
They need to sign/trade for a big time player like Satou, Plum, Stewie, Gabby Williams or Nneka, even if you don’t think they can get them those are the level of players they need to be targeting, if they are going to make the FA splash they’ve been hyping. Other wise shut up run it back and be smart with your draft picks. Then realize you’re going to lose Mitchell in 26 cause will need to core AB, plus another 2 key players to expansion draft as well. The Fever need to go for it all this season without hurting their future too much by not giving up a lot of draft capital.